Field Reports

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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 months ago

@Sentient

Just looked at the comments and this one stood out:

Shannon Mitchell
2 years ago
Me too,it was once and a life time passion when I was in my early twenties with an older man.If only to have that again. I did anything and everything to feel that euphoria and still long for it now.

NNN1
NNN1
2 months ago

Chat report with the girl I banged on Sunday According to her period tracing app, her menstruation is scheduled Monday to Wednesday. On Sunday we scheduled to meet again on Friday. Gonna reiterate the chat history from then on: Sunday: Her (20:07): So how was your remaining day? Have you read this paper? //Told her I should read that paper for university. Me 21:43: Hi, the paper sounds quite interesting – didn’t finish reading it ’cause I had to go downtwn. Me 21:43: Send a picture tomorrow morning, I wanna know wether that dark bags under your eyes are still… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago

Palma Yet no one wants to believe it 😉 How is lil Palma coming along? NNN1 Selfish girl – perfect! It was a fitness test and you knuckles her under by doing nothing. There’s the lesson. Now doing nothing may not be optimal all the time, but it does remove over game faults. Here – now that she has complied Mystery would say offer IOA, reward her. Couple of ways to go – 1.Ignore selfie but reach out and make a date with her. Expect shit test on selfish, just be like “yeah. I’ll take one of you here and… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
2 months ago

@Sentient, Thanks!

I just texted her (remember her “We can meet up on Friday, but I’ll still menstruate there”):
You won’t escape so easy, little girl.
Friday afternoon / evening is fixed.

And she agreed on that, so I guess it’ll work well.

Gonna go for a short bike tour now and think about what else I could’ve gone with / go with in the future as a response.

Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago

NNN1 Ha. You are entering a phase, quickly, where overgamimg can become an issue. Probably have to just go through it. However – watching what they do vs what they say, should guide you. No need to rip defeat from the jaws of victory. Start to think that YOU are enough and when that mindset is firm, you will begin to act with fluidity and ease and avoid thinking too much about game. Remember – backward plan from sex, sex location. Everything else is then just a>b>c>d process steps. Here, objective was overcome fitness test, steal the frame, make her… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago
Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago

lazer wolf eyes

How was that opener? “every time I see you you’re buying chickens”…

Openers don’t matter

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 months ago

@Sentient

How is lil Palma coming along?

He’s kicking a lot. T-37 days and counting…

Time flies..

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 months ago

@NNN1 She is on the back foot now, and you could over game. AND ignoring shit tests, which is actually what being a bit aloof (amused mastery) unwittingly achieves isn’t a bad default setting. Assuming you’re owning her in bed (and at N=2 – with all respect, you won’t be yet) then apart from increasingly infrequent shit tests (fitness tests) the only thing you need to look out for is the guard dog spinning up… In terms of owning her in bed, don’t worry about breaking her. In conventional sex, they can take it as hard (if not harder) than… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
2 months ago

Barn report: This Thursday I hit the party barn again. This time again with a girl from the social circle of the girl I’m banging now. Let’s call her K fur this text. And her Homie, the gay dude from last Thursday. We went in there around nine (I guess) and in the queue I opened the first set, just to get a bit more social (asked them over their shoulder wether they’d know this theater piece I just told my new friends here about). Last time I realized (and of course read it in the MM as well) that… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago

NnN1 Well that’s progress. Not a pull though, but progress. But no cofveve for you. You still aren’t being “ruthless”, and that is interfering with your success, and giving you false positives, which is going to retard your development. Not saying you aren’t having fun etc. Just that if you want to “pull” and pull consistently, where “pull” means pebis in vagina, you’re going to have to stop fucking around and get ruthless… Backward plan from sex location, logistics, actions moving things toward the result you want. Not fluffing around, having a lark, “better luck next time” and “well I… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 months ago

@Sentient I tried to poast this to Carlos but it’s in Moderation and prob. Won’t make it past the delete key.. Carlos – Sentient mentioned you checked in so I thought I’d update you and Old Friend.. Pleased to report that J Dubya is kicking and due to arrive soon. Being a dad again is an experience.. and the difference in the mothers underlines the adage that the most important decision in your life is who you choose to be the mother of your children. Your life will fork in one of only two very different directions depending on that… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 months ago

@NNN1 Barn report: I’m actually picking up more from @Sentients analysis than your report, there are higher level things to consider. Your most substantial risk is that you’re social and probably “good with women” like I was. This risks is that you end up like @youngshagger, who poasted here for a bit until he decided “he’s learnt game and didn’t need it” His situation is that he is apex alpha in life – which means he’s academically at the top, and physically at the top. So he will be phenomenally successful financially, and he is also phenomenally successful in his… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
2 months ago

@Palma Did you get any IOI’s? Was either an actual target? Open or closed questions? No IOIs, I just opened for the sake of opening. Now I did pack it in the conversation with the gay dude and the girl in a way that’s fun. None of them was actual target, kinda closed question. Later in the set with the short HB 6 I told the others “we’re gonna head to the bar to return my cup.”. Fair enough in the first place I actually wanted the HB 7 and engaged the HB 6 at first just to win her… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 months ago

@NNN1

^^ good. Well done

ApocJason
ApocJason
2 months ago

For the last months I’ve done segeral questionable things: Started to visit scorts again even though it fucks up my finances. Got back to my porn and fap addicion (up to 4 times x day), therefore my normal sex drive decreased significantly. Got into this zone in which one wonders if the pua stuff and intersexual dynamics aren’t as complicated as they are shown in the manosphere (while others just get it why should I go out of my schefule and approach), thinking that just being myself and improving bit by bit things will come i.e: success with girls. After… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
2 months ago

one wonders if the pua stuff and intersexual dynamics aren’t as complicated as they are shown in the manosphere (while others just get it why should I go out of my schefule and approach) Intersexual dynamics are actually pretty simple once you got the gist. Truth is simple: 80 % of men are just deemed unattractive and might eventually get a girlfriend when she really needs ressources. Of the remaining 20% only 5% are deemed really attractive and 1% might actually get hit on by women. The 5% (so 1 in 20) just need to enable women to hit on… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 months ago

@NNN1 Excellent report, and excellent ownership. The only thing I think you should re think is “regrets”:- but more specifically regrets in life.: And I regret this pretty hard – for them girls were dtf, you could really tell that. Yeah well,.. so what.. there will always be more girls… half the planet is full of them. I have done some really stupid things over the years. The most stupid was freebasing crack cocaine. By the guy that never did drugs, and it could have got really out of hand. But I don’t regret it. That doesn’t mean that I… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
2 months ago

nothing is a mistake if you’ve learned from it Yep, I asked google for venues in my university city (didn’t do it that way yet), found some club-like venues with free entrance. Gonna go there on the weekend to check it out (and see about the possibilieites to open and pull). I figured I need to go out more and to venues to meet new people, I won’t open and approach that way when out with my Homie group (especially as that’s a mixed group with dudes petrified of opening a set). So I’ll check wether a fellow student (guess… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 months ago

@NNN1

so my gut was sure he is her boyfriend

Open question “how do you (all) know each other?”

Deals with that..

NNN1
NNN1
2 months ago

Open question “how do you (all) know each other?” Deals with that.. I had done that, they know each other from the same lecture. They didn’t talk about a Relationshit, it was my gut feeling of how the guy behaved (mate guarding). Should’ve ignored that probably… Compliance report: Went to a salsa lesson / party yesterday evening. Couldn’t stay past half past ten, got an important presentation today (as part of an exam) Learned some salsa moves and met some new women, one HB 8 from Syria. Chatted with her for quite a while, but didn’t see IOIs – so… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago

NNN1

Open question “how do you (all) know each other?”

Deals with that..

I had done that, they know each other from the same lecture. They didn’t talk about a Relationshit, it was my gut feeling of how the guy behaved (mate guarding). Should’ve ignored that probably…

Good logistics up front…

Next time, you could do something more fun – “So you boyfriend girlfriend?” etc.

Put him on the spot. A lot of the time the guy will be quiet but the girl will say “we’re friends”…

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 months ago

^^

You look like such a happy couple when’s the wedding?

NNN1
NNN1
2 months ago

OK so here’s the game plan: Entry to the party. I plan eight o´clock, maybe a Homie’s gonna join me but I’m using him only as a pivot. The gay dude and the girl from last week implied they wouldn’t attend the party today but I texted them so we’ll see. Actually they’re not necessary, just for the first fifteen to thirty minutes – which is to have fun. Open a set in the queue before the entrance just to get into the mood of opening – when there’s no queue take the first set I see when I enter… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
2 months ago

Use the Homie as a pivotal opener – tell them I said he looks so much like one studying xyz but he neglects it. What do you think he’s studying – and then guess what they do. That is: whirl them around. Actually follow up with “why do you think he’s studying that?” I’m most uncertain kinda about that “let’s go check out that cider”, but I guess I should just assume attraction when she’s still there after that bunch of storytelling. Then there’s the other part: Is that really alpha enough (in the stories)? I could also include stories… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 months ago

@NNN1

Reference the girl that was “with” another guy

https://therationalmale.com/2017/05/31/the-utility-of-beta-men-part-i/

Do a Goldmund… look at the comments by the way, it got really heated..lol.

IAS
IAS
2 months ago

LR N=18. Target B. Still hot but epiphany or post-epiphany phase. Some white hairs already, natural redhead, something which I’ve been wanting to add to my “collection”. She was passing by for about 1 week, and very obviously flirting with me for several days. I was pacing it until I got her right where I wanted her (my place). I finally arrange logistics to get her to my place but some unexpected malfunctions delay us. I get her home but we were short on time to something scheduled and I decided not to be late just to bang her, so… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
2 months ago

Probs on that @IAS! So you’re basically banging through your social circle here? Pretty nice I only have a fail report – like a Drama in 5 acts! … Oh man lol Introduction: I arrange with a fellow student (L) to meet at 8 to go to the party. As we arrive there’s only very few and virtually no girl set. I use the time to chat a bit with my fellow student and meet my Homies as well. My fellow student met some other dude and I merge that set with my Homies. Nothing substantial up to now –… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 months ago

@NNN1 The big question of course is what went wrong? You didn’t get any traction in the sets with the cube. I’m not sure how you’re running it. The last time I ran it was with a 4 set and I was out alone. Each of the girls wanted their turn, and each ended up with their own outcome. How are you actually running it? Looks like you’re hitting it quite hard and you’re bouncing around the venue hitting on sets and getting blown out, and this is visible, women have a radar for it. It would probably be faster… Read more »

Last edited 2 months ago by PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 months ago

By the way, you have to make solid eye contact with her and don’t break away, make sure you’re smiling, smirking, laughing or you’ll come across as a serial killer

NNN1
NNN1
2 months ago

How are you actually running it? When I’m kinda locked in and already telling some stories I say “OK, so we’ll play a little game here – I’ve been taught it by an old friend of mine, and he studies psychotherapy – so there must be something behind it. First you’ll imagine a landscape and then I’ll know all about you, at least when we believe in it” Actually, when I’m looking back my delivery wasn’t confident enough. I think most times I need to sack the “when we believe in it”. And then make it more funny. Building a… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 months ago

@NNN1

psychotherapy

then I’ll know all about you,

I think you’re drilling down too hard with this and their closing down.

Being psychoanalysed on a night out isn’t usually fun…

I go with the scene

Flowers

Sky

Ladder by the box

And ask them what animal they see

There may be a bit more I’ve forgotten

NNN1
NNN1
2 months ago

And ask them what animal they see There may be a bit more I’ve forgotten Landscape, Cube, Ladder, Flower, Horse and Storm was what I did, but I guess letting them imagine what type of animal might be an even better story. So game plan for today: Gonna go to a university party at another university downtown with a male fellow student from my extended social circle. I guess he’d actually be a good wing, but we’ll see. We’re scheduled to meet there at nine o´clock, I guess there’s gonna be a bunch of girls (guessing from the demographics at… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago

Nnn1

Are you a sexual threat? If not, why not?

How did the other guy make out with that girl you spoke with and leave with her?

Why are the girls there?

Are YOU enough, or are you trying to find a value trade?

Where is the sex location an hour away?

Second place is a set of steak knives… 🔪

NNN1
NNN1
2 months ago

Are you a sexual threat? If not, why not? I have a hard time getting why not. I realized my hair style is shit right now and I made an appointment at a decent coiffeur for Tuesday. However, I doubt this really explains it. Maybe I’m not directly sexual enough, but then that’s not backed by my experience from the report of yesterday: Went out to that party, muh fellow texted me an hour earlier he won’t make it (which didn’t surprise me lol, but it didn’t matter anyway as I knew where the party went down). I arrive there… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@NNN1

No time really to analyse much right now but I’d suggest you stay away from online for the time being.

You have plenty of leads that are on demand.

You can and will pull an 8/9 in real life. There are no real physical looks / height / other barriers that can’t be overcome.

However if you stray into online it will damage you at this stage in the game.

You have plenty of leads when you go out, you’re just not closing. That’s the problem. Online won’t cure that.

having a bad day
having a bad day
1 month ago

@NNN1

only one question from me…

when you go out, do you or do you not feel like a walking hardon?…

if not, why not?…

good luck!…

NNN1
NNN1
1 month ago

You have plenty of leads that are on demand. True, I just don’t convert them and the big question is what I do wrong – I’m kinda certain we’ll find out somehow. However if you stray into online it will damage you at this stage in the game. @habd when you go out, do you or do you not feel like a walking hardon?… if not, why not? Looking back – not really or at least not the largest portion of the time. Maybe because I don’t feel like I can pull her. – Which is fatal, as nothing might… Read more »

IAS
IAS
1 month ago

@NNN1

It’s not the hair style LOL.

Don’t be in a rush. You are putting in the work. You already started getting results, and you will get results more consistently.

COVID was an issue but on the other hand if it wasn’t for COVID maybe you wouldn’t have found about this site. Don’t hold onto it as an excuse 🙂 You are doing good work, you will get good results.

Be patient and keep banging DWG. Your confidence will keep increasing and the Uni girls will notice it in subtle hints you don’t even realize you are sending.

having a bad day
having a bad day
1 month ago

@NNN1 So I reallly want to know what I do wrong in the attraction phase or rather how to do it right. walking… hardon… lol… ya know, we’ve been doing this for a while now (trying to give men advice on getting p in v)… and it really does come down to THAT^^^…lol AND your social conditioning IS/WILL be pushing on you to ‘not’… sooo, here’s some actionable advice… the next time you go out (whether for class or social) (and any time after that…lol) look around and spot a cute girl that you would want to bang… don’t approach… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@Sentient your ex will go mad when she finds out about the pregnant RD Well I hadn’t told anyone except a few, but it seems word has spread. I sent my son a Xmas card last week which told him and invited him to meet his new brother. Turns out he’s been working since 2019 which covers when we were meeting once a month and he didn’t tell me. Anyway today I got the court summons for an interim order. She doesn’t know that I don’t owe any money because she co habits and my income tanked for 3 years… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

Palma Oh boy. Yeah when she sees RD and lil Palma, she’s really gonna go nuts. Related to women going nuts… I was chatting a 33 yo 7.5. She was in a mood, really fiesty and angry. She’s all worked up over the “love of her life” – who’s she’s been seeing a year, since her divorce – breaking off with her and avoiding commitment. He’s such an asshole… blah blah. She says she sent him a really hot pic earlier and he didn’t even reply. This all in full venom. She shows me the pic, and 10 others. She’s… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@Sentient Oh boy. Yeah when she sees RD and lil Palma, she’s really gonna go nuts. Well, I’m not planning on them coming face to face. I don’t know what’s to be gained. Though I did email her today to tell her “out of courtesy” that other son has a brother due soon. Though we do live less than two miles apart, I rarely even see her. Somehow I never really get the feeling she is going nuts. And I don’t know why that is because I know she’s miserable and despite the trappings, Range Rover etc.. all of that… Read more »

Last edited 1 month ago by PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

Field report The visit to the ex wife’s house to deliver Xmas present to son no.1 So in the end I decided to doorstep son no.1 and deliver his Xmas present. So I turn up at about 7.30 pm and knock on the door and the ex comes to answer and sees me through the clear glass door. Standard practice, she’s pissed off but answers the door demanding to know what I want. I hold up the envelope and say Xmas present for A. Is he in? She’s like “he’s at university” I say “yeah but he’s living here, university… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
1 month ago

OK, another compliance report: Went out downtown with two friends (one male, one female) to that “student party” at some club. We arrived there at 10:30 pm and there was legitimately nothing going on (telling through the window). So we went to a cocktail bar first to have a drink (only male sets and mixed two sets there). At around 11:00 pm we go to the club and there’s legitimately nothing happening (sent a pic to Palma). So we decide to go to the next club (open, according to Google) – as a female 2set enters the room. Now I… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@NNN1 – ***** PAGING @ALL – HOW THE FUCK DO WE TURN THIS AROUND ***** While banging her in the car on Sunday I told her I wanted her to love me Did that translate right? You want her to be in love with you, and you told her that? That’s equivalent to telling her that you love her and in direct contravention of one of the rules of poon. If so that ^^ was a needy bad move. (which she said she can’t right now) She would have been well on the way to falling in love with the… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

Palma Classic Palma bat to the fence move… Good for you keeping the fire vur I guess for your son, making effort. I think you are in the right head space. He’s 20 gonna do what he does, HOWEVER in 5 years time or whatever he will look back on your long string of attempts and it will register. Until then , we’ll you are going to be envy busy soon mate 😂 NNN1 100% agree with Palma. You’ve shown too much soft blue underbelly, best thing you can do is limit contact and yes go off campus and hunt… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
1 month ago

@Palma – thanks for your quick reply, I wouldn’t be so far in with the bang without your advice. =I might see you on Friday on my terms but I probably won’t bang you. Probably, yet I’m super confident I would bang her there. I think I’m gonna reschedule to Sunday (in one or two days). Having set light to the hamster you ignored all that and she got nothing back –> Do I get this right, setting light to the hamster is usually good… Which would mean it’s actually better than I feared. you’ll greet other girls. I think… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
1 month ago

Compliance report: Went to the campus barn again today, to a party primarily for international students. I arrived at 8:30, maybe 8 people there in total. I chat uo a turkish girl standing slightly next to the group. Talked a bit, “isolated” her to the foyer as you could really not unerstand each other on the dancefloor. After maybe 15 minutes we head back in and she’s gone. Told me she didn’t like them noisy parties and I guess she left shortly after. Anyway, I go back to the one girl in the room that I know and chat with… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
1 month ago

@NNN1 Compliance report: Went to the campus barn again today, to a party primarily for international students. I arrived at 8:30, maybe 8 people there in total. I chat uo a turkish girl standing slightly next to the group. her hindbrain was taking her for a walk to get laid…lol… but not kidding… ‘not part of the group’ means she is out alone…lol… Talked a bit, “isolated” her to the foyer was this a secs location?… if not, where was the closest one?… as you could really not unerstand each other on the dancefloor. After maybe 15 minutes we head… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@HABD

if you’re bored you could give me your opinion of this with the exes new bf…

https://imgur.com/a/Fi0iw7Y

When I doorstepped her last week and she saw me through the door she was instantly in a furious rage – before she even opened it.

I’ve just got a blind spot on this

Within 30 seconds she was in the “you don’t love your son” zone

It’s inconceivable that I’m ever mentioned without her flying j to this rage and so it’s impossible she’s actually encouraging him to see me?

Surely??

As I said I’ve a blind spot on this..

having a bad day
having a bad day
1 month ago

@PalmaSailor some quick points… first, what is age of majority?… in my state, once the kid turns 18 (adult) child support stops… second, whenever somebody tells you they are not being influenced, they usually are … on some level at least… third, could there be the possibility that you overpaid based on past finances and she owes you a refund?…lol finally, assuming she did in fact say the words to ‘encourage’ the relationship with you, he might be clueless enough to actually believe that subtext and subtle punishment if your son did follow her words aren’t a real thing… good… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@HABD first, what is age of majority?… in my state, once the kid turns 18 (adult) child support stops… It is 18 but in my BP state I agreed to pay until he finished his first degree. So about another 18 months unless he becomes a permanent failing student. Which actually I doubt. A court may be able to change that. And it might. And if it does it’ll be the existence of her Range Rover that spikes the judge. I’ve witnessed it on a few occasions. Judges don’t like them. They signify “excess” second, whenever somebody tells you they… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
1 month ago

if not, where was the closest one? Womens closet. (got a bigger cubicle at the end) The turkish girl didn’t pass the boner test, didn’t realize that before I saw her in the brighter foyer. and you wonder why girls are sooo frustrated…lol OK, now looking back I’m bouncing between two extremes: 1. A night where I’m not getting any traction and 2. A night where I’m getting traction and miss the pull. So next time: When I’m around with her for more than 15 minutes and have her in isolation, go for the “You know, I’m hungry a bit… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
1 month ago

Party barn report: So as I said two old Homies from my Hometown came over to witness the world-famous Party barn They were scheduled to stay the night (on my carpet lol) but it turned out they went back home straight after the party was over. So when they arrived we first went to that little bar / restaurant on campus and had some little food. I was a bit nervous about the time to enter the venue, as at first there’s always nothing going on till suddenly there is and if you run ten minutes later than that point… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
1 month ago

@PalmaSailor The RD ventured an opinion that “clearly I do love my son, and when he realises what has been done to him, she will be fucked” could she be coming to this conclusion herself, basically, son No.1 is out all the time now and she’s losing control of him and so my continued presence is a colossal threat.? that’s what usually happens…lol… kids grow up… and eventually talk to other people…lol… son #1: you know, my mom always ‘encouraged’ me to see my dad, but somehow i just never felt it was right… son’s friend: ya, my sister’s bf… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
1 month ago

@NNN1 So next time: When I’m around with her for more than 15 minutes this is the wrong focus… ‘time in set’ is not relevant… seeing the IOI cues… and understanding the overall situ on a meta level is what you are needing to see… you could be good to go after just walking up and kissing her… provided all the subcommunication is lined up…lol… then just take her hand and lead her out… lol… but not kidding… we covered a bunch of this several years ago… but i think it was in the regular OPs comments… so it might… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
1 month ago

@NNN1 Party barn report: So as I said two old Homies from my Hometown came over to witness the world-famous Party barn They were scheduled to stay the night (on my carpet lol) but it turned out they went back home straight after the party was over. So when they arrived we first went to that little bar / restaurant on campus and had some little food. I was a bit nervous about the time to enter the venue, as at first there’s always nothing going on till suddenly there is and if you run ten minutes later than that… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

NNN1

–> So the new routine part should handle that right?

Where is the laser eye, closing space, the kino? Where is the sexual innuendo? The teasing?

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

NNN1

One of these guys is Non Sexual Fun Guy (NSFG) and one is not.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@HABD that’s what usually happens…lol… kids grow up… and eventually talk to other people…lol… son #1: you know, my mom always ‘encouraged’ me to see my dad, but somehow i just never felt it was right… I had the feeling that would happen when he got a guuuuuurrrrrrlllllfriend!!! I haven’t really seriously tried to stalk him online, but I have had a peek and he’s got almost no footprint. But one photo did escape and the RD announced “I think he’s definitely got a gf”.. and that would figure because we were very close indeed between 0-15. He’s still young… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
1 month ago

@habd was she trying get a feel?… or looking for spare change?…lol Get a feel, made out with her directly – pushed her against a column and made out some more. and he did it?…lol… good for you Sure. Walking hardon alpha chad, at least for the half hour beofre till morning. @Sentient Where is the laser eye, closing space, the kino? Where is the sexual innuendo? The teasing? Noted, the part of “just take her” wasn’t meant like “forget everything elese and just do that” but like “the rest works sufficiently that I need to focus on extending it… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

Palma I’ve never really looked in the mirror and thought “you de Alfa bro” but I don’t really follow anyone else’s rules or expectations unless I want to.. Funny how following the Platinum Rule looks like that… 🥂 Woman’s existential fear – being alone, lack of provision. She feels in her bones Plan B provision into old age, the son, might not pan out. And DiM Tim isn’t a lock. So – cog dis of this situation = rage… Rage is tripled 🔥 because she sees NO WAY BACK to you now you’ve departed the scene with hotter younger tighter… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@Sentient Just shootin the breeze here, but there is a thing on my side of the family with men struggling with their mothers. My mother was obvious. I lived in the same house but didn’t speak to her past about 16, by the time I was 19 she was dead so that was that. I remember my dad saying that his mother used to nag the fuck out of him as a boy and young man. Early doors he worked as an apprentice with an old boy who told him: “son, your mother has got more mouth than a cows… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
1 month ago

@Palma So @NNN1 – wine girl can’t actually leave you. I like that idea, given I’m N=2 I surely feel insecurity about it of course… Friday she showed up again, bringing 600g of steak (she was 10 minutes late, but she announced that half an hour before (didn’t react to that), so I guess it’s not a shit test). Had some sex (told her to get the candle from the kitchen). And lost that codome afterward (didn’t throw it away fast enough) having it drip out near her vagina. I told her to get that EllaOne pill (don’t need a… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
1 month ago

@Sentient one is not. The first one is acting like a clown and the other dude joining him is making that obvious as he’s not reacting to the clown. The second one is a millimeter short of pulling her, which is probably the length of her boyfriend’s dick. Next time I see “my girl” dancing with someone else I’ll walk up to her and pull her directly. Appendix to the reports from before: I guess DWG actually wanted her roommate + Social circle to know I was banging her. She directly was ok with heaviest makeouts (I’ve seen people make… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

Palma Man those are great pics of your dad. Amazing what 19 yo guys did back when. With a bit of luck there’s a pattern. Yeah this is very common. He’ll I left home and moved away and got married early to be rid. The Sopranos is based around his mother being a batch. With luck and some guidance ya boy will run through a bunch of girls and not look to settle with the first one. Palma with five more lil Palma’s 😂 that’s a vision. The PA Boys will be beside themselves. NnN1 With the now fuck buddy,… Read more »

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
1 month ago

Heh, yesterday in my daughter’s (age 7) grade in school: a girl had a crush on a boy and asked him to marry her. Boy politely declined saying he didn’t want to marry (wasn’t rude at all) and girl was sad. One of the teachers gave the boy detention and made him write a note to the girl telling her she was “amazing”. You couldn’t make it up. Boy’s mother is incredibly woke but in this case, her maternal instincts are kicking in and she’s furious and planning to create a ruckus at the school. (my wife wasn’t very happy… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@HABD So I’ve just got from the court a copy of the documents she should have served upon me but didn’t. There is page upon page of total fabrication. I can’t poast it here, but if you’ve got an anonymous email I’ll send it there. I’m being accused of “abuse” in virtually every paragraph. Or so it seems. Other stuff, she’s just outright mud slinging, it seems everything but everything is being flung. I hit the newspapers here with one of my businesses. Shes reproduced that. But she doesn’t know, that we got a .gov visit after that and I… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
1 month ago

@PalmaSailor What gives? seems like panic is setting it… I think that’s what it looks like when a girl’s manipulative strategies are no longer effective on any front… bc she is trying to reach back to a time when she did have some success… and it’s at the end of the guard dog spin cycle… typically, a girl can get provisioning compliance from some dude… just lower down the marketplace option shelf…lol… at least until she ends up at cats…lol… but her current situ might be getting tenuous… don’t forget this is also a massive sh^t test at tim but… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
1 month ago

@OTP teachers gave the boy detention and made him write a note to the girl telling her she was “amazing”. Detention in elementary school is a very special practice nowadays, I also experienced it as a little boy – for not doing my Homework some times. WIthout too much detail, there was a board on the wall where everyone’s “Forgotten Homework count” was noted and they said once you reach 6 you’ll be punished. I was at 4 times and the (female) teacher had a nervous breakdown yelling at me through the full classroom saying “it doesn’t matter whether you’ve… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@NNN1

It’s one thing being in girlfriend mode, which you are.

And it’s another wanting to “girlfriend her up”..

That^^ just stems from scarcity mentality.. you just want to keep the poon you’ve got ties to the bed…

That’s ok, but don’t think like that.

Is she wants to go – then fine – she’s a great girl and deserves to be happy…

But you need to hold the DGAF frame.

If she goes, half the planet is full of them.

NNN1
NNN1
1 month ago

Compliance report: I went to the barn, not just still coughing but kinda unable to talk in the noisy barn. Went in there last (all the ones who came a minute later weren’t let in any more) and met some fellow students. After staying with them for a short time I opened the first sets. I opened three all-female sets but didn’t get any traction – like none, nada. Always the same opener (also as for the last parties) “What subject do this gus look like?” – and why… Worked super-reliably but today. What could’ve been the problem? – First,… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
1 month ago

And it’s another wanting to “girlfriend her up”..
That^^ just stems from scarcity mentality.

True – so yeah. Still ain’t that “girfriend ‘er up” what most people do? – Or am I getting that wrong – Or is that what they do but what’s doomed for failure?

IAS
IAS
1 month ago

@Everyone: thanks for the props people. I still have a lot to improve on. I’m not particularly good at cold approach, for example, and I haven’t been out clubbing for years now. @NNN1: Who cares what “most people” do. You are not aiming to be most people. Palma actively chose to keep RD as gf/wife (it may appear he passively slipped into it but this was not the case). He did it with a lot of experience and thought, because it lined up with his objectives. I have my N=3 in girlfriend mode but she’s not my girlfriend and she… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

NNN1 I still want to convert her into a girlfriend (without giving up on the party barn of course lol), at least just for the practice.What are your thoughts @all? Substitute the word “plate” for girlfriend. At this stage, spin the plates. PS: The makeout with DWG seems to have had some effect on my rep, a female fellow student (while we were having a coffee in the cafeteria) told me a fellow student of her referred to me as “the flirty one” – now I inquired a bit there and she was like “not in a negative way”. So… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

PS –

comments like “flirty one”, “he’s trouble”, “he’s bad” etc. mean what in Cat-O-Nese?

They mean “if I’m not on my guard this guy can slip his P P into my V V”….

Formerly SJF
Formerly SJF
1 month ago
Formerly SJF
Formerly SJF
1 month ago

Heh!

NNN1
NNN1
1 month ago

@FSJF https://twitter.com/StirlingWisdom/status/1602662949809799170 Yep, especially the thing with “high-value men don’t fear silence, they embrace it”. I think this translates to texting as well. I guess I worry too much about DWG texting me everyday. In the end I care too much here… @Sentient They mean “if I’m not on my guard this guy can slip his P P into my V V”…. The word has more than just spread about my makeout with DWG in the party barn. A masters student (female, HB 8) chatted me up about it in the cafeteria. Didn’t have time in that moment but I… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@NNN1 Now this part needs more planning: I want to stand in the kitchen for a makeout with her. I can put the pan off the stove, press her against the fridge, hold her neck with one hand and pull her in a bit for a kiss. Then go on with that just a short time and pull back for “hey, we gotta have that flambé”. That would be going in harder than I ever have. I think too hard. If I were you I’d set the kitchen up, can she be on a stool watching so fixed to a… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@NNN1 I want to stand in the kitchen for a makeout with her. I can put the pan off the stove, press her against the fridge, hold her neck with one hand and pull her in a bit for a kiss. Ok so I’ve thought through my resistance to this idea, I never went in this hard at the outset. So.. whilst women DO need to be owned, in the way you suggest, they don’t want to be in danger. So it’s go in gently in the first instance. You can’t push them against the wall and give them what… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

You can’t push them against the wall and give them what they really want until they’re confident that you’re not gonna kill / hurt them, and they can stay STOP! and you will.

“The Game is won in comfort” – Mystery

NNN1
NNN1
1 month ago

So.. whilst women DO need to be owned, in the way you suggest, they don’t want to be in danger. So it’s go in gently in the first instance. OK, so I’m gonna keep this tuned down. D is sick and didn’t want to leave the house – which I actually believe true as the whole campus and especially our student group is coughing all day long. Just me, who’s on Codeine since Sunday. Today there’s a little christmas party in the party barn, but I’m out to have some fun with friends and not for gaming. Maybe gonna dance… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@NNN1 I don’t have time to reply properly Shit test: You don’t trust me Nuclear Shit Test: I’ve thought this in the car already but didn’t speak it out, that’s why I text you this now:
I think I really don’t know anyone for so long as you and have such a strong feeling that you totally distrust me and that this isn’t changing and always when I think I’ve confided something to you or made a step to you I realize again “Oh yes, this trust isn’t from your side” and I’m gonna tell you blatantly hones that’s really frustrating.… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
1 month ago

What has she done to earn your trust anyway? Why does she deserve it? Because she possesses a V? Nothing and she’s never gonna earn it. She’s genuinely earned my deep distrust though. My gut feeling is she picks up on me being genuinely uninterested in her, not as a person and even less as a sexual object. My characterization of her is: she’s a mentally unstable partygirl, always on the edge of heavy depression and completely clueless what she wants. And she’s been on the carussel for so long my conservative-blue-pill-me has lost respect for her character-play. Which I… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

^^

She’s not entitled to the steam off your piss never mind a “meeting” to discuss “trust” issues

Best case she’s just a pain in the arse, worse case she’s a borderline that will fuck your life

Bounce it. No explanations

And just avoid her

having a bad day
having a bad day
1 month ago

@NNN1 listen to @PalmaSailor…lol some good sh^t in here though…lol “So.. whilst women DO need to be owned, in the way you suggest, they don’t want to be in danger. So it’s go in gently in the first instance.” OK, so I’m gonna keep this tuned down. D is sick and didn’t want to leave the house – which I actually believe true as the whole campus and especially our student group is coughing all day long. Just me, who’s on Codeine since Sunday. Today there’s a little christmas party in the party barn, but I’m out to have some… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

Palma is right, this a nuclear sh^t test… it’s also beta bait… I didn’t see the beta bait bit it is and agreeing to the meet is falling into that. Nothing like a good negotiation with a girl before you go home alone… lol… bc this is straight from her hindbrain/hamster…lol You didn’t pick up on the covert signals so she run out of options and has to go overt… lol… she (her hindbrain) really wants the D… that’s how girls compete… I think she’s borderline and best avoided. You need strong game to contain one of those and it… Read more »

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
1 month ago

NNN1 – TLDR of what HABD and Palma are saying:

The reason she is having an emotional reaction to you, is BECAUSE she’s attracted to you. The emotional reaction IS the attraction. If she wasn’t interested in you, she wouldn’t care – she’d be indifferent.

having a bad day
having a bad day
1 month ago

@NNN1 PalmaSailor

So the question to the room is how to kick the legs out from the forthcoming “meeting”?

Just ignore it and her texts and don’t show

and dooown the emotional rollercoaster she goes!…lol

followed by inviting her over a few days later after ignoring her like nothing has happened and proceeding as usual?

aaand right back up she goes… as she hits the bottom of the hill after gaining lots of speed (emotional intensity)…lol

good luck!

NNN1
NNN1
1 month ago

here’s the teachable moment… what happens to the dynamic of your situ wrt her if you try to ‘gain her trust’?… are you qualifying to her?… chasing her?… hint – answer to both is yes…lol… luckily I never planned on actually discussing trust issues there, but to game her a bit. Now this seemed logical to me, until Palma pointed out the cafeteria there is really a bad dating place in this case and under this pretext. why?… serious question… your social conditioning/FI is getting in the way of you SEEING… for me it seems that trust and honor are… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
1 month ago

Just ignore it and her texts and don’t show and dooown the emotional rollercoaster she goes!…lol followed by inviting her over a few days later after ignoring her like nothing has happened and proceeding as usual? aaand right back up she goes… as she hits the bottom of the hill after gaining lots of speed (emotional intensity)…lol That sounds fun actually … probably paired with some shit from my AFC-Homie in the Social Circle. But that would only intensify the experience for me. just for shit and giggles –> That’s what I want here. The only difficult part is the… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
1 month ago

@NNN1 couple quick points… The only difficult part is the invitation for a few days later (’cause the next two weeks no one will be around on campus). it could be two weeks later…lol… just don’t negotiate… (probably won’t be any push-back from her…lol) and just tell her to come over… with no contact before then… and some plausible deniability as to the reason for her to come over… ie not just for the secs…lol Could invite her for around new year’s eve to my parents place – would be fun as well… this is a bad idea…lol… sooo, pop… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

^^^^

this is a bad idea…lol… sooo, pop quiz…

Errrr….. yeah… that is a really really bad idea…

If it wasn’t a joke… you need to do the quiz…

NNN1
NNN1
1 month ago

OK, L. flaked as well. She gave shitloads of deniability though, as she “drove to her parents and stays there for her grandma is sick…” // could be true of course, but I don’t know… So I went to a nice bar with my roommate. I texted E 12 minutes before scheduled time I wouldn’t make it. She answered wether I woul just run late or wouldn’t make it at all (NNN1 won’t make it at all…). No further texts from her yet, so nothing to ignore yet. @NNN1 Could invite her for around new year’s eve to my parents… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
1 month ago

If it wasn’t a joke…
Did it anyway…

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

You texted E……

Ugh….

How’s it go ? Can you feel that hand on your shoulder.. lol…

The whole point was to ignore her, and you’ve acted Beta nice guy by COMMUNICATING!!!!

She should have been left there on her own – no contact. That’s the arsehole who DGAF that they want to bang….

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

Nnn1

You failed the quiz. Put those red 💊 👓 back on and retake.

NNN1
NNN1
1 month ago

You failed the quiz. Put those red 💊 👓 back on and retake.

That night’s far too valuable for ME to even think about sharing time there with her…

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