Women’s Existential Fear

One of the primary perspectives of the Red Pill as a praxeology in understanding intersexual dynamics is evolutionary psychology. Even the ‘Classic Era‘ pickup artists referenced evo-psych, often without realizing it, in explaining various aspects of Game. Mystery Method itself was fundamentally rooted in the understanding of women’s (and men’s) evolutionary ‘circuitry’ as a basis for developing modern Game techniques. These were the first forays into women’s evolved mental firmware as a means to understanding the mating game we experience today – and how to use it to our best advantage as men.

However, that was really just the starting point. The Red Pill is much more dynamic than Game applications. As I’ve developed in other essays (and talks), the fundamentals of how the sexes relate with one another follow our biological realities, but also the environmental and social realities of our ancestral past. We’re still using the same circuitry in this era that our ancestors did in the past, only the context has changed. Today I want to explore the influences the legacy of this ancestry places on men and women, and also attempt to answer some questions as to why men and women fear certain aspects of the other’s evolved nature.

In my last article I made a distinction between our ancestral, localized, sexual marketplace versus the globalized SMP we find ourselves in today. This is a good starting point. In our hunter-gatherer beginnings our potential mates either came from within our tribal groups, or, when our tribe managed to overwhelm another tribe, we took war brides to breed with. This is what defined our localized SMP in the past. In fact I’d argue that a deficit in ‘marriageable’ females from within a local tribe was actually a prime motivator for going to war with an outside tribe. This is an important distinction because a lot of those same motivational dynamics are reflected today’s global SMP, and how modern intersexual dynamics have evolved.

A Need for Control

A lot of the need for social control we see coming from women and feminism today is part of an ancestral, evolved desire on the part of women to seek security in a chaotic world. Ever since the advent of unilaterally female-controlled contraception, the Sexual Revolution, and the rise of the Gynocracy, an unprecedented power over the birthing process of the human race has been transferred to only one of the two sexes necessary to perpetuate our species.

“Abortion is Eugenics” (or dysgenics) is a saying I’ve been seeing on Twitter recently. Since the Sexual Revolution we’ve not just ’empowered’ women, but men have systematically ceded any claim to our own paternity while at the same time presumed that women should, by default, be trusted with knowing what’s best for the human birthing process and raising new generations. But it’s not just abortion that is eugenics, it’s also Hypergamy and the dozens of other aspects of intersexual dynamics that western societies just presumes women should know best how to proceed with. We took the women of the Baby Boom generation at their collective word that they’d be more merciful rulers than men if we just gave them the option to be sexual with us. We foolishly believed women would police the worst aspects of their own sexual strategy after we willingly ceded power in exchange for sexual access.

Last month a reader sent me a link to a story about how Ireland had just ceded more of its own authority over their country’s reproductive fate to women by legalizing abortion. The very Catholic island of Celts has made Hypergamy its ruling motive after many years of feminist pressure. Irish women celebrated the decision to allow them to kill their unwanted children. In fact many Catholic countries all over South America are in various stages of legalizing abortion. But the sentiment about abortion in this decade is no longer one of it being a necessary evil as it was in the time of Roe vs. Wade. Today it’s cause for overt celebration among women and men alike.

Before I get run up the flagpole by critics here, my opposition to abortion does not (primarily) stem from moral reasons, it stems from objectively following the power dynamics involved and the latent purpose for abortion. Abortion is eugenics; it is the ceding of any claim to influencing paternity that men may have had for the past 100,000 years of human evolution.

So, why will women fight tooth and nail for the ‘right’ to free and safe abortion over the course of multiple generations? Why is the right to end her (and the father’s) child’s life in utero such an imperative for women?

Ask women and the feminist boilerplate answer is always “My body, my choice!“, but why is it so important to cut men entirely out of the reproductive process? What is the motivation for legally disenfranchising men from even 1% of a say in a child that is at least half his genetic legacy? This is also one of the greatest of offenses to women; that a man might have some control over women’s bodies. “Hands off my uterus!” that too is another rallying cry, but why is it such an abhorrent thought that men might have some influence in who gets born and who doesn’t?

Existential Fears & The Hypergamous Filter

There are certain fears that human beings are born with. Our evolved mental firmware is highly attuned to our own survival. That may seem simple, but we’re born with certain instinctual reservations about our environments. Snakes, spider, animals with sharp pointy natural weapons are critters we don’t have to be taught to stay away from. That fear, that caution, is part of our onboard system when we leave the womb. The same is generally true of heights and tight confined places. We also have a very defined natural instinct for revulsion. There’s actually an entire area of evo-psych study devoted to the human revulsion response. Part of our innate firmware makes us disgusted by feces, dead carcasses and putrefaction. If it’s unsanitary and might make us sick or diseased ourselves we’re repelled by it – unless we’re conditioned not to be.

The above are some pretty basic existential fears most people have. We have evolved inbuilt firmware that does its best to keep us alive, but there are other, more complex fears and accompanying revulsions that look out for our wellbeing too. The one I want to focus on here is what the Red Pill refers to as the Hypergamous Filter. That’s kind of a loose way of saying women have innate revulsions and distrusts of men who would otherwise like nothing better than the experience of having sex with them.

From our ancestral past right up until the Sexual Revolution in the mid-1960s a woman having sex was fraught with dangerous consequences. For about 100,000 years evolution wrote a breeding subroutine into the hindbrains of every human female – always doubt a man’s quality.

The Hypergamous Filter has many ways of determining quality. Last week I mentioned that women universally use a man’s height as a physical qualification for arousal/attraction. That’s one obvious criteria; check the height box, move on. I have mentioned in other essays that Hypergamy is always based on doubt – doubt that a man is the best she can do – but also the doubt as to whether that guy will stick around and stay committed to parental investment.

This Hypergamous doubt is an existential fear for women.

“What if he’s faking it?”
“What if he really isn’t who he claims to be?”
“Will he stick around after sex?”
“What if I get pregnant with his child?”

These questions, these doubts, do not stem from a woman’s Rational Interpretive Process, they are deeply rooted in her Instinctual Process.

These questions are asked beneath a woman’s cognition, and as such they comprise part of an unconscious Hypergamous filtering process that is linked to both the revulsion instinct and genuine sexual desire. This is a risk aversion instinct that has very real, life-threatening, implications to it. This is a self-preservation skepticism on the limbic level and it is the primary existential fear a woman has. And women will do anything to alleviate it. Women will do anything to ensure they have failsafes against the life-threatening consequences of having that Hypergamous filter deceived.

Why is there a ceaseless effort to criminalize PUAs approaching women on the street? Because it implies a deception of a Beta male impersonating an Alpha male for the purposes of sex. This is a crime against the Existential Fear.

The Existential Fear in women is that their innate Hypergamous Filter, their Feminine Intuition, might be fooled, and by being fooled she may either die or have her reproductive potential compromised for her lifetime by bearing and raising the child of man who is a suboptimal Hypergamous choice for her – a man who exerted his will over her Hypergamous choosing filters.

In our ancestral past, pregnancy, and/or parental investment, could be a death sentence if a woman’s Hypergamous Filter wasn’t supremely sensitive and obsessively refined. The Hypergamous Filter also evolved as a contingency against men’s biological imperative – unlimited access to unlimited sexuality.

That’s not to say pair bonding wasn’t a feature of our ancestral past, it was also a foundational aspect of mating, but it is to say that a man’s investment cost was much lower than a woman’s when it came to reproduction. That’s simple biology defining a sexual strategy for men. Pair bonding would usually last as long as it took for that child to reach survival autonomy (4-7 years). And that’s not accounting for men’s proclivity to seek extra-pair mating opportunities while pair bonded. I’ll explore this in the next essay.

Fast Times in the 21st Century

Now lets fast forward the Existential Fear and the Hypergamous Filter up to the last 60 years or so. One of the most socially destabilizing inventions of the 20th century was affording women the option to invest herself, or not, in the choices she made about her own sexuality. Unilaterally female-controlled birth control was effectively the greatest Hypergamous failsafe ever invented. It released women from the responsibility of a bad Hypergamous decision. But what it didn’t do is erase that filtering process from women’s psyches. We take it for granted, but HBC (hormonal birth control) unfettered Hypergamy for the first time in human history. And as a result men ceded more and more of their paternal interests in the human reproductive process over to women in exchange for the promise of pregnancy-free sexual access. Ostensibly, unlimited access to unlimited sexuality. Needless to say this also exacerbated women’s sexual strategy to tactically filter out unwanted males and emphasize sex with chosen males.

But the greatest sexual bargain of the 20th-21st century catastrophically backfired on men because, for all the boons of HBC, it couldn’t rewrite 100,000 years of evolved Hypergamy. And, if anything, it exacerbated women’s desire for failsafe’s against the Existential Fear of having her Hypergamous Filter fooled by deceptive men.

The social and political power men ceded to women in the wake of the Sexual Revolution has been used for one unitary purpose by women – to ensure against the Existential Fear. Why is abortion now something to be celebrated rather than mournfully accepted as necessary evil of this century? Because it alleviates the Existential Fear of bearing and raising the product of a bad Hypergamous choice.

Why did no fault divorce morph into the misandrous divorce industry we have today? It alleviates the Existential Fear. A one-sided divorce industry ensures security, support and resources that would’ve otherwise been her undoing in times before the pill. Why are the stigmas of single motherhood that existed just 60 years ago now replaced with rewarding women for their choice to become single mothers? It alleviates the Existential Fear.

When women were afforded unprecedented power and influence their first order of business was directed at changing laws to alleviate the Existential Fear. Virtually every social change, every political change, every egoistic “you go gurl” self-entitlement since the Sexual Revolution that women have initiated has had one latent purpose – alleviating the Existential Fear.

And finally, why is it that Red Pill awareness, practicing Game, a united Manosphere, and yes, even MGTOW, are perceived as an existential threat to the Feminine Imperative?

Because it all threatens to upset the security that women believe they’re entitled to in creating failsafes for women’s Existential Fear. Exposing the machinations of the Blue Pill and teaching men to unplug from a system that makes them a utility in a female-correct social order is an intolerable threat to women’s security from the Existential Fear, but it is also a new challenge the power base that security is built upon.

This is part one of a blog series.

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ex-cartoonist
5 years ago

@ palmasailor If you’ve found comic strips ‘The Ex’ and ‘Check Mating’, those are indeed mine. I also wrote a book about my divorce which I’ve had printed up here in Amsterdam, but it’s not online at present so I’m not sure whether what you found is mine if it’s in book form. And, yes, it was a kind of therapy. Anyway, the current situation is that my son will soon be turning twenty-one and he, his mother and I will be meeting up for dinner to celebrate. The relationship between the three of us is as good as I… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

White Knighting for religion. Isn’t that sweet? Walawala, Younger women don’t really have very many expectations other than what’s popular on social media at the moment.😁 It’s interesting watching my daughters trying to interact with guys that will walk through a door first and let it slam behind them. They don’t really care because young folks have lost any sense of decorum ( which wasn’t ever a ” real ” thing, but still all men knew certain things, as did women, but young people today don’t even know much concerning interactions) and they mostly live a life with the volume… Read more »

theasdgamer
5 years ago

White Knighting for religion.

…because cowards are so cool

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

If someone appears to criticize ” Christianity/Christians ” ( whatever the fuck that actually means ), how exactly does that make them cowards?

So if someone critiques Islam, they are cowards, right? Other than your biased ego investment, what’s the difference?

Christ himself never met a ” Christian “. Get over yourself.😀

theasdgamer
5 years ago

If someone appears to criticize ” Christianity/Christians ” ( whatever the fuck that actually means ), how exactly does that make them cowards?

Semiramis wasn’t being cowardly–just pathetic.

Christ himself never met a ” Christian “. Get over yourself.

“The disciples were first called Christians at Antioch.”

Somebody forgot his Bible. Probably being “spiritual” or some shit. XD

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

My point stands unaltered by…whatever that stuff was that you posted.

Christ never met a ” Christian “. You’re following a Nicene derivative.

He wouldn’t recognize you as ” Christian “, as in living as he lived, and believing what he believed.

Organized religion has a way of doing that.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

Blax sticks to his operating principles. It’s worked so far within his immediate company so why fuck with what works?

Commit to nothing but himself.

That’s why he struggles connecting with young men. Young men understand the intent of a man who can’t walk back from himself.

He sees himself as peak in human experience with the occasional aw-shucks-I-ain’t-nobody-special false humility.

We see through that too. Hence his weird passive-aggressive defense of non-Christianity….it allows him the high road of higher thinking without explaining shit.

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

Lol

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

Not passive aggressive. I’m not a fan of organized religion and find most of it to be bullshit as witnessed by observing the practitioners Plain enough Eh? For the record: I don’t struggle with connecting with young men. I have a hard time grasping the fear they hold towards being grown men. I’m still speaking to them a few dozen at a time, but some get Last Rites until a later date. I’ve gone over my experience with ” followers ” of religion speaking out of both sides of their mouths here before. ” He sees himself as peak in… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

So what is a Christian? A couple of billion people on the planet all claim to be Christians, but their beliefs, doctrines and practices vary widely. What does being a Christian mean? Let’s take a quick look at what the Bible says a Christian is. The word Christian is used three times in the New Testament (Acts 11:26 ; Acts 26:28 ; 1 Peter 4:16). Followers of Jesus Christ were first called “Christians” in Antioch (Acts 11:26) because they believed in Christ and followed His example. The word was initially used by their detractors in a derogatory sense, but believers… Read more »

theasdgamer
5 years ago

@EI We should call him Mr. Virtue Signaller. Very much like what Scribbs does (“banging HB9s”), only slightly more annoying. That’s why he struggles connecting with young men. Young men understand the intent of a man who can’t walk back from himself. Yeah, his way works for him, but if you aren’t Blax, Blax’s way may not work for you. And Blax sure as hell can’t tell you how to get to where he is because he can’t calibrate where you are. I was quoting scripture, but Blax goes off into some bullshit about the Nicene Council which had zip… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

…. Don’t hate
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theasdgamer
5 years ago

Followers of Jesus Christ were first called “Christians” in Antioch (Acts 11:26) because they believed in Christ

…so far, so good, but I don’t think ye ken what ye say…

and followed His example

…and we’re into bullshit territory…people didn’t follow Christ’s example any better then than today…”all people are like that” (APALT)….

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

spoken like a true pseudo churchian.

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

I loves ya anyway. ( like Christ…lol )

theasdgamer
5 years ago

spoken like a true pseudo churchian.

Well, I don’t even play a churchian on tv and I’ve done my share of ranting about churchians. But it’s patently obvious that there were serious problems in the church of Paul’s time…that’s mostly why Paul wrote so many epistles–to address problems in the church…despite never becoming pope (or even a measly archbishop)…Paul didn’t set out to write theological treatises…Paul might have laughed at the idea that people used his writing to develop theology…although Paul apparently did some formal teaching for the church for a while…

theasdgamer
5 years ago

I loves ya anyway.

That’s very Christian-like of ya. (I always enjoy our little bouts and if you listen really intently you might hear me laughing.)

theasdgamer
5 years ago

Don’t hate…obfuscate…

S. Patel
S. Patel
5 years ago

You know that feeling that you get sometimes, “this is it, I’m going to fucking die”. And it doesn’t happen and you somehow are alive another day?

That is how women feel when they are approached by lower tier men.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

We all love you too Blax. But it doesn’t erase the fact that you’re failing yourself by measuring yourself against yourself and when that doesn’t work you pull out your 401K and bang anecdotes for the young guys like j or Hank. Hence your advice stops there. The most formative time In your life related to the intersexual dynamic was during your divorce. You barely give that two cents here. You give more time to how Christians are hypocrites. The point of Christianity is the ability to admit hypocrisy and learn to be better for it. Measuring yourself here in… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago

EhIntellect

The point of Christianity is the ability to admit hypocrisy and learn to be better for it.

By that metric, there are very, very few True Christians in the world and zero commenting here.

Zero.

theasdgamer
5 years ago

He wouldn’t recognize you as ” Christian “, as in living as he lived, and believing what he believed.

Organized religion has a way of doing that.

Calibration, as in, lack thereof. An ongoing problem for Blax.

theasdgamer
5 years ago

By that metric, there are very, very few True Christians in the world and zero commenting here.

More virtue signalling and retards falling for it.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

True Christians = Chad = nonexistent

Ok.

Then we are back to measuring ourselves with ourselves. Then the .45 is back in the mouth as I’ve hit top end.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

Frankly it’s not a big deal if you subscribe to Christianity or not as it’s not about your adherence to it. Hypergamy is a bitch. She don’t care a rat’s ass about your adherence.

The law still stands.

Let’s call Rollo Tomassi’s Iron Rules into question too. Throw in Pooks laws too.

Let’s say, if you’re not true red pill or you’re not allowed to practice red pill. That seems logical.

Well hell, I got one better, let’s just burn this motherfucker to the ground and call it progress.

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

Back on topic. Via Rational twats…

https://thecitybachelor.com/1-in-5-american-women-are-sugar-babies/

Amusing…

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

Read that initially and dismissed it. Re-read it, and the math used makes me dismiss it again. Looked around at 10 women in the age cohort in my immediate circle and dismissed it yet again. 1 in 5? Then I should see or know of one. But I’m not all that acquainted with that world, so maybe the author is correct, but in its face it doesn’t make sense using the math. What’s interesting also, is the 2 commenters saying stuff about L.A. And NYC. Meh, maybe. Population counts. There are more hot dog carts and bagel shops on the… Read more »

anon
anon
5 years ago

But I’m not all that acquainted with that world, so maybe the author is correct, but in its face it doesn’t make sense using the math.

Well, they used the “number of active members” on a website to get the numbers.
And we know that’s how Ashley Madison did it, so it must be legit.

Centuries
Centuries
5 years ago

Here is a blog worth a read from one of the Older Divorced Guys guys Rollo helped out.

According to Marco Russo “I’m writing this blog as an outlet for myself, as well as an awareness of what’s out there for men after 50 who have recently gotten divorced.”

https://divorcedmanafter50.blogspot.com/2018/10/divorce-after-50-for-men-transition.html

Incubus_Rising
Incubus_Rising
5 years ago

“That is how women feel when they are approached by lower tier men.” This is getting boring … work on a new lead.

Centuries
Centuries
5 years ago

Sentient – Back on topic. Via Rational twats…https://thecitybachelor.com/1-in-5-american-women-are-sugar-babies/

Richard Cooper did an interview with the author, after meeting up with him at the 21 Convention last fall,

j
j
5 years ago

“Then I should see or know of one”

I mean…. it’s not like they walking around with a sign on their forehead…

Only two confirmed sugar girls I know, was by ease dropping on their conversation with their girl friends. If I hadn’t, I wouldnt have “seen or known of one” either.

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

J I know girls differently.😁 I don’t really put anything past anyone, and I’m not overly judgemental about what people choose to do with themselves, so over time there aren’t a lot of ” secrets “. Strangers, you gotta read. Women aren’t hard to read, men can be more difficult. Dating sites/internet offer a concentration. If one looks at gay motorcycle sites a lot, he might draw the conclusion that 1 in 5 men are gay Harley riders. I know chicks that have done straight up porn for a living, and some that were basically prostituting. I once watched a… Read more »

j
j
5 years ago

“I know chicks that have done straight up porn for a living, and some that were basically prostituting”

By actually having a conversation with them you discovered this “secret” about them. You can’t just look at a girl crossing the street and tell me you can tell, she’s NEVER solicited $$$ for sexual favors.

But yeah I agree the 1 in 5 girls in the U.S. are sugar babies is probably not accurate. Maybe 1 in 5 girls that go to $50K/Yr universities have done some sugar daddy shit.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

Sugar babies… Let’s define the average sugar baby: 18-24 y.o., HB >6, and psychologically desires financial independence which means they are mostly dependent on themselves ATM. They are needful women, emit confidence but shit tests only mildly. They’re not assertive or realistic in their own lives and as such any increase in accounts receivable corresponds with an immediate accounts payables increase. They’re not awash in cash by 30. They’re not LTR sugar babies at all times…that’d require single tricks to fill the income gaps. So they have to go all into overlapping BB situations and satisfy the AF elsewhere or… Read more »

Novaseeker
Novaseeker
5 years ago

But yeah I agree the 1 in 5 girls in the U.S. are sugar babies is probably not accurate. Maybe 1 in 5 girls that go to $50K/Yr universities have done some sugar daddy shit.

I’d say it varies a lot geographically, with some cities having much higher sugaring than others. I would guess that between 10-20% of women in the age/attraction range have gone to the sites to see what they can attract/reel in, but only 50% of that or less actually take cash for sex at some point.

Incubus_Rising
Incubus_Rising
5 years ago

@Ex-Cartoonist There was a girl interested in me around the time my mother passed away. I cried a lot when I was alone, never in front others. This girl kept me company and kept prodding me about my childhood. For once, I could not control and few drops of tears slipped from my eyes. That is all it took. And the same evening out of no where, she kept referring to me as her best friend, and said that “she wished” she could be interested in me. Her prodding and getting emotional with me was a shit test. Never be… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago

@Sentient @Blaximus Citybachelor has a book to sell, so he’s not exactly an unbiased source. Although his arithmetic operations are ok. SeekingArrangements is the equivalent of an online “click here” survey, so the chance of sample error is pretty high, especially given the fact that they surely overreport their “girls” for obvious reasons. Thus “one in five” for the 19 – 34 age group is almost certainly too high. It’s also going to be heavily skewed towards LA, SF, Seattle, Miami, DC area, NYC. I’m sure that 20% of the female population of NoTrees, Texas or Frozen Lake, Alaska or… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago

Here is a “heat map” of SB’s, brought to you by the word “nonuniform”. Maybe you can spot your town or region?

https://www.seeking.com/sugar-dating-heat-map

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

@ AR

In my vast sugar baby experience, I’d suggest karaoke bars. Lol.

Oh, just recently 1 in 5 college women are raped too. Maybe they’re the same girls. I generally believe all sensational factoids as they confirm purity ball and virginity contracts I pressure all young girls to consider. Lol.

What’s a young girl’s option anyways now? Whoring to pay their college loans is reality until all college is tuition free. Lol.

I’m not sure y’all know I’m just foolin’. Lol.

rugby11
rugby11
5 years ago

interesting

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

Disgruntled Earthling has had sugar babies.

What’s his opinion?

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
5 years ago

I’ve posted a lot about sugar babies back when I was on Seeking Arrangement (now just called “Seeking” lol – they’ve also changed the terminology to “Successful” members for men and “Attractive” members for women from SD and SB – and removed the field where the women can specify how much money they want). 1 in 5 definitely way too high – and def geographic variation. Maybe 1 in 5 in the relevant demographic have checked out the sites after hearing about it from a girlfriend at most. And yes, it’s perfectly possible to bang them without paying and there… Read more »

rugby11
rugby11
5 years ago

Body as a temple

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

“because if I was alpha enough, they couldn’t help themselves and switched me from BB to AF in their heads and resulted in some amazing desire sex (some of my best Game memories are of the lays where I was able to convert a girl from pure BB asking for cash to full on AF desire sex and wanting me and no talk of money).”

Nice.

This above encapsulated woman’s existential fear and that real fear of zero consequence drove her to fall in AF love with you.

Moral of the story: AWALT.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

The sugar babies I experience every month the sugar babies I experienced are used to bata supplication.

The DLV men crowd around the women in a phony competition of phony female desire. The thirst is so bad any attention is good attention for these guys.

These women are the best looking women they’ve ever talk to sexually in their life.

The sugar babies themselves are still women looking for their best catch they can get. Any deviation from the BB norm rattles their nerves.

Centuries
Centuries
5 years ago

EhIntellect [What’s a young girl’s option anyways now? Whoring to pay their college loans is reality until all college is tuition free. Lol. I’m not sure y’all know I’m just foolin’. Lol.] Sure you’re joking, let’s see… in the last week I saw the local MSM CBS affiliate force the 2 female anchors into discussing the Sugar Baby college ranking article floating around, and how something something it is. Man did those ladies look uncomfortable. LOL. So maybe just maybe the Left Pole is trying to push the poor ole little me, we’re oppressed girls and can’t afford college, please… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

Getting ugly you say?

https://youtu.be/zHKmYCCX4_w

theasdgamer
5 years ago

Babies may enter the game planning to get some sugar, but get distracted from sugar by feelz.

Roused
Roused
5 years ago

“Well, they used the “number of active members” on a website to get the numbers.
And we know that’s how Ashley Madison did it, so it must be legit.“

Bots. Those type of companies are notorious for bots/fake profiles.

DisgruntledEarthling
DisgruntledEarthling
5 years ago

Babies may enter the game planning to get some sugar, but get distracted from sugar by feelz There’s a certain element of truth to this – after all the are just girlz. I’ve been thru about 10 SBs. All were aged between 19 to 22. All except one were pay-per-meet. Most of them are inexperienced newbies that don’t realized just what they’re getting into – its like they’ve swallowed the marketing material about travel, glamour, and all that shit. Most of the time when I’ve pumped and dumped them they delete their profile and quit. So I think the turnover… Read more »

DisgruntledEarthling
DisgruntledEarthling
5 years ago

Oh, forgot to add-

yes, they are all whores in various degrees. A whore is a whore.
they have no realistic realization of what they are doing to themselves.
they all seem to be caught in the careerism trap.
and yeah, I’m a weak-ass bitch for participating in this. lol

DisgruntledEarthling
DisgruntledEarthling
5 years ago

Bots. Those type of companies are notorious for bots/fake profiles.

I didn’t see any of that. I got proposition quite alot and got ‘real’ replies to all my queries. There are a few ‘pros’ and stripper-type girls there, quite a few ‘career’ SBs/whores-in-training, and quite a few total newbies. But I never encountered bots or fake accounts

DisgruntledEarthling
DisgruntledEarthling
5 years ago

@EI The DLV men crowd around the women in a phony competition of phony female desire. The thirst is so bad any attention is good attention for these guys. These women are the best looking women they’ve ever talk to sexually in their life. Haha – true to some extent. However the attention I has wasn’t that ‘exaggerated’. It was more business-like. And yes, they were MUCH better looking than the crap I was dating from PlentyOfFish. My current live-in is at least an eight by African standards (no let’s not get into the rating game nonsense again) EDIT –… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

“I’m turning 60 in about 3 weeks….”

@ DE

Awesome explanation. You’ve brought that topic to a fitting end.

Happy Birthday too.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

@ DE

“I’ve grown to realize I can make the choices I want and not be poisoned by guilt.”

THIS is exactly what I was advocating for recently and your centered MPoO (the only thing a man can trust) creates a sustainable, creative, calm abundance mentality.

Hats off to you.

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

” . . . I’ve grown to realize I can make the choices I want and not be poisoned by guilt.”

Now we’re cookin’ with gas.

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
5 years ago

@Disgruntled Earthling – if you are in Seeking Arrangement, there are certainly some bots/fake accounts. It’s nothing like Ashley Madison – most of SA is real – but you can see suspiciously similar usernames with virtually identical profile text pretty regularly

Ihmc
Ihmc
5 years ago

Since the Sexual Revolution we’ve not just ’empowered’ women, but men have systematically ceded any claim to our own paternity Ordinary men have amply proved to be as malleable to orchestrated propaganda as women. In many mental traits, the only actual disparity between the sexes is what applies to practically every female applies to a big majority of men but not practically every one of them. On the male side, you find exceptions, and excellence. Average folks though, don’t differ so much by sex. Add to this the ancestrally evolved instinct in ordinary males to defer to the female in… Read more »

Ihmc
Ihmc
5 years ago

I’d like nested topics — the ability to reply specifically to a comment, and reply to replies (2-layer deep nesting would be fine with me).

Ihmc
Ihmc
5 years ago

@kfg

Dispiriting how many choose electric induction to cook, thinking they are cooking.

Ihmc
Ihmc
5 years ago

“What if he’s faking it?” “What if he really isn’t who he claims to be?” “Will he stick around after sex?” “What if I get pregnant with his child?” In our ancestral past, pregnancy, and/or parental investment, could be a death sentence if a woman’s Hypergamous Filter wasn’t supremely sensitive and obsessively refined. Aren’t we conflating things a tad, though? You are calling both filters for Alpha Seed and Beta Need Hypergamous Philters. I think they aren’t the same filter. Actually, you can often see that it’s when she is more attracted to you (you are passing her hypergamous filter)… Read more »

theasdgamer
5 years ago

Add to this the ancestrally evolved instinct in ordinary males to defer to the female in order to get her preference as a reward for their bowing down

“Add to this the FI programming in ordinary males to defer to the female in order to get her preference as a reward for their bowing down”

fify

theasdgamer
5 years ago

@SA users

People have discussed finding black and latino lovers on SA and similar platforms. Have you ever hooked up with pretty white women on those platforms? How would you find sugar babies except on those platforms? Are mass sugar baby meetups arranged somehow?

I’m trying to figure out if I’ve actually seen a young woman hooking or how I would spot them (to avoid wasting time on them).

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

They usually carry a SA Union card.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

“Are mass sugar baby meetups arranged somehow?”

Kinda stupid question though ASD excels in that so here goes with the unabridged annotated answer:

No (1).
P
1. No.

Morpheus
5 years ago

[I] “I’d like nested topics — the ability to reply specifically to a comment, and reply to replies (2-layer deep nesting would be fine with me)” .[/I]

Absolutely not… Your suggested format mixes up the chronological order of comments and makes finding newer comments a pain in the ass. Besides, as my comment here shows replying to specific comments is already easy enough without using the nested format.

Morpheus
5 years ago

Heh, I was in a hurry and typoed the html tags, should be < > and </ >

text to quote

Morpheus
5 years ago

Your weakness is a threat to her — a real, visceral, wrenching, involuntary threat to her. She may not even like that she feels threatened by it, and she may be irritated at herself that she does, but she still does. The key to her not feeling threatened by your weakness is you not showing her weakness, but mastery. It is fine to have challenges, as long as you can easily, quickly, and effortlessly demonstrate strong, preferably absolute, mastery of them to her. In that way, she is not threatened by a perception of weakness on your part, and is… Read more »

Morpheus
5 years ago

Most people don’t realize that I have diabetes because I don’t need much insulin throughout the day and am otherwise extremely fit and healthy, but women inevitably discover this when it’s time to inject. Has anyone else had experiences like this? How does one approach the fine art of managing a chronic health condition while preventing the very possession and recognition of said condition from tripping a woman’s hypergamous filters and initiating an unholy shit-test array? I’ve got a couple of chronic health conditions myself. Thankfully, neither are superficially visible, and the woman I am currently dating shares one of… Read more »

GuideDog
GuideDog
5 years ago

In the Netherlands the larger cities have a policy of trying to get women (single moms), who apply for benefits, to tell who -they think- the father of their child(ren) is/are (when the father hasn’t acknowledged the child). They then reclaim (part of the) the benefits from these men. So not only do men have no say in whether the woman keeps the child, They also are obligated to pay for that child, when the woman decides to keep it. So the man, as Rollo pointed out numerous times, has no say in the matter, but still has to carry… Read more »

theasdgamer
5 years ago

Most people don’t realize that I have diabetes because I don’t need much insulin throughout the day and am otherwise extremely fit and healthy, but women inevitably discover this when it’s time to inject. Has anyone else had experiences like this? How does one approach the fine art of managing a chronic health condition while preventing the very possession and recognition of said condition from tripping a woman’s hypergamous filters and initiating an unholy shit-test array? Women will smell out any weakness by the way that you view it. If you suspect that women will see your chronic condition as… Read more »

rugby11
rugby11
5 years ago
Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago

Guide Dog In the Netherlands the larger cities have a policy of trying to get women (single moms), who apply for benefits, to tell who -they think- the father of their child(ren) is/are (when the father hasn’t acknowledged the child). They then reclaim (part of the) the benefits from these men. This policy was set in place in the US about 20 years ago. Do a search on “Bill Clinton” and “deadbeat dads” for details. Plus, in the US, a man who is behind on child support can be put in prison. However, while he is in prison he earns… Read more »

GuideDog
GuideDog
5 years ago

Jeeeezz
That is absolutely apalling

HhH
HhH
5 years ago

Seems they are teaching Morpheus to blame himself, and for not being enough of a heavy-duty domestic appliance at that, for being left by women.

Everybody together: We Ought To Be More Efficient and Useful Appliances For Female To Use: this will make them loOOoooOoOOve us sooo much, and provide a lot of happiness on the whole.
Yay!

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

“I’ve seen the competition out there, and wow, its not hard to outrun at all. ”

Zombieland rule one: Cardio.

Men go to jail for non-payment of child support? How can that be? Oh yes, debtor prison with a few extra steps:

The child support is a decision from the bench. Non-payment is then changed from a civil law issue to contempt of court criminal law thing.

It’s that important to punish men into fear and emanicpate women from responsibility.

Ceasar’s empire, Ceasar’s rules.

SJF
SJF
5 years ago

@Morpheus “Novaseeker, so true! In analyzing the dynamics behind the ending of my second marriage, I realize now my failing in this particular “burden of performance” was the biggest part of the undoing particularly as it relates to financial provisioning. I think one thing often missed or underestimated in these circles is that for LTRs, particularly marriage its NOT just alpha stuff where you can come up short, but also in traditionally “beta” stuff like bringing home the bacon so to speak.” I don’t agree. You are just DEERing. The original discussion was about women’s existential fear of their man… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

“Women may love the Beta, but they only respect the Alpha.”

“No gun no respect… that’s why I always got the gun.”

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

for IAS…

Roused
Roused
5 years ago

Have some new changes been made to the comments plugin in WordPress as @ Rollo mentioned? For sure have the comment field area below the last comment. Fine to leave the one at the bottom of the post but having to scroll all the way to the top is cumbersome, especially on mobile. The mobile experience is a bit clunky. Always phat finger the Read more link and it’s not user friendly. The styling also changes after the Read More is executed. A reader should not have to click Read More to see those styling changes to the typography. Seems… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

Biggest problem on a phone is after you click on a recent Comment, you lose that menu. So you have to go back to the Home Page to try and click on Recent Comment again. annoying.

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Aftershock Sufferer
Aftershock Sufferer
5 years ago

At first I fell sick reading this and then I figured it figures

LJ
LJ
4 years ago

Great comment. Very detailed and crucially, you look into the macro-trends and combine that with evolutionary psychology. Essentially you’re mapping the terrain.

TP
TP
4 years ago

Interesting thoughts. Vasectomy is cheaper than child support. Hookers are cheaper than marriage or cohabitation. Women run on their emotions. For what reason outside of a legacy would any logical thinking man enter into an agreement with the state knowing full well that the emotional behavior of a woman will be his downfall?

MGTOW is the only real answer to this dilemma.

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Chris
Chris
4 years ago

This makes so much sense. I never understood feminists how is the one sense would praise how infinitely empathetic women naturally are, and more kind and nurturing than men, but then could be so dismissive of an aborted baby. Existential fear explains it so well.

Kristian
Kristian
4 years ago

Interesting post!

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4 years ago

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relentlessironbastard
4 years ago

Female existential fear is their problem not ours. It and female nature is never gonna justify the harm of men. It needs to be shamed and punished if its not disciplined by themselves. You seem to be focusing on it like it should be accepted as normal when its non functioning for society as a whole. Men have a nature that says if a better looking woman than his traditional full time house and children attractive wife comes along,well than its OK to have sex with her. Surely his wife and kids should understand its his nature. Or do a… Read more »

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[…] Notice how hostile women become when any man would place conditions on his terms for intimacy/commitment. This is a challenge to women’s unilateral control of Hypergamy in the social order. But more so, it is an affront to women’s Existential Fear: […]

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Peter Pan
Peter Pan
2 years ago

SJF wrote… There is an old saying that a man cares little for a woman’s feelings if he is not prepared to lie to protect them. This brought back memories of something stupid I did a couple of years after my divorce… The breakup was not a bad one, and at the time, I was on fairly good terms with the ex-wife. Then, one day I got inspired by some books I had read to be more real and honest with people. I decided to call her up and tell her something I had kept secret for years: That I… Read more »

Peter Pan
Peter Pan
2 years ago

There was some discussion in this thread about chronic ailments. Novaseeker suggested: The key to her not feeling threatened by your weakness is you not showing her weakness, but mastery. It is fine to have challenges, as long as you can easily, quickly, and effortlessly demonstrate strong, preferably absolute, mastery of them to her. In that way, she is not threatened by a perception of weakness on your part, and is instead comforted by an impression of competence and mastery on your part. For a man, life is an endless stream of tests. It is well known in these parts… Read more »

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