21 Convention Dates Cancellation

I’ve got some bad news. Due to some unfortunate misunderstandings and internal conflict within the 21 Convention organization I will no longer be speaking at the Poland or the Orlando dates this year. I have been either been unfairly maligned by this organization through a campaign of disinformation or through some simple misunderstandings and have been cut from the list of speakers.

I’ve invested a lot of time and energy into seeing this convention become the Red Pill Summit I’ve always said the Manosphere needs, but I am no longer welcome within the group. In spite of this I still believe the organization is a positive and needed element of the ‘sphere and I have no ill feelings for anyone in the organization or the speakers.

Furthermore, the Red Man Group podcast will be dissolved. As of this writing I’ve been locked out of the channel I helped create along with our other co-hosts (Donovan Sharpe and Hunter Drew) and apparently the decision has been made to disband the channel. I’m not entirely sure. I will still continue to produce my own channel (Red Pill 101) on YouTube and it’s possible I may collaborate with others in the future, but for now I don’t know how that will look.

This is a very unfortunate turn of events since it means I will not be attending the Poland convention or the Orlando event. If you purchased a ticket through my affiliate link and you no longer wish to attend you’ll have to see the 21 Convention’s terms of service. I am posting this announcement and will be removing my affiliate links from this blog and twitter so there will be no confusion.

Again, I’m sorry this is the case. My reputation and motives about my association with Anthony Johnson, RMG and the 21 Convention have been attacked either in error or as a result of a campaign of disinformation that’s been fomenting for some time now both within and without the organization.

I have no regrets or ill will for any speaker or the time and efforts I put into helping the 21 Convention grow. I hope in the future that the parties involved will be able to see the error in their decisions to cut me out of the team. There are a lot of strong personalities in the ‘sphere and that’s as it should be. We need the freedom to disagree and air our differences in an open debate. I still hope this is possible, but for now I’m not allowed in that forum.

Know this, I have only ever done my best to ensure that this event has been a great, life-saving experience for men. My interests in the convention were always to save men and be accessible to them. That will never change.

Comments will be open for this thread.

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Edit: June 5, 2019

The 21 Convention terms of service stated since 2014 is as follows:

All ticket sales are final. All speakers subject to change at the discretion of 21 Studios or the speaker.

More information on terms of service can be found here.

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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The more this drama goes on, the more it’s apparent that money is not the primary motivator for these guys at this point, it’s all ego/arrogance and sunk emotional costs, that’s the blue pill the way. I see perfectly where these guys are coming from it’s going to cost them in the end/already is. To accept the truth of this world(red pill) is pretty hard, your old self dies and a new man is reborn. However, the new man is at odds with his society/culture/his religion and sometimes even his family, he finally realizes he is alone. That realization is… Read more »

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The comments on TRM and the 21 ‘Keystone Cops’ Convention, twitter feeds have had me busting a gut for days. Absolute comedy gold.

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At what point do those who value masculinity finally tell men who have been in prison that their life path is proof positive that they lack subject matter expertise on being a good man?

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Foxguy

That’s the thread winner there. Comments closed!

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If you try and tell the badass masculine dude’s anything you will be blocked faster than the high school drama queen blocks a hater… 😂😂💪💪

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max landis

lol

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“Cortes is writing like some 70 year old Boomer to “You young men! ManUP!”, ”

I may owe Dr. Peterson an apology after all this. I mean at least his guys got a clean room out of the deal.

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Blax “Dream” imus
I’m here to bury ceasar, and instruct men in how to live a fuller and more satisfying life through badminton and clay spinning.

I am very interested! When is your next badminton seminar, and do you offer online coaching?

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” . . . the new man is at odds with his society/culture/his religion and sometimes even his family, he finally realizes he is alone.”

Fortunately for me I’m pretty good company.

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What’s most damning and unforgivable from the 21 Clowns is a complete absence of wit…

Here’s a Twisdom tweet for ya

“Never trust anyone who lacks wit. For realz. [And buy my product]”

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Alexander Grace just got demonetized. He made a video basically crying…Rollo was right again! Grace admits he changed his tone to avoid the YouTube police.

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I remember when people were upset that YT videos were being monetized.

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So when ADJ’s event gets negative press, he’s got nobody to blame but himself from now on, right? Or at least rollo is off the hook. ADJ will find somebody else to blame.

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I assume Rollo and all of you guys know of Bitchute, right? Stop using YT. The parent company has openly admitted to censoring views. Their speech-to-text software converts all videos to text and then scans for “problematic” language, and treats the video according to the most trendy censorship rules.

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Funny… they meme about Rollo being a “Fraudfather”… but they haven’t offered refunds or discounts to anyone who signed up before the lineup changed.

“Ignore my documented bait and switch and just listen to my words…. buy my product.” — Internet-only “Brands”

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lol this is too funny I had to postcomment image

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Re: “FraudFather” – my opinion: an awkward attempt to drag things into the legal arena. Revenue must be so far off projection that 21Con is seeing a suit (or countersuit) as a cash flow bolster. Sad.

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@Palma Sailor:

While defamation is a necessary component of libel, as a general rule defamation in and of itself is not actionable in the US, as we don’t consider reputation, in and of itself, a thing of inherent value. It’s all about the Benjamins.

And so even if the defamation rises to libel, which is the most difficult and costly tort to establish here, there is little recourse other than quantifiable losses.

Which in practice means that people like Rollo who do not have a considerable amount of income dependent on their reputations pretty much just have to roll with the dis.

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” . . . an awkward attempt to drag things into the legal arena.”

There ya go. They’re trying to goad Rollo into doing or saying something actionable. Tread carefully.

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You guys are killing me with the “Dream” business… lol

speaking of Benjamins… Tate going full Ponzi scheme from the comfort of Romania…

https://twitter.com/OfWudan/status/1141073236618350597

“Twitter is full of bullshitters.

I put my money where my mouth is.

My war room members get 5X the membership fee back in free food and drink anytime we meet.

Cam pupils going from 0 to 10k a month instantly.

My crypto traders having 50k months.”

and Bobby Dino wants to take you on a date!

https://twitter.com/RealBobbyDino/status/1141025874570960896

“Wanna hang out in Poland?

Catch the sights, have some drinks and a few laughs.

Get a ticket.

I’ll make it happen.
👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻

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He lives there. All over his feed.

He is having the next War Room conference in Transylvania. With all of ADJ’s former clients no doubt.

Be careful who you let in the henhouse Dream…!

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@Palma Sailor:

Yup. The problem is that the positions are asymmetrical. Anthony’s reputation, however little he may deserve it, is attached to more cash flow.

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Up-thread said Whaaaaaaaaaat!
Blaximus is only 5% heterosexual:
“Fact 95% of all the lays I’ve had in life were not chicks…”
The sentence went on, TLDR.

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I would love to hear guys views on this, even Rollo’s, but I suspect some of the 21 guys went red pill in the head (briefly) but now want to return to their blue pilled or purple pilled realities. They are so angry at Rollo right now, particularly, because they blame him for crushing their blue pilled Disney idealism which they sat on for decades. They resent Rollo so much, because they simply can’t entirely kill the idealistic blue pill. Rollo’s writings helped open their eyes, but they didn’t follow through with his instructions.

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Telling the ~116 men who showed up in 2017 and the ~220 men who showed up in 2018 they were defrauded is certainly a bold marketing campaign to “pimp dem tickets”.

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“Fortunately for me I’m pretty good company” Damm straight, Rollo’s blog is really the only place I’ve found that confronts some of the hard truths head on. Despite the drama sometimes, I do get insight from yall much more often than not. The Red Pill is headed for multiple splits ,much like Christianity has split , there will be different sections. These 21con guys have never accepted the truth of the red pill, it just changes you and when you truly accept you realize you have much to learn, it humbled me. I was very arrogant in certain areas of… Read more »

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“the key is the non-monetization by Rollo.”

Purity of motive. Heartiste the same. I’ll admit I was worried for Rollo at times over the last few month’s. And said so. That picture with the Lambo was chilling.

He’s coming back stronger and harder no doubt.

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@Foxguy:

I first said that line when I was about 25, to a girl who, upon discovering my attraction to single-handed blue water sailing, asked, “But won’t you get terribly lonely?”

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@Foxguy:

I first said that line when I was about 25, to a girl who, upon discovering my attraction to single-handed blue water sailing, asked, “But won’t you get terribly lonely?”

Had trouble keeping her out of the boat after that, did you?

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““I didn’t realize that I had been raped consistently and deliberately by this man for two years until today, when I wrote it down.”” – “Julie” What would Anthony Dream Johnson say? “Describing the spectrum of abuse that she experienced during their relationship, Julie wrote, “[Landis would] bring up his hand and fake that he was going to hit me, and laugh when I flinched. He’d constantly threaten to break up with me, speak about his ‘prospects’ to me and openly flirt in front of me. On multiple occasions he’d refer to me as his ex-girlfriend in front of girls… Read more »

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https://twitter.com/OfWudan/status/1137484706369458183

$1,000 an hour for personal consults.

Ricih has this beat.

at this rate the “manosphere’ will self destruct before year end.

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@Sentient, I hear you on Rollo, you are who you hang out with over the long term. I was warning on these comments about something being off with ADJ also, I cut Rollo some slack as you can tell some of them made bonds with each other after all this drama, we should all note how hard it is to actually process and digest the Red Pill. Rollo’s legacy currently when I look at it is pretty big, he had an actual real positive impact on men myself included. To tarnish such a legacy for money would be very regrettable.… Read more »

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Just found out about the AJ tweet. All I can say is what the fuck. Even if AJ were to utterly despise Rollo, this is a screamingly horrendous showcasing of no sense whatsoever and terrible business acumen. I’ve only been reading dedicated manosphere shit for like what, a month now, and even I can tell that Rollo and his message is the single largest and most important pillar to this? It just makes no fucking sense from any reasonable standpoint, it’s baffling. How in the flying fuck would this kid think this is a good idea? And why would such… Read more »

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Okay so I found one source that supposedly explains the whole situation. This is clearly quite biased against Rollo and it’s obvious there are many points in here that are easily debatable, but it should give grander context, if no one’s posted it yet:

https://tinyurl.com/ y2sp87r8 (remove the space)

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I am just going to go off topic for a moment. My stomach muscles need a break from the constant laughing. I like to look at Global trends for the upcoming year. A global trend that did grab my attention, wrote in a ‘no big deal’ way, as part of a marketing companies executive summary, is what I shall leave here below: Women Empowerment: Around 30 of the Fortune Global 500 Companies will be headed by women in 2020. Women will have more decisive power over finance and business development gaining more prominence in the boardroom and at the family… Read more »

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@Wildside: Yepp, it is everywhere. My gf was on a jobinterview yesterday, where the HR woman explicitely told her that she wants to hire a woman. When she asked why, she literally couldn’t say anything. The balance is already ok (50% female). It’s just “her instincts tell her so”. Of course if it would be the other way around it would be a scandal. On the other hand, the fact that “Goods, services and advertisements will be specifically targeted to women.” doesn’t bother me at all. It is like that since at least the 90s (and probably for centuries, but… Read more »

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@HF. That is really good your girlfriend questioned the interviewer. You are right, if the gender dynamic was flipped the interviewer would be fired. I agree about goods, services and advertisements being targeted at women. I never used to notice when I was in my blue-pill reality. It was just part of the norm. I notice it now and I just roll my eyes. My friend just got back from a stag party celebration, out of the country. He thinks TRP/TRM is a cult and I am brainwashed. As do the majority of the public. I have previously talked to… Read more »

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I don’t talk to friends about red pill or TRM explicitely, I’m afraid of what you experience: that it will be dismissed because it’s a cult.

I just drop a few truths here and there to test the waters. And even though most of them admits one or two uncomfortable truths, but I don’t think any of them is ready for a full-on confrontation with reality.

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That’s not debate or argumentation, tyger. You’re sperging out spastically with insults and rage because you have a hate boner for Rollo, for some reason. If I owned this blog I wouldn’t waste my time responding to you either, and of all the things to respond to, even if I were to do so, you’d be extremely low on the list of priorities. A crazy man screaming outside your house isn’t a gentlemen sitting in a chair calmly laying out well reasoned points.

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Is ADJ bipolar?

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I’d say this split was blown out of proportion. I’ve read the 15-page doc ABJ put out and saw the charade that followed. In my opinion, A guest speaker should be allowed to have private interviews, or any interviews outside of a conference agenda or scheduled talks. Let’s suppose that I am at a Trump fundraising or convention. I can, on my own (should I wish) give an interview on CNN /whatever MSN wants to see me. You saw that with Scaramucci and others. The only restriction (self-imposed) should be not to talk badly of other speakers. That is logical,… Read more »

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@ Youngmaster commenter from above saying “Okay so I found one source that supposedly explains the whole situation. This is clearly quite biased against Rollo and it’s obvious there are many points in here that are easily debatable, but it should give grander context, if no one’s posted it yet.”

Dear,

Let us see this horrible Gollum who loves this crazy ass confusion and his Machiavellian moves and tricks and how he profits and schemes behind the scenes.

The “Illimitable Mondo Duke” (IM) aka the Gollum of the Manosphere.

https://giphy.com/gifs/eg9vbr4S7GbKlXMRsZ

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@MC: your viewpoint doesn’t really address the core of what happened or why. Speakers being interviewed is totally superfluous to the events that mattered. The actual timeline of events can be seen here: https://twitter.com/BreatheTYB/status/1137865518537498625 To make a long story short, Anthony Johnson has cut out all the redpill guys from his convention. The Nellie Bowles thing was used as an excuse, long after the fact, to push out Rollo and unfairly smear him. The 15 page document doesn’t corroborate any of ADJ’s claims, and the insane things that guy has said and done since point to an unstable sociopathic individual.… Read more »

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@Youngmaster commenter above.

I’ve read the Twatter thread by Itsoktoknow you’ve linked to.(in that thread the accountholder complains he was blocked by RT.That TWTR account now it appears to be abandoned.)

Interesting.

It shows how deviant this clown https://giphy.com/gifs/eg9vbr4S7GbKlXMRsZ really is. At first (months ago), he was saying Rollo was divorced. In this thread, he says Rollo “might be on a verge of a divorce.” Complete and utter bullshit.

Well, he started these “Twitter wars” of his against the manosphere over 8 months ago and he’s still at it in his echo chamber. This Gollum hopes to win by sowing dissent and confusion.

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Notice the Make Women Great Again hats and the posing at the Wall Street girl statue and Trump Tower. The Usurpers say that they want to add some kind of morality to TRP. TRP is really about what “is”, but The Usurpers have expressed a desire to have a new set of “oughts”, also known as a Third Set of Books. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is%E2%80%93ought_problem Can you get an “ought” from an “is”? Can TRP be used to create a Third Set of Books? This is an idea worthy of exploration. The Purple Pill Usurpers are making the mistake of blending the “is”s… Read more »

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I just had another doozy from another forum. A poster asked what the Red Pill was. I did my best to explain as objectively as I could. I recieved a comment from a blue pill guy:

“Red Pill.men are misogynistic, hate filled rapists”. Nice.

Me: “Misinformed and ignorant. For that reason I wont report you to the moderators for calling me a misogynistic rapist”

People on the internet are fun.

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Palma

Next offer will be to host at a Polish whorehouse… And after that fails a personal BJ from George Bruno…

Pinkies up on the Scotch glasses?

Be interested In Krauser’s post event take on the shit show.

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DDJ says he wants to do a series on Rollo. Sounds laughable. It’s like Red Pill WW1.

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So Rollo, how bout now, ADJ keeps roasting you publicly and attacking your reputation comment image
What do you have to say about that!

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Can you explain why Anthony “Gay Dream” Little Johnson is also still promoting Rollo’s content on his OWN feed?

GTFO

Donations on your honor to:

https://www.autism-society.org/

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Ya can’t spell Patriach without RT.

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ADJ still shooting blanks from twitter.

yawn

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@Wildside: want to meet up when we are both in Warsaw?

I met up with PalmaSailor, he has my contact and he has his contact out publicly, so if you want to meet up pass him yours.

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@IAS. Thanks for the offer man but I have cut Poland out of my trip now. I got a return flight to Kyiv, last week for £65. I am hooking up with a Ukranian girl, staying a few days in Kyiv and then jumping a train to her home city Odesa (no I am not meeting her parents and getting married haha)

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Lol. Love it. These fags are killing themselves.

Predicted Dino would go the whore route. What a transparent fraud. Despicable to use pussy as bait for a “Man’s” conference.

Little Johnson …. Lmfaoacs…! 😂😂😂

There’s your leader… Hey Tigress you wanna know who’s in who’s frame? Lol

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I suspect he’s violating Twitter’s ToS now… Looking to be placed in timeout at least… Should someone complain…

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Even if we take ADJ’s account of the events of last October as absolutely true and correct half of his current ravings make no damned sense.

Except perhaps if they are taken to be the projections of a Secret King. And even then some of it is a bit whack.

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Johnson released a partner addressed e-mail to a private party who then tried to do a rhetorical takedown on a YouTube video? “This is feminine behavior, not how a redpill man acts.”

This is bad business – apparently the May convention was not the success so purported.

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@kfg Even if we take ADJ’s account of the events of last October as absolutely true and correct half of his current ravings make no damned sense. Except perhaps if they are taken to be the projections of a Secret King. And even then some of it is a bit whack. ya know, i generally try to stay out of The Drama ™…lol… buuut… what i’m seeing is a meltdown caused by a complete misperception of reality as applied to a business model… adj (and all those other dudes that sided with him) had an expectation that they could pivot… Read more »

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“… i wonder if he is going to end up with a cat and some box wine…”

If 21 fails he’s got no place to go other than to some job which features the word “boy” in its informal title. He doesn’t impress me as being mentally prepared to cope with that.

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Is ADJ just shit posting, or does he really believes his own hype? Either way his twitter feed is looking like an impotence rage.

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I’m sure it’s a tough way to make a living.
Sort of related…
Title of Athol Kay’s new book: “Nice card Mean card”
So cringe inducing I’d be afraid the title alone with lower the level of testosterone in the house if it were on the bookshelf. I’m sure Athol is great guy, but.

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Is 21Con in bankruptcy territory? A synopsis: 21Con CEO admits the convention has a security problem. Spends the next 20 days rage-tweeting rather than assuring potential customers additional security measures are enacted. 21Con CEO admits one or more speakers are frauds. Spends the next 20 days rage-tweeting rather than assuring potential customers 21Con’s vetting process has been examined and reinforced as needed. 21Con remaining “Speaker Ambassador” tells potential speaker to “GFY”. Spends next 10 days rage-tweeting; 21Con CEO approves Ambassador’s tactic via omission. 23 days to the Poland convention; 121 days to the Orlando convention. How much more value can… Read more »

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Sweet Christ ADJ is as gamma as gamma can fucking be. And worse. The hell is wrong with this kid? Like he flies into bouts of raging lunacy. I even looked into his prior online footprint and found some utterly baffling interactions he had with r/TRP’s mods, and the dude comes off as maximum bipolar. Can’t handle criticism, has such an overblown and bloated narcissistic sense of self worth and importance of opinion that it’s be satirical or ironic coming from a normal person, blows up at the slightest of things, will literally call you gay for not giving him… Read more »

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“Title of Athol Kay’s new book: “Nice card Mean card” . . . So cringe inducing I’d be afraid the title alone with lower the level of testosterone in the house . . .”

And in the final draft the language was changed to be “two standard deviations toward stupid.” I’m sold:

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@SJB: Remember back in 2018 after doing the car commercial cringe with Rich and Rollo? Rich Cooper immediately following that parted ways with The Red Man Group and ADJ, and nobody knew why or what went down. Now we know. Cooper met this guy a single time in person and then immediately knew he wanted nothing to do with him, as Cooper is an actual entrepreneur who knows how to gauge solid or risky investments based on the people he has around him. ADJ makes bad decisions both personally and in business, and Rich recognized this instantly after he met… Read more »

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Even Tony Robbins is having some problems with his seminars.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7158321/Tony-Robbins-makes-followers-drink-gross-shot-fail-tasks.html

When does the tray of “gross shots” get passed around?

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kfg discussing “Nice cahd, mean cahd”…


And in the final draft the language was changed to be “two standard deviations toward stupid.” I’m sold:

But don’t buy it this year. Wait until spring of next year.
In Aypril…because, just because.

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” . . . Rollo talks about female solipsism (“everything around me exists to serve my interests,” technically that’s not solipsism but I see why he uses it) this is a pretty clear cut case of a guy with that mentality.”

Note how strongly so many women are attracted to such warmed over solipsism as The Secret. In using the term Rollo is going to the underlying mindset: My feelings = reality. “Everything around me exists to serve my interests” is a dependent corollary to that.

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Title of Athol Kay’s new book: “Nice card Mean card”
So cringe inducing I’d be afraid the title alone with lower the level of testosterone in the house if it were on the bookshelf. I’m sure Athol is great guy, but.

He surrendered to the FI several years back when he allowed his wife to moderate comments on the Married Man Sex Life (MMSL) site.

The 1970’s called, they want his book title back.

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kfg
Note how strongly so many women are attracted to such warmed over solipsism as The Secret.

And “lucky pennies”. And “mindfulness”. And “life coaching”. And astrology….I continue to be surprised at women’s superstitions.

“Getting in touch with your female side” may not be the best idea, but if a man wants to do so, he definitely should not “get in touch” with Narcissistic or Bipolar Personality Disorder…

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@kfg: “two standard deviations toward stupid.” Very excellent; please accept my applause. @youngmaster: I disagree – the Rich Cooper episode earlier this year seem to revolve around 21Con’s policy of encouraging lawful concealed carry. I think RC may have thought it as risk increase rather than a risk mitigation. There is a hint as such in DDJ’s latest rhetoric attempt – try pausing the video as he scrolls through the e-mail. It’s rather readable. At any rate, I do not know if Cooper had any stake in 21Con but seems to want to have dissociated completely from its CEO thus… Read more »

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@SJB:

I wish I could take credit, but that is an actual quote from the video, extolling it as one of the work’s virtues.

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Do these losers really think that their “line of argument” is convincing to anyone who isn’t already convinced (i.e., the GLO bois)? Gosh, what garbage.

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“two standard deviations toward stupid.”

Talk about “jumping the shark”.

It is an insult to his female audience too, you know, even as it is an insult to his male audience.

And he believed Amazon when they told him his $2.99 price point would be the sweet spot for him to profit on his Kindle price? Next they are going to convince him to pay his readers to accept/read it.

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I wonder to whom this one is addressed . . . a full month after the “damning e-mail”.

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Lol. Dreamfuck that guy.

Edifices aren’t the only thing that turn to ruin over time. We are approaching the time of ” dreamwho? “. His ranting and raving preserved as cautionary tale and a shining example of the exploits of the captain of fuckery.

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So ADJ goes out his way to manufacture his own negative publicity about himself… and then finds other people to blame for it..?

This guy is his own worst enemy.

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“two standard deviations toward stupid.”
Talk about “jumping the shark”.

Maybe he can do a picture book next, with a complimentary box of crayons.

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IDK what’s funnier at this point, Little Johnson’s live tweeted immolation or these roasts of him here at TRM.

Dying 😂

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ddj says he can fuck Rollo in court. That’s pretty amusing too.

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“ddj says he can fuck Rollo in court”

In Bizarro World, where he apparently lives, but isn’t the relevant legal venue.

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Anthony: re: your request for donations: As you lurk here I will tell you this: you shot yourself in the foot by showing complete and utter disdain for your customers. You could have been in front of the situation by offering refunds – e.g. “if you were only attending the convention to meet Rollo I’m sure you would have been impressed by and gathered valuable information from the other speakers. Despite the stellar lineup of speakers, if you feel you do not want to attend in Rollo’s absence, while it’s counter to company policy, I’d be glad to refund the… Read more »

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@Palma – I do think he’s in the red already and, perhaps, is at his credit limit. How much deeper he goes is really up to him; the tact taken thus far has certainly not increased revenue thus the request for donations.

It’s uncomfortable to see him crushed. But the market is the market.

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“It’s uncomfortable to see him crushed. ”

Nah. Typically this type of Gamma dies of self inflicted rope burn or lead poisoning.

I’ll laugh when that’s announced. Culling is culling.

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https://www.instagram.com/p/By_RiuHhGQy/

Lol. I’d bet this clown couldn’t produce a title to a Lambo in his name if his tiny johnson depended on it…

Parody, farce… What’s the next step?

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Discovery would be interesting.

I’d also be interested in seeing how Anthony comes up with a six figure valuation of a months old YT vlogcast channel.

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The idea that anything in DDJ’s inane videos amounts to a “legal case” is a fantasy of his own uninformed imagination. Some of us are actually lawyers, fool.

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In the ongoing active attempt to Balkanize the Red Pill, it’s interesting that both DDJ and Bobby Dino haven’t read any of Rollo’s books. (They said so.)

Have they read any of his blog essays? Perhaps they only heard him speak….

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Palmasailor
Signing an NDA is stepping totally into someone else’s frame.

Yeah, sometimes that is a given. Working on proprietary processes for a megacorp it’s often standard. Anything that has to do with classified government stuff likewise. Rocket science world.

Don’t quite see what is proprietary or Top Secret in this case, so…what’s the motive?

They control what you can and can’t say so you become their bitch.

Oh, right, there it is.

“Proprietary masculinity” or “proprietary PickUp”, whatever.

lol.

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The whole point of the RMG buyout offer to Rollo is to attach an NDA to it. I wouldn’t expect them to part with a penny without that. I can’t advise it.

Over the past weeks I’ve noted that the definition of Real Man enough to associate with 21 corresponds almost exactly with “basic bitch boy.”

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What’s up with the new post being password protected?

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Hey Rollo, I have just received the notification of your last post (via newsletter) but I found out that it’s password protected. How it works? Should we be a Patreon subscriber?

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Most likely he’s just having a selected few proof-read the new post first, and then he will unlock it.

Just wait.

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21Con’s “Speaker Ambassador” and CEO have the same mad customer relations skilz: GFY!

And that’s enough rubbernecking on my part: God Bless and Godspeed 21Con!

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ADJ is still sperging on twitter about rollo. How would that add value to any ADJ event? Looks desperate.

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Interesting that the one aspect of PUA that the remaining 21con folks internalized is Frame. They haven’t broken Frame much during this whole mess. Unfortunately for them, they haven’t internalized the ideas of Congruence and Calibration. Congruence is impossible for them without having much stronger difference on their side of some kind of wrongdoing by Rollo. And this whole thing has been as uncalibrated as negging a sweet 70 year old granny. Also, I found it interesting who is taking advantage of the split here: Bruno plans to interview Michael Foster. The tradconning of 21con continues apace. Really looking forward… Read more »

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Bruno plans to interview Michael Foster.

Interesting. Where did you see that, was it in a tweet?

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Yeah, it’s on Bruno and Fosters timelines on twitter.

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