For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.
So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.
There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.
Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.
So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.
@Flushed It’s a good idea right now to treat this more like a game than anything else. Thursday is a long way away, and this has last minute flake written all over it so you need to get some contingency to give you abundance mindset. Here’s a text interaction I got from online a couple of years ago. I think I got bored with her in the end, and suspected she was ugly from the fact she was withholding a decent picture so I really did stop texting and watch Breaking Bad, but I was practicing sticking to the rule… Read more »
@Flushed Good stuff – it looks like your reprogramming/attitude change has started – it’s what Sentient calls “Doing The Work” (of changing your mindset) I won’t be able to post in detail for a few days but you’re getting great advice. The main thing to keep in mind: This girl does not matter. No individual girl matters – it’s not like this is your wife you’ve had three kids with and there are consequences to messing up the relationship. These interactions are just practice – it’s fine to take risks, it’s fine to blow things up. There will be more… Read more »
@Flushed Damn @OTP it seems at this rate the only thing that doesn’t count as chasing is bending her over in public right on the spot. that could STILL be in her frame…lol… but that^^^ is only bc you haven’t learned to SEE… yet… just keep reading and play… you’ll get there… I’m beginning to think AF isn’t even feasible in any situation where I’m actually attracted to the person, if I’m going by these gigachad standards. first, don use ‘gigachad’… or any other incel-ish labels… you need to let go of that pejorative mindset… those are the types of… Read more »
” . . . if you think/believe that she’s the only ‘9’ . . .”
If 9s are only 1 in 10,000 women, you could repopulate Tampa Florida with nuttin’ but 9s, and have 15 to 20,000 or so held in reserve.
Thanks as always for the thoughtful responses @Palma, @HaBD & @OTP Ok, you guys are totally right, this is highly likely to be a flake, and the only way I can redeem it is by leaving no more than 20 minutes after she shows up. So I think I’ve at least figured out one thing. The man and the woman these days both tend to start from the woman’s frame, and learning to live from my own frame will be jarring to both parties, in a good way, even if she does react with disdain. She’ll fight to keep that… Read more »
Flushed
Less talky talky more worky worky.
Did you talk to girls today?
@Sentient I talked with my Tinder matches from today & said hi to tattoo girl at the gym. Yar, need to do more.
@Flushed – the first part of your post is correct about being in your frame. What you need to practice and internalize is actually doing that – it’s harder than it sounds because at this stage you don’t even know what “your frame” is. As for what your friends say – lol. Of course they’d say that. As HABD says “the FI is cunning and pervasive”. This is a big topic but suffice it to say that what they mean by “being yourself” is “doing what the FI wants” aka “what suits girls best” – we’re telling you how to… Read more »
@Flushed – look at it this way. The goal (one of many) is to train you to invest less and not chase women. One of the tools to help you train – like a machine at the gym – is the 2/3s rule. But as you understand the principles better, you can ignore the 2/3s rule and text more and engage more and still avoid investing too much – but until you’re at that point (kind of like how you learn enough about strength training that you don’t need a personal trainer to design a workout program for you), it’s… Read more »
Well, you might just ask your friends how well their “advice” has worked for them so far. Obviously there are some naturals who really are succesfull being “just themselves”, but their “themselves” is very different from mine (or yours probably too). And just the fact we’re both here, or you having spent many hours on doom pill / INCEL channels is proof for that. I tried “red-pilling” friends of mine, or at least talk about it with them. And it worked, but only for guys thoroughly ready to see and ignore or let go of prior conditioning. I have one… Read more »
@Flushed Every time I read one of your poasts my gut rings an alarm bell you’re trolling but my brain rationalises you’re not. Historically my gut has always been right even when the evidence seems huge and my brain has over ruled it. Cost me £100k once. When you say things like “GigaChad” And “being genuinely yourself” I just think there’s a load of incels somewhere in a forum giving your virtual high fives you’ve got us going for one more round. Like they’ve given you a load of phrases you’ve gotta say and it’s a bet you can’t get… Read more »
So I suggested screen shotting your interaction, but you didn’t, you re typed it.
Truth
@Flushed Thanks as always for the thoughtful responses @Palma, @HaBD & @OTP Ok, you guys are totally right, this is highly likely to be a flake, and the only way I can redeem it is by leaving no more than 20 minutes after she shows up. lol… you can’t redeem a ‘flake’… flaking means she doesn’t show up… just don’t be butthurt when that happens… like i said, it’s a sh*t test… So I think I’ve at least figured out one thing. The man and the woman these days both tend to start from the woman’s frame, only if you… Read more »
@Sentient
Did you talk to girls today?
Nope.
There are none anywhere that he’s speaking to. It’s all imaginary.
Which is why nothing can be put into practice and it goes round and round in circles.
He’s living in his head.
@PalmaSailor @Flushed Every time I read one of your poasts my gut rings an alarm bell you’re trolling but my brain rationalises you’re not. Historically my gut has always been right even when the evidence seems huge and my brain has over ruled it. Cost me £100k once. When you say things like “GigaChad” And “being genuinely yourself” you’re not wrong…lol… i get that^^ too… buut, like i’ve been saying, @flushed reps a certain demo that really doesn’t even know the right questions to ask… and yes they do ping as incels… but that cluelessness is upstream cause from the… Read more »
@NNN1 Well, you might just ask your friends how well their “advice” has worked for them so far. Obviously there are some naturals who really are succesfull being “just themselves”, but their “themselves” is very different from mine (or yours probably too). And just the fact we’re both here, or you having spent many hours on doom pill / INCEL channels is proof for that. I tried “red-pilling” friends of mine, or at least talk about it with them. And it worked, but only for guys thoroughly ready to see and ignore or let go of prior conditioning. I have… Read more »
I’m still here, but it’s inefficient, considering the trolls and the medium. @OTP @ HABD if there is another forum where you two dedicate your time online, please share. I’d like to hop over there.
@Flushed I’m still here, good… what actions have to taken today to talk to anybody… but especially girls?… but it’s inefficient, no it’s not… if i (or anybody else) need to point you to a specific OP by @Rollo, this is the best place for that… that’s just your ego defense looking for an escape route… considering the trolls and the medium. there are no trolls here…lol… and the medium here is the same as any other forum… that’s just the FI pushing on you… bc it really is in the FI’s interest for you to continue to ‘know your… Read more »
Ok, fuckers. Here’s your field report. Girl 1 was a flake, you were right. She gave me an excuse and wanted to know where I was at the time, I told her where I’d be later and invited her to join me. Radio silence. Girl 2 who said the other day “see you tomorrow” also a flake. Didn’t show up to the meetup. I went to a dance thing but couldn’t understand any of it, so I walked out about 20 minutes in to go to the meetup. At the meetup, I am in a pretty bad mood. And at… Read more »
@Flushed that’s more like it for a FR!!!… see that wasn’t so hard was it?…lol… and your ego just got roughed up a little… not beat up… Well, guys. How badly did the trollbot fuck up this time? you actually did really well!!!… and props on getting/staying in the game… i’m busy for a couple of days but I’ll try to get to your FR breakdown some time this weekend… or early next week… until then your homework is to just practice your spanish by saying hi (the first person to speak) to at least 3 people every place you… Read more »
@Sentient Hookers in bars When you poasted that comment about the hookers on high end bars, I knew exactly what you meant but looking back I think I’ve only ever seen one. That was in Claridges, which was the bar I used to hang out in most weekends before I went to the PRG, and so I put that down to the doormen weeding them out / not letting them in. Now there were some very questionable women already with the men in that bar, but that looked like a “bring your own” type situation. It was actually a brilliant… Read more »
nteresting thing about the modest spending and the perception of how you live. When I used to hang out in Claridges I would get the train in to Marylebone (£11 return off peak) from my apartment which is nearly where I live now and about 20 minutes. Then I’d walk from Marylebone station and I might stop for one beer en route if I liked the look of a particular bar (£5 back then, now probably £6+) Then I might have 3 beers in Claridges at £8 each for a small bottle. The whole gig was about £40, definitely below… Read more »
It was actually a brilliant hang out. Conversation with people at the bar etc.. Very true, loved Claridge’s. I was more of a Connaught guy myself, back before they fucked it all up. Just a better class of people at 5 star places in terms of interesting and conversation. What I’ve found is generally the people there are just more secure in who they are, they just “are”. You don’t get as much of the striving, name dropping, one upping as you do at a mid tier places. In many respects they are a parallel to your wc/dive bar. If… Read more »
@Sentient
Act now!!! At $500…
Damn, when you got a cash burn relative to time (the room) you gotta get Overhead Recovery.. lol..
And I get it that they can get a bit choosy at that level by only banging guys they would anyway..
Hey Flushed – great job on taking action and learning. That’s the first real FR I’ve seen from you – good job on pushing your boundaries (and coming back here to post that and reflect and learn). That looks a lot like the kind of FR I’d write almost a decade ago. Do read Mystery Method and Rollo’s stuff if you haven’t already or you won’t understand the principles behind what I am saying below. I can’t write too much now to do a line by line breakdown but a few thoughts below. Generally my takeaway is that you did… Read more »
@Sentient
re the pro story…
if you knew then…etc…
how would you spin her into a desire secs ‘one-off’…
also spot the sh*t tests in your story for extra points…lol
no time now but it’s an analysis rich FR…lol
good luck!
That’s an interesting one HABD. I wasn’t there of course and I think it would be very difficult given her level of attractiveness and choice. That said – it would have to be based on aggressive disqualification from the start. Sentient’s biggest problem was that he actually fit her target demographic (older man she actually wanted to bang AND who could afford her). Normally being married would help with disqualification but of course not with her. If he had got into the same conversation with her but she had been under the impression he was poor (say she’d had the… Read more »
@OTP
That’s an interesting one HABD. I wasn’t there of course and I think it would be very difficult given her level of attractiveness and choice.
who’s frame is that^^^?…
good luck!
It’s very high risk
frame?…
and how’s that FI treatin’ ya?…lol
you really have let yourself go…lol
good luck!
@HABD
Hey… don’t give me too many clues… this is my Saturday am puzzle over early A.M. Cofvefee:
how would you spin her into a desire secs ‘one-off’…
also spot the sht tests in your story for extra points…lol*
Replies manana am GMT..!
@Palma
ok… no spoilers…lol
i’m tooo busy till the end of the weekend anyway…
@OTP
you need to try @Sentient’s FR also… you need some practice, bro…lol
good luck!
Palma In the early 90s a man named Joe Ades began showing up in the bar at the Pierre, Manhattan’s famously posh hotel on the corner of Fifth Avenue and East 61st Street. Joe liked the crowd at the Café Pierre, but the real draw for him was Kathleen Landis, the dimpled, piano-playing house chanteuse who still entertains there five nights a week. Joe was a five-nights-a-week man as well, always seated at the same round table with a front view of the baby grand and a back view of Landis. He drank only champagne, and never alone. His usual… Read more »
Heheheh… remember “how would you open?”…
@Sentient
Heheheh… remember “how would you open?”…
ya…lol… those were fun…
let’s play!…
@OTP (or anybody else that wants to play…lol)
path to daylight (p in v) for blonde^^^… (just broad strokes… don’t get off in the weeds…)
GO!!!…
lol… but not kidding…
good luck!
bonus round…
extra points for the threesome!!!…
lol… but also not kidding…
good luck!
and i mean the two girls…lol… not the blonde and the dude…lol
good luck!
@HABD: I’d open the guy and ask if she is a good kisser. As Sentient says, in such a setting, those two are probably pros and I’d imagine the opener would catch the attention of the that dark haired one. The blonde probably gets pissed that you are interfering (emotions are good), the guy probably DLVs himself. I’d get some shit tests back and then I’d have to improvise based on that. Throw in some “Sure you are hot, but what else” style stuff to follow up on the “good kisser?”. To get either one of the girls out (for… Read more »
Ok bear in mind this is over Cofvefee, and not in the heat of the event, which I almost certainly would have flunked because these women operate by flipping the script on us and they do it every day to survive. Out of the box women have an implied higher value, yet to actually get paid munny right now for a cold blood transaction they still have to sell it. Not even the most blue pill of men really want to do that overtly. Especially with a woman that has to sell it. I remember a quote by Peter Stringfellow… Read more »
@Sentient
Joe would say simply, “I sell potato peelers.”
We’ll he owned it didn’t he… and I’ll bet he did better at that than most people would expect.
IAS
Pros don’t kiss! 💋
“And then she slipped in the pro aspect, and said I was hot and we liked each other and she had a room here and for 2500 we could go up to it, or word’s to that effect. Which I found completely fascinating, so being business minded got into the nitty gritty with her. Another round. She explained the money is just too good and she needs the freedom for auditions and classes and what not. She said she had four regulars on monthly retainer, 10k each, for one “date” a week. All centi millionaire married guys in their 50s.… Read more »
Stuff…
The farmers boy came back from a trip to the big city.
Paw, Maw!! We have a to plant a new crop?
Eh, what’s this sonny?
Hair!
Hair???
Yeah Paw. I met this woman in the city, and she made $100k off a patch no bigger then her hand!!!
Path to daylight for blonde: Walk up between her and the brunette Order drink (first), don’t rush. Open the brunette, engage her and get her laughing – enough so the blonde notices. Ideally say something to get her to open the blonde, or if not open the couple yourself together with the brunette. Find out logistics and whether the guy is her boyfriend or just someone she met etc and depending on the answer run standard Mystery Method/group theory stuff (also will depend on whether the two girls know each other or not). You may be right HABD – I… Read more »
Also I just realized – it’s not so much that I don’t go to nightclubs etc anymore – it’s more that for the last few years I’ve completed switched off the general “hunter/seeker” mode in day to day life that I used to be a lot more alert to (and which even back then needed more work) and that has a bunch of consequences…
@Palma
are you done?… I think the other players might be ready for some clues/questions…
good analysis btw…
good luck!
Love you guys.
@SJF sorry to hear about roused… @Rollo If you don’t mind me asking, what happened with sjf? I know EhIntellect went off the deep end… and after i spent a lot of time helping him try to fix his being able to see… but sh*t happens… can’t save everybody… etc.. i think he was a severe casualty of the FI… my best guess is that he was super BP and just tried RP bc he thought it wouldn’t work but then it did… too well… and he couldn’t reconcile the cognitive dissonance wrt reality… and then he got lost… but… Read more »
HABD, Rollo doesn’t know or care about my situ. EhIntellect was a close internet and in real life buddy of mine. But he went rogue. And fell out from me. But also led to Rollo banning me. For alleged, non proper cause. I suspect Rollo didn’t like me for being Trad Con. But EhIntellect was certifiable Psychopath. And 100% narcissist. Think like Andrew Tate. But not in a bad way. Good all the way down. When functional. Lol. I saw Andrew Tate and Mike Cernovitch in like 2017 or 2019 back in the Trump Hotel at a DERM convention. But… Read more »
“@Rollo If you don’t mind me asking, what happened with sjf? I know EhIntellect went off the deep end… and after i spent a lot of time helping him try to fix his being able to see… but sh*t happens… can’t save everybody… etc.. i think he was a severe casualty of the FI… my best guess is that he was super BP and just tried RP bc he thought it wouldn’t work but then it did… too well… and he couldn’t reconcile the cognitive dissonance wrt reality… and then he got lost…” @ HABD Rollo doesn’t know shit about… Read more »
And I don’t care.
If you don’t want my comments.
I don’t really care.
SJF – good to hear from you man. Glad to hear you’re doing well – we were just talking about how the 2016 era in the comments was fantastic. I was on my break from here when you got banned but Rollo clearly wants you gone which is a real pity.
If I remember correctly – EhIntellect was the guy who made a lot of RP improvements in his life and marriage but seemed to have an incredibly volatile marriage and seemed to get into a fight every time he went into a bar and he wouldn’t listen to us when we said that if he was getting into fights and arguments every time then there was something in his vibe that was triggering it? Or am I thinking of someone else?
@OTP
yep… that was him… regardless of what @SJF says, he was pretty BP… he was a great case study though…lol
good luck!
@HABD
are you done?
Yep…
I just spent the entire night with multiple groups of beautiful women all around the 24-26 age, with functional Spanish and I ran into a plateau. Too tired to elaborate now. I got the number of the one I’m most attracted to (she spoke great English, been abroad, 97% sure it’ll be a flake) and I got in good with a family member of one of the best clubs, where the night started. But nothing else, didn’t dance with them in a sensual way, just the cheek kiss, barely was able to use any of the Mystery stuff. I am… Read more »
On my way to the coffee shop I walk past an art gallery that usually has some stuff in the window which I don’t pay much attention to. But today this by Todd White, apparently from LA… https://imgur.com/a/jwL8a09 Top one is called “I leave scars” and she is collecting skulls around her tutu as a ballerina. The idea that a woman “leaves scars” as opposed to “being the object of the aggression” ie the one with the scars is a definite flip of the FI script. Bottom picture, titled “Sugar Shack” I’d have every one of those women as DTF… Read more »
@SJF
Cheers 🍻
Looks like you had a good night on the whisky celebrating the birth of your grand daughter!
Lol…
Flushed – good work. Sounds like you had a great night. Write a detailed FR if possible – even if we weren’t here to comment it would be a good way to reflect and improve – just like keeping a training journal at the gym.
Now do that 3-5 times a week (speaking to 20-40 girls each night ideally) and in 6-12 months your abilities and skills will be unrecognizable (also your Spanish will probably be a whole lot better given where you are..)
It’s been a year since I’ve spoken with EhIntellect.
He was doing well at the time. He was too, too successful at utilizing red pill “tools”. Because he had mad skills.
Now that you say it HABD, he was blue pill like Cypher in the Matrix.
He wanted the Matrix back.
Cypher: Another human freed by Morpheus, and a crewmember of the Nebuchadnezzar, but one who regrets taking the red pill and seeks to be returned to the Matrix, later betraying the rebels to Agent Smith.
Eh is all the way back at Page 1
https://therationalmale.com/field-reports-comment-page-2-comments/#comment-181555
He went Godpill for some reason…
@Sentient
@Eh didn’t have a Rev limiter either…
It was binary with him.
I think he went mad on the dread and almost destroyed everything.
His wife is very charming. And she made him do it.
And this is the RP exemplar? Lol
I still chuckle thinking about his FR’s, his wife drinking gin off of his cocktail.
How does that play in “small group”?
IDK i liked Eh and always said as much, he pushed things and did the work, no O’Dea what caused him to back track.
Roused
He was a deer hunter, friend of that kid, Sky something?
He’s gone? He wasn’t that old.
Speaking of old crew…
Blax?
ASD?
IRL?
Sun?
@Sentient The poster you are thinking about is Forge in the Sky. About EhIntellect, there was definitely something off about the way he wrote. If he was posting truthfully about what was happening (I wonder how much of it was in his imagination rather than in reality) he was frequently getting into fights and one time he apparently got beaten up. Was it maybe 3 or 4 fights in a few months of going out with his wife around? Maybe she was into “Lets you and him fight”… An interesting comparison is Palma, who I’ve been with in person, is… Read more »
this thread of comments is very disorganised. Is there a group or a way to check comments in a more orderly way?
I’ve never had a girlfriend, other than long-distance, and I’m 26. I’ve decided to finally put the red pill into action in the field. I would love to get to know the fam and contribute my experiences in this new journey that is ahead of me. Many things to talk about, but I’m having some trouble to follow along the conversations of this sort of forum
I’ve seen you ask for more brackground info in order to share your wisdom, so that’s what I’m going to do: I’m 26, I teach English in a spanish-speaking country, Colombia to be more exact. I work in an academy where I meet a lot of young women every now and then but feel unsure about hitting on them, idk how to even hit on them directly tbh. My only “relationship” was with a long-distance friend whom I visited and spent time with for 5 days. The break-up broke me and led me to Rollo. I slept with almost 100… Read more »
@IAS
An interesting comparison is Palma, who I’ve been with in person, is quite “in-your-face”
I’m not actually as in your face as you may have thought, it just looked like it from your perspective at the time.
I’m having some trouble to follow along the conversations of this sort of forum*
Is this what we’ve been reduced to now?
ffs
@Apoc
Welcome
More than 2 years have passed.
So you were led to Rollo 2 years ago. You can do a lot in 2 years.
Give us an idea which parts of his work you’ve read, what you believe the concepts of the RP (which you are being ridiculed for) and what work you’ve done on yourself.
Finally what you expect from here.
And no, there isn’t and other way to organise the comments.
@Sentient
Is this what we’ve been reduced to now?
ffs
I was just thinking exactly that / Or another / the same troll re badged but decided to give him the benefit of the doubt.
That demographic is probably used to “just having it all the way they want it”
Plus it’s a MASSIVE buffer… “didn’t do the work bc I couldn’t get my head around the formatting”… weak but I can just see it.
IT nerd type style…
So yeah, @Apoc, you’re welcome, but no, there isn’t an easier route.
@all players…lol I’ll try to get to @Sentients pro story soon… but, in the lingering pause let’s deconstruct the situ presented in the latest episode of “Can you open a HOTT!!! GIRL better than a Fifth Grader” ™ lol… questions… all related to your first step in planning your path to daylight … = SEEING what is right in front of you… 1) are the two girls together?… list the indicators that you can see… 2) is the blonde or the dude holding the frame?… list the indicators… 3) where are the blonde and brunette in the process of socializing?…… Read more »
OK, so my report from the weekend: Friday night was scheduled two events, 1st a birthday of my cousin and 2nd a bigger county party some miles away. Saturday was then scheduled the birthday party of my Homie from university, several hundred miles away. Friday can be characterized by diluvian-like rainfalls. While they put a pause to our Bavarian late-summer, they also enabled to re-ramp energy production, which was in serious danger of coming to a halt because of the drought. And the tightening energy crisis in Europe allows for hope of even higher energy prices by the month. Anyway,… Read more »
@NNN1 – I thought that was an excellent FR. Of course you can improve – everyone can improve because you’re never perfect but you did most things right and your self-analysis and reflection at the end is good too. The main thing that struck me is that you should have escalated more and stopped worrying about number closes or Instagram closes – with several girls, but particularly the HB8 Irish girl – like go for a walk or “to get fresh air” or to get a drink or whatever – just get her in isolation, and go for the makeout… Read more »
@Apoc and @Jeisson – welcome to the forum. It’s good to see more new people and more activity here. This is a bit of a “hot kitchen” – we won’t always be “nice” and sometimes it can come across as rude – but there are many experienced men here who are willing to put in the time to help you because they were in turn helped by other men to understand and apply the Red Pill – provided you are willing to put in the work and make an effort (as Flushed has recently started doing). Tell us more about… Read more »
Forge the Sky was a cool guy – he learned a lot from YaReally too. Last I remember – pre COVID – he had a relationship with an attractive 18 year old (in his early 30s I think) but he couldn’t keep it going in the face of opposition from her family. HABD – okay, just for you I will try to answer those questions – I clearly need to reactivate my RP lenses after disuse for years: The two girls are probably together but it is not totally clear. Obviously they are standing near each other but not right… Read more »
@OTP
where is the brunette’s drink?
good luck!
and how many drinks does the blonde have?… and why might she have all those?…lol
good luck!
@OTP
” I don’t see where you’re coming from with this one HABD..”
same as always…lol
trying to get you to be able to SEE what is right in front of you… and to cut through all the social conditioning…
good luck!
There is also another brunette which may or may not be a part of the girl group, engaged to another guy. 1) are the two girls together?… list the indicators that you can see… They seem to be together. There is a plate in the middle, the orangey drink may belong to the guy but statistically he would be right handed. 2) is the blonde or the dude holding the frame?… list the indicators… The blonde. The guy is leaning over and facing into the counter. The blonde also has an arm up controlling the distance. 3) where are the… Read more »
LR I’ve been wanting for an opportunity to get this one for a few months. She is really fit, short but really perfect body – and just my type. She isn’t the most beautiful girl in the world but she is not ugly. If she had a prettier face she could be an 8 for me. The body is an 8 for me (my type), although I think to be a (fitness) model she would also need to be taller. I met her in an event out of my city, where I went to teach about my sports related hobby,… Read more »
HABD – the blonde has two drinks (one in her hand and one behind her which may be water). The beer is probably the guy’s. The brunette is ordering her drink so she doesn’t have one in front of her.
Are you suggesting the blonde has been collecting drinks from all the guys who have been approaching her and then dismissing them for the next one to turn up?
@HABD: this is not the environment I’m used to, but your hints help. Are those drinks fairly sure to belong to blonde, or the bartender can leave them around there and they belonged to someone else? If they do belong to blonde, either she is getting drinks offered by the guy, or she is intentionally (even if subconsciously) getting inebriated to lower her inhibitions (seems to be working). In that case, she may well be ovulating and trying really hard to get fucked. The brunette will likely put a stop to that because the blonde’s target didn’t know enough game… Read more »
@OTP and IAS
if the girls are together why doesn’t the brunette have one and the blonde has at least two (one not even touched yet…) and possibly 4… I think the first one was water… by the bar back…
( and think about the dynamic of THAT…)
this setup (seeing it) is important bc it let’s you see how to play the situ…
good luck!
@IAS
your personal preference wasn’t part of the case study…lol
the ‘problem’ was p in v for the blonde… or threesome for extra points ..lol
this is to try to get you out of your social conditioning…
good luck!
NNN1 Good work the red cocktail dress of the HB 8. Never forget this… quick hits – IOI from the 6… this should be your back up girl. Keep her warm through the night with a little attention here and there. And it’s way too early to isolate at an event like this when people ar ejust arriving. don’t force it. Start out presenting as a “cool, social guy” BUT keep focused on the prize and how to get there. RUTHLESS Ya see… once again you went out without a plan. Where were you going to bank miss red dress… Read more »
The three girls are together.
The brunette in background with her back to the camera has one drink.
The guy in the glasses she is talking to has one drink.
The blonde has one drink.
The guy going for the kiss has the beer.
The brunette in the foreground has no drink and her bag is in the “I’m ready to go” position, but she is in not yet anxious to do so.
She is not watching her blonde friend, she is watching her other brunette friend, not with a frown, but with slightly pursed lips, expressing interest.
No tome to properly look at This but the blonde and brunette are not together. Blonde has a drink in her hand and also bar nibbles, they’ve eaten half of them leaving the nuts Brunette is trying to get attention of he Barman and she has a crumpled up note in her hand. Her demeanour is shoulders hunched, she wants service and a drink!! And she can’t get his attention. Plus she has what looks like a wrapped present on the bar. Shape is too odd for a bag, so likely she’s gong to an event. No more time now..… Read more »
@OTP
Are you suggesting the blonde has been collecting drinks from all the guys who have been approaching her and then dismissing them for the next one to turn up?
Muh… no.. shakin ma head
The bloke the blonde is kissing has been buying the drinks all night and those are the empties though the barman should have cleared them
The brunette on the left of the blonde is with that guy next to her.
None of the 3 are together
” . . . those are the empties though the barman should have cleared them . . .” That struck me as being as odd as the bag. It doesn’t look like the sort of place that would have a half-assed barman, so he must be working at a bit past his limits at the moment. Setting aside the empties (which indicate time), the drinks match up one to a person (although their positions are somewhat odd. So one of them is a leftie), except for glasses guy, who appears to have two, but one of them isn’t his. It’s… Read more »
@OTPHABD – the blonde has two drinks (one in her hand and one behind her which may be water). The beer is probably the guy’s. The brunette is ordering her drink so she doesn’t have one in front of her.
Are you suggesting the blonde has been collecting drinks from all the guys who have been approaching her and then dismissing them for the next one to turn up?
no… but i’m not always sure how to get you to stretch out of your comfort zone…lol… sometimes the examples don’t land the right way…lol…
good luck!
@all ok, here’s my take on the situ with the blonde… blonde is there with her friend… the brunette on the other side… – they are back to back (and touching each other… with enough room on the other side of the blonde for her to shift over if she was uncomfortable…) in defensive position…lol far side brunette has one drink… and is actually interested in the other dude… bc her drink is close to his… and farther away from her than his drink is to him… indicating that she is open to encroaching on his space… and she seems… Read more »
The blonde and the guy in the middle are on a first date that’s going well It’s not a second date because they’re not gonna waste their time in a bar again once they’ve banged if he makes a half decent job of it On the face of it it’s her frame bc he’s leaning in, but I can’t discount it’s his frame bc he’s pushing her up against the bar and owning her. This is what I suspect. He’s owning her, she loves it, he’s closed the deal, she’s DTF Those two guys aren’t winging each other, I can’t… Read more »
My only quibble with the layout Those aren’t apps, that’s nuts or chips and olives, which is put out for all (see other at end). The near brunette has a cocktail napkin in her hand I believe. I think HABD’s right on the far and blonde knowing each other, doesn’t look like Brunette is on a date, looks like a “getting to know you” from the guy’s posture. Personally I’d be fine with the brunette, slide on over, bar posture to force an open with her and if none, “wow this place is busy” indirect open and get her talking.… Read more »
@Sentient all Just a better class of people at 5 star places in terms of interesting and conversation. What I’ve found is generally the people there are just more secure in who they are, they just “are”. You don’t get as much of the striving, name dropping, one upping as you do at a mid tier places. In many respects they are a parallel to your wc/dive bar. If you can talk to and get on with people. And staff are as happy with an engaging customer as they are with a tip. And your right you can find value… Read more »
@Sentient
i’m crackin’ up!… that’s a great move in…lol
Those aren’t apps, that’s nuts or chips and olives, which is put out for all (see other at end). The near brunette has a cocktail napkin in her hand I believe.
that’s what i thought, but i don’t go to those super highend venues…lol…
still puts the two empty glasses on the check…
good luck!
The drink on the bar behindish the blonde appears to attach to her because it’s the far brunette who’s the leftie, who has turned away from it to talk to glasses guy. Glasses guy’s two drinks are entirely within his sphere of influence and entirely outside the sphere of influence of the girl. The only way one of them could be the girl’s is if the guy took it away from her. I don’t think that happened. Glasses guy is well into his drink, but the other one is not a fresh replacement. Someone has drunk from it. Someone who… Read more »
@Flushed props on getting out the door and posting a FR… Ok, fuckers. Here’s your field report. Girl 1 was a flake, you were right. She gave me an excuse and wanted to know where I was at the time, I told her where I’d be later and invited her to join me. Radio silence. that’s the proper response… the only reason she didn’t respond/show up is that you hadn’t built up enough value to her yet… Girl 2 who said the other day “see you tomorrow” also a flake. Didn’t show up to the meetup. same thing as above…… Read more »
@kfg
The drink on the bar behindish the blonde appears to attach to her because it’s the far brunette who’s the leftie, who has turned away from it to talk to glasses guy.
could be… how would that change your approach?… (if it would…)
good luck!
“… how would that change your approach?”
I wouldn’t be at the bar.