False Positives

A consistent criticism I’ve received over the years is that the Red Pill is so negative. Why cant the Manosphere just sweeten up? Its truth is definable and self-evident, but why can’t Rollo adjust the ‘tone’? I’ve lived and written through several waves of newcomers to the ‘sphere and in each generation the same want for a ‘kinder, gentler’ Red Pill is always there. The idea is that if you just changed the delivery of the truth it would somehow make it more palatable to a wider audience.

Who’s It For?

I want reiterate here that it’s never been my goal to write for an audience. Whether it’s writing on this blog, my books or when I’m discussing things on various podcasts my only imperative is to convey the information I think is relevant to the topic of intersexual dynamics. My obligation is to picking apart and considering as close as I can get to an objective truth. And I don’t do this by way of some sense of duty to objectivism – it’s just the way that’s always seemed most efficient to me to come to a usable truth. It’s pragmatism on my part, not dedication.

Yes, I know, true objectivism is impossible for human beings. Yes, I also know that even biases we’re unaware of will subconsciously influence our rationality. Spare me the classicist intellectualism, I’ve been at this long enough to have considered all that. But the fact that objectivism is never perfect doesn’t mean we should strive for our best attempt at it – nor replace it with moralism.

I don’t write for an audience. I write about what I see going on around me and I connect dots. Writers today, of all medias, will tell you to “give your readers what they want” if you want to be successful. Writing about uncomfortable truths that rattle people’s cages is counterintuitive to the write-for-success mindset. If you want to sell books, if you want to monetize blogs, if you want to get more channel subscribers you gotta give the folks what they want, right? That’s how most churches work today; cater the message to the congregation if you want the tithe checks to stay consistent.

And always write to appeal to emotions too. People don’t enjoy thinking, but boy do they ever love feeling something – particularly in an age when female emotiveness is the order of the day.

When I began writing regularly it was in a forum environment. We hashed out many ideas and weren’t afraid to get ugly. It was a necessary part of the process. There was no pretense of appealing to an audience for money, traffic or readership. The sole focus was debating the truth about a dynamic. That debate was always a hot kitchen, but the results were something greater than the process.

As a result my essays carried over a lot of the heat from the SoSuave days kitchen. I wasn’t writing to impress readers or increase traffic to the blog it was just to document and codify the objective truths I came to. There is no monetization and the comment threads have never been moderated (besides spam and trolls). Almost 8 years later my charter is still about the same objective debate.

The drawback to this commitment to objective truth is that it rarely appeals to emotionalism. No, it’s not the ‘tone‘ or the feel of the information being related that’s so off-putting – it’s the information itself, and how it makes one feel, that determines whether it’s perceived as positive or negative.

Feels Before Reals

Most people who are still plugged into the proverbial Matrix are living in a world that prioritizes feels before reals. The purpose of consuming really anything is to judge it by how it makes us feel; and especially so in an era defined by the female experience. Emotion always comes before reason in women’s natural, unlearned, interpretive processes. This is also extended to men who’ve been conditioned to prioritize emotions before reason. And this is exacerbated by their need to be better feelers, better emoters, than those other ‘typical’ guys if they want an emotional woman to ever bear their children at some point.

Anything that prioritizes reason before emotion will always run the risk of being perceived as negative. Even if the sum of the information is positive, the fact that you had to come to the truth by way of reason rather than emotion will make it negative.

If you used your head instead of your heart to figure something out, in Girl-World, at best it’s bad form. At worst, you’re a negative pessimists or a cynic.

Usually those designations are reserved for the men who make a habit of using reason to the exception of emotion to relate an objective truth that’s unflattering to the feminine. Again, it’s the information, not the tone, that’s offensive to the emotions-first prioritization. To the Blue Pill mind, any strong idea that conflicts with this prioritization is an affront to the personal investments they’ve made in ideas that it challenges.

So, understand, I’m not a negative person by nature. I’m an artist. Few people know that my 2nd degree is a BFA. I draw, I paint, I play four instruments, I used to do Shakespearean stage acting – I’ve even done children’s theater.

I fully embrace the emotional as a necessary part of the human experience – Hell, half of Red Pill awareness is acknowledging and confronting emotions. I’m certainly not a cynic or a pessimist. Anyone thinking so usually hasn’t read my work. I’m very much an optimist when it comes to creating a New Hope for men in a Red Pill paradigm. I don’t just stop at clinical realism and leave men hanging. I don’t subscribe to the ennui of the “Black Pill” – I’m certainly not absolutist or a determinist.

However, I also have a commitment and an obligation to objective truth in everything I write. Trust me, there are times I wish I could use my wife and my marriage as a ‘proof of concept’ example of how a Red Pill aware guy can make a relationship work today. But the objective truth would make me look like a charlatan if I tried to convince a man that marriage was at all a good idea in its present state.

That’s tough for me. I have had to hold back from posting pictures of my beautiful wife and daughter to prove something to truly negative naysayers. Ladies, you want me to write something positive about women? I love my wife dearly. She’s been a net benefit to my life for all of 23 years now. My daughter is a model. She’s feminine to a fault and she’s smart and ambitious. I would die for her, gladly.

But I never use my personal life as an example in my work for their protection, but also because I don’t want to lead men astray by in anyway implying that what I have is possible for them. And I’ve had men tell me that, “I want what you have.”

But I don’t make value calls. I consider information, I try to interpret it, and I present it in such a way that it’s useful to men where they’re at. I want to give you tools to use to build your own life, not mine.

Truth & Hustle

Admire the Hustle. We read this a lot in the Manosphere among the guys who fancy themselves entrepreneurs. I think one reason critics think the Red Pill is negative is because all they see is the Hustle. The Hustle has a way of becoming the whole point of anything.

I’m an abortion doctor, but I make six figures and I’m the best at what I do. No one will out-work me. Admire the Hustle baby.

When the selling is more important the the product itself, then you have problems. When the truth is less important than the Hustle inevitably our truth becomes the Hustle. There needs to be a balance and that’s getting harder and harder to find now.

We’re at a moment in the Manosphere where the truth is starting to get lost in the Hustle. I’m accused of it, or I’m accused of associating with ‘too much Hustle’. Well-meaning colleagues with too much perception and not enough information are feeling that salesmen care more about the sale than the product.

I hear you.

Let me finish here by reiterating that my obligation to objective truth will always be my motivation for doing anything I put my name on. It always has been. However, I have worked for amazing companies who sold things that people loved and enjoyed only to watch them crumble and die because the sales team assumed control of the ‘product’. The selling became more important than what was being sold.

My books, my blog, my appearances, every aspect of The Rational Male is my art. I craft each essay. It’s what I care about most. I will never allow the truth to be compromised by the Hustle. The Hustle is important, particularly when it’s about disseminating the truth, but it is secondary to the truth – even to the exception of the Hustle. Sometimes the truth doesn’t sell.

This Is Important

We are rapidly entering a time when our ideas will be vilified. Very soon the objective, life-saving, praxeology that is the Red Pill will be used as a label, as a synonym, for negative ideologies that never had anything to do with the Red Pill. And people who are all about the Hustle will gladly abandon the truth they’re selling now if it means the public opinion of it would compromise their Hustle. It’ll be less about what we’re discussing than how influential and how many followers the person we’re discussing it with has.

Others, those who were appropriating the ‘brand’, will throw the Red Pill under the bus to save their own necks. The coming storm is going to test the resolve of people who are all about the Hustle and all about the Red Pill. I know where my obligations lie, they’ve never changed.

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Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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@Sentient – Hey! I’m around sometimes. I don’t really have time to read the comments often but I try to read the main TRM posts at least. In the early stages of my year abroad doing full-time intense physical training in [activity] and getting hammered both physically and mentally by the coaches and training. Wanted to do it for a long time, but actually in it now. One of the hardest things I’ve ever done (certainly physically the hardest for someone whose entire life has been sedentary and staring at a screen till the age of 40, but also mentally).… Read more »

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As for the Heartiste thing – I think Rollo/AR/IAS have covered my views pretty well. Blax – I agree with your views about Heartiste (and Roosh, but less so – for all the unpleasant views he came across mostly as sad and pathetic looking for a reaction, especially after some of his older better content). But I only came to Heartiste after the old Roissy left and while I loved the archives, and the Game posts and I will always remember it for introducing me to the Red Pill and leading me to TRM, it slid seriously downhill in about… Read more »

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Hey Culum. I think Rollo has had the most rational take on the heartiste thing. I am still overjoyed that the site is down and I hope it never comes back. Sure, guys can talk about the dangers involved to other non-dipshit sites, and yes, that’s a valid concern. But what defenders of heartiste can’t seem to understand ( with A R going as far as to give me a mini black history lesson of sorts, not understanding I was raised on it…) Is that what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Guys talk about being ”… Read more »

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I’m gonna do this once for you pseudo-intellectual douche bags rambling on about freedom of speech. Yes, I’m speaking to you racist pieces of shit. WordPress is a private company. It can post standards banning racist commentary and enforce them. Period. Dot. End of sentence. For those of you who actually understand the laws at work here, under those narrow standards, it doesn’t matter if they are a platform or a publisher. Offensive content can be banned as long as the standards pass a “reasonable person” (were they to go to court) sniff test and are implemented uniformly. Don’t believe… Read more »

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@Rollo – You don’t know of CH was a racist blog or not? But you noticed regular racist content since 2007? LMFAO. And being against “multiculturalism” in no way demands one become a White Nationalist, be clear.

Fyi, I’ll debate any one of you racist fuckwits live and stream it. Most of you know so little about the actual history of even the Western world or the politics you subscribe to, it’s laughable. Yet you preen about as though you’ve got some better take on things. What a fucking joke the lot of you are.

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Sounds like an interesting year… I’m curious indeed. I’d guess but you don’t want to tell…

“Sentient probably will remember his name. ”

Ha. Trav777 nka Dr. trav777. He is anti game btw. Naturalistic tendencies going to solopsise…

A lot of guys are starting to show up at PAs blog. Ripp even poked in.

https://paworldandtimes.wordpress.com/

PA was a 2007 poaster and all time CoTW winner… I guess if there is news on CH it will pop there.

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I think the average person understands that private enterprise is different from government. But it’s pretty apparent at this point there are some de facto monopolies in place. And they seem to be owned almost exclusively by left leaning people. I’m reminded of a thread I read a while back, elsewhere (by a left-leaner, ironically enough). In particular this bit: The worst possible end-game for this is the two-tier marketplace of ideas mentioned above, with an unfortunate twist – everyone knows that the second tier is inhabited entirely by witches, and therefore being on the second tier is sufficient to… Read more »

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Hahaha, I’ll tell you when we meet Sentient – I think we will one day! You can probably guess the category of activity relatively easily, but I doubt you’ll guess the specific activity/training program. It’s very obscure, unless you’re familiar with the relevant subculture in which case it is famous and you get a lot of street cred within the subculture if you can say you survived and completed the training program I’m doing – the drop out rate, even for the self-selected group that travels across the world to do it, is over 50%, a combination of injury and… Read more »

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@Rollo: I’ve got the 16 Commandments of Poon archived

Here’s one better, a catalogue of some of the most valuable posts: https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-42283.html

You just copy those links and paste them into the Wayback Machine, they’ve all been archived multiple times over the years. You can also use the links on the archived pages to get to other archived pages. It’s not perfect, but it’s a damn sight better than not having the blog at all, and I’d rather have an echo of an impression from what it once was than to lose the knowledge, advice and debates it had.

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Even better, here’s a single-file archive (PDF, ZIP, text, Kindle, whatever you want – you can choose on that page) of all Heartiste posts till late 2014, which is pretty much all the good stuff since that’s right around when he started to get seriously ranty.

https://archive.org/details/pdfy-vDOT9mHtML-iRqpU

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Scribbs “Essentially, they propose a reversion to a feudal, medieval society in which a guilded, moneyed minority elite run everything.” Not sure this is a reversion. How are things going atm? “sustain a nation in which a majority held Protestant Anglo/Dutch Enlightenment ethics, not just identity. ” A super majority. 80% plus. That’s a big part of the “coming apart” we have today. ” But we were ruthless. Massive public support for integration and assimilation. Immigrant cultures that didn’t shine were shamed publicly and shunned. 1/3 of those immigrants returned home after failing here. We even had blacks doing better… Read more »

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Digital Game and Mentorship
https://bit.ly/2HT314B

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“Not sure this is a reversion. How are things going atm?”

Pretty spiffy, as that’s the model the globalists have been running for a long time; with the corporations in the place of the old family houses.

So they trade stocks and board seats instead of daughters these days.

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Hey, what’s new? Did I miss anything? Blaximus , Chin up man. I can understand precisely what you are saying, even if I don’t agree with all you’ve said 100%. Remember, many people can’t empathize with views or experience outside of their own, and this is especially true from what I’ve seen in the manosphere generally. It’s like seeing a man kill his family on the news, and all the neighbors remark that the killer was a nice , quiet man that didn’t have a mean bone in his body . I looked at Chateau a couple of times but… Read more »

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“I’m gonna do this once for you pseudo-intellectual douche bags …blah, blah, blah…the entire modern world for these jackals?”

That true Scot intellectualism will get you laid for sure, ya douche!

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There’s an old saying, well lots of them actually, but I have one in particular in mind:

If there’s a wasp in the room, you want to know where it is.

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Mothers Day I see my nephew with his mother and i see my mother the roles and loss of father’s today i still love and cherish my mother but i struggle with the distance required for me to be my own person. Once of my mentors Phil just had his kid over the weekend. His wife wants to have a huge family and today i came back to check in with my mom. I want a family but their seems to be so much i have to work through went to pick up something for my journey this June at… Read more »

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Blaximus But what defenders of heartiste can’t seem to understand Defending dissent sometimes means defending some ugly stuff. I thought you grasped that. ( with A R going as far as to give me a mini black history lesson of sorts, not understanding I was raised on it…) I”m sure you were raised on it. Too bad you don’t seem to have actually learned anything. Is that what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Ironic, because that’s exactly opposite what you are saying. Question: Did a mad scientist named Yakub really create evil things called “white people”?… Read more »

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I’m gonna do this once for you pseudo-intellectual douche bags rambling on about freedom of speech.

Only once? Promise?

Yes, I’m speaking to you racist pieces of shit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Win_Friends_and_Influence_People

PS: What is the difference between a “utility” function and an “editor” function? Does Verizon get to decide what people say over their network, or do they just provide a service? Is an editor responsible for everything that gets published?

These are rhetorical questions that I don’t expect you to answer intelligently.

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So they trade stocks and board seats instead of as well as daughters these days.

FIFY.
Webb Hubbell’s daughter, Chelsea Victoria, is on multiple corporate boards.

Clinton has worked for McKinsey & Company, Avenue Capital Group, and New York University and serves on several boards, including those of the School of American Ballet, Clinton Foundation, Clinton Global Initiative, Common Sense Media, Weill Cornell Medical College and IAC/InterActiveCorp.

Each of those comes with a check.

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The Red Pill does not mean being racist. Get that. Being “race realist” merely means observing that there are racial differences – ON AVERAGE – between the races.

LOL. Self-contradict much?

I may disagree with what you say, but I’ll defend your right to say it. I don’t expect you to do the same. That’s ok.

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I’ll close with some observations about the Alt Right I bet many of you who follow huckster megalomaniacs like Richard Spencer or Voxday don’t realize:

https://infogalactic.com/info/Straw_man

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Anyone else notice that CH is out of business? Roosh, James Woods, Alex Jones, CH-anyone else see a pattern? Are you next Rollo? Less than 18 months until Get Rid of Trump Day. I hope you’ll let us in on the back up plans Rollo

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Woods too huh?

https://boundingintocomics.com/2019/05/10/james-woods-responds-to-twitter-ban/

What say you Blax? Scribbs?

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Forgot a reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakub_%28Nation_of_Islam%29 Excerpt: After 600 years of this deliberate eugenics, the white race was created.[5] The brutal conditions of their creation determined the evil nature of the new race: “by lying to the black mother of the baby, this lie was born into the very nature of the white baby; and, murder for the black people was also born in them—or made by nature a liar and murderer”.[2] Just one part of the public belief system of the Nation of Islam, which has been around a lot longer than CH or the Internet for that matter. There’s more,… Read more »

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Im changing and its uncomfortable

It is uncomfortable. Like physical growing pains. But it is far better than stasis.

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AR I heard/Read the book back in the early 70’s. Not a follower, sooo….. I’ll restate my position again – public platforms could get anybody. I shed no tears for Farrakhan or anybody else that gets ” banned ” from any social media site, because I’m not into that stuff. I heard Farrakhan speak live a dozen times, and it was never on a blog or social media site. Not my thing, but people insist on building a life in these places. Lol, I actually oppose ” Facebook ” ( makes me an outlier I guess..). Sure, you can reach… Read more »

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Anybody else find it ridiculous to equate Rollo with CH, Alex Jones or James Woods?

In the comments at trm?

Alex Jones?

Really?

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Okay, let this die ( like Ch ).

I never demanded that Heartiste be deplatformed. I won’t ever be sad about it either. Butthurt, huh? I don’t care, other than to be pleasantly surprised.

Yawn already.

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Anybody else find it ridiculous to equate Rollo with CH, Alex Jones or James Woods?

Well when the subject is banning a consumer of a product (arguable online is not a utility btw) based on a unilateral definition of “hate” speech – how is it ridiculous? You OK with Rollo being banned for misogyny? he is a leading Patriarch now…

Clock is ticking.

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…. James Woods and Alex Jones.

smh.

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Blax, that’s precisely your problem. You are justifying and rationalizing an action because if they can’t be equated, then it’s okay. Boiling that down, you’re almost literally rewriting a form of the sentence “it’s fine if these people are banned because they’re bad enough to deserve it.” Other posters are telling you what the horrible implications and precedents such a line of thinking leads to, and you do nothing to refute any of that but just ignore it and double back down on “they deserved it, I don’t care,” which isn’t a counterargument to what’s been said. As I mentioned… Read more »

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Oh the irony… silence someone else’s voice”…

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Why cant the Manosphere just sweeten up? Its truth is definable and self-evident, but why can’t Rollo adjust the ‘tone’?

LOL.
And to think I, from my point of view, can see you already do all what’s rightful to do so as to not be to harsh.

More than that would be lying. And some realism is needed if people are to be saved BEFORE crashing.
It’s infinitely better than the “crash hard a couple of times then find this blog and reach safety” route.

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@IAS

You are a wise fellow (and a rare one with enough mental fortitude to tolerate diversity in actuality, not yelled hollow insincere jingles.

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@Anonymous Reader Yes, Fakebook doesn’t behave in sync with what it states about itself. But what corporation (in the literal sense of the word)/organisation does? Have you ever seen one where the written rules apply, and equally to any situation/subject/member? LOL. If you have no experience of this, join (for instance) an online community, try to talk/behave like the honchos, and see what comes — and how it is rationalized, and how nobody seems bothered by the blatant asymmetry of “faculties”. It’s human nature, even without stage management from above (which I think is there in the recent bannings. And… Read more »

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@YoungMaster

He had a great post by the title “Reconsidered Rape”.
Great Calculate your SMV posts for females and males.

And so much more.
I think the blog’s writer never really changed, by the way, and the variation over time is due to maturity.
(I say this while being aware of the doxxing and so on).

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@Palmasailor – thank you.

One for when I get back home for sure.

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Palma

How did you delete posts?

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@Youngmaster “Because of course it could never happen to the people that DON’T “deserve” it. ” Blax uses his melatonin as a source of unearned indignancy. We all got our little picadillos that way. The further away a person is from actual insult, (racism, sexism, all forms of bigotry and hatred) the harder it is to invoke it as relavent….so a guy will hold on to a momento of it as protection from having to let go of that ego-protective comfort blanket. We find comfort in our past hurt, and masochisticly so. Recent anecdote: I’m at a bar (where else)… Read more »

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An archive of CH until 2011

https://paworldandtimes.wordpress.com/2019/05/11/open-thread-chateau-heartiste/#comment-36406

Ok, I compressed the archive down to 80 MB and uploaded here — this link should stay up for anonymous retrieval:

https://anonfiles.com/3dSdQ3q9na/Citizen_Renegade_2010.tar_gz

The archive is an unaltered snapshot on 1/1/2011. I never even needed to access it. Just wish I’d made a new archive more recently.

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“Heartiste is still done. Your point is made of helium. His vanishing is about 5 years too late, but POOF!!! He’s all gone now.”

disagree.

CH lives forever in every man who read him/them and changed as a result

censorship is proof they are afraid

they should be

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@Blaximus i understand exactly what you are saying, buuuut… ya might want to rethink the ‘goodness’ of censorship… as in ANY censorship… here’s why… censorship is not your (or anybody’s) friend… bc censoring only ‘happens’ to block ‘truth’ (notice the scare quotes…lol… bc that truth is mostly based on an underlying analysis, but is still in play…)… truth that is inconvenient to a particular narrative (the narrative of the group with the power to do the censoring)… and it doesn’t matter if that bit of truth that is being blocked is mixed in with a bunch of sht… censoring makes… Read more »

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@Sentient

“How did you delete posts?”

Easy if you’re 007. wink

I’ll tell you privately if you want to delete yours.

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HABD Thanks as always. But, an I to take from all of the hullabaloo that it’s okay at the end of the day for CH to ban, but it’s a crisis if TH gets banned? I’m not trying to be dense, but that’s the end message I’m getting from all of the gnashing of teeth. He has a right to censor, while simultaneously being supposedly immune to any form of censorship. Hmmmm….there must be a name for that. As for the people doing the censoring, I don’t consider them ” friend s ” by any stretch. I’m not a proponent… Read more »

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@Blaximus But, an I to take from all of the hullabaloo that it’s okay at the end of the day for CH to ban, but it’s a crisis if TH gets banned? nope… it’s not ok… the pattern is the same… banning truth is just a defense of a narrative with an agenda… it still results in one more step closer to kinetic resolution… which i’m not a big fan of…lol… unfortunately, i think we probably passed the event horizon for that sh*t at this point… and the farther we go, the more energy/effort will be required to pull the… Read more »

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It’s all fun and games until someone gets a common carrier put out.

And we’re already down to domain names.

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I don’t know what prompted me to watch TV tonight. But OMG, with red pill lenses the new Bachelorette Show promises to be a shit show.

A ball busting HB6 right out of the starting gate shuts down the first guy who actually had a plate spinning. With nasal flaring Indignation.

And she then spins up all the other White Night guys.

Good luck with the odds makers guys.

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The coming storm is going to test the resolve of people…

Too many people are thinking of security instead of opportunity. They seem to be more afraid of life than death. ~James F. Bymes

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That thread at PA’s place is a trip. So many of the old timers there … Keoni, Jay, Doug, etc. Takes me back to the heyday of the place, back before the doxxing and the moving and the name changing. At that time it was the center of the “sphere”, and in fact, there was no “manosphere” yet — at the time people were calling it the “Roissysphere”, and it spawned so many different blogs and communities in so many different directions that eventually each formed its own part of the web, and the manosphere was one of those. But… Read more »

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@Blaximus i just re-read this… “So if I said women are all highly prone to Hypergamy( true ), therefore they are worthless shit monkeys that should be exterminated( false ), and fanboys can only proclaim the ” true” part and say how enlightened the statement is😂, does this make rational sense?” sure it does…lol… i’m not a retard…lol… but the question then becomes – do people have agency?… i didn’t mean to make it seem like i called you a retard…lol… you’re overall point on that concept is pretty straight forward, and makes complete sense… but your rhetorical question on… Read more »

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@kfg (and others): I messed up my AC joint (the shoulder capsule) on one side so I stopped OHP and BP during the physio. Even before I started the physio the pain was perfectly bearable (in fact my OHP record was performed then, although that must have contributed to the peak of the inflammation – I didn’t realize it was serious but as it wasn’t subsiding I went to get it checked). Nearing the end of physio sessions, I asked if I could go back to doing OHP and BP and power through the pain without that messing it up… Read more »

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At the very least, check out John Kirsch’s hanging/brachiating every day. In his book, he says it will never hurt (meaning injure further) any and all shoulder problems. I don’t know if it will help you. It shouldn’t hurt anything. There is a lot of anatomy and rehab science behind it.

https://www.onebed.com.au/eliminate-shoulder-pain-with-a-simple-and-easy-exercise/

I had some wicked shoulder impingement syndrome bilaterally. Most likely from lifting too heavily. My impingement syndrome mostly went away after 3 to 4 months of hanging.

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@HABD “ignoring the ‘false’ part of the equation is standard ideological defense… that’s WHY ‘truth’ gets censored/banned… it messes up the purpose of the communication… which is ‘hug boxy’…lol” Why truth gets banned is this: It threatens the present order. What is the TPTB incentive to censor, IOW how does it directly benefit the censorer from loss, and what is that loss? I’ve an idea…it is about control of the economic stability through use of increased worker supply of cheap, pliable labor. Feminism is one of many angles to keep people not laid and frustrated and back on the job.… Read more »

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If you keep going you are going to keep fucking it up. Lower weight to no pain, increase reps. Watch range of motion.

You don’t want surgery, it’s a stop gap.

Old Joke : You know who loves Crossfit? Orthopedic surgeons!

[Sidenote – manosphere thing to Lift Heavy Bro!… Deadlifts, etc. Not needed. Especially if you are starting this stuff in your 30’s or later. Hypergamy does not care about your deads max.]

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Hanging has got to be the most underrated exercise ever. Both the straight hang and the hang under muscular tension (pull yourself up just an inch or so). There is also the lower down, where you use an aid to get up to the pull up position and then lower yourself slowly to a hang. I’ve read a story where Arthur Jones was clued in to how badly Joe Weider’s magazines were misinforming people (Jones was an African animal collector before he got into the muscle business by accident) when he saw a gorilla, an animal that spent most of… Read more »

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Lyon – hard at work

https://www.instagram.com/p/BwxPf3ZAIzu/

How was your day?

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Treats Mag huh?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BpVgIyjH4hc/

Inspiring…

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@Everyone about the shoulder: I do hanging leg raises 6×6, I’ve been doing them standing on the elbows instead of hanging to preserve the shoulder. I’ll resume the hanging then, thanks. The pain started away from the gym when I was doing some calisthenics (I strongly suspect one-hand pushups and dips, but it could have been the handstand push-ups with feet on the wall). Of course I might have the shoulder already messed up from the gym by then without noticing. Then I thought it was just going to go away and kept doing my usual OHPs and BPs, I’m… Read more »

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j: “(It used to be that Friday and Saturday were the busiest days. Now it’s just Saturday.”

Not what I’m seeing in two different big cities (midwest and west). Fridays are still busy. The big diff is between winter and summer. Busier in winter. Not dead in summer, but maybe 2/3 the clientele.

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Great listen

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Blaximus sees this only from the perspective of how it affects him and he’s butthurt about being “banned” or whatever. The bigger issue is de-platforming which is done on very random unexplained grounds: “you know what you did” as the commissars of old would say in a Kafkaesque tone. Blaximus stop whinging and seriously grow a pair. If you’re going to be part of the group then be prepared to BE part of the group and take whatever criticism or praise comes your way. The big trust emerging from CH was that there was no one standing up for that… Read more »

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“That person didn’t invite me to his home, so I am happy that his landlord terminated his rent and threw him out on the street”. Blaximus logic.

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“Being “red-pilled” is online shorthand for having one’s eyes opened – generally to extreme right-wing views about gender and race.”

Being red pilled is now a hate crime. And they will know it when they see it to be sure.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/112724135/christchurch-call-could-lead-to-work-on-redpilling-of-online-radicalisation

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Wala It’s not about butthurt or landlords or any of that. I didn’t see any I’d be banned ( censorship, the thing everyone is against, right?), But that’s just a part of the reason I don’t care that ch is gone. Look, don’t be so stubbornly dense about something that really simple. Are you upset about feminism because it only affects you? Most reasonable men can conclude that feminism, especially the hardcore radical kind that think castration and shit are the best solution to the ” man problem “, is a bad thing and wouldn’t shed tears if it collapsed.… Read more »

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Blaximus you’re so tiresome, droning on and on over some perceived slight completely unable to see the point. Give it a rest and move on already. Blahblahblahximus…

Deplatforming is the issue not your butthurtness.

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Ok. If all you can.see is ” butthurt ” then yeah I’m droning. Nothing else I ve said gets through tobyou, and that’s on purpose on your part.

You want things one way and one way only. Good for you, and good luck with that. But, you might want to rethink that, especially before you complain about some slight foisted on you.

Blahblahblahblah….

Heartiste is still gone.

Deplatforming is a thing. Don’t be ” butthurt ” about it.

Does that seem fair? Because as you’ve intimated, it ain’t about you and your feelings.

Or am ((( I ))) wrong?
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“The post-totalitarian system touches people at every step, but it does so with its ideological gloves on. This is why life in the system is so thoroughly permeated with hypocrisy and lies: government by bureaucracy is called popular government; the working class is enslaved in the name of the working class; the complete degradation of the individual is presented as his or her ultimate liberation; depriving people of information is called making it available; the use of power to manipulate is called the public control of power, and the arbitrary abuse of power is called observing the legal code; the… Read more »

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I rarely read your endless posts and after reading today’s I now know why. You post constantly but leave very little behind to stimulate the mind or further discussion. I’ll put this into language a snowflake like you can understand…CH was the “safe space” for a lot of individuals who had no where to turn to to discuss the frustrations and hypocrisy making their already difficult lives even more miserable. For them it’s a great loss….for you this is a secret or not so secret triumph as you gloat over it because you got “banned”. Did you really? Or were… Read more »

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Anyone notice this Bud Light ad has been changed?

https://www.ispot.tv/ad/I22F/bud-light-kings-speech

Now the scribe is showing a less toxicly male pony instead of the knight with the sword… Can’t find anything online discussing this change…

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“But who decides which ideas are for public consumption and which aren’t?”
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Vae Victis!

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Life is a struggle for all,even in today’s mechanized world. So it just goes without saying that if a social,political,legal or sexual unfairness is in ones favor,they will generally accept the unfairness. Some will even go as far as to protect the false in order to better prosper and celebrate when the opposition is snuffed out. This is just human nature,there is nothing special or outstanding about it. The main trouble with this propensity is that there is gravity and inertia coupled with hunger and instinct that are based in truth. In the final outcome truth always wins out no… Read more »

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“Either life is unfair or it’s always fair and just.”

It’s not your usual level-headedness to write in extremes. This peanut gallery shit’s getting to you. Doctor’s orders: Play some golf, enjoy the weather.

Here’s your TRM weather desk NJ forecast: Partly to mostly cloudy. High around 70F. Winds WNW at 10 to 15 mph.

Now let’s kick it over to Sentient at the sports desk.

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Sorry you can’t take disagreement. I hope you find another safe space/hug box soon.

Banning is wron g, or it is right. Stop talking out of both sides of your mouth. It’s transparent. I wrote what is said when I was banned. Why are you invested in finding an alternative reason? Ask yourself that ( you won’t).

Still gone.😀

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So Blax which is it? Is banning wrong or right?

No wiggle words now… No ifs or buts or candies or nuts…

Sports!!!

Do watch the NCAA Lax tournament… Or playoff hockey… Some great stuff. 💀😈🔫🐸💪

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Sentient Banning is wrong on public platforms and in general. As I’ve said a dozen times, I wouldn’t have banned/deplatformed heartiste, even if I had the power to do so. Maybe he’ll go private. But my point is that a) I wasn’t a fan for a reason, so b) I won’t gnash my teeth because the banner got banned. Lots of folks getting deplatformed. Nobody will do anything about it except complain and go about their daily lives as usual. It’s lip service. It’s feelz. It changes nothing. Banning heartiste isn’t a sign of the fall of civilization. ” banning… Read more »

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Maybe the Isis recruitment videos can make a comeback as well.

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“Maybe if it comes back, it will allow opposing views without censoring and banning, since the overriding message seems to be that banning and censorship is bad, right? Or is it only sometimes?” ch banning individual users mods find annoying or unproductive or whatever is different from tech masters deplatforming people hate speech and racist speech are protected as free speech the tech masters operate under the idea they are platforms not publishers while they edit and censor like publishers and push agendas like special interest lobbyists all while claiming to be neutral lol censorship is about controlling language to… Read more »

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So, banning and censorship is okay under…the ” right ” circumstances as determined by individuals?

Other than that, I agree with the bulk of the statement aside from the differentiation between ” tech ” and individuals, because definitions don’t change.

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Ugh Blax f fucks sake give it up

Banning and censorship is never ok – and yeah I get it CH banned you – and yeah he was a cunt for that.

But that’s exavtly the point.

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“Women don’t care about your struggles, they hang out at the finish line and bang the winner…”
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J

Whoa J… some growth!!!!

Welcome to the Ride or Die mindset… Those twitter guys get it wrong because they never lived it…

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Heartiste is rising…

https://gab.com/Heartiste/posts/WmdxZnFVQngzWnptTFNFQ3BYcE0vdz09

Back on gab

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Take heed Rollo, what do these things have in common [brought to you by the Letter R] “FYI a few days before the 2016 election, Wormpress warned me about the content of a couple of blog posts, and asked they be deleted to avoid a deplatform, which I did. No harm no foul. (The supposed infraction was bogus of course, but I’m not gonna get worked up over a couple of shitposts that took the piss out of Paul Ryan.) This time around, no warning. No emails from Wormpress. Just sudden darkness. Someone got to them, and they flinched. The… Read more »

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Nah, don’t misrepresent me. Rollo’s not posting racist shit.

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( and I know, I know, a lot of commenters see ” racist ” shit as ” free speech “. I’m good with that ( because it will NEVER change ), but I don’t have to like it, endorse it, agree with it, be silenced by it ( which I think is what a lot of people want – just shut up about it already or something Lol, but I don’t have to. ).

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“Racist” is a label thrown at “others”.

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What can be done about Heartiste’s banning other than whining?

And the issue with Isis is their murderous tactics, not their dislike of Christians. Murderous racists should be banned, but racists who advocate forming organizations to promote the interests of their own race shouldn’t be banned.

All that said, I’m not a fan of racism of any sort, but I’ll defend the right of racists to speak–even Farrakhan and La Raza (hispanic racists) and Heartiste. Of course, I’ll also be happy to expose their racism and castigate it.

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FYI: THE AUTOMATTIC CREED I will never stop learning. I won’t just work on things that are assigned to me. I know there’s no such thing as a status quo. I will build our business sustainably through passionate and loyal customers. I will never pass up an opportunity to help out a colleague, and I’ll remember the days before I knew everything. I am more motivated by impact than money, and I know that Open Source is one of the most powerful ideas of our generation. I will communicate as much as possible, because it’s the oxygen of a distributed… Read more »

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Call me curious about J.’s post. What does that post mean to you in your own personal quest J.? “Women don’t care about your struggles, they hang out at the finish line and bang the winner…” Is that about PUA and banging bar sluts at the end of the night. (And not that there is anything wrong with that for you at all…Really. Sport-fucking is fine.) Or are you just posting up some random shit for the purpose of Law #38 of the 48 Laws of Power. In other words as to the question I have, what is going to… Read more »

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“My greater fear at this point is losing my account on Amazon.” Have you been, well, covertly threatened? You don’t know if the lines of communication are cut and all…. “My greater fear…” Now’s the second time you’ve expressed fear at something frankly out of your control. If it was in your control you’d adjust or overcome or make connections or what ever it takes not be banned. The idea of banning you has you fearing things over which you have zero control and taking up space in your head where you could be doing other productive things. No joke.… Read more »

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or…….is Rollo looking to drive up his book sales?

Nah.

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“I thought about it and wondered if kfg would kindly pose the same sentence to himself but swap “DUI” with “your divorce”.”

Certainly.

“Was kfg intending a divorce?”

I was intending ’til death do us part, but when it came down to facing the actual choice I chose divorce. I could have chosen cake, but as a celiac that would have been a distinction without a difference.

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Full responsibility
Accountability
Needs
Wants
Behaviors

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@ kfg “I could have chosen cake” Then why didn’t you? Lol. When you were given the choices In the context you believed divorce was your only option. It’s easy to say to yourself or somebody else after the fact that you could’ve done something differently or avoided the divorce. I’m not so sure that’s true. So rather than fear every step I take in the present because of some past mistake to avoid some future punishment, I forgive myself most of all because my intentions at the time In my opinion were sound and work around the obstacle. I… Read more »

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There’s something wrong when you regret things that haven’t happened yet.

https://youtu.be/tGKaPCewPiY

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I was intending ’til death do us part, but when it came down to facing the actual choice I chose divorce.

And weren’t we all? Before RP, that was the landscape of choices available to me – stay in and die (figuratively) or gtfo and perhaps live…

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