Field Reports

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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 months ago

@Centuries CC asked me to meet up briefly early this evening to reiterate that she wants to just be friends. I don’t know what to make of that -I nearly said get her free fix of attention – but someone else may be able to read more into it. @Captain Spock? Seems fucked up to verbalise that as the purpose of the meet. Meet you to reiterate that she just wanted friendship. There’s a worm in my head that’s saying she’s offering you proximity yet again so you can bust a move. But either way kicking her to the kerb… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
2 months ago

Linking in to Palma: It’s right, people (especially ones who might feel like competing with you) will dislike your success, maybe because it reminds them of what they actually wanted to achieve but never really did. Now, again a micro field report: Last Tuesday I had another exam and – as it is the unwritten rule – that means partying afterwards as everybod is on campus. So as we stand in the park partying a bit, I meet a girl, A. (now this might get confusing, she’s not the french one. Had a nice chit-chat in the group. And apart… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago

Centuries Listen to Palma. On attraction switches, the biggest and best is pre-election, being wanted by other women, because that assumes all the others. A guy with lots of preselection has lots of options and doesn’t do things like this: “. I told her no way can I be just friends, I’ve vowed not to do that again and related a real story of a girl that I have been friends with and how it went badly for me.” Anyeah your social circle is going to react guys the most in a negative way. Bone right the women may SAY… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 months ago

@Sentient I’ve been stumped on the pre selection thing for a bit because on the face of it, it’s protection and food. Why should pre selection be so strong? And we’re studying basically the motivations that are still with us that happened in caves. Because when this temporary glitch is out of the way, it will still be the same things in play that will protect the future of the species. – protection and feeding of the host parent while the offspring matures. The idea that you feed and protect a woman doesn’t seem a big deal right now but… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago

Palma

Yes preselection is a short cut on diligence. And women are herd animals – fashion, culture etc.

Preselection implies the other attraction
switches:

Leader of men
Protector of loved ones
Successful Risk taker
Ability to emote

Of course the power of preselection is squared by the attractiveness and quantity of women demonstrating interest.

As I’m sure you see when out with RD.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
2 months ago

Also, Palmasailor, preselection runs into the modern girl world just fine: “Oh, he has a girl, so he can’t be too inept in bed, has some basic skills, not a psycho axe-murderer”. All of these are rationalizations, of course, and can be utterly false, but the firmware in her head doesn’t actually think, it just sees patterns. IMO this is why the jealousy scenes mentioned by many Game authors work, because “If she has him, I want him” is a primal brain pattern. Women even now are willing to share a man they perceive as Alpha because way back in… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
2 months ago

@All I’ll try to get to @Centuries sh*t soon… Maybe… Lol… (I had a big comment that got swallowed by the interwebs… And not in a good way…lol) but I’m on my phone so keepin’ short… Heads up! PSA… It looks like the Deep State Players ™ are in full blown realization/ panic mode…lol… Too many folks are pushing back hard on more lockdown/CRT bull sh*t…lol https://www.dhs.gov/ntas/advisory/national-terrorism-advisory-system-bulletin-august-13-2021 Friday afternoon news cycle release… I think they missed ‘journalists’ as potential targets…lol… But they certainly look to be setting up a false flag to justify a big lockdown/crackdown… since the covid crap… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 months ago

Update on my son / opinions please? It’s been very civilised and we’ve been meeting every 3 – 4 weeks for dinner and talking a lot at those meetings but not in between. I’m moving and as @ HABD pointed out, my son bit on this. Anyway I have leased my new place and it is more or less the same distance from his (mother’s) place that my place is now. It’s a smart 2 bed apartment. It’s also 6 minutes walk to the train line that gets you to central London in 25minutes, and in the other direction the… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago

HABD

Pretty eerie. BTW did you see Vox was deplatformed last week? He’s back up on his own platform.

Palma

I’d just fit things out as you are, sounds awesome. Then have him over and tell him he can use whenever, give him the codes and ask I he wants anything in stock. Less pressure.fake@

NNN1
NNN1
2 months ago

This depends on the character of your son and (obv) on how much you two talk about women and about picking them up. See, my father (as much I’ve learned from him in leading a successfull life and getting shit together) never talked about women and sex with me in the last five years. In such a situation it would be completly out of frame to do so. On the other hand my mother planned such a “child privacy sphere” in my room nine years ago when we reconstructed our home and built my room (50 sqm) here under the… Read more »

liz
liz
2 months ago

Update on my son / opinions please? I have grown sons, so I’ll bite (even though you probably don’t want my opinion)…. This has nothing to do with sex, just family relationships. I’ll give an example. Mike has been trying to find something he and the boys can do together. They hike and all that of course. At the end of the month he and our second son are going sky diving. It’s all good. But he wanted to get into their gaming world. There is a game they like to play, and Mike was kind of hurt they were… Read more »

stuffinbox
2 months ago

Palma, You are a cool cabeza.

2c Say “Here are your keys , you are welcome any time” here is the do not disturb sign I will hang up when I have a woman over, I expect you to do the same.”

HABD, Wild, drove past an IV hydration facility yesterday, shook my head and drank a hit of ice water.LOL
I thought the oxygen bars were cray.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
2 months ago

Stuffinbox HABD, Wild, drove past an IV hydration facility yesterday, shook my head and drank a hit of ice water.LOL I thought the oxygen bars were cray. My first thought was: “why is he trolling?”. Then I did a quick search just to check. This is one of the hits. I like the 1970’s SciFi egg-chairs they put suckers clients into. https://ivloungewinterpark.com/ At The IV Lounge, our skilled and medically licensed staff will give you a full evaluation prior to your IV infusion. Our drips are specifically formulated with rich vitamins, minerals, antioxidants, and amino acids which will dramatically increase… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
2 months ago

@Sentient HABD Pretty eerie. BTW did you see Vox was deplatformed last week? He’s back up on his own platform. ya, i read about that…lol… sh*t’s heating up everywhere…lol… he was ready for it though…lol… he didn’t even miss a beat… the Deep State Players ™ really are panicking…lol… they’ve lost control of the narrative… completely… political/economic/medical/social/etc… really everything…lol average normies are waking up… and not in a ‘woke’ way…lol… the iron fist of the commies/globalist elites is squeezing tighter (or at least trying…lol)… but the sand is just running through their fingers faster…lol… @stuffinbox HABD, Wild, drove past an… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
2 months ago

@PalmaSailor My question is whether I should involve him in this and just ask him what he wants and say what the purpose of it is, or should I just fit it out and say it’s there if he wants to use it, give him the keys and the access codes he needs? you should play to win… you want him to move in, right?…lol fit it out for THAT, but don’t bring it up… then let him go to school the hard way… until it becomes sooo much of a hassle that HE makes the choice HIS idea… and… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
2 months ago

@Centuries i had a big comment for you but it was eaten by the interwebs…lol basically, it just reinforced that you are getting great advice… no matter what your current situ is, your play for CC is the same… go dark for a couple months… game/bang other girls… then ping her for a meet up with your logistics sorted and game through to a bang… even IF you were AF for her, going dark won’t hurt you… and the time gap is needed to reset your BB/orbiter status… the thing that you seem to be having trouble with the most… Read more »

IRL
IRL
2 months ago

@NNN1 I’m going to do that, might just take her on the patio with a glass of (maybe sparkling) wine and see what happens. Nice. Good to see your progress. I did not follow her around, but let her leave the set or left it myself, when other people chat me up, as many guys (and girls) in my semester know me (although by far I don’t know all of them lol) – might give me some social proof, but I don’t know. Good. On the events with lots of people. Do you know the short set method? https://www.reddit.com/r/PUApolyamory/comments/1x2amn/pua_masf_repost_craigs_short_set_method_clubsbars/ How… Read more »

IRL
IRL
2 months ago

@Centuries I was doing some physical work and listening to my audio list in the background. And at some point Tim Ferris’s 4 Hour Week popped up. I often zone out and miss a lot of what’s being said in longer pieces like that, but he got my attention with this: COMFORT CHALLENGE The most important actions are never comfortable. Fortunately, it is possible to condition yourself to discomfort and overcome it. I’ve trained myself to propose solutions instead of ask for them, to elicit desired responses instead of react, and to be assertive without burning bridges. To have an… Read more »

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
2 months ago

Hahaha@ Palma’s “Captain Spock”. Only thing I will add to Palma’s last post to Centuries about the girl asking to clear the air and meet up to reiterate she just wants to be friends etc: This has nothing to do with giving herself proximity or having any latent interest in Centuries that can be kindled from an ember to a flame. That would be true if a girl was doing that to Palma – because we know Palma is not the kind of man who gets friend zoned. So of course Palma assumes she is interested (either openly, or at… Read more »

IRL
IRL
2 months ago

*The 4-Hour Workweek

IRL
IRL
2 months ago

@OTP LOL@ “late night DJ voice” – someone has thoroughly internalized Chris Voss. I’m a big fan of the book now. Ends with a great chapter (took me a while to google a digital version; emphasis mine): OVERCOMING FEAR AND LEARNING TO GET WHAT YOU WANT OUT OF LIFE People generally fear conflict, so they avoid useful arguments out of fear that the tone will escalate into personal attacks they cannot handle. People in close relationships often avoid making their own interests known and instead compromise across the board to avoid being perceived as greedy or self-interested. They fold, they… Read more »

Centuries
Centuries
2 months ago

@IRL “If you’re in a relationship, sign up to (or pretend to) gather information for Greenpeace. Just toss the numbers if you get them.”

Just toss the numbers – that’s friggin hilarious

Centuries
Centuries
2 months ago

OTP “But Centuries is not Palma – we know from the history that he is a confirmed beta orbiter who the girl has put firmly into the Friend Zone, and we know she feels zero sexual threat from him. So no, there is no latent interest in her behaviour.” So after my saying we can’t be friends – it appears over the weekend CC insisted on drinks and her and I ended up naked in the back seat of CC’s car……. I’m apparently somewhat dazed and confused and have an immediate need to re-read MM and heartiste Am I missing… Read more »

Centuries
Centuries
2 months ago

@PalmaSailor “I then walked away and went out and worked out with some semi-pro athletes, and kept up for awhile and had a blast. I’ll see how it goes.

Very good. Can you hang out with them socially?”

Possibly but I will need to re-establish competence and acceptance.

Way back in the early 90’s I was banging the girlfriend of one of the pro’s ex’s so there is that.

Centuries
Centuries
2 months ago

@PalmaSailor

I would set up your spare room the way you want. I would keep it casual regarding you son and the spare room. make him aware of it and offer it as an option for him but no direct implications. When I discuss CC with my older son he is fine but he is not very comfortable at all with physical proximity when I discuss meetups with CC. For instance after what happened this weekend he wouldn’t get in the car until I told him we hadn’t been in my car.

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
2 months ago

Hahaha after my assertion that Centuries has been friend zoned, this happens!

Good work dude.

Maybe Palmas original analysis about latent interest and proximity was correct after all.

How did it happen? Tell us

having a bad day
having a bad day
2 months ago

@Centuries So after my saying we can’t be friends – it appears over the weekend CC insisted on drinks and her and I ended up naked in the back seat of CC’s car……. props!!!!… how’s it feel to be a AF stud?…lol now, game a couple more girls at the same time… to the same result… I’m apparently somewhat dazed and confused and have an immediate need to re-read MM and heartiste good!… you are wanting to solidify your new RP gains/insight… that ‘dazed and confused’ is the FI pushing on you to try to get you back on the… Read more »

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
2 months ago

On another note, I’m copying the below from another anonymous forum where I read it. Obviously, it’s an anon on the Internet so take with a grain (or spoonful) of salt as to accuracy and likelihood of hyperbole and exaggeration, but if even a big chunk of this is true, what on earth is happening in France/Europe? It sounds like they’re about 5 minutes away from pinning yellow stars on the unvaccinated and stoning them for being unclean or something: “Here in France it has gone to the extreme with the “Health” Pass. Last week on the 21st ALL restaurants,… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
2 months ago

@OTP how’s that confirmation bias treatin’ ya?…lol THAT’s^^^ what it looks like when those attack vectors (food and population density) are in motion… and carrying that attack… and france is just a little ahead of the US… nyc is trying to keep up though…lol historically, commies have ALWAYS planned a ‘starvation’ phase into their take-overs… the current plan is for world-wide starvation this fall/winter/spring… it’s gonna be rough… probably rougher than afghanistan is right now… unfortunately… super drought in the west… killing off wheat/corn/bean yields… (not to mention almonds… and other central valley crops)… with flooding other places… like jyna…… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 months ago

Catching up – and loads of points. @Sentient I was still struggling with the leader of men / pre selection thing because I had assumed that cavemen were loners. So there was no tribe and no men to lead. So I had two attraction triggers that led to the others. I was given an opinion on that today. It would take a tribe to bring down a wildebeest. One man couldn’t do it. They were in tribes back to year dot. But I still err towards protection and food as the two primary. Becoming a leader of men, successful risk… Read more »

IRL
IRL
2 months ago

@Palma Who knows it could be debated for hours. Ok then… lol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranthropus#Social_structure Paranthropus had pronounced sexual dimorphism, with males notably larger than females, which is commonly correlated with a male-dominated polygamous society. P. robustus may have had a harem society similar to modern forest-dwelling silverback gorillas, where one male has exclusive breeding rights to a group of females, as male-female size disparity is comparable to gorillas (based on facial dimensions), and younger males were less robust than older males (delayed maturity is also exhibited in gorillas).[73] However, if P. robustus preferred a savanna habitat, a multi-male society would have… Read more »

IRL
IRL
2 months ago

@Centuries

Great points from @Palma.

With CC, you’ve been sending mixed signals (even got us confused… lol), that’s why it took so long. You’re doing something right. You’re also made it more difficult than it needed to be. Good push in the right direction.

This is only the beginning, keep them coming… lol

@Palma

How is that not a powerful line? Lol

NNN1
NNN1
2 months ago

@habd and @OTP France is definitely seeing a big wave of striking people now – yet it’s necessary to take into consideration that striking is nothing special for French, they’re like striking several weeks a year for nearly any reason. Compared to the gilet jaunes this is no ‘biggest uprise in history’ lol – although more than nothing of course. So maybe it’s not really a communist takeover… Global grain harvest was prognosed to be record-high this year according to USDA, although grain quality is sub-optimal due to imperfect weather – which worldwide high yields might well compensate. Having said… Read more »

stuffinbox
2 months ago

NN1 First off Props on your progress The west or modern world as a whole is living on borrowed funds. This isn’t really a strike as much as a big game of chicken where they play for keeps. One side says you have to get raped by Needle dick the bug fucker or die cuz we can live without you and the other side says we can live without you. Not so much commie as top down total control. My guess is 80% + will opt for the jab and free handouts in the end, there may be a surplus… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
2 months ago

@Stuff In Box I’m not sure, but here in university they said EU grain depots (so not just state owned but primarily private owned) is enough up to end of ’22. On the mills I’m not sure, probably enough in stock for the next month and as French workers aren’t too weallthy on average they will have started working by then again. French bakeries (as final part in the chain) could stop in theory – yet as they are micro-businesses they won’t stay through that without income. So they all could in theory stop food production but they won’t be… Read more »

stuffinbox
2 months ago

NN1,

Over the years I’ve purchased multiple acres of open rangeland in a multi section residential subdivision. Cattle, deer, elk, antelope, bear, turkey, ptarmigan etc.. I’ve gardened my whole life and harvest my own heat fuel.

My theory is the independent folk are the most productive and the least likely to submit to needle dick , leaving the snitchy dependent types to fight over the scraps in the endgame.
So yep there are lots of crops and meat animals, but no you don’t really need $ to get them as much as you need skills.

having a bad day
having a bad day
2 months ago

@NNN1 @habd and @OTP France is definitely seeing a big wave of striking people now – yet it’s necessary to take into consideration that striking is nothing special for French, they’re like striking several weeks a year for nearly any reason. Compared to the gilet jaunes this is no ‘biggest uprise in history’ lol – although more than nothing of course. don’t forget the stakes involved here… ‘forced jab’ is the equivalent of the state owning your body… for whatever purpose… get the jab ‘for the greater good’, right?… what happens if the ‘state’ can no longer ‘feed’ everybody (whether… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
2 months ago

one more thing about this whole ‘get everybody jabbed’ push that seems to get lost in translation is the stakes for the big pharma companies… if they don’t get 90+% jabbed with at least one serving, they are at risk for having to be actually liable for ALL of the bad medical outcomes for everybody who took (or was forced to take) the jab… if there is over say 20% of non-jabbed, those folks constitute a big enough control group that any statistical difference in outcomes will be provable… and if there is continuing negative outcomes in the jabbed group,… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
2 months ago

most people will go ‘that will NEVER happen…’…lol… just like the nazis never would put people into prison camps… or the US would never put japanese into prison camps either…lol… those people just can’t get there heads around that much evil… but it’s actually out there in play I think the worst part of it is most people (so apart from the imprisoned) didn’t really see a problem in that practice. Many – I don’t know how it was in the US – probably hoped to benefit from that. Like in Sowjet countries (like nowadays Poland) most benefitted (or at… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
2 months ago

@NNN1 “most people will go ‘that will NEVER happen…’…lol… just like the nazis never would put people into prison camps… or the US would never put japanese into prison camps either…lol… those people just can’t get there heads around that much evil… but it’s actually out there in play” I think the worst part of it is most people (so apart from the imprisoned) didn’t really see a problem in that practice. Many – I don’t know how it was in the US – probably hoped to benefit from that. exactly… over here we call that virtue signaling…lol… although, i… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 months ago

This has sprung back into life after 5 months.

Spoke to her on the phone and she couldn’t stop talking about herself.

Drinks tomorrow night!

https://imgur.com/a/77eqh9y

https://imgur.com/a/ktW3qX7

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
2 months ago

Good luck Palma! It sounds like you just need to let her keep talking while you move her towards the bedroom.. HABD – while I generally agree with you about the trends in motion and the incentives in play for various parties (like the pharma companies being incentivized to get everyone jabbed to avoid having any control groups – in fact I think I read that the control groups for the super-brief clinical trials last year were all jabbed very quickly once approvals were given), I think the system has enough resilience and homeostasis to avoid some of the more… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 months ago

@OTP

Good luck Palma! It sounds like you just need to let her keep talking while you move her towards the bedroom..

She’s going to help move the bedroom by the looks of things 😂

https://imgur.com/a/TDQAgvK

We’ll see.

having a bad day
having a bad day
2 months ago

@OTP HABD – while I generally agree with you about the trends in motion and the incentives in play for various parties (like the pharma companies being incentivized to get everyone jabbed to avoid having any control groups – in fact I think I read that the control groups for the super-brief clinical trials last year were all jabbed very quickly once approvals were given), aaand why do think they might have done this?…lol… it’s like the whole of society in one small example… getting rid of that ‘control group’…lol… but that just shows that the big pharma companies had… Read more »

IRL
IRL
2 months ago

@HABD This the apocalypse you speaketh of? https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/19/onlyfans-bans-explicit-content/ @OTP I’d prefer to take no vaccine at all, but if it becomes necessary, I’ll likely go for this one (not sure when it will get approved and be available though). If you don’t want to get vaxxed, don’t get vaxxed. You want to, then do it for the right reasons. On that post about France from some doomposting echo chamber. You know that a quick google search shows you don’t need the vaxx or vaxx passport there, right? When entering some places, you may be asked to show proof you’re not… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
2 months ago

Onlyfans decides to cut explicit content by 1 October. Should be interesting to see what the income stream looks like after that.

https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/19/onlyfans-bans-explicit-content/https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/19/onlyfans-bans-explicit-content/

NNN1
NNN1
2 months ago

@habd AND that jyna is probably going to take taiwan… Very unlikely, as it bears the certain risk of a new world war. For China it’ll be way easier to build own chip fabs and after a few years buy TSMC and Foxcon. Controll doesn’t need military action. Also building a chip fab is neither cheap nor fast, yet the technology is in large parts in western hand. If you’re about vaccines the last product I’d buy was a French one as their state agencies are notoriously known for concealing every detail that lets France (and French businesses) appear imperfect.… Read more »

stuffinbox
2 months ago

I’m in HABD’s camp on this red pill practical perspective, having lived through and had mentors that survived most of this history. It isn’t all doom and gloom just a reminder to stay righteous. We can learn from those more experienced or hope to survive our own research. I tell my children and grandchildren to have a plan and some goals or they will be living and working toward some body else’s agenda. Find what you have a passion for , have a dream or live in some other nightmare. Sharing your dream and plan favorably is charisma.

having a bad day
having a bad day
2 months ago

@IRL @HABD This the apocalypse you speaketh of? https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/19/onlyfans-bans-explicit-content/ These changes are to comply with the requests of our banking partners and payout providers. … At the organizational level, however, the companies may find it difficult to scale due to the trepidation of investors and banks, both of which tend to avoid the industry in general as a “vice,” much the way cannabis and sex toy startups have faced challenges. Pushback from financial backers and payment processors can effectively sink an entire business model. OnlyFans in this case says openly that it is abandoning adult content due to exactly this… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
2 months ago

@NNN1 @habd “AND that jyna is probably going to take taiwan…” Very unlikely, as it bears the certain risk of a new world war. you state this like that’s not the overall goal for jyna…lol… other countries are just getting a clue to this…lol jyna has been in a world war with everybody else for a looong time… but it’s not like WW2 with tanks and landing craft rolling onto the beaches…lol… it’s ‘hybrid war’ (‘total war’ per the jynese generals…)… they are trying to win without firing a shot… buuut, they are perfectly willing and able to start shooting… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 months ago

The problem with payment processing on porn is that so much of it goes wrong. About a decade ago I looked at porn phone lines on premium rate. So the telecoms provider bills the customer on their phone bill at the telecom providers credit risk and they paid out. Bc.. muh.. REGULATIONS.. the customer could only be billed a maximum of £1.50 a minute including VAT (sales tax of 20%) so you got a nett £1.30 a minute which at first sight looks like a healthy £80 an hour for an unskilled girl to talk wank to a loser. So… Read more »

IRL
IRL
2 months ago

@stuffinbox It isn’t all doom and gloom just a reminder to stay righteous. We can learn from those more experienced or hope to survive our own research. I tell my children and grandchildren to have a plan and some goals or they will be living and working toward some body else’s agenda. Find what you have a passion for , have a dream or live in some other nightmare. Sharing your dream and plan favorably is charisma. I like that, +1. (damn echo chambers) @HABD @AR but that^^^ will likely kill off $1B/year worth of ‘small businesses’ that flourish under… Read more »

IRL
IRL
2 months ago

@Palma
So my point here is that these only fans subscribers have a huge pre nut incentive to pay whatever, but then it becomes an enormous pain in the arse holding the payments in.

I’m sure it holds true even today. It’s interesting how the problem has been (partially) addressed in the modern day by turning it into an LDR/LTR/community offering and thus increasing the customer lifetime value.

A video reminder:

(side note: disappointed Charisma on Command boys completely misrepresented and disregarded Rollo’s work when they met… smh)

IRL
IRL
2 months ago

@NNN1 How many of those predictions did come true proofable? HABD is directionally correct about the male/female nature and socio-geopolitical scene. Questioning the fabric of the narrative in front of you is always a good a thing (including mine, HABD’s and your own). But specific logical connections between data points are temporary and just part of the spinning Rolodex to figure out what’s up. And none of us knows the truth or has access to hidden variables. This is a game of guessing, testing and discarding. HABD gives each Rolodex card the right to exist in both false/true state at… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
2 months ago

@IRL I’ve been travelling across Europe, both last year and this year. Most people live normal lives and do what they’d always do +/- adjustments to what’s in front of them. Some carry a mask in their pocket and put it on when they’d like to avoid confrontations because a sign says to do so. Some ignore it and are hardly ever bothered by others. that’s been pretty much my experience when out and about… the only exception i’ve had is in med service settings… those folks get a dictator complex…lol It’s Milgram experiment playing out in various forms after… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
2 months ago

IRL You can actually achieve and get away with a lot if you know how to talk to people. Yeah, it’s like some kind of game or GAME or something I heard about one time. lol On another site some libertarian dude got all worked up over a temp measurement in another state at a convenience store and had to blog about how he was right and all these other people were wrong and eventually he showed them by going to a different store. For sure he demonstrated to a few store employees what a dork he was. Maybe they’ll… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 months ago

Field report Have a look at the following tinder interaction with a 23 yo Lithuanian https://imgur.com/a/QPipuB3 Started 5 days ago and I finished it 5 days ago after not answering any of her questions and she re started it yesterday after 5 days. Bear in mind she will be being literally mobbed with probably hundreds of emails telling her how HOT! she looks. And I won’t answer any of her questions so she’s juuuust on the hook but wriggling like fuck and could easily be lost with one beta move. The hamster is pushing hard to find out my university,… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
2 months ago

@PalmaSailor I think you’re still doing great… props! on not getting oneitis for the RD… “Re reading it I think I slid into dog logic a bit and probably didn’t sexualise enough. I cut it short again last night.” probably true…lol… but tooo late now…lol… I don’t think it hurt you though… “She can have the gift of my absence for a few days and then I might try to ignite her a bit. At 23 she’s in the target range.” mistake her for 29… lol… and tell her she’s interesting but a lot older than you usually consider…lol you… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
1 month ago

Just from my perspective: or you COULD bait her with your yacht…lol… THAT could give you some great! game practice…lol That will get her, but she probably thinks about you every second night – after she browsed tinder for hours and saw nothing with your emotional impact. + You’re a giant mystery for her, as long as her feelz of attraction rise faster than her fear for that huge strange dude not answering anything it’ll be great, And she’s probably hunting for that seriously older dude right now, rich and experienced – providing security and the possibility for a visa… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@HABD @PalmaSailor I think you’re still doing great… props! on not getting oneitis for the RD… So serious question – where is the line between oneitis and making a decision that you’d actually like to have this woman in your space. And yes. On a permanent basis. But no, not marriage. And yes, when you look at it probably there are other women out there who offer the same qualities, but practically speaking it’s gojng to take a long time to find one. – And I’m saying that as someone with an N of over 200. I’ve dumped all except… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
1 month ago

@Palma That was prob just a yuge shit test when her hamster realised he wasn’t the real deal. I actually wondered how he got even that far, but he probably never stopped talking and she and her friend talked about meeting up for dinner – where I think he invited himself in, so that might have been the way. Yeah dangerous. And I know it’s not what you meant but Symbolising the ultimate experienced BB is Not a place you want to be, and definitely not at my age I think having your shit together is not really BB, I… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
1 month ago

@PalmaSailor @HABD “@PalmaSailor I think you’re still doing great… props! on not getting oneitis for the RD…” So serious question – where is the line between oneitis and making a decision that you’d actually like to have this woman in your space. And yes. On a permanent basis. But no, not marriage. And yes, when you look at it probably there are other women out there who offer the same qualities, but practically speaking it’s gojng to take a long time to find one. – And I’m saying that as someone with an N of over 200. I’ve dumped all… Read more »

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
1 month ago

@Palma: “or you COULD bait her with your yacht…lol… THAT could give you some great! game practice…lol Honestly that ^^ would be sooooo easy. But I’ve reached the stage with desire sex, where I wouldn’t even be able to get wood if it wasn’t. Even the knowledge that I “landed” her with BB game fucks it up for me. I have to get it out the gate with AF game or I’m fucked now.” This is more complex – not as black and white as this. Back when I used to do online dating on sugar daddy sites, I used… Read more »

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
1 month ago

One other thing – in terms of maximizing results on the sugar sites (same principle would apply on Tinder I suspect with younger girls, just less blatant), the trick was to straddle the middle ground. If you go full simp/sugar daddy, then sure you’ll get plenty of attention and dates as a provider, but for obvious reasons that is not what you are looking for. But I think you’re actually going too far in the opposite direction, at least online. It’s not such a big issue in person but online it could be. When I went hard in the opposite… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@HABD remember a girl’s default algo is to look at every dude as BB (but to test for AF)… Well.. are you sure? Across ALL the age groups? I suppose my attitude to this and what they are filtering for has been biased by exposure. There have been a few notable instances that stand out. At one point in a former life I had three women in their mid 20’s running a business comprising of 40 other people that needed controlling. I was not on site. You needed three women, not two, because women follow the rooles (do as they’re… Read more »

Warlockk
Warlockk
1 month ago

@palma sailor’s friend is a liar methinks

This girl for example isn’t Persian and hasn’t been in England recently 😆 It’s easily googleable:

https://ibb.co/1r0dJMx
https://ibb.co/C7mSCvV
https://ibb.co/2j8LP2n

Or he’s banging girls that use stolen pics

warlockk
warlockk
1 month ago

@centuries

“So after my saying we can’t be friends – it appears over the weekend CC insisted on drinks and her and I ended up naked in the back seat of CC’s car……”

This bit is quite unbelievable as well bc @Centuries posted it right after he was called a confirmed beta orbiter. And no detailed FR followed – he just changed the subject. Wtf

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
1 month ago

Palma Will post in more detail later (probably only next week when I am next in the office), but two quick points: -I think there is an element of talking past each other a bit in connection with terminology here – I don’t think we really disagree much. -I think if you rephrase what HABD said into something like “Women automatically categorise all men as betas, and wait to be proven wrong if they demonstrate they are alpha” that makes the point a bit clearer, because there is no connection with what they are looking for – you are right,… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
1 month ago

@PalmaSailor @HABD “remember a girl’s default algo is to look at every dude as BB (but to test for AF)…” Well.. are you sure? Across ALL the age groups? ya…lol… but it’s bell curve distro for cohort… and shifting ‘neediness’ per girl’s age (and circumstance)… just like @Rollo noted…lol I suppose my attitude to this and what they are filtering for has been biased by exposure. AND the FI…lol… don’t forget that social conditioning sh*t…lol There have been a few notable instances that stand out. At one point in a former life I had three women in their mid 20’s… Read more »

anon
anon
1 month ago

OldTymePoster
One was 20. The other was early 40s. Exactly the same dynamic (both single mothers incidentally, trying to tell me they needed the money for their kid).

Seems clear enough. Since both were SB’s they’d probably run that riff on multiple men; once paid off, they really lost interest in the Beta.

When they tried to slot you into BB and you refused, the switches in their head flipped to “Alpha!” and the rest just rolled downhill.

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
1 month ago

@Anon – yes, exactly. That was the mechanic in play. It didn’t always work – I usually weeded out the outright gold diggers before getting the date stage (the odd one sometimes slipped through and I had a horrible date with no lay) but I had a fair few who basically ended up sleeping with me because I was there and it was convenient and sure they enjoyed it (and so did I), but it was not real desire sex (this was not correlated to age btw). The true desire sex ones were (of course) the best. Especially those two… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

Ugh poasted in the wrong place so tell poasted here. @HABD “bc it really shouldn’t matter HOW you get into the interaction with the girl…” Muh. I have absolutely no idea how many I’ve missed out on bc I’ve killed off anything remotely provider hunting rather than playing the game. When I first separated ten years ago I was unwittingly playing the game (blue pill) and was laying 2-3 every week from OLD/other. Ok so I’ll poast pictures of a yacht. Lol. Not mine though, mine is a very modest beast and they might as well fantasise in style lol…… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@warlokk

@Centuries posted it right after he was called a confirmed beta orbiter. And no detailed FR followed – he just changed the subject. Wtf

Easy. @Centuries is not a beta. He just slipped up through a combination of a long time in a marriage and the subject being a much younger woman.

There was more going in than being reported.

Warlockk
Warlockk
1 month ago

@Palma

„They are the pictures from actual girls profiles.”

Right so what about the fake pic I spotted yesterday then?

„He’s said he has had to remove tinder from his phone bc it’s blowing up too hard / addictive and he’s not getting anything else done lol..”

Or maybe he just wasn’t getting any matches being mid 60’s lol

„Easy. @Centuries is not a beta. He just slipped up through a combination of a long time in a marriage and the subject being a much younger woman. There was more going in than being reported“

How do you know?

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@warlockk

Ouch… why do you care?

„They are the pictures from actual girls profiles.”

Yes

Right so what about the fake pic I spotted yesterday then?

Yes. But it came from the profile. See above.

Or maybe he just wasn’t getting any matches being mid 60’s lol

If you want to believe that it’s up to you.

How do you know?

@Centuries has got an authenticity about him that can be felt through the words. I might be wrong but that’s the feeling I get.

Same feeling I get that you’re not getting laid and butthurt about it.

Centuries
Centuries
1 month ago

@warlockk

you may be trolling but regardless I have no vested interested in posing – that is for losers.

Wife went through massive dread event following the realization I had been in the back seat with CC, she found out everything. I was drifting back to blue pill shit with CC so I kicked her to the curb politely. Wife stopped eating for 1 week lost weight and started banging me almost daily. CC came at me several times and wants to start FB banging – I said no – now she is coming at me with hard regrets.

Warlockk
Warlockk
1 month ago

@Centuries
Thanks for the reply. I wasn’t trolling.

How old are you if you don’t mind me asking? And what made you say no to CC?

Centuries
Centuries
1 month ago

I am in my late 50’s – I said no because blue pill shit is no way to go through life and I was clearly not fully ready to manifest a red pill relationship with her – it has the potential to destroy oneself – I also backed off to minimize the impact on my woman of many years. Girls will come and girls will go – CC is going nowhere and if she does all the power to her

IRL
IRL
1 month ago

The power of “No”… lol This will be a great reference experience for both CC and you @Centuries. BTW are you going through a divorce or trying to turn it around? Wife stopped eating for 1 week lost weight and started banging me almost daily. Good. Keep doing what you’re doing, it’s working. Just remember it’s a mechanism to keep the status quo and stop any transformation you might be going through. FI vs MI. It’s only the beginning of establishing who’s frame this will be in. This is a marathon not a sprint. One month for each year of… Read more »

Centuries
Centuries
1 month ago

@IRL “BTW are you going through a divorce or trying to turn it around?”

either way works – it has been on the table for awhile – time will tell – the recent dread event is telling – I’ll give it time – I got other things going on so no rush

Lumen
Lumen
1 month ago

Good evening, I just wanted to report that I finally completed the 400 approaches challenge today (although about 5 months late). The original challenge stated that I was to complete the 400 as quickly as possible, and that it could be reasonable done in a weekend. However in my case, I found that it was much tougher than I anticipated it would be. The first weekend I went out and attempted the approaches was rough, and I would consider only 40 out of the 80 approaches I did to be “good”. I decided that at this rate, one weekend was… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@Lumen

Well done!

so if you guys feel that I didn’t complete it properly

It’s not my challenge, but as far as I am concerned you have completed it properly.

I totally understand and will start over to get it done faster if you feel it’s necessary

Time to move on to the next stage, DHVing, spotting the IOI’s and escalating to the bang.

What happened to the phone numbers you got?

having a bad day
having a bad day
1 month ago

@Lumen Good evening, I just wanted to report that I finally completed the 400 approaches challenge today (although about 5 months late). props!!!… that sh*t ain’t easy…lol The biggest takeaway I got from this challenge was that approaching beautiful women is literally as easy as just walking up to them and saying something. Simple as that. And yet something that simple was something I struggled to do my whole life, until now. I’m not gonna lie, my only regret was that I didn’t finish the challenge sooner, if only to try out some new openers. I know the spirit of… Read more »

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
1 month ago

@Lumen Great work – I think you’ve not only done it properly, you’ve smashed it out of the park. The 400 Approach Challenge was HABD’s idea, and I was the first person to complete it (several years ago). It’s so rare for men to actually go out and DO it, that you are only the second, so props on that. I did the whole thing in about 5 consecutive days – as you found out, the first few are the hardest by far, especially the “warmup” phase. From memory I think I did about 150 on the last day, and… Read more »

Warlockk
Warlockk
1 month ago

@lumen

What was the whole point of making 400 approaches if you didn’t get laid?

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
1 month ago

@Warlockk

That is like asking a tennis player what the point of practicing his serve for a week is, if he doesn’t actually win any matches that week.

He does it for the same reason Lumen did his challenge – to work on a specific sticking point and develop a particular subset of the overall Game skills he needs to seduce women. He won’t do this forever, he can move on now to closing, but skillsets are best learned by breaking them down into manageable chunks and then integrating them.

Lumen
Lumen
1 month ago

@PalmaSailor It’s not my challenge, but as far as I am concerned you have completed it properly. Thanks dude, feels good to get it done. As far as the numbers I got, I gave a few of them a shot, but they didn’t go anywhere. I’ll chalk those up to inexperience and a need to work on my text + phone game. I also just straight up tossed some numbers out with the logic of “If I got these that easy, I can get more just as easily lol.” In hindsight, if I get a number, just give it a… Read more »

Lumen
Lumen
1 month ago

And I butchered my comment. Fuckin’ A lmao.

If-I-Fell
If-I-Fell
1 month ago

I caught up with 3 weeks of comments. Discussions go back and forth between the apocalypse and obtaining alpha fucks sex. In that short time, it is disconcerting to see how things have gotten worse. It seems that only HABD has a plan with survival skills, land, fuel, weapons and food. Others, like me, are depending on their neighbors, the law and peaceful non-compliance. I just had a major wake-up call. A family member was just mandated to take the death-shot. I offered to pay all costs associated with moving to a state that still respects the rights of citizens… Read more »

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
1 month ago

@Lumen – keep posting field reports here – it’s a good way to keep yourself accountable to taking action AND the advice and feedback you get is second to none. No such thing as “that interaction was too small to report” – there’s something to learn and improve every time – if you’ve read YaReally and his breakdowns, you know exactly what I mean. @If-I-Fell – If I may suggest – setting aside the question of whether an apocalypse type situation will actually happen or not, if you are preparing for one – I would strongly advise investing in skills… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
1 month ago

@If-I-Fell I caught up with 3 weeks of comments. Discussions go back and forth between the apocalypse and obtaining alpha fucks sex. In that short time, it is disconcerting to see how things have gotten worse. ya… sh*t keeps getting more real every day…lol… the attack vectors are still food and pop density… that hasn’t changed… sooo, we’ve got that going for us!… which is nice!… lol… It seems that only HABD has a plan with survival skills, land, fuel, weapons and food. ya, this seems to be pretty rare in my real life world too…lol… my paranoia is finally… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
1 month ago

@OTP @If-I-Fell – If I may suggest – setting aside the question of whether an apocalypse type situation will actually happen or not, if you are preparing for one – I would strongly advise investing in skills and connections and allies in the local community (aka “friends”), much more than any kind of material possessions (including guns) which can be taken from you. true… and friends and allies in the local community are probably more important than some newly acquired ‘half-skillz’… The skills don’t have to be really obvious (like being a doctor or something) – true… but stopping bleeding… Read more »

stuffinbox
1 month ago

Survival skills can take years to hone. This guy has some good tools & tricks he has mastered.

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

If

You can get a Glock 17 for $500 and a Mossberg 88 for $200, or a Mossberg 590 for $4-500.

Start.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
1 month ago

Lumen
I also just straight up tossed some numbers out with the logic of “If I got these that easy, I can get more just as easily lol.”

Excellent example of abundance mentality inside your head, where it always starts.

having a bad day
having a bad day
1 month ago

@stuffinbox Survival skills can take years to hone. This guy has some good tools & tricks he has mastered. https://youtu.be/U54HRmglYEA thanks… i learned some new sh*t!!!…lol… i can hear those karens going “OMG!!!11… he’s not wearing a MASK!!!111…” lol… that dude has it dialed in!… that cart is just a smaller version of the old shepard wagons sized to be pulled by a ram instead of a horse/mule… a nice simplification of the whole system… and he really didn’t seem to have that many sheep to wrangle, so his system inputs were very manageable… with all that probiotics/natural foods he… Read more »

stuffinbox
1 month ago

HABD,

That guy is in the top 2% of homeless people. He could do some guerilla gardening to solve his potato problem. I like his home made felt cooler.

Is it just me or did he spike attraction in Kirsten?

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@Stuffinbox

Is it just me or did he spike attraction in Kirsten?

You’re right, he did.

There was a lot in play there that she won’t be getting from any men that are on the grid.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s begetting quite a lot of action.

IAS
IAS
1 month ago

N=7 LR I’ve been on a (not Tinder) app that Palma had suggested a while ago. It has been mostly a waste of time where I live, but it worked more or less to get some matches when I was travelling and I am still using it. So I’m travelling a bit, and without my lovely N=3, I’m looking at the app every day to see if I can scratch the itch. So I see this profile. 41. Usually I don’t “like” women over 40 but this one (41 according to the info she has there) has a nice body,… Read more »

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