Before I launch into today’s essay I want to throw out a few caveats. The first is a reminder of my long-time policy of dealing with issues of race, politics and religion; and that’s to say it’s my practice leave these topics to other blogs and other writers unless those topics cross over into intersexual dynamics that are pertinent to Red Pill awareness. I feel like I need make this clear as I’m going to get into issues of race and how intersexual relations are modified by these issues today. It’s always been my belief that the shared input and related experiences of men of all races, cultures and nationality is one of the greatest strengths of the Red Pill. So it’s with this in mind that I think we need to address some of these experiences.
What got me on to this topic was the video I’ve linked above here today. As most of you know I’m not a proponent of the idea of a “Black Pill”. That is the ‘black’ part of understanding the harsh realities of what Red Pill awareness opens men’s eyes to. Accepting the uglier nature of intersexual dynamics and how it plays into today’s sexual marketplace is often something that drives some men to a kind of despondency. It can be really depressing to have Red Pill awareness destroy your long-held Blue Pill ideals – particularly when those ideals helped to give you a sense of hope in spite of your instincts telling you something different.
When I was at the 21 Convention last October I had a discussion with Dr. Shawn Smith about the nature of the Blue Pill. His question to me was something like “Don’t you think that some guys need at least a little Blue Pill to keep them going?” I’m paraphrasing here, but I’ve actually touched on this in a few prior essays. In essence, it should follow that human beings can’t handle too much ‘reality’. This is why we look for escapisms and turn our otherwise rational minds to something like faith. The human mind tries to remain hopeful in the face of dire realities; which also follows evolutionarily. Those humans who stayed optimistic in the face of crushing reality didn’t off themselves in despair and consequently passed on their genes.
That’s the nuts & bolts of it (yes, I know there’s more to it), but is this a feature or a bug in today’s realities? Willfully choosing conscious ignorance while your rational mind knows the truth can lead to despondency and depression. It’s the observer effect – observing a process will change that process – only, you’re playing that game with yourself. So, is a little bit of our Blue Pill conditioning a good thing if it gives us a hope that keeps us alive?
I’d have to say no. Because once you unplug from the Matrix going back to that ignorance is really impossible. Something in your hindbrain knows the truth about the fantasy you construct for yourself. Again, it’s playing the observer effect on oneself. And it’s just this simple truth that makes a lot of guys who are unprepared for the anger and nihilism that comes from Red Pill disillusionment to come up with things like a ‘Black Pill’.
But this essay isn’t about dealing with that despondency. I’ve already written that essay in A New Hope. This essay is about one of those ugly truths that Red Pill men have to evolve new adaptations for. You see, there is no ‘Black Pill’ – there is only the space in between a man dealing with his despondency about a harsh Red Pill truth and his crossing the abyss to accepting that truth and doing something with that information to better his life.
Local vs Global SMP
Watch the video I linked here. It’s by Black Pill 101, a channel that specializes in exactly the harsh realities of Red Pill awareness I mentioned above. It doesn’t pull any punches and for that I’m in agreement with them. Men deserve the unvarnished truth; without it they founder. This video outlines the innate difficulties Asian men face in the Global Sexual Marketplace. One of the most common requests I get for counseling is from Asian or Indian men asking me to help them improve their game. Many of them believe I have some Game solution to their getting laid with an SMV 6-7 they know from work. Many of them think they might have a chance with a modest SMV 6 if they either had some specialized technique or they could simply earn another $250K annual salary.
I honestly feel for Asian/Indian men in this respect. When I read about Aziz Ansari’s #MeToo’ing I read with morbid fascination watching his story play out with another ‘cute’ (SMV6-7) white girl. This is the stereotypical interaction. With my Red Pill Lens I saw a girl conflicted by her attraction to Aziz’s social proof (celebrity) with her visceral reaction to becoming intimate with a guy she simply wasn’t all that aroused by. This is just my personal experience, but I’ve counseled Indian (and a few Asian) men who all share a very similar frustration – they really want to get with a white American girl but they are sexually invisible to the vast majority of them.
Black Pill 101 lays out this frustration from Asian men’s perspective. If you happen to be an Asian or Indian man I’d encourage you to add your own experiences in the comments here. But from my own interactions with these men the story revolves around their investment in locking down an average white woman. They aren’t looking to spin plates. They want an LTR with a girl and most of them tend to fixate on one they know from work or a friend of a friend. Maybe that lean towards monogamy is a cultural thing, but they all seem to set their sights on the average, seemingly attainable, American girl. And almost universally they are relegated to the ‘friend zone’ or the go ‘Black Pill’ in frustration.
I’m going to look at the bigger picture here while I try to answer why this is so commonly case. In our tribalist, hunter/gatherer ancestral past our naturalistic sexual marketplace was limited to what a very localized group of individuals had to offer. We might’ve lived in groups of 100-150 ‘natives’ of our tribe. In that tribe maybe there were 10-12 females who would’ve been potential breeding/pairing candidates for a young man.
There are general arousal cues that are universal to all humans across cultures. Natural cross-culture beauty standards is something that’s been widely studied since the mid seventies – globalized beauty standards and physical prowess cues – however, the context in which those cues are expressed are (were) buffered by whatever that localized sexual marketplace (SMP) can realistically manifest.
Example: Height in men something universally agreed on as attractive/arousing for women. This is a globalized attraction cue in women. Girls all over the world overwhelmingly prefer a man to be taller than they are. This is an evolved preference because the survival implications are that a taller man is (generally) an easily identifiable aspect of physical prowess. Height implies a capacity for protection, an imposed dominance, and is a signifier of presence in a male dominance hierarchy. Whether this is the actual case is irrelevant. All that matters is that a woman’s preference for tall men to breed and pair with.
The average height of a Filipino man is around 5′ 4″. Prior to the Spanish colonizing the Philippines all Filipino women knew of men was that 5′ 4″ man. And to the 4′ 11″ average Filipino woman that was attractive. A 5′ 6-7″ man was a giant by the local SMP standards.
But the global SMP standards are simply ‘taller men are more attractive’. So when the Spanish/Western peoples came to the island it introduced Filipinas to a new standard: the 5′ 7″ Spanish man. Now the globalized SMP began to modify the local SMP. Then, eventually, along came the first 6 foot tall Caucasian European guy. Then the first Black man, etc. Gradually the localized (previously tribally-defined) SMP to include the new possibilities of women breeding/pairing with men outside their own tribe.
Localized Contingencies
This is only one easy example of how a globalized standard of what defines the whole of the sexual marketplace redefines, and often replaces, the localized standard of attraction/arousal for women. There are many other ways this out-tribe influence introduces a new global standard for the SMP. This can include force as well as by invitation or local social norms shifting to accommodate the new global SMP. When a tribe is conquered by another it forcibly alters the other’s sexual marketplace standards (War Brides).
As such, societal standards shifted to favor social practices that defended the local SMP integrity of that tribe. This is nothing groundbreaking – tribalist humans have been creating social and religious contingencies to buffer agains women’s Hypergamy, and to solidify the integrity of the local SMP for millennia. And these norms affect both the men and the women of that culture.
Cultural norms that forbid intermarriage (really interbreeding) of women with out-tribe men are common, but there are also:
- Prearranged Marriages
- Guarding/Prioritizing Virginity
- Buffering Against Hypergamy
- Socially Enforced Monogamy
I should also add that there is the Samson Contingency which is a buffer set against (powerful) men taking out-tribe wives. It may’ve been acceptable to have sex with out-tribe women (rape or prostitution), but for the integrity of the tribe, that man was only to form lasting bonds (via marriage) from within that tribe. This kept vital resources within that tribe.
A Modern SMP
In an upcoming essay I’ll be exploring the deeper reasons why Blank-Slate Equalism is so difficult to purge from our present-day social order. However, I need to detail a bit of this now. We live in a feminine-primary social order (the Gynocracy), but without the Blank-Slate much of the preconception of it collapse. One reason Blank-Slate Equalism remains a social norm (despite a world of empirical proof that destroys it) is because it serves to disguise the ugly realities of a sexual marketplace defined by human evolution. Particularly so in an age of expanding SMP globalism. It’s not just culture, politics, ideology and socioeconomic considerations that are tied to globalization; a global scale sexual marketplace is following among all of this.
In the age of global mass communication our localized (tribal) SMPs are replaced with a global standard. That global standard destroys the old local SMPs, but it also selects-out the men who don’t measure up to its standards. This is something I think most MGTOWs and all Incels instinctively know: according to the global SMP selection criteria there are some men who will simply not be selected-for. If the Black Pill 101 video about how Asian women don’t select Asian men for mating opportunities is any indicator, I think Asian and Indian men are facing this head on today.
Now, I expect the first rebuttal to this proposition will be that the present, global SMP is a reflection of Westernized beauty standards and horribly distorted expectations. Asian/Indian men seem to want nothing to do with the native women who are ruthless in expressing that they want nothing to do with them. What globalized demographic is really left for these men? The same might be said about socially inept white men seeking an easier sexual marketplace in Asian women. All of this is simple deductive adaptations men will naturally resort to when it comes to solving the problems of sex and reproduction.
I’m totally accepting that there is a societal influence in all of this. However, I think the incentives to look into the opportunities that a larger global SMP offers is still based on Darwinistic principles. Even Western romanticism is still founded upon natural female arousal cues that define the larger SMP. The global SMP is rooted in the naturalistic, evolved (not socialized) elements that trigger arousal, incentivize parental investment and play off women’s dualistic sexual strategies (Alpha Seed/Beta Need).
The Global Social Order
Finally, I want to point out that while our expanding globalization has given rise to a global SMP, that expansion is rooted in Gynocentrism. Since the time of the Sexual Revolution an unfettered, unconstrained Hypergamy has dictated this global sexual marketplace. The world-scale SMP is driven by women’s prime-directives, not men’s. As women are afforded more authority to direct society, their reproductive interests are what defines the global SMP. And all unchecked and unbalanced by any male interests. This is important to consider when we see the old tribalist, local SMPs decay to extinction. The checks and balances on Hypergamy that existed in the past were the creations of a smaller localized SMP. One that was familiar with the risks and results of allowing men and women of that particular tribe to reproduced without thought to the integrity of the tribe.
This is why Blank-Slate Equalism, as big a lie as it is, is so necessary to maintaining the unfettered Hypergamy that the global SMP is based on. Without its social constructionism, without its presumption of coequal agency, the Gynocentric power base is replaced with conventional, evolved gender norms that would favor men’s influence in the global SMP. Gynocentrism needs Blank-Slate Equalism to disguise its authority and influence. Notions of ‘Equal Value’ and social constructionism are needed to cover the ugly Darwinsim that unchecked Hypergamy thrives in.
At merely clinically obese (30% body fat is the standard used in that chart. Some athletic associations use the stricter standard of 25%) people are still functional and don’t need enablers.
High fructose corn syrup/corn/grains/sugar/massive carbs/physical inactivity.
Fast food establishments, ” aren’t you hungry? “, overconsumption of empty carbs, washed down with high sugar soft drinks.
I remember when there was no such thing as a liter of soda. No Big Gulps.
… No Starbucks either.
So, @j Actually your response to IRL’s Looks post that I reposted is a good starting point. “You mean if a guy above her Looks Threshold comes in set with better game, than the guy (whose also above her Looks Threshold) that’s boring the fuck outta her? yeah absolutely. but if this guy [PIC OF UGLY DUDE] below her Looks Threshold, comes in set, it’s immediately “ewww go away”.” This seems to be the heart of the issue and the core disagreement. YES. I (and IRL and many of the other posters arguing with you) think that if the Ugly… Read more »
Obesity is taboo conversation off-line. So much so it is uncouth and bad business using clinical definitions to describe people accurately. Save it for the EMR. You will rarely if ever have obesity addressed in the risks/benefits/alternatives. Your tacit compliance is all they ask. Food Inc., women, men, bariatric medicine, fitness clubs, Jenny Craig….the whole obesity culture depends on it. Beware being not fat. It’ll engender envy and attendant shitty behavior from insecure types….if they get a whiff you judge them on their obesity. If you go supine and beta and supplicating for their good graces you’ll get along fine… Read more »
Culum!!!!!!!😁😁😁 As a young pup, when I decided to start going after hot chicks in earnest, I’d often observe the phenomenon of obviously ugly/short guys banging the bottoms out of hot/pretty girls with regularity. That’s one reason I pushback against certain ” looks ” pronouncements, because I’ve seen different with my own eyes over decades. Charisma. Yes. Charisma can be developed. My motto is ” never fake stuff ” so understanding what charisma is and developing it by interactions with everyone, all the time, will help in enjoying and internalizing it. I miss Yareally a lot, but I don’t miss… Read more »
“Beware being not fat. It’ll engender envy and attendant shitty behavior from insecure types….”
And God help you if you point out that the reason you aren’t fat is because you don’t want to be.
@palmasailor
I agree I guess. The rise of modern media, especially the internet’s unbiqitious porn, has changed everyone’s conceptions. This has been noted before by others, but in our evolutionary history up until not that long ago, there was a limited selection of breeding age women and men at the same time. Sure, top men got the hottest, but it was a small pond. One never saw a pic of women as hot as Helen of Troy on every commercial or billboard.
“Beware being not fat. It’ll engender envy and attendant shitty behavior from insecure types….”
Well, if you’re built, guys will credit you with having earned the right to pussy. Otoh, if you are fat and getting lots of attention from girls, the envy will skyrocket.
Wut???
“Otoh, if you are fat and getting lots of attention from girls, the envy will skyrocket.”
Headslap. ASD stop going off script and I’ll speak for everyone, we don’t want to hear your personal experience being fat and pulling tail while dancing.
See my FR. Fat dudes and hotties = exchange of goods for services as in Haiti and any other destitute backwater.
“Well, if you’re built, guys will credit you with having earned the right to pussy. ”
Do you, ASD? Do you credit guys a pass just being built?
It’s a dangerous precedent leaning on the crutch of looks.
@EI
You assume I’m solipsistic? Projection?
@EI
And my point, of course, is that if you’re “pulling tail”, you are damned if you do and damned if you don’t.
Wuuuttttt??????
@ ASD
Nah, no projection, just pleading for some of your Christian mercy.
Blax, if you’re built and pulling tail, insecure men will be envious. But if you’re fat and pulling tail, they will not only be envious, they’ll be incredulous and figure that you’re a blackhearted villain in league with the devil.
Damned if you do (you’re built) and damned if you don’t (not built). Insecure men are gonna envy.
See my FR. Fat dudes and hotties = exchange of goods for services as in Haiti and any other destitute backwater.
sometimes…not always…
Henry Kissinger (fat) and Jill St. John (beautiful).
Vince Vaughan
David Spade has a beer belly.
YaReally was fat and pulling tail.
I don’t know that you see a lot of whores in salsa clubs, but what do I know?
“Damned if you do (you’re built) and damned if you don’t (not built). Insecure men are gonna envy.” Wrong on the last count….but this dips into deeply sensitive emotional territory and is argued philosophically by people smarter than me, which says little but you get the point: “As nouns the difference between greed and envy is that greed is a selfish or excessive desire for more than is needed or deserved, especially of money, wealth, food, or other possessions while envy is resentful desire of something possessed by another or others (but not limited to material possessions). ” “As a… Read more »
cov·et
Dictionary result for covet
/ˈkəvət/
verb
verb: covet; 3rd person present: covets; past tense: coveted; past participle: coveted; gerund or present participle: coveting
yearn to possess or have (something).
Kissinger wasn’t fat with Jill St. John and try not searching back 70 years for your refutations.
Apply your assertion to the last few and provide pics.
Your other examples are good AF/BB tradeoffs. There’s no fat David Spade has that isn’t made up by $$. Anyways his wife’s ok, not superbabe.
@Culum Right let’s begin “I am a skinny fat late 30s dude with average dress sense (as in, 25% body fat and zero muscle tone)” With zero cold approach lays (at least to my knowledge) and an N count consisting of a series of HB6s (who you’ve pass their Looks Threshold (otherwise they wouldn’t have matched with you in the first place)) via online apps. But go on… “you will probably say now that you’ve never seen a guy like your Ugly Guy do what I describe above” Its not if ((I)) think you’re ugly that matters here (although if… Read more »
Funny how some things stick inside of our heads for what seems like an eternity.
In the 60’s as a little kid, these were ( in my mind ) gorgeous women…because they were the only ones I’d seen nude in movies. Lol.
But other than here, I can’t recall the last time I’d used them as an example of anything.
” It’s not the FI that’s beaten them down. It’s hot girls reactions to them, just trying to game them, that beats them down. Facing brutal rejections (ive witnessed it first hand) night after night, fucking DESTROYS their self esteem.”
Technically there’s really no such thing as a ” brutal rejection “. That’s in the guy’s mind, unless she stabs him with an ice pick or something for approaching her.
Toughen up, buttercup. Other folks actions shouldn’t destroy your self esteem. That’s why it’s called SELF esteem.
” You can have the most amazing PUAgame in the world, but if you dont pass that inital Looks Threshold, it won’t matter.”
FIFY.
Lmao.
After 20+ years, I only just realized that my wife has a very similar facial structure a Rachel.
The subconscious mind is a motherfucker.
You’ve no idea what a whore looks like today, that’s why. It’s not trashy heels, hotpants and Aquanet.
The pic of of JsJ at 78 Jill St. John was a red hot 29 and Kissinger was 46 when they dated back in ’70. The link has pics that show what the people looked like back in ’70. https://www.whosdatedwho.com/dating/henry-kissinger-and-jill-st-john @EI You’re correct that I wouldn’t be able to recogize ho’s from looking at them. I figure that I’d know when they started talking money. It’s rare that a fat guy has serious game. Bill Murray is better than 25% body fat and is still slaying it. You know, I started trying to recall what the girls actually said last… Read more »
There’s a website for who dated who?
Wtf?
And, you recognize ho’s by looking in there eyes. They have a similar type of look, deep inside. Savvy ho’s will resist prolonged eye contact for this very reason. Up to you to be able to discern.
@Blax
Hey, gramps, there’s this thing call the interwebz.
I know.
It’s part of my job description.
But my question is, why have a website for who was dating? Lots and lots of silly shit on the web.
” . . . why have a website for who was dating?”
Because there’s girls on the intertubes now.
This representative Omar apparently did not properly lick Israel’s pussy; and consequently she is guilty of another on the endless list of Grave Crimes Against Humanity; “anti-Semitism” (lolz). When all religion; save for Thelema; had been eradicated…and all human division…sinisterly devised by Jehovah at Babel…is a thing of the past; the universe shall be a Cleaner Place.
The Greatest Treatise on Religion ever written was penned by Jim Goad; Chapter Seven of The Redneck Manifesto…”Prayin’ Hard”…it makes everything else ever written seem like sheer lunacy; which of course it all is.
“and they see a bunch of people talking about him. They’ll get curious. “Who is that gentleman over there?””
They ask, looking at the guy with platform shoes, a leather vest, fuzzy top hat and ski goggles… Amazed as he entertains a group of guys and girls with stories and magic tricks…
What is that guy has that we don’t a chode ask another. Status he replies…
But that guy has never been here before !!!
[Those who have ears may hear]
I have found but thirteen thinkers worth reading on this planet…Cicero, Voltaire, Nietzsche, Ambrose Bierce, Wilde, Crowley, Jack Parsons, Richard Posner, Robert Anton Wilson, Korzybski, Ezra Pound, Wilhelm Reich & Joyce. The rest don’t add up to dogshit.
Of course; the condemnation of “anti-Semitism” and the American love affair with Israel…which is guilty of at least as many atrocities as her Arab neighbors…who I likewise refuse to excuse…ONLY EXISTS FOR ONE REASON: THE FANATICAL AMERICAN CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALISTS THAT LINK ISRAEL TO END TIMES ESCHCATOLGY AND THEIR DESIRE TO BE ON THE “RIGHT SIDE” (lolz); SO THEY CAN BE WITH THEIR “LORD JESUS CHRIST” (vomits) FOR ALL ETERNITY.
Alpha is observable in behavior, it’s not some fucking mystery. I’ve accepted my role as a leader and someone with social dominance in this world. I’m not ashamed of it. And here, it’s important to be straight with men about it. @OMGs – I’m not talking to you guys. I could give a fuck what any of you think – that’s why I left here. Remember, I used to sit around here just like you guys, making 100 comments a week. I used to argue endlessly about the fine points of Red Pilldom – but then I stopped, and got… Read more »
“looking at the guy with platform shoes, a leather vest, fuzzy top hat and ski goggles…”
2:38 – 4:22
https://youtu.be/7yfkz9xyaUM?t=158
No Ad Hominem attacks por favor
Fools have a right to exist. However; they have no absolutely No Right to have any influence on public policy. THE ABOLITION OF DEMOCRACY IS ESSENTIAL FOR ANY STATE TO FLOURISH. Either a monarchy or a loose anarchy would be better.
People forget that the Massachusetts Bay Colony had absolutely no government throughout the Revolutionary War…and ran just fine.
Always remember; every single dollar the government has; they have stolen.
Scribbler Says:
“I’ve accepted my role as a leader”
Well there you have it…with the chance to be “remembered” (lolz) for having “led” (lolz) from his keyboard (lolz) a bunch of pathetic, dysfunctional males to the Promised Land of “Alphahood” (lolz); I think most reasonably sane souls would prefer that history mercifully forgot their name.
Stellar post. Lots of interesting comments except a few taking it off the rails… Question: Isn’t this SMV issue connected with the elite program to reduce population? Put differently: women are programmed with unrealistic expectations resulting in infertility (or 1-2 children max). The Black Pill video seems to blame nature (ignoring nurture) with the impression of nothing to do (rejection buffer?). But, Game tell us differently. And, with masculinity under seige, it should be easier for Redpill men to attract female attention.
Isn’t this SMV issue connected with the elite program to reduce population? > When The Omega (Wo)man (’71?) becomes a reality; the planet will finally be livable once again for the long abused plants, animals, and one remaining soul. women are programmed with unrealistic expectations resulting in infertility > I didn’t realize the Power of Suggestion was capable of such things… it should be easier for Redpill men to attract female attention. > The fact that all you men think about is getting fucked shows how incredibly limited you are. Vulgar and base in the extreme; completely incapable of controlling… Read more »
Study: Online Dating Makes People “Picky” and “Unrealistic”
http://faculty.wcas.northwestern.edu/eli-finkel/documents/2012_FinkelEastwickKarneyReisSprecher_PSPI.pdf
Since this planet is run by Professional Liars; expect all honest souls to be denounced.
Let’s pause just a moment to mark International Women’s Day. I’m doing my part by selecting the unofficial theme song
https://youtu.be/MhawZj8xUM8
“I am who I am, take it or leave it…”
“I’m not talking to you guys. I could give a fuck what any of you think..”
RP translation: Verba non Acta.
Go paddle board the Hudson, you queer.
@ Palma
“If there was none at home, none at school, none at college (where they were taught – man bad), and none socially then what’s the outcome to be?”
Now you have the problem in hand, are you asserting women there are hopeless and ergo your efforts are in vain so off to somewhere more traditional, whatever that means….?
C’mon man! You’re Palmasailor!
IMHO women adrift, as Palma describes… because that’s what they are…they have no anchor to masculinity….they are much more vulnerable to RP than traditional venues as THOSE women are more confident in the natural order, will shit test more aithenticly as they are more secure in their femininity. They know true strength. What you describe is confusion at a root level of what it is to be a woman. Ironic, but not really to RP, today on International Woman’s Day, we see women being celebrated not as women qua women, but rather something else, whatever else, anything else, other than… Read more »
J
Weren’t you just posting the JMULV is a Fraud thread a few months back? Now he is your source?
opinion shopping… it’s what chicks do.
and speak English for chrisake…
Sigh Ad homenium: Description: Attacking the person making the argument, rather than the argument itself, when the attack on the person is completely irrelevant to the argument the person is making. Logical Form: Person 1 is claiming Y. Person 1 is a moron [or fraud in this case] Therefore, Y is not true. Ya know? Kinda how when Trump retweeted that Mussolini quote about ‘living one day as a lion’ and then people went after him for it, saying he supports facism and other nonsense. And he said, nah it was just an interesting quote so I retweeted it lol… Read more »
Going to California Spent my days with a woman unkind Smoked my stuff and drank all my wine. Made up my mind to make a new start Going To California with an aching in my heart. Someone told me there’s a girl out there With love in her eyes and flowers in her hair. Took my chances on a big jet plane Never let them tell you that they’re all the same. The sea was red and the sky was grey Wondered how tomorrow could ever follow today. The mountains and the canyons started to tremble and shake As the… Read more »
J
I don’t think you know how this fallacy stuff works, copypasta notwithstanding…
Questiong the credibility of a source in light of that source’s documented prior false dealing isn’t ad hominem.
But you subscribe to the “broken clock is right twice a day” school so everything gets a pass?
I didn’t know I was in a competition with Blax or Scribbler. Things are awesome here in Unicornlandia and Life is Beautiful in my shoes. Too bad I don’t get to witness Scribbler bumping chests (or nipping at the heels) with the likes of Jack Murphy and his girlfriend, Ivan Throne and his wife, Andrew and Tristan Tate. (And I could have helped Mike Cernovich with his eczema if his ADHD didn’t distract him so much.) Nice try Scribbs with the made up narrative including the laughable shit testing about keyboard jockeying. Me, my wife, children, job, employees, group of… Read more »
@ j
Forensics ProTip:
“Description: Attacking the person making the argument” is equivalent to rhetorically soiling your pants.
It’s ok to know definitions but not ok to use them in debate.
Imagine starting a speech with “Webster’s Dictionary defines ad hominem as…….”
Everyone checks out and you look like a putz. Don’t be a putz. Be better.
Sentient – Presents outdated dating advice (That he doesn’t even take himself. No Skin in the Game). j – Links clip of someone who tells guys not to dress like fucking weirdos to get hot girls attention in 2019, and instead dress like a normal person (I could have linked anyone else, but nobody to my knowledge has a clip on youtube debunking this myth). Sentient – ignores the content/message of the clip, and instead attacks the character’s credibility (I know he pays hookers to increase his N count. I shared the link to where he got exposed for it.… Read more »
@You Know Who – I’m not leading anything here. This is a comment section I dip into every week or two to hector LARPing keyboard warriors to get off their asses. I’m not invested here. I don’t give a shit. If this site went away tomorrow I’d be like, “Oh well” and move on without a second thought. But in the real world I currently run half a tech company. I lead and helped co-found another international professional association and have a global personal brand. I mentor young people and many people seek my advice on business, their careers and… Read more »
ignores the content/message of the clip Oh sweet sweet irony… You will recall i footnoted my initial post as such: [Those who have ears may hear] So there. For the record, Mystery never told anyone to copy his style. But he did demonstrate that peacocking to an excessive degree would draw massive negative attention and shit tests… and by passing such develop social proof – on the spot status… a demonstration of high value What he actually wrote: < blockquote>PEACOCK THEORY Just as a long, cumbersome appendage on the end of a male bird is costly evidence of its survival… Read more »
@Sentient “[Those who have ears may hear]” and I want newbies who are following along to ignore your outdated advice because I don’t want people to be stuck in 2006. Look I’ve never questioned your credibility. I know you aight. Not as good as me. But aight. Props. But when YOU don’t even follow your own advice, I got a problem with that. (cue the “but didn’t YoU aDvISe UnDeR 5ft 1″ GuYs To dO lEg LeNgTheNing SuRgErY??? HmMmM??” yeah. I stand behind it. I’m not doing it cause I’m already taller than the girls I’m interested in. “peacocking to… Read more »
Normal:
Peacocking:
Don’t worry bro. All the hot girls are just gonna shit test you. And if you pass their shit test, they gonna think you ‘high status’ and then they’re gonna wanna fuck you.
On more than one occasion I’ve had women walk up to me and tell
me that they either loved or hated my goggles. Either way, I would reply, “No, you don’t; you’re attracted to me.”
Me: “You’re right. I’m just an overaccessoried pimp.”
A&A and it makes them walk it back by qualifying themselves. Giggles to follow.
http://www.peacockingindaclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/DSC00028.jpg
http://www.peacockingindaclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/wpid-IMG_20121222_191644_884.jpg
I think the problem is that young men’s style is already pretty close to peacocking as opposed to earlier times.
I’ve seen guys lately wearing ” Cat in the Hat ” hats at clubs/parties and the like.
Even ” odd(er)” hairstyles have been mostly mainstreamed.
It depends. I metropolitan areas, this doesn’t signal peacocking as strongly as it does in smaller, less urban/metro areas.
Women react though.
Exhibit A.
Doesn’t warrant a 2nd look, right? Lots of dudes wear this kind of shorts.
But go back 20-30 years ago, and show up in the club with this on.
Also, you know fuck-all about the Massachusetts Bay Colony I guess. It failed due to it being a theocracy. Anyone curious about how it failed and how fucked up it was should read Roger Williams and the Creation of the American Soul. You’ll see how in that book how actual individual sovereignty won out over fascistic Puritans, and how the American identity was born. Also, we are not a democracy, our founders intentionally sought to avoid the pitfalls of democracy. Had we not allowed socialists to run amok in our society for the past 120 years, we would not be… Read more »
…. with chicken legs.
@blax
2 years ago I left a bar, with two Colombia Uni chicks, wearing a girls’ bra on top of my t-shirt. As I was walked down the street, I received compliments from a couple girls that passed us by on the sidewalk (yeah I’m “peacocking” by wearing something ridiculous and not giving a shit about it, but I’m also walking with 2 chicks by my side). It works. But I don’t want to rely on gimmicks.
clown game.
Democracy is an absurd concept; borne out of egalitarian impulses and sentimental foolishness; it presupposes the “equal wisdom” barfs of all the citizens of the nation when it comes to making sound choices for the nation. The concept of “equality before the law” is a noble one; as the idea of letting a nobleman get away with a crime for which a peasant would be punished is anathema to Me; people should be subject to a uniform application of both the civil & criminal codes. However, since democracy is the Rule of the “Majority”; and since most of the people… Read more »
J I want newbies who are following along to ignore your outdated advice because I don’t want people to be stuck in 2006. I see we’ve reached the part of the program where the savior complex enters stage left… “but Teh Newbs!!!” Given 90% of what you think is “game” (now, I know you jump all over) – putting aside the retardism site stuff ftm – is merely repackaged MM, without attribution mind you… AND your demonstrated inability to understand concepts and extrapolate outcomes from same… I’m not suprised you are where you are. But for Teh Precious Newbs…. If… Read more »
Palma
It can also be a catalyst for someone who is looking for a fight
Indeed… fight is social pressure pushed to 11…
Been there, got the T shirt.
So why did J post that picture of 5 gay dudes? To support the hypothesis that fake blondes wear the most makeup?
J I want newbies who are following along to ignore your outdated advice because I don’t want people to be stuck in 2006. I see we’ve reached the part of the program where the savior complex enters stage left… “but Teh Newbs!!!” 90% of Newbs will wash out. Shades of Hank Holliday and Softek. They simply can’t follow the script to make it through triage. And YaReally’s job was to always resort to J’s refrain of helping the newbs, while criticizing the mature with reference experiences who actually accomplished their goal. Always recursive to the Newbs. That’s bullshit. Tough love… Read more »
Furthermore, why is J. posting pics of Neels Visser and Cindy Kimberly?
Or Lucky Blue Smith and Stormy Bree.
Feminine tabloid fodder. It would be nice if guys in the manosphere don’t gossip like girls. Or pay attention to the value of that shit. It’s like talking about Justin Bieber.
Not real life. Not really representative of anything possibly relevant to Da Newbs.
Fashion selling Pendulum world. Good luck with that. Go fantasize J.
Lol. J is alright. Re: Newbs and shit, I have YaReally flashbacks about teh newbs and lurkers. If anything is said that is contradictory of ” current field tested knowledge pool by thousands of guys on the internet reading pickup books and trying to figure shit out “, it seems as though that thought/idea/knowledge point must be smashed, preferably by Hulk himself. It took me a few years of back and forth and back and forth with Ya before I understood this modus. There can only be One ( way ). Personally, I’m a fan of the ” more ways… Read more »
I have to say, all of this seems to make so much sense that it should become relatively easy.
Lol, but nah.
@Sentient In my original comment to @Culum, I used ‘Woody Allen’ as an example of someone, who despite being ugly with beta subcommunications, can still garner massive attention from a crowd where ever he goes, simply because he is high status (real not faked). Sentient chimed in, that someone wearing a ridiculous outfit (“platform shoes, a leather vest, fuzzy top hat and ski goggles.” Not these exact items, but just as ridiculous) can accomplish this same feat, by: “peacocking to an excessive degree would draw massive negative attention and shit tests… and by passing such develop social proof – on… Read more »
“The trader develops an inherent ability to spot the ups and downs of the market as they blip past on a rapid candlestick chart, overlaid in his mind upon the news of the day and the latest valuations of equities. He reaches a state of instantly responsive and effortless, profitable transcendence.” Trading equities (stocks) is a masculine thing. It’s a fun sport. My parents built a fortune on buying and holding stocks base on values. I emulated a lot of things they did including horticulture (and millions of other hobbies) and stock trading. Man, they were great parents. Inculcating great… Read more »
this strategy actually eliminates most girls and leaves only the shit testy ones.
Well, I only banged two girls, and both shit-tested me and I’ve heard it said that AWALT. If a girl is trying to gauge your masculinity/balls/coolness, she will shit test you. If a girl is certain that you have much higher SMV than she does, she won’t bother to shit test you.
J, it’s obvious that you’ve been slummin’
J. is alright. He’s a legend in his own mind. He could be far better. It only took me a few seconds of YaReally to understand his modus operandi. Under the guise of helping the newbs, he fucked with the guys that didn’t need helping. In order to self tell his story, of which something was missing. But never to be told after he took his ball and went home. People don’t take their ball and go home unless they’re missing out on moving up. Epic take your ball home and dis-appear move there. Esp. for Da Newbs. Think of… Read more »
@theasdgamer
is this a shit test?
https://imgur.com/a/u9ifwhP
P.S. I got another pic imma upload tomorrow wrt unprotected casual sex.
night.
The reason j and scray and yareally get such hard on posting here is no different than rugby11 spamming on the idea that his labors are for some greater cause, a cause that just might save a soul. Then they can put the .45 away again knowing that their lives have meaning outside of themselves. They really hate themselves and their life trajectories but to address THAT FACT IRT is too damn hard…..so they slouch another lazy comment with zero intention of helping others as all they intend is to validate not their existence but their egos. Seriously gay. Scrib… Read more »
@eh ok I’ll bite “spamming on the idea that his labors are for some greater cause, a cause that just might save a soul” lol. I only comment here when there’s something I disagree with and then I’ll share my perspective. Most of the time I’m wrong tho. and then I either end up learning something new from the argument or it causes me to self reflect, and look up new information and update my mental model. I don’t mind being wrong. But I’ll keep arguing until either the other person has convinced me of their position or gives up… Read more »
LMAO
….. Waitaminute… I’m an old man with only a few years ( maybe 20-25 if I’m lucky) left….😕😭😭😭
“I think its a byproduct of being young.”
“because your already an old man with only a limited amount of years left on this planet (and your best years are already behind you). then * poof * your gone forever lol.”
Blax beat me to it.
The above Peter Pan ideation is j’s ruin. All he writes requires this fallacy to hold water. Good luck, Everlasting Tuck.
J
“so they can develop social proof, and reach the same level of status as one Woody Allen.”
Once again Woody Allen wasn’t born… He was made from Allan Stewart Konigsberg …
You continue to focus on the tail end of status amd forgo all thought as to how it got there…
Unless you are in a microdemographic on inhereted status, like monarchy etc. It’s yours out there for the making.
Ever hear of the “Club Kids”? Probs not.
Meanwhile lax celebrates International Women’s Day
https://twitter.com/LizardsLacrosse/status/1104040276623065095?s=19
Re: old man = best years behind you. Interesting trope. Sure, some men get beaten by age, or the illness or physical incapacitations that might happen ( ow, muh shoulder). I have a swashbuckling cousin headed for knee replacement surgery next week. He turns 60 soon. Yet I think what younger guys see in most older men, they misinterpret. Some young men ( 18-25) in my social circle believe that I’m slowing down and getting settled and boring as age progresses.😂 what I think it is, is that they are still experiencing a lot of ” firsts” in their lives.… Read more »
If only Tuck is invited to the fuckfest, but Mr. Magoo wants to go, Mr. Magoo is the one who needs to adjust his approach, doesn’t he?
Young guys are in the New Toy Phase. Even they must realize that, istm. But older dudes also have fewer T-receptors, so they may not realize their drop in sex drive.
…. speak for yourself there Ponda’.
Blax
I love you man.
“I think it it’s done correctly, age puts you in a different headspace. Back in the day we used to call it ” maturity “.
If you gonna take the battle away from j before he can fight then he’s gotta fume at himself
He’s gotta hate until the body count is too large to ignore.
Okay @j, let’s continue: ““I am a skinny fat late 30s dude with average dress sense (as in, 25% body fat and zero muscle tone)” With zero cold approach lays (at least to my knowledge) and an N count consisting of a series of HB6s (who you’ve pass their Looks Threshold (otherwise they wouldn’t have matched with you in the first place)) via online apps. But go on…” What point are you trying to make with this? That’s not me being sarcastic, it’s a sincere question. Even if it was accurate about my background (it’s not), why would it invalidate… Read more »
Oh and @j one point to add to my post above – not only are genuine No Girls way rarer than you are suggesting, also keep in mind that you don’t know why they are No Girls. Yes it could be that the girl has anti fetish for your Looks, or it could be that she loves your look usually but you remind her of the guy who just dumped her yesterday so she’s out to Bang a guy who looks as different from him as possible, or she got fired from her job/dad died and her friends have dragged… Read more »
” Let me take that train of thought a step further and clarify the actual point of disagreement a bit more. You’re essentially saying that although a girl’s Looks Threshold is subjective (so Alicia Vikander could possibly bang an Ugly Guy who happened to be above her personal Threshold), that Looks Threshold will never move for that particular girl. So a guy who happens to be below any girl’s Looks Threshold will always and forever be below it and will never be able to bang her in any circumstances because we all know girls are constant in their purpose and… Read more »
@Culum
lol I skimmed your post and it looks good, mate. unfortunately I’m on my way to the gym, so don’t have time to give you a detailed response. I’ll get back to you when I come back (or maybe I’ll fall asleep and forget lol) but I’ll leave you this clip for now:
Steve Jabba
5 years ago.