The New Age of Enlightenment

The Old Order

I can remember a time back in the 1980s when I would visit my mother for a weekend and she’d insist my brother and I go to her church on Sundays. At this point in her life she was very much an Evangelical Christian. I would go with her because my mom’s side of the family had always been the religious side, and that was just part of who my mom was. I did have a basic faith in God and Christianity at the time, but my father was a card carrying atheist (and nominal Unitarian) for his whole life, so I had a pretty eclectic religious education when I was a teenager.

My father was a skeptic by nature and a lot of my own questioning nature was indirectly influenced by him. I can remember going to my mom’s church and suffering through the worship music to get to the sermon. I actually enjoyed the sermons because they gave me something to chew on intellectually. Not that the 15 year old Rollo was much of a thinker at that time, but I always had basic questions for these guys after the speech. When I got a bit older, in my early 20s, I started wondering who these ‘pastors’ really were as people and what made them qualified to deliver sermons. I really wanted to talk with these guys, but doing so meant I had to sit through their hard sell about how Jesus had saved them from themselves. I always thought this was kind of silly considering most of these guys weren’t much older than me. How hard a life could these guys really have lived by 25?

Most of these pastors weren’t used to was really having to engage much with their congregations beyond what was required of them to maintain appearances. I don’t mean that they were inaccessible; most of them had something outside of church that kept them involved with people. It’s that prior to the internet the way a pastor, or a church, did business usually centered on a man delivering a message (presumedly inspired by God) and then shaking hands with the faithful after the sermon was over as they filed out the door. End of sermon. End of discussion. 

If you wanted to talk about the sermon, or, heaven forbid, criticize the interpretation or message in some way that was a conversation relegated to your family, or perhaps a home group discussion. Assuming you even were in a home group or had a few peers you could discuss it with, you always risked running afoul of someone whose ego-investments in his/her faith would put them on edge by questioning it. The old order of religion, not just Christianity, used to be based on respecting the man delivering that message as God’s ordained spokesman, or reading whatever book he might’ve published, processing it yourself or with a handful of other believers, sussing things out and waiting for the next message on the next Sunday. There was very little engagement about articles of faith or doctrine unless you were a guy on the inside.

All of this changed with the advent of the internet and the globalization of mass media and communication.

Today, there’s hardly a pastor (mainstream or obscure) who doesn’t have a blog or a YouTube channel on which he (or she) contemplates his last/next sermon. In the 80s-90s even the most introspective religious leader would have only a handful of people to bounce ideas off, but today a sermon is almost focus grouped before the guy walks up to the pulpit on a Sunday. Meanwhile, that same pastor is engaged on two or three social media accounts discussing everything from religion, to politics, to praying for his favorite NFL team to make the playoffs.

The old order of how religion was done has given way to a new, globalized process of how we do religion. Today anyone, believer or not, has access to that pastor on a moments notice. Didn’t like the message? Thought the interpretation was inaccurate? You can tell him on his blog’s comment thread or fire off a tweet to start a discussion about it before he can even drive home from church. 

This is the age of globalized engagement – and this new paradigm is fundamentally altering old order institutions. What the Guttenburg press did for religion by publishing the Bible for the masses, now the internet has done for the old order way in which people can engage with the process of their beliefs – and not just religious belief.

The New Enlightenment

February of last year I wrote an essay about the Global Sexual Marketplace. In that post I described how globalization isn’t just about economics or demographics – globalization also applies to intersexual dynamics. Gone are the days when a young man or young woman could expect to meet one of the handful of eligible, single people in their high school, small town or limited social circle to pair off and start a family with. In the old order young people were stuck with the choices of a limited Local sexual marketplace. Today, with our instant, robust forms of communication, a worldwide sexual marketplace has now opened up the romantic prospects of virtually anyone with a smartphone and an internet connection. Don’t like your prospects in your hometown? Now there’s a whole world of men and women waiting to meet you. The old order of intersexual dynamics has fundamentally shifted and all in less than 20 years.

The rapidity of this shift is what I believe is at the root of the problems that surround the new way of doing the old order institutions. As a global society we are still reluctant to let go of the falsehoods of those old order institutions; even in light of the new order evidences and data collected as a result of this unprecedented access. While we attempt to reconcile our old order beliefs with what a global information network confronts them with, we cling evermore tightly to what we thought we knew because it formed the foundation of who we are. And as we try to make sense of it we are presented with both true and false narratives that pander to the fact that this information and technology is progressing at a rate that most human beings’ minds were never evolved to keep pace with.

My good friend Aaron Clarey (Captain Capitalism) recently published a tour de force article on women entering into and dominating most of the future of Corporate America, and how men ought to welcome this change. It’s a great post, so definitely go read the whole thing, but after I’d finished it I was struck with the idea that what Clarey was on to was describing an old order institution (Corporate America) and how we still perceived it from an old order understanding. On the surface it seems counterintuitive to think of women assuming authority over what was the Male Space of Corporate Culture as a good thing. Cap was being facetious for the whole thing, but his point was really this: women have coveted the reigns of Corporate America for a long time now, but their feminist thirst for power (Fempowerment) is based on an old order understanding of what Corporate America really is, or will eventually become. Like a debutant late to the party, the status and prestige that the Feminine Imperative sells women to believe is inherent in Corporate America is all old order bullshit. So, yeah, have at it ladies. The information age has stripped back the curtains on the Corporate America you assumed all that student debt to participate in.

Academia is another area in which this old order vs. new enlightenment understanding is taking place. Prior to 2000 if you heard a particular professor had a reputation for being tough, you had to get it from a third party. Today we have rate-the-professor.com or something similar. Now you can see how well a teacher performed from students who took their classes from a decade ago. 

GlassCeiling.com is an aggregate of current and ex employees rating the work environment of damn near any company today. Yelp.com does something similar to a businesses performance. And as a result most of these companies hire specialized personnel to maintain their online reputations – and this is the paranoia that comes from presuming old order impressions of a company are relevant in a new order paradigm.

Analog Thinking vs. Digital Thinking

“In the future, everything that can be digital will be digital.” 

I’m not sure who originated this quote, but I can remember it being tossed around in graphic design circles as early as 1993. Back then the print industry was transitioning to a digital way of production. Adobe Photoshop was at version 3.0 (when I started using it) and QuarkXpress was revolutionizing pagination for pretty much every publication at the time. The writing was on the wall. I was fortunate to be coming into my career on the cusp of the old order traditional ways of creating ads and publications (stat cameras and pasteup galleys) and learning their digital equivalents in design applications. I had to get real good, real quick, not only in terms of understanding the hardware, software and networking, but also in using it to create effective, creative, advertising. A lot of my contemporaries struggled with this transition. My mentors in design were old school designers. They taught me a lot with respect to effective advertising and design, but they couldn’t teach me the new tech that was changing every 6-8 months. Whereas in the old order a design agency only focused on print media and employed a full complement of professionals for each aspect of production (photography, typography, pasteup, pressmen, etc.) now I was responsible for all of these jobs and more to come as the internet opened up more new media to desktop publishers like me.

I had to get real good, real fast, and maintain my creative edge all while expanding into more and more new areas and methods of producing what I do. The old order designers either adapted or went extinct. Since the early 90s this narrative has played out across countless professions and trades. I can remember listening to Lars Ulrich from Metallica complain about how Napster’s peer-to-peer file sharing of MP3s was going to be the death of the music industry. The old order musicians weren’t ready to accept the realities of “everything that can be digital will be digital”.

Analog business models, analog thinking, that have formed the basis of who we are as a society are still in place today. In some ways we can force-fit those old order ideas into our new order digital reality, but eventually that old order thinking reveals its age. College professors, church pastors, your 9-5 corporate American cubicle supervisor, the self-help guru you think has some sort of relevance, the old pop psychologist whose heyday was in the last millennium, all these personalities and an endless number more are all struggling to stay relevant against the information that the new order of 2020 confronts them with.

It’s not that these people are luddites. They embrace the technology and the new means of disseminating their craft, their ideas, their ideologies, in the digital age. It’s that their thinking is still mired in the analog age – an age in which ideas were formed on information that was limited to what generations that came before could gather with the means they had available to them then. The ideas of an analog age are what we’re presently trying to force-fit into the new understanding presented to us by this digital age. We enjoy the luxuries, sensations and entertainment that the digital affords us, but we immerse ourselves in it without realizing how our old order thinking defines why we enjoy it. Our analog selves, the product of millennia of evolution, still defines what our digital selves are without realizing the dangers inherent in our engaging with it. As such we get digital addictions – pornography, social media, ‘engagement’ – and we make our analog selves dependent on a digital economy.

How many YouTube content producers rely on their ’side hustle’ revenue to pay their bills today? How many self-published authors have quit their day jobs to write for their new employer, Amazon, today (Amazon owns 86% of the publishing market today). How many former cubicle workers decided it was more lucrative to start an internet business than continue slaving away at a corporate gig that only made their bosses rich? Today, we’ll readily shift to the digital world to sustain us financially – in the end we don’t have much choice – but it’s the old order thinking that pervades this new “reality” and causes problems.

The number one way that couples meet, since 2005, is online. Via Tinder or Match or other net based ways. Gone are the days of boy-meets-girl, eyes fixed on the other across a crowded high school gym dance floor. Gone are the days of meeting your “bride” at church camp. Those are old order romanticisms, and ones that we still want to force fit back into our new order reality. We think in analog, but we live in digital.

Barriers to Entry

Another thing I did at age 15 was play a lot of guitar. My teenage, MTV fueled, mind really had a love for music. The heavier the better. But the barrier to becoming a “Guitar God” like my heroes was something that was very prohibitive at that time. If you wanted to get good; good enough to actually get a band going, you had to seek out a guitar instructor at the local music store who hopefully shared your taste in music. Beyond a once-a-week, 1-hour lesson, you had no other means of learning an instrument than practicing on your own, buying a book of guitar tablature from the music store, or endlessly wearing down a cassette tape by going back over the song you wanted to learn again and again. And all this was the process of learning to play just a song you liked. I had to learn how to compose a song, write some lyrics, form a band, learn to promote it, and somehow figure out how to scrape up enough money to record a demo in a music studio. The barrier to entry was very steep. You had to love the art so much that you would dedicate a good portion of your life to mastering it.

Today I can go on YouTube and find a 9 year old girl in a country I’ve never heard of before play Eruption by Eddie Van Halen, note for note, because she learned it from another YouTube “content provider”. We have far more resources to understand how to be competent in, if not master, virtually anything today than at any other time in history. We have access to the entire world’s aggregate of information in a device that fits in our pocket.

In his book, Mastery, Robert Greene describes how the barriers to entry into previously prohibitive arenas of life are gone in the digital age. And just like the music industry of the 70s through the 90s, old order industries and institutions have had to cope with the restructuring of their businesses and lifestyles as new generations of digital savvy (if not digital thinking) people become competent in, sometimes master, what took them decades of perseverance to master themselves. What we see in this shift is the Barons of the old order media, industries and institutions  – who jealously guarded their own knowledge-base – attempting to force-fit their analog thinking into a digital mold.

As a result, conflicts arise. When Über revolutionized the idea of ride-sharing in the digital age, the old order taxi companies enlisted every legal tool in their arsenal to fight the inevitability of their old revenue model disappearing. We see the same scenario play out in everything that can be digital becoming digital now. Even the old order institutions that built their mastery and prosperity on a successful pivot to the digital (the early dot coms) are finding that even newer aspects of the digital now threaten the successes of that initial pivot.

Content is King

Mastery is now easier to attain than at any other time in human history. The old order, analog thinking masters strictly limited teaching their secrets to anyone but the most worthy of apprentices. Those apprentices had to had the most serious dedication to their interests and would likely do menial tasks for much of their apprenticeships just to be in the presence of their mentors. That hard-won mastery is gone in the digital age. That’s not to say that practice and dedication aren’t still necessary for mastery today, but the barriers are largely removed. As a result, we are now encountering a generation of self-appointed “masters” in arenas wherein previously the title of that position of mastery implied respectability. Again, old order thinking predisposes us to believe that if a self-declared master online grants himself a title we should presume he “did the work” to earn that title.

For all this easy access to competency, mastery, information-based skills, what we find lacking is real, valuable content. It’s great that we have access to the tool boxes of old order masters, but what do we build with those tools? Thus far, not very much. Usually those tools build rehashes of old order ideas to be sold as something novel in the digital age. When I’m critical of the Success Porn grifters of this digital age, what I’m really drawing attention to is the reselling of old order, tired ideals. Motivational speakers, new age gurus, self-help “coaches” of today, are really only selling the same old order thinking in a more convenient, more easily disseminated digital method. The content is old. The religion is old. The thinking is old, and it’s thinking that is still firmly rooted in an old order understanding of how the world ought to be based on the limited information set available to the people creating it at that time.

The ease of the digital new order makes us lazy. For all of the access we have now, for all of the information we have, we’ve never been more unmotivated. The process of mastery, the process and dedication needed to attain it, used to contribute to the creative impetus required to use it. Today we’ve never been less creative in our thinking. It’s why we keep returning to old order stories and movie franchises. We just retell the same old order thinking stories in more advanced and colorful ways with the technology of the digital order. But we just repeat ourselves; or we add some social justice twist to stories that were timeless because the art took precedence over any other consideration.

The Red Pill

In the earliest days of the seduction community the forums that sprang up around men looking to get laid was an extension of this old order vs. new order thinking. The internet and conversation forums dedicated to Game, pickup artistry and dating were a predictable application of attempting to solve old order problems (getting laid) with new order information. Men in particular wanted to figure this out, so, as expected, they would coalesce and compare notes across the planet, each sharing their personal experiences with other men. Then further combining that experience with data available from psychology, anthropology, sociology, evolutionary theory and dozens of other related fields of study to provide a global consortium of men with a more accurate database on intersexual dynamics than they’d ever had available to them in any prior era.

Up to this point (I estimate 2001 or so) men had to figure out the dynamics between themselves and what women were becoming since the Sexual Revolution. And most of that “figuring it out” was based on limited information, based on old order thinking. The old challenges of understanding ourselves doesn’t change, but the way we think about those challenges is in constant flux; and that changing has become increasingly more rapid in a global age.

With that change comes conflict with the old order thinking. In terms of the Red Pill, old order thinking manifests itself as Purple Pill regressiveness. Often times the new Red Pill awareness conflicts with the old order thinking that present generations have based their existences on. They refuse to acknowledge the data we have access to now that we didn’t when they were forming beliefs and ideals that would form their personalities and ego-investments. Yes, there are certain timeless truths, but we must hold “common sense” to the same scrutiny we would apply to new ideas in this age. When I identify a person or a concept as Purple Pill this is what I mean by it; usually, it is an old order ideal being force fit to conform to align with new order data. 

We desperately want our belief sets, our ideals, to be confirmed by the information we have access to in the digital age. Sometimes this does happen and we feel validated for it, but more often we see that our efforts in building a life according to the old social contract or an old order way of understanding ourselves and the world is invalidated. And this is what either builds us up anew or forces us into stasis in our lives.

The Red Pill has been redefined in many ways on many occasions over the past 20 years to fit the sensibilities of people who really want to give a new validity to whatever pet ideology they think it should apply to. Most of these people have no business calling anything “red pill”, but they’re attracted to the concept as a proxy term for ’truth’. 

Initially, in the earliest days of the SoSuave Forums, we used the Matrix analogy to describe how a guy who still believed and still behaved according to his old order understanding (his conditioning) of intersexual dynamics was stuck in his ignorance. The old way of thinking about women – that up to that point was based on limited and largely inaccurate information – was still what a Blue Pill guy would accept as reality. It required a guy to “unplug” himself from that old order-informed way of thinking and transition to a new awareness of intersexual dynamics. Hopefully that guy could live a better life (even save his own life) by using the information in that new order tool box. Thus, we have the Red Pill analogy, but what the Red Pill really describes is exactly the casting off of an old order ignorance in favor of a new order thinking predicated on information we were limited from in prior ages.

We are entering a new, digital Age of Enlightenment. I know a lot of the Manosphere would tell us we’re heading for a new Dark Ages of degeneracy and decay. Enjoy the decline, right? If this is true and we are spiraling to more ignorance, depravity and superstition on a now globalized scale it will be the result of not changing our ways of thinking according to the new data we have access to today. It’s never been easier to become what we want to become today, but with that facility comes lethargy, a lack of creativity and insight, and self-gratifying sedation. Just because we’ve been enlightened by this new, globalizing knowledge-base doesn’t mean we know how to apply it.

If we do enter a decline it will be the result of an inability to unplug from a comforting old order way of thinking.

This essay is from an abridged preview of my upcoming book The Rational Male – Religion.

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Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

ALL families.

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

@The Silver Fox

Cooperation protected us from the elements. Together we can quench any fire. The solution is here. It only need be implemented.

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

And it wont need forcing. Watch and see.

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

People will be able to agree on it. Bit by bit. Whatever it is. The priority is us IN our world. Not only the world itself. Everyone needs to help and it can’t be disjointed from our personal perspective.

kfg
kfg
4 years ago

Fire is caused by oxygen. Dousing them with CO2 puts them out.

kfg
kfg
4 years ago

“So immense and unimaginable are the coming upheavals . . .”

Q: What is this a picture of?
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A: The African seabed.

wahoo Mcdaniels
4 years ago

@The Silver Fox

I have fought wildland fire head on and feel deeply for your plight.

Still Flatearthers all around the globe believe in the religion of global warming

https://www.thegrandsolarminimum.com/what-is-grand-solar-minimum/maunder-minimum/

theasdgamer
4 years ago

@Fox How many people have been arrested so far for lighting bushfires? What have you heard? “Australians are all too aware of the devastation bushfires can cause, which makes the act all the more perplexing. Dr Paul Read, an Australian ecological criminologist, told nine.com.au that only a very small percentage of arsonists are arrested, perhaps as few as one per cent. “Arsonists are usually angry, bitter and of low intelligence – but we only know this from the ones who get caught,” he said. “The clever ones don’t get caught. They can be very versatile criminals, and arson is just… Read more »

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

@Wahoo I’m not hardly posting with no emotional control. I’m merely posting what I am posting. You should read it. How do you know my emotions by what I write? And how do you know how much control I have over my emotions? You don’t. You are using the fundamental attribution error. Which has nothing to do with man’s need to become more emotionally available is a myth. I know that and don’t believe in emotionally being available for the sake of being emotionally available. @Yolo Not sure what’s going on in “their” camp, but in regards to emotional availability,… Read more »

wahoo Mcdaniels
4 years ago

“I’m not hardly posting with no emotional control.”

Was that a Freudian Slip?

Does a double negative still make a positive?

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

Yeah, don’t talk about the ideas.

Not hardly is a hardy colloquialism that has been in English a long time and is likely to stay, but it might be considered out of place in serious writing. Because hardly means barely or almost not, adding the modifier not creates a double negative. Taken literally, not hardly would mean definitely or very. In practice, though, not hardly means the same as hardly.

What are we going to do about SJF?

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

Yollo, My last on Donovan cause I have better things to use my thumbs for. Donovan is smart enough ( not intelligent enough, there’s a difference) to understand the consumers of his blather. So, he panders up to a point, but he does believe most of the shit he says. He’s no authority on anything at all short of his own opinions, based on shit that I do not understand how a man his age hasn’t sorted out by now. Lol, he’s one of those ” I’m speshul ” motherfuckers, until he’s not. Or, he’s pretending. Whatever. Because he’s blessed… Read more »

Huh?
Huh?
4 years ago

“Cooperation protected us from the elements. Together we can quench any fire. The solution is here. It only need be implemented.”

This brain washed dude writes like he’s the ghost of David Koresh.

You need help.

Huh?
Huh?
4 years ago

“Cooperation protected us from the elements. Together we can quench any fire. The solution is here. It only need be implemented.”

This dude writes like he’s a brain washed David Koresh.

Get help.

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

@Huh?

I bet you miss the days that you could admire the people you play up to.

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

Want is not my curse. I may not want what you want, but I will fight with all I have for your right to want it.

fleezer
fleezer
4 years ago

“And now they’re pissed off and starting new fake accounts to get past their banning. ” amazing that a guy could comment here, which means he probably reads at least some, which means he knows about strategy, which means he knows he’s wasting his time, which means he’s full tilt wrt op the digital age means you can be anybody like, if somebody advise that you need x service, just study x service provider, his world, rules, tools, skills, etc and become him and then diy with digital you can do this over and over and over for change you… Read more »

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

@fleezer

With respect, I think the only reason you should punch someone in the face is because they need it to feel alive. I agree with the rest that you have said.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
4 years ago

Blaximus
Yollo, My last on Donovan cause I have better things to use my thumbs for.

Why don’t we see more of these around?
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theasdgamer
4 years ago

I see many thirty something guys when I’m out who are so blue pill. I try to plant a seed in them. Last Sat. I chatted up one married guy who was out with two buddies and I asked him if he’d danced with any girls. Nope. I suggested that it might be in his interest to dance and flirt with women even if he wasn’t going to follow through. Another guy had an issue with me flirting with his wife. The guy and his wife were out in a group of six. The wife had asked me to dance… Read more »

Coolio
Coolio
4 years ago

Some of you guys need psychiatric assistance.

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

@Blax

Even so, he helped me through a slump. If you can believe it. I think anyone can learn new tricks. You need not reply. I see you differently now.

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

@asd

Ehhh, not exactly. Everything that is happening is happening on a backdrop. Know the backdrop. Putting a guy through that can shake just about anything loose. As long as you have his best interests in mind I think it’s fine. He might not though.

Huh?
Huh?
4 years ago

“I think anyone can learn new tricks.”

Learn the trade, not the tricks.

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

@Huh?

Welcome.

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

@The Silver Fox

Also, any bullshit solutions will be weighed and dismissed. Per the usual.

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

@KFG Q: What is this a picture of? A: The African seabed. The Matterhorn reminds me of Maslow’s Self Actualization and his hierarchy of needs. The bottom 80% is soft European sedimentary rock and the top 20% is African tectonic plate metamorphic gneiss. It’s harder at the top. According to Maslow, we have five categories of needs: physiological, safety, love, esteem, and self-actualization. In this theory, higher needs in the hierarchy begin to emerge when people have sufficiently satisfied the previous need. Meaningfulness and not nihilism resides in the upper echelon above the 80%. And guess what? Late in life,… Read more »

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago
theasdgamer
4 years ago

Yollo, both those guys were AFCs. Armed with red pill knowledge, it’s not hard to read the situation. Those guys have lousy reading skills. I’m not in the habit of spewing nonsense when I’m out in public. (I might troll Blax for fun, tho, hehe.) Someone who can read people can figure that out.

I was just out to have a good time and decided to sow some red pill seeds when some blue pill soil presented itself. Maybe if they hear red pill ideas a few times, they might start to consider it.

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
4 years ago

The best part about this societal decline is that the level of effort required to be among the best is lower than ever. Just show up, make a real effort, and you’re got a leg up on all the competition almost immediately.

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

@asd

Yea don’t know how else to tell you this but, shitting on other men because you can just drives the attitude of scarcity up. You aren’t helping them out at all, just using them as target practice. When and if they decide to read the material, how could they possibly attribute the desire to do so from you?

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

@Sun Wukong

Then it really isn’t competition is it? I don’t like when a chick is with me because she feels like nobody better will ever come along. That’s not quite the same as having the people around you admire you and see hope and strength flowing from you.

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

“The best part about this societal decline is that the level of effort required to be among the best is lower than ever. Just show up, make a real effort, and you’re got a leg up on all the competition almost immediately.”

Lots of truth right there.

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

Lol. My avatar is all fucked up.

Yeah, I understand Rollo.

theasdgamer
4 years ago

@Yollo “Yea don’t know how else to tell you this but, shitting on other men because you can just drives the attitude of scarcity up.” What, now flirting with someone’s wife is somehow sh*tting on their husbands? I’m not talking about grabbing t1ts or @$$. In a bar, dancing close with a girl for a short time isn’t any big deal. The girl is already gonna know about the guy’s insecurity. It’s not like I’m telling her something she hasn’t seen before. There’s flirting because you’re having a good time and just being friendly, which is a far cry from… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
4 years ago

Blaximus
My avatar is all fucked up.

It’s perfect!

theasdgamer
4 years ago

I’m putting the following up for discussion–it’s based on my experience last Sat. night.

Hug length on meeting a girl at a bar can determine how a girl who is just an acquaintance feels about you…some generalities that might not apply to all girls you know…

1 sec or A-frame…she really is just hugging to demean you

2 sec…a polite duration

3-4 sec…a friendly hug

5-6 sec…maybe she likes your cologne

7 sec…you’re getting into the “I’ll go home with you if you want” territory

Anybody notice anything about hug length?

rugby11
rugby11
4 years ago

1917 what a picture

War

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

@Asd

But YOU were the insecure little bitch at one point. How come ‘I” don’t have to call anyone names?

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Just here for the new avatars.

[Rolls dice]

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

I got zoo plankton.

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

@ASDGAMER I’m sorry. I take back EVERYTHING I said to you. Here’s why. Flirting is a needful part of the modern(All time?) landscape. Flirting encourages women to go out and get a beer and possibly a man who will treat her well. Flirting is just a transfer of energy in the form women like. The type of women that like to go out already feel protected and seen by other men in their lives. NOT NECESSARILY husbands or lovers, etc. The fear of the opposite of that is the attention cartel i mentioned earlier. I’m sorry asd. I wasn’t looking… Read more »

Huh?
Huh?
4 years ago

“Alright, so here’s the deal: ” Sit down you rubes! “Over the last 4 days I’ve picked through a metric ton of spam, sock puppet comments, repeated autistic trolling and more bots than I can keep track of in the comments. ” Feel sorry for me. I slave for you ungrateful bastards and look what I get in return. “I’ve had to ban some accounts.” There’s mischief afoot. Opposition=trolling. “I’ve had delete some nonsense posts, but ultimately I’ve come to one conclusions – It’s a waste of my time.” I’m not sanitizing content. I’m maintaining RP purity by not wasting… Read more »

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

@Huh?

You could have done other things. You didn’t need to sockpuppet him. But you did. Asshole. But sure, HE’S throwing a tantrum.

Fuck you man. When you can handle that people are people, your time with them will improve. We aren’t your spaghetti.

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

@Huh?

“I’m outta here! I never liked you tools anyway.”

Somehow I doubt we’ve seen the last of you.

Huh?
Huh?
4 years ago

“Somehow I doubt we’ve seen the last of you.”

Somehow you misunderstand the narrative.

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

@Huh?

Careful, the abyss is staring back at you….

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

7 sec…you’re getting into the “I’ll go home with you if you want” territory

LOL. You are getting into the this guy must be gay territory if you aren’t escalating this…

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

PSA – faster way to add italics asterisk before then after, no spaces…

[bows]

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

i guess two asterisks fore and aft are bold

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

and this > at the beginning of each line is a blockquote. Nothing after… How about that?

this is a blockquote

test of blockquote

https://www.ricksteves.com/travel-forum/understanding-markdown

DeeLam
DeeLam
4 years ago

Hi Rollo, would you be willing to make this a paid subscription account like Patreon? Do you think that would alleviate the bots and spams to where us guys really enjoy your content can talk civilly? Just curious.

Huh?
Huh?
4 years ago

“And be accused of grifting AND and echo chamber where trolls can’t run free? Perish the thought.

Someone should go inform InsanityBites that she’s now free to spew shit all over the comments again.”
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This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but with a whimper.

Coolio
Coolio
4 years ago

What’s up with the goofy pictures next to everybody’s name ?

Somebody had one too many acid trips in College.

Coolio
Coolio
4 years ago

The acid trips induce an Age of Enlightenment.

Huh?
Huh?
4 years ago

Coolio,

You feel.a breeze in here too? Chilly.

Marko Ramius
Marko Ramius
4 years ago

Rollo, it might be a good idea to pause the comments section for two days, and think about the best way forward. Emotions are running too high to make good decisions just now.
And, my own experience is that when religious dispute enters into a system, emotions escalate, not to the benefit of any of the participants. After Luther’s nailing, there were several hundred years of exceptionally nasty wars.
“Nailing the book to the fucking church door” suggests emotional escalation.
Rational Male is great — let’s find a way to get back to it.

Huh?
Huh?
4 years ago

“I’ve picked through a metric ton of spam, sock puppet comments…”

To Rollo, Master of Sock Puppets.

https://youtu.be/xnKhsTXoKCI

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

HRC

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1219606749470187521

Sisterhood Uber Alles…

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

@asd

Well I take back ALMOST everything.

Coolio
Coolio
4 years ago

Earlier Comment :

Looks, Affluence, Game
What’s most important for a guy?

The Rational Male • Live Q&A #11
Tomorrow at 6pm EST

Correct Answer :

Perception.

O.B.I.T.
O.B.I.T.
4 years ago

EXPERTS: NEW MYSTERY AVATARS
GIANT CORONAVIRUS BUGS?

“Cute but Deadly,” Researchers Warn,
Fearing Possible Red-Pill Resistance

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

@rugby

Jeez what an article.

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

Male Space Invaders

O.B.I.T.
O.B.I.T.
4 years ago

Appropriately enough my new av bears some resemblance to a classic Outer Limits invader — cooked up by Earth scientists to frighten humans into compliance

http://wearecontrollingtransmission.blogspot.com/2011/01/architects-of-fear.html

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

@rugby

I think Lansky is mistaken about acceptance though. Simply put, not everyone agrees with him. If he can’t accept that, I foresee suicide in his future.

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

Maybe Lansky can fund is own space expedition to find a place where he need not be bothered with whoever doesn’t just accept him like he likes.

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

@O.B.I.T.

Bwahaha. I got plankton though. 99% hot gas.

theasdgamer
4 years ago

“LOL. You are getting into the this guy must be gay territory if you aren’t escalating this…”

Do you escalate on 5s?

theasdgamer
4 years ago

Sentient To follow up on my last comment… There was one early 20s broad spinner butterface who played cuddleslut when she danced with me. I wasn’t drunk, so no escalation. She was wanting to feel wood when she cuddled. Validation seeker. I got lots of rejections from pretty girls. I should have started with the 5s and worked up to the 6s rinse and repeat up the ladder. The married broad whose husband created drama was a 5…20 lbs. overweight with a 6 face. 30 something, too. Alcohol would have been needed even if she were single. The hugger was… Read more »

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

@asd

Did you read my earlier comment to you? The one where I took back most of what I commented upon concerning your flirting? A simple yes or no will do. You can say more if you want.

theasdgamer
4 years ago

Yes, I saw your comment, Yollo.

Coolio
Coolio
4 years ago

Looks like you’ve gotta pay somebody some money to get a special picture next to your name.

Otherwise – you get a cartoon character based on somebody’s latest hallucination.

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

@Coolio

Jesus fucking Christ you almost sound civil. Perhaps you DO have a point and I’m hallucinating.

Coolio
Coolio
4 years ago

Yollo. At least I look like a Pac Man Character.

You look like a Gay Christmas Tree.

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

@Coolio

Merry Krimbas.

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

Nice senseless, ridiculous, nonsensical, foolish, fatuous, unreasonable, irrational, stupid, asinine, absurd, simpleminded, harebrained, brainless, featherbrained, empty-headed, vacuous, muddleheaded, illogical, ludicrous, preposterous, inane, giddy, frivolous, trivial, shallow, puerile, birdbrained, air-headed, and dippy avatars… And you can’t figure to use your usual Avatar? But seriously, the silence is deafening on what is going on here. And you might want to buy a clue. Do any of you, including Rollo have any questions for me? Spoofing? Sockpuppeting? YGBFSM. I would never. Including any part I have in the Liminal Space shit-show going on here–(the quality of ambiguity or disorientation that occurs in the… Read more »

Coolio
Coolio
4 years ago

SJF. What are you babbling about ? You sound drunk.

At least you have a normal picture next to your name.

The rest of us look like Space Aliens.

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

On a blog or forum: Comment with content. Share ideas. Don’t do personal attacks with someone you disagree with, randomly.

If-I-Fell
If-I-Fell
4 years ago

Did theasdgamer really break two of his teeth? I don’t know. It could be the real theasdgamer and he could be telling the truth or he could have made it up. Or, it could be an imposter, a bot or the blog’s author posting under a pseudonym. It’s an anonymous forum. Should I care? — maybe yes, maybe no. Does it matter? Probably not. SJF deserves an award for persistence. I had a similar epiphany that the red pill community was concerned with trying to get back to zero—the starting line. Besides, who wants to hear that a marriage can… Read more »

Coolio
Coolio
4 years ago

It’s impossible to take someone seriously when they look like they came out of a box of Cocoa Krispies.

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

Since we are talking religion. Just a heads up: If you really want to understand the Old Order in regards to Religion and Christianity and where the Church went wrong in The New Dis-Order, you should look into what Doestoyevski wrote in his novel The Brother’s Karamozov. And in particular Book 5, Chapter 5 of that novel. It was about the Church wrestling with the freewill of it’s parishoners. Christ wanted to give Freewill. The Church couldn’t abide by that. Because it knew people didn’t want that. Any more than RSD PUA knew their acolytes didn’t want to actually do… Read more »

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

And here is the YouTube for those of you that can’t or don’t like read the narrative written out in words. You can listen to it on your commute to work: https://youtu.be/om6HcUUa8DI I posted this stuff on this blog a couple years ago. I originally red The Brothers Karamozov in 1979 or so. The Brothers Karamazov is a passionate philosophical novel set in 19th-century Russia, that enters deeply into the ethical debates of God, free will, and morality. It is a spiritual, theological drama of moral struggles concerning faith, doubt, judgment, and reason, set against a modernizing Russia, with a… Read more »

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

“Besides, who wants to hear that a marriage can be successful, or that having/building a soulmate is possible. Soulmate is a subjective noun. I prefer the noun: spouse. And investing in a spouses value. Rather than seek utility. Neither as a slave or with Fleezer licentiousness (no offence Fleezer, I admire your tack). And I like Sentient’s answer to why get married to a spouse: Because you get to have her. Soulmate (myth) implies fusion with another and that can devolve into co-dependence. Watch out for needing validation that someone else needs to be your soulmate. Take for instance you… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
4 years ago

If-I-Fell
I had a similar epiphany that the red pill community was concerned with trying to get back to zero—the starting line.

My 80’s vidja habit continues.

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

https://youtu.be/KnGo6Qm0Wt8 The Doestoyevski Thesis: The Grand Inquisitor tells Christ that he cannot allow him to do his work on Earth, because his work is at odds with the work of the Church. The Inquisitor reminds Christ of the time, recorded in the Bible, when the Devil presented him with three temptations, each of which he rejected. The Grand Inquisitor says that by rejecting these three temptations, he guaranteed that human beings would have free will. Free will, he says, is a devastating, impossible burden for mankind. Christ gave humanity the freedom to choose whether or not to follow him, but… Read more »

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

I had a similar epiphany that the red pill community was concerned with trying to get back to zero—the starting line…

Yes.

The red pill cheat codes are in the bottom 80% of the Matterhorn mountain. Nothing wrong with that.

Come on, let us always, in merit, judge on a Bell Curve, in a group of males.

The bottom 80% of the Maslow hierarchy is the get back to zero.

In my life, I’ve always felt that 93.5% was at honors level. And the starting line.

My buddies have a high standard in out tribe.

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

SJF

And I like Sentient’s answer to why get married to a spouse: Because you get to have her.

Well that’s true but not what I said. I said I got married because I wanted a Wife.

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

See how things get misunderstood and summarily reinterpreted?

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Came across this gem last night A Face in the Crowd circa 1957

It’s being pushed in regard to Trump… Great example of Alpha in action.

Plus – kryptonite
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Amazing, looking back… this is the exact type that kills me.

Anyhow.. a little snippet. Lonesome Rhodes, on his way to get a Mexican divorce to marry his mistress, falls for a 17 yo majorette. And does what an Alpha does. whatever he wants to do, whenever he wants to do it

Enjoy

O.B.I.T.
O.B.I.T.
4 years ago

Wow, that’s Lee Remick? 1970s/80s ultra-classy WASP-woman? She looks like Tuesday Weld there.

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

“Well that’s true but not what I said. I said I got married because I wanted a Wife.”

So what you are saying is just any generic wife, as opposed to her? Right?

For utility, don’t mind her value, right? A release, if you will? A generational utility.

Is that what you also expect of your son-in-law’s demeanor?

I married my wife because she seemed to be the right one to get at the time. Same goes for my son-in-law choosing to marry my daughter.

Strange, how that Old Order is not suppose to work anymore…

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

What is ” utility “?

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

SJF

So what you are saying is just any generic wife, as opposed to her? Right?

Don’t be obtuse. Why you choose to marry is it’s own question. To whom is another.

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

“What is ” utility” “?

Well, when used as an adjective, it means useful, especially through being able to perform several functions. Functional rather then attractive (value).

When used as a noun, it is the state of being useful, profitable or beneficial. Or an organization supplying the community with electricity, gas, water or sewerage.

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

“Why you choose to marry is it’s own question. To whom is another.”

Fair enough.

kfg
kfg
4 years ago

“kryptonite”

Just about from the moment I attained self awareness. In no small part because seeing her doing personal appearances always left me with the impression that as a person she was poise and class that went clear down to the bone.

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