Field Reports

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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 months ago

@Sentient Out the gate as I’m in the restaurant waiting for a friend but here are some to be getting on with, now @NNN1 has to find MOAR!! Actually I was thinking of grabbing you by the hair throwing you around the bedroom and banging you til you can’t walk I never plan on a Friday I lost a leg in the war and can’t walk, so I hop. I would walk but I keep tripping over my cock so these days I prefer to pole vault I was thinking of having a unicycle race Pizza is ghey Great idea… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 months ago

@Sentient May be speeding up, may be slowing down… Slower is often faster. You might have to really slow it down but only after your sexualisation intentions are known. In the above example I had attempted the make out and had a kick back. I was sat at one end of that sofa and she was at the other – no bodily contact for about an hour and I went for the second make out when she was (had) calming / calmed down. ** which you know bc you poasted the mystery clip of “the other end of the sofa… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
1 month ago

@HABD Thanks for the breakdown. You’re right with the eye-contact lol. Since Palma’s book and Sentient’s breakdown I practice it when talking every time (as long as I remember to lol). Getting better, but it takes time of course. @Palma @Sentient On: “Do you feel like going for a walk in the park? We could go grab a pizza or so” Yeah, the hedges definitely are the best place to apply chloroform. Nah, the last brunette I ate pizza with smelled like garlic. You won’t be able to walk afterwards anyway. Walks are for old geezers I’m no spaghetti, fuck… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@NNN1 Firstly bearing this in mind you’re doing very well: This was my first ‘date’ this year and maybe 6. or 10. total – so, yeah lol.
Probably with more practice this will work better. I didn’t actually realise that ^^ so I’ve spent a long time reading your FR, and @HABD’s reply, and he’s covered all the technical stuff I can see. On the lateness / missing the train, I’d read it differently -> you were plan B bc she was blown out by Chad. I might be right or wrong on that but anyway she was still DTF, and… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
1 month ago

@Palma At the moment there are no new opportunities along the way. I could chat up one (the Italian) on one of her Insta-Stories. She posts some sporty activities every Sunday – as reliable as a clockwork. So a month ago I replied to one on DM and that was somehow nice and I could reactivate that again. Actually I’m not sure if this was a good idea but right now it is one of the best options available. Fun fact: I did pizza in a large woodfired oven with three guys and we posted nice pictures on Insta (as… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@NNN1 Set light to something in a frying pan, @IAS has just texted me and he got it spot on 2nd attempt. Post THAT on your Instagram and I think it’ll lite up with female interest. Then you can leverage that. “Hit me with your best joke and if it’s good enough you can come over for a seat at the chefs table” Go on do it just as a social experiment. If you’re a broke arse student I’ll PayPal you £20 for the brandy and butter and sugar and fruit if you run the experiment. I’d just love to… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
1 month ago

@Palma

I can still afford that lol.

Yeah, it will be fun, I wanted to do that anyway – had done flambés with my dad earlier.
You mean the thing as a story or a post?

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

No story, no comment, just post one or two pictures of you holding a frying pan with flames 2 ft (600mm) coming out of it. Possibly a picture of the finished product on a plate. Bananas or strawberries.

See what happens. My money it’s a hotline to the hamster and all sorts of women will be reaching out to you. That’s just a wild guess. Where’s @ Sentient when you want to run a book.. lol..

Don’t reply to any comments you get before reporting back here.

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

Nnn1 Palma HABD Starting to feel like the FR section again 😆 [But Rollo’s new comment app sux] Nnn1 – good on yah for doing 10 responses. Commit a few to memory. Here is a good one Her: blah blah You: [stop what you are doing. Get very serious face on. Stare at her] Seriously… you did NOT just say that?!? [Wait a beat for reaction] ahhhh We can’t b friends now [and roll off… wait a beat for her reaction… if she starts defensively then] … ahhh cmere [pull her in] you’re adorable…[hug.. then push off] … but seriously…… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@NNN1

Yesterday emailed me a copy of “the black flag”, and I can’t find the author but I’m 99.9999% sure it’s heartiste undercover and it’s a must read, found it here:

https://b-ok.cc/book/2957302/a0b397?id=2957302&secret=a0b397

Last paragraph of page 84

If she’s stayed with you past 15 or 20 minutes, there’s almost no chance she’ll resist some sort of contact, she would’ve left by now if she weren’t interested at all.

NNN1
NNN1
1 month ago

First a big thank you to all, great advice – although I’ll need some time to chew it through completly. Did the flambé with two bananas in an orange cast-iron pan. I used way too much rum (in absence of brandy lol), but why not have a fireball over one meter when you can. Made it a 10-second video for the Insta-story where I hold the pan, throw in the rum and it catches fire instantly lol. Then I exportet a frame of it where I hold the pan a with a one-meter flame, smirking a bit. No comment beneath… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@NNN1 Ok I’d forgotten this because it’s been so long since any man has tried to tool me; but other men will HATE, and I mean HATE your flamboyant DHV’s and the success with women it will bring. This includes you wearing anything that’s a peacock. When I was younger it happened quite a lot. I had a bright red jacket that I used to wear out that created openings with women and trouble from men. (I’ve still got a red jacket now but). They’ll shit test and try to start fights with you. So handling other men can become… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
1 month ago

@Palma

39 Likes right now, another good friend commented on the foto (a compliment).
No comments or girls hitting me up until now lol.

While reading through The Black Flag, what do you think about his styling advice? Granted, the peacocking part is well established since Mystery, but what about Cologne? – Is it worth it and are the ones he recommends well-chosen?

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@NNN1 39 Likes right now, another good friend commented on the foto (a compliment). I reckon that’s good for a man as opposed to a woman showing her tits. What’s the % man / woman on the likes, and how does this compare with other things you’ve poasted? I’m still trying to work out how to spin this. Ideally you need a photo of you doing it again with a woman stood next to you in fits of hysterics / absolutely astonished / clearly having really good fun / freaking out. You got a girl housemate right? Could you pivot… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@NNN1 Perhaps flambe mustard chicken, mash, carrots. Followed by flambe banana. You buy skinless chicken breasts. Over here you can get a bulk pack of those – 8 for about £8 I wrap them in a tinfoil parcel and Chuck in a bit of white wine to keep the humidity up then you put them on a baking tray and bake them at 180 for – I don’t actually know how long, probably about 20 mins. They need to be fully cooked. Then you need to do mash potato, and for this you just slice up potatoes about 1cm in… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
1 month ago

@Palma

I’ve posted nothing before but several stories of making pizza (in the woodfired oven) with friends.

16 of 39 likes stem from girls – so that’s at least not bad, although not the usual public comments like under many posts on Insta.

I’m going to try the mustard chicken, probably at the next party with the boys (like when we made pizza).

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@If I Fell It is glitchy. It’s almost impossible to read on a mobile device, jumping around like a grasshopper on coke. Field reports is prob the right place. So congratulations on your son. He’s got it together with a job that pays enough out the gate to rent a place solo. That’s almost unheard of here, and he’s got hold of his balls so well that he’s walked from his gurrlfriend for the opportunity too. That’s even better. So you’ve done well there. How did your son react to the conversation about flambé food? I’m now fascinated by this… Read more »

If-I-Fell
If-I-Fell
1 month ago

@Palmasailor, TL/DR – felt like righttin’ Flambé Food He is overwhelmed by his new status. He has the power to be a “Rock Star” but he has not recognized his potential. I don’t think he’s ready for multiple plates or FNL’s. He’s been serial, with mega-dates lasting several days at a time. He doesn’t like a lot of drama. I think the mega-dates ended when he either got tired of the drama or had school work to complete. “Fortress Solitude” I actually had this for a month. My future wife bought a stick and couldn’t drive it. My lessons failed.… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@if I fell TL/DR – felt like righttin’ Yeah me too sometimes it can clear the head. And the men I here have an outlook that’s rare. He doesn’t like a lot of drama Funny, it’s taken me this long to realise the fastest way to get drama is to avoid drama. Drama is basically the guard dog spinning up. Leading on from that actually being a young high value man is a dangerous place to be. I got a midnight WhatsApp from @a previous young poaster here last week. @SJF has been mentoring him. Long story short he has… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
1 month ago

Palma After we met last time I just thought that my exes Power was over. I Don’t be surprised if your exes power over your son comes and goes. Think of this like waves on the beach; her power over him was near total for years, washing over him constantly. But now the tide is going out, and so while she can still pour a wave over him, each time it won’t reach quite as high. In time he’ll be free of her control, and it will be a good thing if you can spend time with him during that… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@Anonymous Reader Thanks for your comments, I didn’t think of it like that. We had a brilliant relationship until he was about 15 when I was forced to relocate 50 miles away. Access should have been straightforward but she stonewalled me so I took it to court (mistake) and I got thrown out. The two female judges literally wouldn’t even let me speak so I got up and walked out. Propaganda against me must have been brutal. In the last 3+ years I probably asked to see him between 150 and 300 times, and in that time he may have… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

Field Report So I’ve got a bite on this Feeld dating app which caters specifically for non monogamous/ “ethical poly” and every other type of thing. They’re all sub, and they want a Dom. 99.99% of them outright say it. That’s both the women and the “men”. And it is full, and I mean full of target age women. Predominately 20 – 32. There is almost no representation much above 38, I’d say the bulk are 25. Out the gate they set your default age range at 18-71 and I didn’t change it. Anything is acceptable in this new paradigm… Read more »

Peter Pan
Peter Pan
1 month ago

I did not read all of the cooking tips here… but it looks way complicated.
My favourite date is just taking a girl to a market, to buy vegetables.
I will let her pick most of the items, and let her know it’s a test… “I wish to see if you are any good with tomatoes”, etc.
Also, I will tend to make immature jokes involving cucumbers.
Later, it’s only natural that we go somewhere comfortable to make a salad…
And in the end, if nothing else, I will at least end up with some sort of salad.

Peter Pan
Peter Pan
1 month ago

While the salad date looks simple and ad-hoc, there are a number of important frames and precedencies being set: It’s not a traditional date… No awkward sitting in a restaurant I am not spending any money on the girl (except for the ingredients) I am not spending any time on the girl (as I would have done the same things anyway) I am being healthy… No junk food for me… but maybe just a little cheese on top I am knowledgeable about this… I can and will talk about vegetables and their benefits I have high standards… The ingredients must… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

Palma

Solid solid plan mate. Love how you are marching up the logistics and practicalities, which are most often the biggest obstacle.

Respect the “rhythm of the night” as Julien used to say…

She’s kryptonite… 😆

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@Peter Pan

You haven’t studied game have you.

Do you want feedback? Because that ^^ process doesn’t work reliably does it.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

The show so far.

She’s using her correct name on What’s App so she’s either legit and advertising for what she wants or she’s going to try to be an SB.

https://imgur.com/a/sckxJoM

She’ll get no validation by text from me, and I won’t let her drag me into sexting – though her reply timings indicate she’s chatting to loads of men.

So it’s a meet or nothing

NNN1
NNN1
1 month ago

@Palma

Congrats – feels like a solid evening. Success with that!

Now, why do her response times indicate her texting multiple men – while they don’t imply the opposite, aren’t they pretty direct?

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
1 month ago

Looks like a bit of Borderline personality who is bidding for SB status.

The fishy has already nudged the lure a time or two. Maybe you can set the hook.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@Anonymous Reader / All Just had dinner with my son again. The major difference this time was he greeted me with a huge grin and a hug (at his instigation). There was no defensive body language. We didn’t get drunk this time. The conversation was good and about loads of stuff. We didn’t arrange another week but I’ll give it a week and hit him up again. His mother still dropped him, and collected him. Da’pocalypse has fucked with his driving lessons which over here is a lot more complicated than it was when I got a licence in Florida;… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

Palma

Great stuff. He is only going to rely on you more and more as he continues to grow up in the world and get out from under her apron.

Uber has an option to add a family member to your account so you could do that and he’d have full mobility and jot have to ask for rides or pay etc.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@sentient Thanks. He had that on my account a couple of years back but he pulled away from it and says he’s on his mother’s account. He also had a bank bard of mine for paying for travel but that expired in the midst of it all. I might actually re instate that in case of “emergencies”. I’ve been providing him with an iphone however at some point over the last few years he’s obviously got another one with another number that I don’t know because there’s no activity on the one I provide apart from calling me and incoming… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

Palma

I’d offer the uber “no strings attached”, i.e. he can use it whenever for anything, not just seeing you. Under the guise of corona messing up his license. Then when he passed his test work out a car situation.

The more freedom he has the better.

The key though is uou make the decision and set it up and then just tell him he can use it whenever. That we he doesn’t have to “decide” to accept your offer which would put him back in the middle.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@sentient

Thanks – I’ve just ordered him a credit card on my account for emergencies

I’ll do the Uber thing as well and wrap it up together “during covid” until he gets his licence

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
1 month ago

Supposedly 80% of the UK has gotten a vaxx injection, yet Covid cases are surging?

What ever happened to “herd immunity” that was supposed to already be here?

So Palma, is it gonna be another lockup?

NNN1
NNN1
1 month ago

@Anonymous Reader As new mutations make the virus more infectious the share of vaccinated population needed to reach heard immunity goes up. At some point more infectious mutations could even make herd immunity unreachable, as the vaccines would not be effective enough. UK also is kind of europe leading in terms of mutations, other countries like Germany (as I live here) have the formerly British mutation dominating and cases decline dramatically. Thus, live starts up here again. Obviously, India seems tougher in it’s mutant breeding and ’cause UK always imports world-leading biotech (lol) they will take either more vaccines or… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@Anonymous Reader So Palma, is it gonna be another lockup? We’re still not fully released from the last lock down. Furthermore the date on that has been pushed back by a month. This is all about control now and nothing else. More than a few of us think that we’ll never be allowed to be free (to the extent we were) in our lives again. Ie lockdown will never be released. Mandatory enrolment to the drug trial, tracing your every move 24/7 and ultimately the abolition of cash and a whole load more shit Orwell could never have even dreamed… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

I’m running out of head shakes with this

Soon to be married and advertising for other men to fuck

It’s just so overt now

https://imgur.com/a/OQcVnZL

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
1 month ago

It’s just so overt now

Open hypergamy. The man she’s gonna marry should probably save time and money – dump her now.

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
1 month ago

Hi guys – I’m back after a long break. Tried to post a longer update twice yesterday but it didn’t go through – are posts going to mod here now, like the old days on CH?

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@OldTimePoster

My stuff still goes through ok, but I don’t know, “new” usernames might be going into mod. Been a bit of shit flying one way or another recently with @ Rollos twatter and old “friends” targeting him.

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

No mod as far as I can tell. Maybe a lenght issue? Plug in is a little wonky.

IRL
IRL
1 month ago

@OldTimePoster

Too many links? Links to banned sites? Sensitive words? Too many words? Too few words? Too many attempts to submit a comment in a row? Sasquatch passing by? Lol

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
1 month ago

I think it might be a browser issue. Safari and Brave didn’t work, but Chrome appears to. If this post goes through I’ll try to copy paste my swallowed up post next on Chrome and see if it goes through.

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
1 month ago

I guess not for the full post. Part 1 Hi gang. It’s been a long break, but I’m back. New year, new name, new self-identity. I got sick of repeating the same questions and getting the same (good) advice here that I never fully acted on. So I went away and did my own version of “Monk Mode” for a year. Successes: Finally settled into a proper long term lifting routine for the first time in my life and have built a decent amount of muscle. Long way to go of course – 25 years of neglect can’t be fixed… Read more »

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
1 month ago

Part 2 Diet: Sorted out my diet properly – again for the first time. It’s nothing magical, but it works for me and is sustainable. I track my calories burnt on a Fitbit and how much I eat (nothing OCD – just decent estimates) and stay in a mild calorie deficit with occasional weeks of being in a surplus. I drink almost zero alcohol (COVID restrictions and not going out helped) and dessert/sugar only once a week on cheat day. I make sure I get plenty of protein, and generally I eat good quality food (my wife is great in… Read more »

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
1 month ago

Part 3 Things I am Still Working On Sex with wife – Overall, the sex life has improved. It’s still not where I want it to be though. Partly it is just the logistics have been more difficult with the kids at home all the time due to COVID restrictions and we live in a small apartment and unless they are fast asleep, they will hear us pretty much anywhere. It’s not an attraction issue – it wasn’t one even in the old days, but with all fitness and other improvements this year and general improvement in family life and… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

OTP

Welcome back! So glad to hear from you. Been wondering who has survived the coof.

This post my day, sounds like you have done a lot. A few tweaks on the home front and there you go.

Blax is MIA. Fear the worst… A lot of usual names have gone away… activity is waaaaaay down, certainty for Palma. He is working on a harem of mid 20s hotties 😆

Biggest macro change is women are seriously DTF these days if you show any masculine qualities at all. Be careful!

Great to hear from you.

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

Except for Palma.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

Hey welcome back – I was worried that it had all gone to shit for you. I should have had more faith. Lots there ^^ and all good This stood out : but I’ve never properly seduced my wife or escalated with her and gone consistently to sex I think that ^^ was a result of the twin personality. You didn’t do the work on you, you built a new you that understood game etc.. and you could turn that on, but that was a state you stepped into; you hadn’t become that person. Looks like you’ve turned that around.… Read more »

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
1 month ago

Palma, Sentient – thanks guys, it’s great to be back. Really missed being part of a group of men who “just get it”, and not just about Game. But the time away was useful. Aside from the general virus depression and craziness that seems to hang everywhere (although I was reminded more than once of HABD saying something like (paraphrased) “change starts changing yourself and living as best as you – bottom up” so I’ve been trying to live as normally as I can and ignore the craziness), my life is really pretty good now. Of course, there’s always things… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@OldTimePoster The son thing is good, and it came out of the blue. I’ve been pitching him every couple of weeks for a get together for years now, and rejection after rejection. Then bang. Regime change. He said yes and it feels totally different. Well she’s not a girlfriend. There’s been no discussion about what she is and isn’t. I think she’s been thinking it’s her “silly girl fling” but I don’t think she can actually let go now. She’s been flying in, then she’s straight to quarantine in my place. We eat drink and fuck, and then she goes.… Read more »

IRL
IRL
1 month ago

@OTP Great to have you back. Great progress, too. On this: It’s more that – it sounds weird – but I’ve never properly seduced my wife or escalated with her and gone consistently to sex. It’s like – the kind of thing I do pretty much on autopilot – the vibe, the body language, the laser – all of it – with other women. But I’ve literally never done it with my wife – it’s like I luck into sex with my wife when it happens (even when it happens more often) and I have no mental map or habit… Read more »

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
1 month ago

@Palma – I find that whole wanting to be in constant physical contact with you when you’re there very interesting. It’s more than just sex – has a lot to do with masculinity, presence, a feeling of protection and things like that. Very primal. Also, some aspects of possession. Doesn’t she get bored hanging around at home waiting for you to get home if she’s staying for weeks on end? Or does she have like friends in the local area or something? @IRL – Thanks! Good to be back. It’s funny – actually, I do the kind of thing you… Read more »

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
1 month ago

BTW Palma – are you still on the same email address? Your username at Outlook com I think? I may be coming to your neck of the woods

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@OldTimePoster @Palma – I find that whole wanting to be in constant physical contact with you when you’re there very interesting. It’s more than just sex – has a lot to do with masculinity, presence, a feeling of protection and things like that. Very primal. Also, some aspects of possession. Yeah there’s something else going on. It’s not just the physical contact, it’s the type of contact. She’s forever massaging shoulders, running her hands down arms etc.. Doesn’t she get bored hanging around at home waiting for you to get home if she’s staying for weeks on end? Or does… Read more »

IRL
IRL
1 month ago

@OTP The issue isn’t really at her end – it’s more from me Don’t stress it. Have you heard of Coolidge effect? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coolidge_effect The term “Coolidge effect” was first suggested by behavioral endocrinologist Frank A. Beach in 1958.[8] He attributed the neologism to[9] an old joke about Calvin Coolidge when he was President … The President and Mrs. Coolidge were being shown [separately] around an experimental government farm. When [Mrs. Coolidge] came to the chicken yard she noticed that a rooster was mating very frequently. She asked the attendant how often that happened and was told, “Dozens of times each… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

Oldtimeposter A few things going on. Yes IRL is right with the Coolidge Effect. The full expression of your biology is to bang everything in sight. The “new” is attractive. Why do guys love lingerie? Why do women dye their hair etc. Roger Sterling – ” There’s no business like new business” New is part. Another obvi is you enjoy “winning the game” and the ego boosts from that. Beating the same old opponent isn’t as satisfying. Now after 10 + years, there’s a groove worn by mutual behaviors. Like when adults go back home, they take on their child… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

“also probably useful to do some more teasing throughout the day even if nothing can happen immediately – push/pull, back off, build the anticipation etc).” Yup. Athol Kay would remind iou that women have responsive desire. She’s going around all day not thinking at all about sex – kids, laundry, meals, her friends, kids, kids kids, money, etc… – yes. Banging you not much. Unless you wedge that monster in her head. Get that brainwave going. Then go on about your business. Later on you can draw on all that stop and start much easier. Also good to mix it… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
1 month ago

Oldtimeposter!!! welcome back! glad to see you are doing well… It’s more that – it sounds weird – but I’ve never properly seduced my wife or escalated with her and gone consistently to sex. It’s like – the kind of thing I do pretty much on autopilot – the vibe, the body language, the laser – all of it – with other women. But I’ve literally never done it with my wife – it’s like I luck into sex with my wife when it happens (even when it happens more often) and I have no mental map or habit of… Read more »

Peter Pan
Peter Pan
1 month ago

@Palma You haven’t studied game have you. Do you want feedback? I have described my default, most basic “date” plan… which has been very useful, but I guess it’s a bit of a template that can be extended in many ways. Anyway I’m a bit rusty these days… The pandemic caused some upset, and I have focused on other matters for a while. Now getting back into good habits. Signed up for a new gym, ended a bad relationship, reorganized some logistics, and more. As for “studied game”, hell yes! Studied, practiced, taught, you name it. I used to hang… Read more »

IAS
IAS
1 month ago

@OTP Welcome back. I’m still around. I don’t remember exactly when your break started, certainly a lot happened since. Thank you for the push into crypto, you contributed to me getting into it before the December/January jumps and like you, even with the “crash” in May I’m still quite positive in the crypto “investment”. Not “life changing” amount of money that would let me retire, but nice. Although until we sell we haven’t really locked those profits so who knows… With respect to your wife and from your description it is probably your lack of intense desire that is not… Read more »

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
1 month ago

Hey guys, Will reply to everyone shortly, but first an update about FWB. This is a decent looking (but not superhot) 40ish year old single woman who I met on some sugar daddy site like 4 years ago – she’s always known I’m married and there’s never been any question of giving her money or gifts or anything like that .Typical meet up is in a hotel (or her place) to bang and then have a meal if we have time. Anyway, back in the days when I was travelling a lot, I only saw her every 2 months or… Read more »

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
1 month ago

@IAS & @Sentient – lol at the “Coolidge effect”. I’ve actually heard that anecdote before, but hadn’t heard the name or connected it to my situation. I think you’re right – that’s a big factor. I’ll turn up the dread (already happening to some extent with the physical changes) but to a large extent this is something to be “managed” and “balanced” rather than “fixed” in a technical Game sense I think. It is what it is, and I like being married and having a family (even if it is not quite enough by itself) so that’s that I think.… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 month ago

@OTP

You are the best thing that has happened to me in a very long time. But this is not going anywhere and we cannot keep doing this – I need to create space in my life for something permanent and the way it is developing now..I can’t do it”

Textbook LSNFTE – black dragon, she’s nexting you to try to get exclusively/ MOAR commitment

Right answer is “you’re a great girl and you deserve to be happy – good luck!”

NNN1
NNN1
29 days ago

Hello Guys, micro report: No recent dates, alot of work but a little bit more social contact. Things really open up here again and meeting other students and old friends again feels great. Now we are roughly 200 people in my semester, of which probably 100 to 120 girls. Of this 120 I pinged about three or four with similar pings, two or three with the same. Now the ping surely was not what they would have expected, but neither offensive, nor assaultive nor outright offensively gamey. I’m quite reknown in my semester for my engagement in the student body… Read more »

IRL
IRL
29 days ago

@NNN1 Good. It’s a shit test. Shit tests are great, they’re the opposite of indifference and give you something to be playful with. Be congruent and authentic. And own it. “Hey NNN, you know, as a friend, I want to give you this hint, you shouldn’t text that many girls and focus more on one – as_I_met_three_girls_already_who_you_sent_the_exact_same_messages_to_” She didn’t say the texts were creepy. She’s trying to block the competition… lol Come up with 10 responses. For practice. “Did it work”… with a smirk. “You can’t help yourself but talk about me with other girls can you”… and a smirk.… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
29 days ago

NNN1 Good for you for getting out. Out is where the good stuff is, the work. Field is king. This kind of thing is going to come up, similar to girls saying “is that a pick up line?”, “is that a neg?”, are you one of those pick up guys?” Etx. Like everything else, experience helps. Have a few go to responses worked out that a)handle her test and b) take the frame from her and c) provide a compliance hoop for her to jump through. Because this kind of thing WILL happen… Here with the spam texts there are… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
29 days ago

@IRL – that makes sense By the way after she talked to me we talked about her psychotherapy for ten minutes or more. Claims to be depressive since she moved out. One hour and a thunderstorm later we sat in a restaurant and she told us (so the whole group) she wants to cut her hair short. My good friend naturally asked her what her friend says about that – to which she gave about no response (or I forgot that). Anyway, here are the ten responses: -> Sure, how did you find them? –> Did uou girls also talk… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
29 days ago

@Sentient That makes sense, now is it a problem I did not bang any one of them? If you had asked me the day before yesterday about girls talking about boys I’d have said something like “yeah they probably do” – but I would never have imagined it to be that large of a thing. Actually two weeks ago I went on an in-field tutorial (not that in-field) and walked around with a gay guy and a semi-pretty girl (very sweet character, but didn’t pass the boner test and claimed to have a boyfriend). As we talked about how many… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
29 days ago

@NNN1 It’s probably been covered by @Sentient & @IRL – but this jumps out the page: Hey NNN, you know, as a friend, I want to give you this hint, you shouldn’t text that many girls and focus more on one – Shit test / competition anxiety as_I_met_three_girls_already_who_you_sent_the_exact_same_messages_to_ They’re all talking about you. You hit 4% of the database and she knows about all of them, statistically improbable captain Should I bother / be worried? Nope that should be as likely as maybe 15% Yeah but normal stats don’t count here – they’re all talking about you – whats your… Read more »

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
29 days ago

@NNN1 – good effort on the ten responses. The others have already made the main points, so I’ll just talk about the ten responses. First, remember, that all of these responses can work, and all of them can fail. It depends partly on the girl, and mostly on your frame and the subcomms you are putting out – your “vibe” if you will. That’s far more important than the words in the actual response. Second, think back to basic principles from MM on dealing with shit tests (which the comment from the girl was – I would also say that… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
29 days ago

@NNN1 you’re getting great advice… just one point from me… By the way after she talked to me we talked about her psychotherapy for ten minutes or more. Claims to be depressive since she moved out. be careful!… this is beta baiting at it’s best!…lol… don’t become her emotional tampon… usually girls in that ‘depressive’ category just need a good f*k…lol… but not kidding… when girls start slinging sh*t tests around, they don’t just throw out one… unless you fail the first one…lol they start to work their whole rolodex to try to slot you into the appropriate AF or… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
29 days ago

@NNN1 actually one more point…lol try to avoid the oneitis idea/aspect of the FI… in general, it’s a value-taking concept… Actually two weeks ago I went on an in-field tutorial (not that in-field) and walked around with a gay guy and a semi-pretty girl (very sweet character, but didn’t pass the boner test and claimed to have a boyfriend). you should be sexualizing with ALL girls… and friendly to other guys… (even if they are gay…lol) first, it’s great practice for you to reform your own self-image… second, she’s a girl, so she talks to other girls… pre-selection comes from… Read more »

Dr. No
Dr. No
28 days ago

As a heads-up.
Thought there was post referencing Bill Cosby conviction.
Cannot find it, (if there ever was)
Trial overturned, he is being released.
This is going to be interesting

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
27 days ago

@Dr No: Some sense shown by the appellate court for sure, but it seems to have turned on legal procedural technicalities alone? Not quite a ringing takedown of MeToo, but it’s a start I suppose.

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
27 days ago

Two vignettes from recent days for no particular reason than to record them: -Two girls (somewhere in the 18-25 age group, difficult to tell, one 6, one 7, both nice bodies) walking past me on the street – 7 is telling the 6 “Yeah it’s been so long since I slept with anyone because of the pandemic..” (voice tails off as they get further from me) -Walking down the street again, HB6-6.5 28-30 year old walks past me – big smile, full solid eye contact as she goes past. I smile back. (As to the latter, I have noticed this… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
27 days ago

Walking down the street again, HB6-6.5 28-30 year old walks past me – big smile, full solid eye contact as she goes past

Guess her clock is ticking 😏

Sentient
Sentient
27 days ago

Is Archie defunct?

Great last post…

http://www.westindianarchie.com/sympathy-for-the-devils/

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
26 days ago

@Sentient

He shows up every now and again at Skilled Seducer, but not much.

Someone so just don’t get what he’s saying with his poasts.

NNN1
NNN1
26 days ago

Guys, thanks for all the advice.

It’s been pretty counter-intuitive for me to accept being talked about as a good thing.
But it makes sense and as I reflected it these days I feel more and more comfortable with it.

From that point it’s on me to make further progress.

Sentient
Sentient
26 days ago

It’s all part of developing status NNN1. Your reputation preceding you. Manage to your benefit.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
25 days ago

I know you do / but push the paper copies Rollo

1984 isn’t far away now.

Possibly even before the next presidential election we’ll have the ministry of truth:

https://www.technocracy.news/technocracy-rising-world-economic-forum-announces-global-coalition-for-digital-safety/

DisgruntledEarthling
DisgruntledEarthling
25 days ago

Comments have become unreadable – the scroll position keeps jumping around (firefox, Windows).
Not that they’ve become that interesting to struggle through…

NNN1
NNN1
25 days ago

I planned on holding back a bit more and live up to the advice before asking for more – jet it’s just part of the previous FR in some way. On Thursday A. (the french girl) set up a small party as she went home on Friday (for 3 weeks) – for which we went for Billiard. That was in itself nothing exciting, yet from that I know she uses to go mountain-biking (<– does that word exist?) with a Dude: Physique similair to mine, not overtly muscular but fit without fat … And black nails, behaving like tryhard AMOG.… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
25 days ago

Disgruntled Earthling

Comments have become unreadable – the scroll position keeps jumping around (firefox, Windows).

Try Brave.

https://brave.com/

IRL
IRL
25 days ago

@NNN1 What is your take on that? Girls are hardly ever alone. Even if they’re single or not having much sex, doesn’t matter. They need a social circle and interactions, everything else is secondary. Family members, BFFs, girls only and mixed meetups, orbiters, followers, providers, lovers, kids, cats. It’s up to you who you become in this web of connections and emotional associations. If you’re not a creep or an alpha stud oozing sexual energy, the default ping in your direction will be to put you in orbit. There’s so much utility that can be drawn from that. From a… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
24 days ago

@NNN1 I planned on holding back a bit more and live up to the advice before asking for more – jet it’s just part of the previous FR in some way. Nah… we’re bored.. On Thursday A. (the french girl) set up a small party as she went home on Friday (for 3 weeks) – for which we went for Billiard. This is the girl you were going to cook omelette for right That was in itself nothing exciting, yet from that I know she uses to go mountain-biking (<– does that word exist?) with a Dude: Physique similair to… Read more »

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
24 days ago

Today I made a joke to my wife when discussing plans for the week. Something like “tomorrow I’m going to work to slave away in my family’s service as I always do”, and she was like “Your family’s service? You’ll do what you always do – you do exactly what you want to do, and live the life you want to live and the rest of us ride along in your slipstream..” (the vibe of her statement was not negative at all – she was more amused and smiling than anything else) Stuff like this is good to record here… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
23 days ago

@IRL An alpha wouldn’t care and so will I – at least about giving out contacts. @Palma Well, if you’re bored I can report more lol. Yep, A. is the same girl from France I planned on doing that omelette. Proximity makes sense except she went home to France for three weeks but I can surely start that up again then. On the insecure dude: I talked with a good friend about social dynamics and thus reflected the situation again. He always tried to take the lead (like navigating through the city). Always commented on me, like tryhard making someone… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
23 days ago

NNN1

As you “ascend” as the cool kids say today, you’re going to draw fire. Get used to it. Predict and expect it.

Now what’s truly Alpha is not bone crushing your adversary, it’s smoothly stealing his thunder and getting him into your frame, ultimately following you.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AbOZsRdS3-g

Of course Tom Cruise can do both. [Hat tip to Yareally for the lesson]

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
22 days ago

@NNN1 @Palma Well, if you’re bored I can report more lol. Well I’m bored in Some ways. Lots of work to do in Other ways. I’m actually doing too much work and not enough (any) delegation but I’m quite enjoying it for the moment. Yep, A. is the same girl from France I planned on doing that omelette. So just invite her over ffs Proximity makes sense except she went home to France for three weeks but I can surely start that up again then. Well she’s back NOW though isn’t she.. On the insecure dude: I talked with a… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
22 days ago

@Palma Good for you, Probs on that. “Got that omega hierarchy state for a year and it really was no_fun I don’t even know what that is” –> Just the bottom of a hierarchy. “Nearly surreal, acted like the biggest bull in the room lol. Bulll- did I misread? I thought he just folded?” –> Yep, first he acted like tryhard “I’ve got the biggest balls on Campus” and then he folded and that’s it. Now I had my problems getting this lol: “Don’t be worried about going “nah” and just walking off. No explanation. Give them the gift of… Read more »

If-I-Fell
If-I-Fell
22 days ago

@Palma

‘I am not a number. I am a free man!’

kfg
kfg
22 days ago

‘I am not a number. I am a free man!’

I need to build a Caterham 7 kit to go with it.

‘I am not a number. I am a free man!’

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
22 days ago

@NNN1 –> Just the bottom of a hierarchy. You don’t even want to think of that space. It’s somewhere you never want to be and if you were ever there, don’t admit it. “Nearly surreal, acted like the biggest bull in the room lol. Bulll- did I misread? I thought he just folded?” –> Yep, first he acted like tryhard “I’ve got the biggest balls on Campus” and then he folded and that’s it. Yeah that’s where he is. Nowhere. As I said, as little as 20 years ago, by now someone would have punched him and he’d know his… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
22 days ago

Palma I’ve been wanting for ages to build a Caterham and race it but for reasons it’s never really been a possibility. Never heard of it, thought you were going on about a boat. Did a search. Always entertaining when my ignorance gets popped. Yeah, ok, who wouldn’t want one? So I’m at the stage where I could probably do it and I’m looking at the specifics and checking on what engine etc. And I’m looking at the video on the website and there we are – it’s a woman driving it. Fugget that vid, watch this one featuring KAR-120.… Read more »

kfg
kfg
22 days ago

Ah. I missed Palma bringing up the Caterham and reverse responded The Prisoner reference. Never mind.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
20 days ago

Dog mom spotted. On the way from one place to another, I’m getting a coffee from a local joint. There’s a vehicle with out of state plates parked under a tree and a girl of upper 20’s to maybe very early 30’s urging some entity that I cannot see to “Come on out, that’s right, let’s get out now!” with the tone of voice girls use with children. Then she starts walking her dog around the trees on the leash around, saying “Let’s go potty! Time for potty!” exactly as they talk to toddlers / preschool children. So I offered… Read more »

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
19 days ago

So guys, here’s a Field Report from me. This dates to several months ago during the winter when COVID restrictions were at their height. I don’t work near that coffee shop anymore and it’s too busy there now to really talk to the barista anyway. Clearly I kind of let it drift away and didn’t strike when the iron was hot (not that I could have done much back then in terms of logistics anyway as almost everything was closed). But the thing that really puzzles me is how I could have smoothly escalated in that kind of situation while… Read more »

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