The 21 Conventions – 2019

Once again it’s time to announce the dates and locations of this year’s 21 Conventions. By now I’m sure most of my readers know I’ve been getting myself ‘out there‘ a lot more and this year is no exception. The one event I’m doing with any regularity is the 21 Conventions (yes, there are others in the offing). I think I’ve been somewhat instrumental in helping Anthony Johnson reform these events into the Red Pill Summits they’ve become. There’s really nothing that comes close to the scale and comprehensiveness of these gatherings and I only expect them to grow into something the mainstream will soon be unable to ignore. The 21 Conventions have gone from what I can only refer to as Purple Pill to being the only real Red Pill event in existence.

For the last couple of years I’ve been a silent partner in these events. Many of the speakers are men I’ve had some personal connection with over the years. Most of them my readers will be familiar with from my mornings on The Red Man Group, but it’s been my mission to see that the roster of men speaking at these events are on message with respect to intersexual dynamics. While the upcoming Patriarch’s Edition is focused more on family, fathers and leadership, the two other conventions slated this year have something for every man – even the guy who’s newly unplugged.

Unlike certain Men’s Rights conferences (primarily organized by women), the 21 Convention is for men, by men.

The conventions are about men, not just “men’s issues” or a lot of top-down awareness raising. They are also not fluffy, “feel good” pep rallies with more hype than information. You get real content, not a lot of hype.

My involvement in this convention has had only one goal; to give men the nuts & bolts, actionable information they need to conceive and develop the lives they want to lead. Lives that align with the truths that Red Pill awareness represents. If you’re looking to get laid, we’ve got that covered. If you’re trying to resolve a sexless marriage, we’ve got you covered. If you’re looking to become the best version of yourself, you want to be a Red Pill father, you want to fight feminism? This convention is the only event that delivers ‘real content’ based on the difficult truths men need to acknowledge in their lives.

I get it. That seems like a hard sell. But there needs to be some kind of gathering of minds in this sphere. I will continue to put my name on this event until it ceases to be about the charter or shifts to a different message. My constant concern is ensuring that this convention stays committed to objectivism. Critics want to claim that the Red Pill is only a cult. It’s only interested in “ideological purity”. This is a false narrative. The Red Pill is obligated to objective truth. It only seems ‘culty’ when that truth clashes with the ego-invested beliefs of ideologues.

The 21 Conventions serve as a TED Talk for the Manosphere. At no other venue will you hear these topics and pro-masculine information discussed. We live in an era where free speech is limited by platform and the ideological bent of its owners. It’s long past time we developed a forum where Red Pill awareness can be discussed free from censorship – this is it. The only way to test the strengths of an idea is in the crucible of open debate. And that debate requires an open marketplace of ideas in which to test them.

POLAND – July 11-18, 2019

21 Convention – Poland

OI’m pleased to announce my first European talk will be delivered this year in Warsaw, Poland. I can’t stress enough how this venue is the ideal location for a Red Pill discourse. Given the sociopolitical state of most of Europe today, it’s probably the only country that would welcome honest perspectives on gender, intersexual dynamics, conventional masculinity and men’s personal development.

Although I’ve been to several European countries, Poland will be a first for me. This will be a personal pleasure for me also as I also have a Polish translation of The Rational Malethat I’m very proud of. I’ve been working with my Polish team for 2 years now and it will be an honor to finally meet up with these guys.

If you live in Europe and haven’t had the opportunity to come to the U.S. conventions this will be your event. At the time of this posting the registration is already moving rapidly, so please don’t hesitate to register now. Please use my affiliate link in the banner above to register. This is how I get credited for the attendees.

At the time of this posting the speaker’s list for Poland is:

  • Rollo Tomassi
  • Anthony Johnson
  • Andrew ‘Cobra’ Tate
  • Jack Donovan
  • Richard Grannon
  • Nick Krauser
  • George Bruno
  • Socrates
  • Ivan Throne
  • Jack Murphy
  • Alexander AJ Cortes
  • Kyle Trouble
  • Steve Williams
  • Johnathan (MLD)

Thats the confirmed list and it’s likely to expand before the event

ORLANDO – October 24-27

The 21 Convention Orlando

This is the main U.S. event. In 2018 the convention sold out and attendance more than doubled from 2017. 2019 will see this event is even larger. Anthony has also added independent workshops by individual speakers on a variety of relevant topics for attendees to the main conference talks. Check the 21 Convention site for more info on these workshops, but these side talks are part of the registration and an added value for attendees.

And these workshops are in addition to the offsite, after hours meet ups, dinners and extra-curricular events that will be going on over the extended four-day convention. No matter which convention you attend I make it my job to engage with every man I meet at the conferences. You will have personal time to discuss the matters that concern you most. This is my favorite part of doing these events.

Again I need to stress that the registration goes quickly for these events. The way it works is that the price progressively escalates to regular attendance prices the long you wait as the event date nears. I used to think this was a clever pricing scheme to get men to commit to attend, but now that the convention has become the ‘Woodstock of the Manosphere‘ it’s even more important that you get on these registrations as soon as possible before they sell out.

Please use the link in the Orlando banner above to get to my affiliate account. Again, this is how I get credit for my attendees.

Orlando is the main event and the list of speakers for the four-day event is truly awesome:

  • Rollo Tomassi
  • Anthony Johnson
  • Elliott Hulse
  • Hotep Jesus (Bryan Sharpe)
  • Jack Donovan
  • Ed Latimore
  • Dr. Robert Glover
  • Dr. Shawn Smith PsyD
  • Hunter Drew
  • Tanner Guzy
  • Donovan Sharpe
  • Goldmund Unleashed
  • Rian Stone
  • George Bruno
  • Socrates
  • Texas Dom
  • Ivan Throne
  • Jack Murphy
  • Alexander AJ Cortes
  • Steve Williams

And that’s the list of speakers we have confirmed at this time. As you can see, there is no other Manosphere gathering that compares to this event. It’s not just the TED Talk for the ‘sphere, it’s the friends you’ll make and the men you’ll connect both inside and outside the conference. The 21 Convention is much more than the men speaking or the workshops about the issues and topics that are important to you, it’s about the experience of sharing ideas with other men that no other venue allows for.

Finally, there will be discount codes for both events:

  • All men 25 or younger – U25
  • Military (active & retired) – MILITARY
  • Law enforcement and firefighters (active & retired) – LEO

These codes will get you 25% off the registration, including the VIP upgrades. These codes do not stack.

My goal for these conventions is enabling men to get access in any way possible. Some critics claim the price is too restrictive or it’s overpriced for what they believe is men “selling their snake oil to unsuspecting dupes”. This is also my concern. I want you to have access, but obviously the conferences can’t be ‘free admission’. A lot goes into bring together a convention of this magnitude. But “Why go at all when all the information is free on your blog Rollo?” Why indeed? If the cost is too prohibitive for you then you can always read my material here for free. I encourage you to do so in fact. I consider the Red Pill to be open source, so please, don’t put yourself into financial difficulties if attending would do so.

But also know that if the 25% discounts above aren’t enough for you, I will find a way for you to attend using one of my limited discounts, getting you on the volunteer staff, or some other way. That’s how important I think these events are for men. So if you’re struggling financially, but you really want to attend, hit me up in my email or Twitter or the comments on my About page here and I’ll make a way to make it happen.

And if you think it’s “all just salesmen hawking snake oil”, I will also find a way to get you a discounted registration on my dime so you can attend and see for yourself what these events are really all about.

I joke with Anthony that my ‘workshops’ start the moment I enter the hotel lobby. I’m guaranteed to lose my voice before the the end of the 3rd day, but it’s worth it to me to give you the most of what you’re paying for. That’s my commitment to you. I know that most men only have finite resource, and only get so many weeks a year for vacation. That is the foremost thing on my mind when I’m speaking at these conventions. I want you to get the most of your investment in a weekend that’s guaranteed to change your outlook on life. And I’m confident all my fellow speakers feel the same.

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rugby11
rugby11
4 years ago

Im in

IAS
IAS
4 years ago

@Rollo: it is great that you are coming to an European event. I imagine this would be difficult to arrange, but I (and I think others) would be interested in a more moderate fee limited access pass just for attending your keynote speech, see you in person / shake your hand / get your autograph and not attend the rest of the conference. It could even be in a different venue from the rest of the conference. Often in conferences there is a “public lecture” open to the general public, this would be kind of in that line (but due… Read more »

JO
JO
4 years ago

@Rollo: I have to agree with IAS here. I have been a fan of your work for some time now and always thought it might be nice to hear you speak sometime. I have a friend who is struggling with a lot of the issues you deal with in your writings and I think he might benefit from such an event. I am from Germany and upon reading this article thought to myself: “hey, Warsaw is right around the corner, I think I might check it out and ask him to come along!” Unfortunately, the incredibly steep price tag quickly… Read more »

John P
John P
4 years ago

We love you

@dogma_vat
4 years ago

I’d be all over this if Anthony Johnson weren’t such a fucking idiot.

Jason
Jason
4 years ago

Any events planned in or near the Pacific Northwest? Orlando is a bit of a drive for those of us on this side of the country.

Eddie Willers
Eddie Willers
4 years ago

Hi Rollo,

I sent you a private message on Instagram, about this. I don’t use Twitter, but if there’s another preferred way to contact you (like email), please let me know.

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

A heads up, Rollo, in light of the 21 Convention. I came across a demagoguery piece in my news feed from a leftist PAC site. (political activity or practices that seek support by appealing to the desires and prejudices of ordinary people rather than by using rational argument) The author is Casey Quinlan Twitter: @THATCASEYQUIN https://thinkprogress.org/no-coincidence-california-synagogue-shooter-john-earnest-posted-about-the-red-pill-movement-aa46b31c01ad/ The man charged in connection with a deadly synagogue shooting over the weekend referred to a male supremacist ideology in an 8chan post before the attack, according to authorities. The suspect, John Earnest, a self-described white supremacist and anti-Semite, has been charged with murder… Read more »

Vaun
Vaun
4 years ago

I can’t make it to Tampa, but I’m excited to see the content coming out of that weekend. Interested in any resources that I can use as a parent, to read up on as I’m not going to be there this weekend.

ex-cartoonist
4 years ago

The Red Pill has got into the Dutch newspapers! In the Netherlands, Volkskrant is the equivalent of the New York Times, I suppose, or the Britain’s Telegraph. It’s a hit piece, of course, taking the 20th anniversary of The Matrix as a reason for a story on how the red pill was co-opted by the alt-Right and discontented misogynists. Roosh got mentioned, plus the guy who created the original Red Pill forum on Reddit… (Looks it up.) …Robert Fisher. The way it reads, you’d think the manosphere is populated by neo-nazis. Sigh. (Wish I knew how to upload a picture.… Read more »

blogster
blogster
4 years ago

Question. For anyone who has had to spend time in a leftist, liberal fucktard city. I am currently stationed in one for work (good career opportunity, from which I will bounce as soon as the next step opens up). Won’t go into too many specifics, but it’s a government city (capital city) in a small, safe country. Everyone is nice, friendly…..and insufferably liberal. Not wanting jihadists in the country is ‘Islamophobic’, and so on, kind of place. I see women routinely pairing up with these limpet-like gimps, totally devoid of any testosterone or backbone or muscle tone. Classic Heartiste ‘the… Read more »

Flashman Jr
Flashman Jr
4 years ago

Reply to Blogster,
I’ve lived many years in the Nordics, similar but probably not so bad as you describe, unless you are talking about Copenhagen.

Find the genuine Anglo-Saxon pubs and the ex-pats, I would be surprised if there weren’t any, and take it from there.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

“At social events I’ve had women say they are intimidated by me and some women visibly become uncomfortable, make their excuses and exit the conversation” and…. ” I’ve been told I look straight through people” Good morning Blogster. Been there. It’s clear you’re subcommunicating in body language your contempt for your situation. I’m no fan of leftists….though left-right dynamic is irrelavant to basic human incentives. Keep in mind that people are acutely aware of your 210# hulking frame. I’m not poking fun but a guy like you by phenotype alone rattles women. No need to be flagrant. Moreover, there’s generally… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

“Moreover, there’s generally NO need to force-feed masculinity on people.”

Oops.

Robert
Robert
4 years ago

At the risk of ridicule from spherethought, what exactly is a leftist liberal fucktard city?

Sometimes what a man says and how he says it speaks volumes.

Robert
Robert
4 years ago

Ex cartoonist See above from blogster please, and read around the sphere . There is no doubt that most manosphere sitescope manage to espouse an awful lot of alt right styled thought without much rebuff. Truly, if you say that you cannot see it, you’d be lying either to yourself or others or both. Rational Male doesn’t traffic in alt right nonsense or mysogony, but the comments section, like all commenting sections, can be rife at times. It’s normal for the loudest squeaky wheel to get the most attention. Something is dangerously amiss when so much killing and threat is… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Blogster WTF is this? How do you deal in these cities? Lot of unpacking here… First lesson is these cities is actually ANY city you are in atm. The Rules of the Game are the same. The second lesson is – Get Thee Some Game… You present as a guy who thinks he can just look good and get women. This isn’t how things work. The third lesson – Do NOT ever think about “the other guys”! The Other Guys are just ugly girls… [Mystery]. Game them. And once you start comparing yourself to other guys you are done. You… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

You being comfortable and charming in your own skin will comfort others without sacrificing yourself. You’re not on a one man savior schema mission to rid the world of it’s stupidity.

Very well said Eh…

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

Thank you much, Sentient. Have a nice weekend too.

You see, blogster? How hard was that?

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

“One Man Savior Schema”

would be a good twitter byline or a band name…

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

“Assholes are co-opting the name and the press is assisting them via their own ignorance.” True, and the forces of progress quickly and pervasively scapegoat all men. There’s a 10-80-10 maxim re: corporate thievery, shoplifting, sundry illegality: 10% will steal regardless of threat of penalties…10% will never steal…80% don’t steal as the threat of penalties loom. The m.o. of TPTB is to keep the center mass in line with threats. Add the never-steal 10% and 90% of the masses are in check. Incel warriors like Elliot Rodgers and his ilk are hoisted up as modern male thought…keeping the 80% center… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

Lastly, it’s as important to let go of past wrongs inflicted on me by others.

Butthirt indignancy provides succor and over time that hurt, unprovoked or not, loses its relevancy to a man’s ATM success and very well damages my ability to move on.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

“what exactly is a leftist liberal fucktard city?”

It’s a fair question.

Detroit was run by unapologetic leftists forever until the bottom fell out.

There’s one near me too.

The reality is this….when money, sex, self-esteem buffers lose their effectiveness, BP relationships fall apart.

A city is a group of people subscribing to a set of life principles. What those interdynamic principles are can affect the longevity of the city.

If the population is strictly transactional, then little cracks in the $$ cause big problems in stability.

Robert
Robert
4 years ago

In my opinion and experience , similar things transpire in cities as do rural areas. Many rural areas with ” right leaning ” city and county governments have gone bust as well. The main difference is in the scale and reaction of the affected parties. Having lived in both large cities and rural communities, there have always been animosity and misunderstanding concerning both modes of living. The rust belt stretches well beyond Detroit . Economic destruction is just more evident to the eye in populations in the millions. It’s fascinating that a better grasp of the underlying mechanics is not… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

“The rust belt stretches well beyond Detroit . Economic destruction is just more evident to the eye in populations…”

Good point.

Question for you…..

You think feminism and egalitarian equalism is as prevalent rurally vs. urban?

The economic failures are downstream effects of upstream universal failures regardless of location. I agree to that.

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Rollo

https://twitter.com/RationalMale/status/1124390289660162048

http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poems_tommy.htm

We aren’t no thin red ‘eroes, nor we aren’t no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An’ if sometimes our conduck isn’t all your fancy paints,
Why, single men in barricks don’t grow into plaster saints;
While it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an` Tommy, fall be’ind,”
But it’s ” Please to walk in front, sir,” when there’s trouble in the wind
There’s trouble in the wind, my boys, there’s trouble in the wind,
O it’s ” Please to walk in front, sir,” when there’s trouble in the wind.

Robert
Robert
4 years ago

Urban and rural areas still populated by humans with all of the attending human nature. It’s becomes more of a numbers game. Rural women still benefit from feminism and don’t fight the sisterhood for the most part. Lots of dishonesty and lip service rurally as people attempt to claim moral highgrounds. It’s basically the same. Choose opposition points geographically – pro and anti, using the same tactics with the same tribal sense of correctness. The main thing is that none of the ” suffering ” is relieved on either side for very long. Contentment is not a human charecterist overall.… Read more »

blogster
blogster
4 years ago

Sentient Wow, this sounds like The bodybuilding.com forum during the 2000s. Full of ‘dudes’ calling people ‘phaggots’ and asking them ‘Do you even lift?’. You’re pre-supposing a hell of a lot in your responses, seemingly to come across as an authority on these issues. You fall into the classic RSD fan boi poster assumption – presuming women are constantly fucking the guys that AREN’T the ones posting on forums, as if every other dude who isn’t on forums has got it figured out. You’re like the undergrad who has taken a semester course and then acts as the world’s foremost… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Blogster Got me pegged😂 ” Game’ is not the answer when it wasn’t the question that was asked.” This is just stupid. You obviously have little understanding of social and intersexual dynamics and are hiding a shit ton behind this inexperience. Those girls all celibate? No. So deduce who they are fucking… Yup. Those limp Soi boys who arent you. You can flee, or you can figure things out. Up to you big baller… But this: “it was a very insular, safe-space liberal bubble. Where men publicly say they watch such crap as Orange is the New Black and coo… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
4 years ago

In a coffee shop today and yesterday the audio was either an oldies playlist or a local oldies broadcast station. It is positively painful to listen to some of the hits from the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s now. The utter pedestalization of women, the total saturation of blue-pill is tiresome and repulsive. I used to like some of those tunes. Now it’s like fingernails down a chalkboard. Blues tunes have largely held up, and Frank “Broken Hearts Are For Assholes” Zappa is largely timeless. Classical music is a mixed bag, because some 19th century music is not just romantic but… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

” I’m trying to understand the bigger picture sociological dynamics, because I find this place bizarre.” In the spirit of sinko-de-my-o…..hola mi amigo, blogster. Bienvenido to the RP world-o…te amo mi spanglish. The point of living an unplugged life is authentically living it. Now, if you’ve got some other intention after unplugging…boldly unplugging others, being yo badass self, popping off on some random web site…well hell, you got yo!self a game plan there…and…..you will have your 110 kg balbo-beard badass handed to you….and yet not be laid. Man, you got some chops yo! Toughing it here and yet no poosy,… Read more »

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

Blogster I’m not asking for ‘game’ advice, I’m trying to understand the bigger picture sociological dynamics, because I find this place bizarre. I’ve arrived in a strange city where even yesterday at work, the ONE guy willing to say he was more conservative leaning confided it was a very insular, safe-space liberal bubble. Where men publicly say they watch such crap as Orange is the New Black and coo over Game of Thrones like 14 year olds. I’m already observing a significant majority of couples where the woman clearly wears the pants and the men do what they’re told. Body… Read more »

wahoo Mcdaniels
4 years ago

@Blogster As a top 20% guy in the SMP you won’t get to far discussing your point of view on the web as most have never seen the view from here. I see the same things you’re seeing daily and am not surprised ,one thing to watch for is having the jealous sexual beta in a control position at work as it will fuck your career. But still you will be leveraged by both men and women in today’s world as they are both trained bitches. What it sounds like is your eyes are opening to what is happening around… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

SJF

Really dislike and disagree with that while line of reasoning. This is the “match the hatch” approach that leads to the “build a better…” phenomenon and negates basic Game principles, attraction switches etc.

This kind of thinking is very seductive to Rational Males steeped in dog logic. It’s dangerous.

Replace “match the hatch” with calibration based on game principles and real time responses. And that’s not semantics.

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Wahoo

A marketplace has buyers and sellers. In this example we have unwilling buyers and unwilling sellers.

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

“Really dislike and disagree with that while line of reasoning. This is the “match the hatch” approach that leads to the “build a better…” phenomenon and negates basic Game principles, attraction switches etc.” I get what you are saying Sentient. Perhaps those passages were inappropriate out of context (for Blogster), although the context of BLL’s book was about building a better male in the sexual market place and which includes better at Game principles and attraction switches. Going from winner to loser with women. And I suppose I am more solipsistic about “build a better…”, be attractive, don’t be unattractive… Read more »

AC
AC
4 years ago

Hi Rollo,
Any thought about moving the timing of the Orlando Convention for 2020 up to the summer months? The reason I ask is that teachers generally can’t take a week off during the school year. I know Orlando is brutally hot from May to September, but you might get more guys to come to the convention.

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

SJF

“Is “build a better” really binary and not inclusive with employing Game principles and attraction switches?”

You want to learn how to build something? Build feelz.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

It’s ok to be yourself if you are Tom Brady…right? I’m with Sentient. RP isn’t a induction process of building a better man. It’s reductive…stripping away the lacquer layers of false thinking and phony stacks and clever pressure flips…about girls,…about yourself…about the world… The result is a man’s own detoxified soi-disant Tom Brady. Comfortable in his authenticity, efficient, plays to win, risk is built into the dynamic. That’s all the world wants and values and will pay plenty for that as $$ is all it has to negotiate your soulful genius to help them see what they’re missing. I’m not… Read more »

ollieoxenfree1
4 years ago

@Blogster The social environment you find yourself in, is as you astutely described, a haven for the diktats of the feminine imperative. Five years ago these pant wearing women would group together and go out and dance around their handbags in nightclubs and bars. Rebuffing the advances of any man foolish enough to try his luck. The message to onlookers ‘we’re out to have a good time and we don’t need the company of men to accomplish this.’ Over the last five years a change occurred and women found they did need men. Though they would only engage on their… Read more »

wahoo Mcdaniels
4 years ago

Sentient, you can take the cat out of the jungle, you can’t take the jungle out of the cat. You can however train a big dog to act small till he finds out he’s a big dog.

Robert
Robert
4 years ago

” the suburbs ” are a blue pill fantasy. Women are still women, or don’t you bother reading rational male? What happened 5 years ago that I missed ? A man would do well to put aside notions of unicorns and snowflakes. Admittedly, there’s some terrible advice that proves that the beta is extremely difficult to kill.

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Ollie “They’re hungry and they’ll look at you, as though dinner has been served.” And they go home with the guys they are fucking… Maybe they thinkbof you while doing so. And you go home with your dick in your hand. Does not sound like fun. Guess how I know… You can be the dreamiest McDreamboat that ever boated… If you do not present a SEXUAL threat and you do not know how to ACT on that… Well you are a handsome rich tall [fill in the blanks] eunuch. Enjoy your fantasy as being TOP of the MARKET… Lol Seriously… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Said in the spirit of every lost boy who’s said “but what does she see in THAT guy?”…

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Wahoo

“Sentient, you can take the cat out of the jungle, you can’t take the jungle out of the cat. You can however train a big dog to act small till he finds out he’s a big dog.”

Aptly stated and I agree. Bit how does that big dog fuck that cat??? Few cats are throwing themselves at dogs in the language the dog understands… And 9 of 10 times the one that breaks through and GRABS that cock, will be average…

Been there…

ollieoxenfree1
4 years ago

@Robert

“Women are still women”

Although indoctrination levels vary.

“What happened 5 years ago that I missed?”

A lot by the looks of things

“A man would do well to put aside notions of unicorns and snowflakes”

A man called Robert by any chance? Or do you prefer to be associated with your alt account, Foxguy.

“Admittedly, there’s some terrible advice that proves that the beta is extremely difficult to kill.”

You would know. So I can’t argue with that.

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

Sentient SJF “Is “build a better” really binary and not inclusive with employing Game principles and attraction switches?” You want to learn how to build something? Build feelz. Nice. Thanks for the reductive thoughts. And Eh, thanks for your thoughts too. As Eh has been noted to point out that after a certain point in Red Pill, it is not about process any more. It’s about executing. There is a difference between newbie Red Pill of any Game and attraction switches (which appears to be where Blogster is) and advanced red pill in which a man has done the work… Read more »

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

Hey what do yall think of this article in Rollo’s feed?

https://quillette.com/2015/12/01/why-parenting-may-not-matter-and-why-most-social-science-research-is-probably-wrong/

Personally I think there’s too many old fat guys with clueless wonders for children and want nothing to do with the idea that they might at all be responsible for what’s happening with their own families.

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

Ahhh,

Rollo, I know you are busy at the Patriarchs Convention, but a long comment in response to Yollo’s question about thoughts on parenting got eaten by moderation.

kfg
kfg
4 years ago

The worm of Ouroboros disappears down its own gullet as a baritone man who identifies as a woman plays a baritone man:

https://pjmedia.com/trending/biological-man-identifies-as-a-woman-but-plays-a-man-as-the-first-transgender-lead-in-u-s-opera/

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
4 years ago

Y. Comanche Hey what do yall think of this article in Rollo’s feed? I think it is 3 and 1/2 years old for a start. Most social ‘science” isn’t even replicable, that’s what the replicability crisis is largely about. Real science makes predictions, although often with some error possible. Social “science” cannot do so, because some of its premises are false. Nobody is a blank-slate , ‘nurture is all” type with their own children, in my experience. Nature vs. nurture is gradually being settled by genetic studies that often merely confirm what agriculturalists of the last N – thousand years… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

“women save the feminine imperative nonsense for their 9 to 5” Untrue as women have the right to their preferences, have the ability to choose and do act on that regardless of the time a day. It’s none of my business if those preferences are short-term frivolous and long-term destructive. The feminine imperative isn’t nonsense, btw. Women are not pure evo-bio zombies either. Attractive masculinity aligns with her lower-order sensibility and then sexually successful men close the deal by allowing her to frewillingly choose him AND the responsibility for the outcome. If and when she chooses independently to have sex,… Read more »

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

@anonymous

The Red Pill accurately predicts human behavior, so fuck social science, don’t you agree?

@Sentient

“Apples and trees”

That’s a bad analogy. Apples can’t divorce-rape you and they can’t thank you for your time and your concern. They’ll let you eat them though…..

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

“The Red Pill accurately predicts human behavior, so fuck social science, don’t you agree?”

TRP is an observation of the intersexual dynamic. It is not the intersexual dynamic.

Science is an observation of nature. It is not nature.

Apply the correct metric to measure the value of an observation. Not doing so leads to erroneous or incomplete data. It’s up to us realize the limitations of science and TRP and use or avoid the mismeasurement in application accordingly.

We have a choice to run with bad data….or not….but let’s not call it accurate data.

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
4 years ago

So far. So good.

scribblerg
scribblerg
4 years ago

@Sentient – Great, pithy, dense insights for @Blogster. @Blogster – Do you want help? Sentient gave you gems and a path to work your way through the problems you are having. You seem to think “game” or “PUA” is something separate from your normal way of being. No, game is a way of using the praxeological truths of human mating strategies to one’s advantage, that’s all. And you suck at it, by your own account. Get this. You suck at picking up women. It has nothing to do with the politics. I mean, you do get that in the little… Read more »

Robert
Robert
4 years ago

Okay, I request the help of other commenters here. Is ” qualifying ” to any woman actually a part of pua or red pill? I think this is bad advice myself because it’s in the woman’s ” frame “, or does that mean that I am larping?

( what is larping anyway? Does it have anything to do with being unable to free oneself from a woman’s frame )

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

“Women have a “dualistic” mating strategy and are always interested in both “provider” types and “lover” types. ”

Meet

Enjoy your fantasy as being TOP of the MARKET… Lol

Seriously the whole SMP and SMV, as presented by the man centric manosphere is seriously flawed. You need to go game girls and pick them up to really understand this.

kfg
kfg
4 years ago

@Robert: She isn’t going to dance with you if she doesn’t want to dance with you. Less assembly instructions, more feels. Here’s a thought: what if not bending into her frame is one of the things that qualifies you to her? Qualifying doesn’t mean pussy begging, it just means that she feels like dancing with you. Chesty Puller’s 10,000 followed him into the gates of Hell, and kicked Hell’s ass, even though their natural inclination was to feel like quitting. They wouldn’t have done that if Chesty hadn’t qualified himself to them as a leader. Do you think he did… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Robert

Replace “qualifying” with IOI – Indicator of Interest for this purpose. Behold the IOI/IOD chart
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LARP – Live Action Role Play

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

LARP – example
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kfg
kfg
4 years ago

“Replace “qualifying” with IOI – Indicator of Interest . . .” “Qualify” is salesman jargon which most people will interpret by the dictionary, which may tend to lead them astray. “Qualify” means not only an interest, but the ability. A salesman doesn’t want to waste time on someone who’s only there to drool but doesn’t have the money (or clean record, or permission, or whatever else would disqualify them from completing the transaction). And it works the other way ’round. As a buyer you don’t want to waste your time with someone who can’t actually deliver. A player hitting up… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

Robert, “Okay, I request the help of other commenters here. Is ” qualifying ” to any woman actually a part of pua or red pill? ” Intent is everything. If a guy enters a relationship using a woman as an external validation i.e. a trophy wife, he is devaluing his inherent worth. If he believes his value lies within her relationship to him or separately or in combination with his environment, his job or whatever, if and when those vanish in divorce court or job loss he must conclude he, as a person, loses value. Depending on how much he… Read more »

1111
4 years ago

Hi Rollo, just wondering if you received my email about the convention or it ended up in your spam folder? Would have been sent a day or so after you posted this. Thanks.

IAS
IAS
4 years ago

@Rollo: will you have (English) copies of your books for sale in Poland?

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