Before I launch into today’s essay I want to throw out a few caveats. The first is a reminder of my long-time policy of dealing with issues of race, politics and religion; and that’s to say it’s my practice leave these topics to other blogs and other writers unless those topics cross over into intersexual dynamics that are pertinent to Red Pill awareness. I feel like I need make this clear as I’m going to get into issues of race and how intersexual relations are modified by these issues today. It’s always been my belief that the shared input and related experiences of men of all races, cultures and nationality is one of the greatest strengths of the Red Pill. So it’s with this in mind that I think we need to address some of these experiences.
What got me on to this topic was the video I’ve linked above here today. As most of you know I’m not a proponent of the idea of a “Black Pill”. That is the ‘black’ part of understanding the harsh realities of what Red Pill awareness opens men’s eyes to. Accepting the uglier nature of intersexual dynamics and how it plays into today’s sexual marketplace is often something that drives some men to a kind of despondency. It can be really depressing to have Red Pill awareness destroy your long-held Blue Pill ideals – particularly when those ideals helped to give you a sense of hope in spite of your instincts telling you something different.
When I was at the 21 Convention last October I had a discussion with Dr. Shawn Smith about the nature of the Blue Pill. His question to me was something like “Don’t you think that some guys need at least a little Blue Pill to keep them going?” I’m paraphrasing here, but I’ve actually touched on this in a few prior essays. In essence, it should follow that human beings can’t handle too much ‘reality’. This is why we look for escapisms and turn our otherwise rational minds to something like faith. The human mind tries to remain hopeful in the face of dire realities; which also follows evolutionarily. Those humans who stayed optimistic in the face of crushing reality didn’t off themselves in despair and consequently passed on their genes.
That’s the nuts & bolts of it (yes, I know there’s more to it), but is this a feature or a bug in today’s realities? Willfully choosing conscious ignorance while your rational mind knows the truth can lead to despondency and depression. It’s the observer effect – observing a process will change that process – only, you’re playing that game with yourself. So, is a little bit of our Blue Pill conditioning a good thing if it gives us a hope that keeps us alive?
I’d have to say no. Because once you unplug from the Matrix going back to that ignorance is really impossible. Something in your hindbrain knows the truth about the fantasy you construct for yourself. Again, it’s playing the observer effect on oneself. And it’s just this simple truth that makes a lot of guys who are unprepared for the anger and nihilism that comes from Red Pill disillusionment to come up with things like a ‘Black Pill’.
But this essay isn’t about dealing with that despondency. I’ve already written that essay in A New Hope. This essay is about one of those ugly truths that Red Pill men have to evolve new adaptations for. You see, there is no ‘Black Pill’ – there is only the space in between a man dealing with his despondency about a harsh Red Pill truth and his crossing the abyss to accepting that truth and doing something with that information to better his life.
Local vs Global SMP
Watch the video I linked here. It’s by Black Pill 101, a channel that specializes in exactly the harsh realities of Red Pill awareness I mentioned above. It doesn’t pull any punches and for that I’m in agreement with them. Men deserve the unvarnished truth; without it they founder. This video outlines the innate difficulties Asian men face in the Global Sexual Marketplace. One of the most common requests I get for counseling is from Asian or Indian men asking me to help them improve their game. Many of them believe I have some Game solution to their getting laid with an SMV 6-7 they know from work. Many of them think they might have a chance with a modest SMV 6 if they either had some specialized technique or they could simply earn another $250K annual salary.
I honestly feel for Asian/Indian men in this respect. When I read about Aziz Ansari’s #MeToo’ing I read with morbid fascination watching his story play out with another ‘cute’ (SMV6-7) white girl. This is the stereotypical interaction. With my Red Pill Lens I saw a girl conflicted by her attraction to Aziz’s social proof (celebrity) with her visceral reaction to becoming intimate with a guy she simply wasn’t all that aroused by. This is just my personal experience, but I’ve counseled Indian (and a few Asian) men who all share a very similar frustration – they really want to get with a white American girl but they are sexually invisible to the vast majority of them.
Black Pill 101 lays out this frustration from Asian men’s perspective. If you happen to be an Asian or Indian man I’d encourage you to add your own experiences in the comments here. But from my own interactions with these men the story revolves around their investment in locking down an average white woman. They aren’t looking to spin plates. They want an LTR with a girl and most of them tend to fixate on one they know from work or a friend of a friend. Maybe that lean towards monogamy is a cultural thing, but they all seem to set their sights on the average, seemingly attainable, American girl. And almost universally they are relegated to the ‘friend zone’ or the go ‘Black Pill’ in frustration.
I’m going to look at the bigger picture here while I try to answer why this is so commonly case. In our tribalist, hunter/gatherer ancestral past our naturalistic sexual marketplace was limited to what a very localized group of individuals had to offer. We might’ve lived in groups of 100-150 ‘natives’ of our tribe. In that tribe maybe there were 10-12 females who would’ve been potential breeding/pairing candidates for a young man.
There are general arousal cues that are universal to all humans across cultures. Natural cross-culture beauty standards is something that’s been widely studied since the mid seventies – globalized beauty standards and physical prowess cues – however, the context in which those cues are expressed are (were) buffered by whatever that localized sexual marketplace (SMP) can realistically manifest.
Example: Height in men something universally agreed on as attractive/arousing for women. This is a globalized attraction cue in women. Girls all over the world overwhelmingly prefer a man to be taller than they are. This is an evolved preference because the survival implications are that a taller man is (generally) an easily identifiable aspect of physical prowess. Height implies a capacity for protection, an imposed dominance, and is a signifier of presence in a male dominance hierarchy. Whether this is the actual case is irrelevant. All that matters is that a woman’s preference for tall men to breed and pair with.
The average height of a Filipino man is around 5′ 4″. Prior to the Spanish colonizing the Philippines all Filipino women knew of men was that 5′ 4″ man. And to the 4′ 11″ average Filipino woman that was attractive. A 5′ 6-7″ man was a giant by the local SMP standards.
But the global SMP standards are simply ‘taller men are more attractive’. So when the Spanish/Western peoples came to the island it introduced Filipinas to a new standard: the 5′ 7″ Spanish man. Now the globalized SMP began to modify the local SMP. Then, eventually, along came the first 6 foot tall Caucasian European guy. Then the first Black man, etc. Gradually the localized (previously tribally-defined) SMP to include the new possibilities of women breeding/pairing with men outside their own tribe.
Localized Contingencies
This is only one easy example of how a globalized standard of what defines the whole of the sexual marketplace redefines, and often replaces, the localized standard of attraction/arousal for women. There are many other ways this out-tribe influence introduces a new global standard for the SMP. This can include force as well as by invitation or local social norms shifting to accommodate the new global SMP. When a tribe is conquered by another it forcibly alters the other’s sexual marketplace standards (War Brides).
As such, societal standards shifted to favor social practices that defended the local SMP integrity of that tribe. This is nothing groundbreaking – tribalist humans have been creating social and religious contingencies to buffer agains women’s Hypergamy, and to solidify the integrity of the local SMP for millennia. And these norms affect both the men and the women of that culture.
Cultural norms that forbid intermarriage (really interbreeding) of women with out-tribe men are common, but there are also:
- Prearranged Marriages
- Guarding/Prioritizing Virginity
- Buffering Against Hypergamy
- Socially Enforced Monogamy
I should also add that there is the Samson Contingency which is a buffer set against (powerful) men taking out-tribe wives. It may’ve been acceptable to have sex with out-tribe women (rape or prostitution), but for the integrity of the tribe, that man was only to form lasting bonds (via marriage) from within that tribe. This kept vital resources within that tribe.
A Modern SMP
In an upcoming essay I’ll be exploring the deeper reasons why Blank-Slate Equalism is so difficult to purge from our present-day social order. However, I need to detail a bit of this now. We live in a feminine-primary social order (the Gynocracy), but without the Blank-Slate much of the preconception of it collapse. One reason Blank-Slate Equalism remains a social norm (despite a world of empirical proof that destroys it) is because it serves to disguise the ugly realities of a sexual marketplace defined by human evolution. Particularly so in an age of expanding SMP globalism. It’s not just culture, politics, ideology and socioeconomic considerations that are tied to globalization; a global scale sexual marketplace is following among all of this.
In the age of global mass communication our localized (tribal) SMPs are replaced with a global standard. That global standard destroys the old local SMPs, but it also selects-out the men who don’t measure up to its standards. This is something I think most MGTOWs and all Incels instinctively know: according to the global SMP selection criteria there are some men who will simply not be selected-for. If the Black Pill 101 video about how Asian women don’t select Asian men for mating opportunities is any indicator, I think Asian and Indian men are facing this head on today.
Now, I expect the first rebuttal to this proposition will be that the present, global SMP is a reflection of Westernized beauty standards and horribly distorted expectations. Asian/Indian men seem to want nothing to do with the native women who are ruthless in expressing that they want nothing to do with them. What globalized demographic is really left for these men? The same might be said about socially inept white men seeking an easier sexual marketplace in Asian women. All of this is simple deductive adaptations men will naturally resort to when it comes to solving the problems of sex and reproduction.
I’m totally accepting that there is a societal influence in all of this. However, I think the incentives to look into the opportunities that a larger global SMP offers is still based on Darwinistic principles. Even Western romanticism is still founded upon natural female arousal cues that define the larger SMP. The global SMP is rooted in the naturalistic, evolved (not socialized) elements that trigger arousal, incentivize parental investment and play off women’s dualistic sexual strategies (Alpha Seed/Beta Need).
The Global Social Order
Finally, I want to point out that while our expanding globalization has given rise to a global SMP, that expansion is rooted in Gynocentrism. Since the time of the Sexual Revolution an unfettered, unconstrained Hypergamy has dictated this global sexual marketplace. The world-scale SMP is driven by women’s prime-directives, not men’s. As women are afforded more authority to direct society, their reproductive interests are what defines the global SMP. And all unchecked and unbalanced by any male interests. This is important to consider when we see the old tribalist, local SMPs decay to extinction. The checks and balances on Hypergamy that existed in the past were the creations of a smaller localized SMP. One that was familiar with the risks and results of allowing men and women of that particular tribe to reproduced without thought to the integrity of the tribe.
This is why Blank-Slate Equalism, as big a lie as it is, is so necessary to maintaining the unfettered Hypergamy that the global SMP is based on. Without its social constructionism, without its presumption of coequal agency, the Gynocentric power base is replaced with conventional, evolved gender norms that would favor men’s influence in the global SMP. Gynocentrism needs Blank-Slate Equalism to disguise its authority and influence. Notions of ‘Equal Value’ and social constructionism are needed to cover the ugly Darwinsim that unchecked Hypergamy thrives in.
Neo: “What are you trying to tell me, that I can dodge Black Pills?”
Rollo: “No, Neo, I’m telling you that when you’re ready, you won’t have to.”
Jesus, what a mess the “Red Pill” world is. This deranged “Asian” incel has fetishized his failure withe women, and every MGTOW fucktard on the planet is cheering him on. I have a lot more to say about this, but don’t have time. I’ll drop some thoughts now and do a more complete decimation of this horseshit over the weekend. First, this study looks at “Asians” monolithically. This is stupid. Filipinos, Chinese, Japanese and Indonesians are not interchangeable. Any time you see “Asian” when looking at culture, you are looking at bullshit as an analysis. Next. This survey studies an… Read more »
“Any time you see “Asian” when looking at culture, you are looking at bullshit as an analysis.”
In order to appeal to the Chinese market “Asian” actress Kelly Marie Tran was included in the cast of The Last Jedi. Tran is Viet. The Tran family specifically fought vicious wars with the Han.
Oops.
The people of southern Vietnam are not Viets. They are Champa. The “Vietnam War” was not a battle between capitalism and communism. It was a battle in a race war that had been ongoing for circa 1000 years.
Relevant read
https://www.amazon.com/Erotic-Mind-Unlocking-Sources-Fulfillment/dp/0060984287
You mean there are shias and sunnis and not all of them are Arab but both are muslim?
…. Fuucckkk.
George W Bush ( paraphrase)
If most women think you’ve got your act together, they’ll be ready to make a man out of you. If they know you’ve got your finances in order, they’ll jump you right there and then. I think Sean Combs said it best when ruminating about life after fame and fortune had struck on the track ‘Feel so Good’ “I’m getting hit on by girls, who use to hardly speak!” Women’s assessment of his desirability had changed dramatically. But on the track ‘All about the Benjamins’ a stark confession is made. “Now I only hit chicks who win beauty pageants.” Sean… Read more »
J Jordan was raised here in Newark. He comes back often to speak at schools all over the city. He’s offered to speak at the young men’s gatherings I attend often. Women like.muscularity and definition, and not particularly size. Men are more impressed by size and we tend to project that idea on women. It’s similar to the way men will always notice a chick with double d’s. Even if you’re not a ” breast man “. I don’t think it’s 100% true that being” handsome ” made things easier. It was Game+ that allowed my teenaged self to hang… Read more »
Ollie
😂.stop it man! Wrong frame.
Having money or game sn’t the same as true desire. Differentiate.
Women have driven combs crazy and drained a sizeable portion of his bank account. My wife wanted nothing when we divorced. Ride or die man, ride or die.😁
HABD
“unless encouraging men to be more girlish was like, you know, a sh*t test…lol…”
Some ideas here:
Hypergamy is ever present.
Hypergamy benefits women.
Shit tests are an observation of hypergamy.
Failed shit tests prompt more shit testing.
Increased levels of shit testing indicates increased female dissatisfaction.
Female dissatisfaction is at an all time high.
Question for my peeps…
How is unchecked hypergamy benefiting women when they are completely miserable as a demographic?
I have my ideas.
Re: Blax trying to seem clever. No Blax, it’s nothing like the difference between Shia and Sunni, you dumb fuck. I’m talking about different nationalities, races and ethnicities, you are discussing schisms within a religion. And even so, when it comes to hating the West, Shia and Sunni often collaborate. But hey, I’m sure you felt clever, and after all, that’s the point of most of your commentary here. Aggrandizing yourself. I bet you re-read your own comments and jack off while doing so. Again. For the 1000th time, you are not as well informed about the subjects you run… Read more »
Donovan, my statement had nothing to do with your ranting you hyperactive dickhead.
To shovel or something.
I’m sorey, I meant to shovel while reading a fucking book.
Unlike you, you simpleminded asswipe, I have actual Muslims in my famiky, and have attended mosques of to the sects. I didn’t have to go and read any ‘ book ‘ other than the Quran.
Keep fucking with me until I get tired of you…… Because you are starting to deserve it.😁
Should I demonstrate what clever is?
I hate bullies and assholes. There are many ways to deal with them, and always have been.
As a world traveler and observer of my fellow humans. This is 100% true. My former Blue Pill self wishes it wasn’t so. However, I prefer the unpleasant truth over the comforting lies of Equalism.
@kfg
In order to appeal to the Chinese market “Asian” actress Kelly Marie Tran was included in the cast of The Last Jedi. Tran is Viet. The Tran family specifically fought vicious wars with the Han.
Oops.
dunning-kruger strikes again…lol
good luck!
@EhIntellect HABD “unless encouraging men to be more girlish was like, you know, a sh*t test…lol…” Some ideas here: Hypergamy is ever present. true… Hypergamy benefits women. nope… hypergamy benefits the continuation of the species in a chaotic, constantly changing environment… how society structures itself to address that hypergamy determines what happens to that society… but girls are just girls…lol… always… Shit tests are an observation of hypergamy. true… but understand their purpose… they are a filter… Failed shit tests prompt more shit testing. no… at least not always… she might just give up when you fail enough…lol… but passing… Read more »
Now Now girls, everyone aughta know that you can’t be a conqueror and make it look easy unless you can shill for your own race.
The older I get, the more I come to the conclusion, that there is NO such thing as GLOBAL sexual marketplace. The Global Sexual Marketplace is as illusion of Clown World, fueled by the internet, Social Media, and dating apps like Tinder. Always go local. Stick to the women of your own people. If you are an Indian guy? Ask your parents to arrange a marriage with a good Indian girl. Chineese? Stick to Chineese girls. Arab? Find a good Muslim girl. Same is true to Western and American guys. Do not go to Eastern-Europe dreaming of finding your feminine,… Read more »
https://youtu.be/MzGnX-MbYE4
https://youtu.be/6Zxy_dScjsM
All this talk about race is messing with my acceptable people list. It once was so simple, now I got to create in-group stereotypes. I know two black men, Blax and my brother-in-law. Both are swashbuckling pussyslayers. So to me it seems logical all black men are so. Then we got the Asian-y, Chinamen and anyone who looks like the HuHot guy types. They seem smart and industrious and make spicy noodles. Then you have the Jews. The Mossad is badass. Seems to me that covers most of the acceptable world. But there’s one group of people I never understood… Read more »
Oh I forgot one group.
The monomorphic blob of good-looking symmetric faced white people.
Ugly white people don’t count.
I kind of tuned out on the video when it said white men have life on “easy mode”.
We need some rucka rucka ali now to help celebrate our alphabet soup barbecue tea ceremony church luncheon mastadon killing kegger.
“Ugly white people don’t count.”
cuz they got expelled for being ugly
@ The Inimitable NEET I read your comment yesterday and it’s still resonating. Especially the part where you said that the so-called losers of the Mating Game are also the backbone of civilisation. Indeed, the whole idea of ‘civilised behaviour’ is one I struggle with. On the one hand, I want to be more Alpha because I want to have more and better sex with women. On the other, the men I know who are successful with women are not men I want to emulate. They seem to see the world as a playground and tend to be self-centred and… Read more »
“Is that a fair summary of Alpha and Beta traits? That Alpha is about ‘Being Wild’ and Beta is about ‘Being Civilised’?”
It would be more accurate to say that they are more and less controlled by others. Civilization depends on both those who make rules and those who follow them. Civilization is hierarchy.
Without a leader to order it or followers to build it, this would not exist:
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Not necessarily. Mindset, not demographic. Oh, and the world is actually your playground once you recognize it. As far as the whole married women thing, I have a personal policy against banging other men’s wives, but it’s a personal policy. Yes, if a wife is banging other men, it is the fault of the husband. Men seem sex with willing women, period. I think a woman that is getting what she needs naturally ( not materially) is multiple times less likely to cheat. Some women have a mentality that lends itself to being unfaithful. Men need to understand how to… Read more »
@ kfg Impressive castle! But I think it illustrates the point NEET was making about Betas being the backbone of civilisation. Assuming the leader who ordered the building of that castle was Alpha, he needed a small army of Betas to carry out those orders. I mean, if they were all Alphas, they’d be fighting for dominance, right? Also, I respectfully disagree with your assertion ‘civilisation is hierarchy’. As Jordan Peterson famously pointed out, lobsters form hierarchies. Chimps form hierarchies. The Mongol hordes were hierarchical. In other words, hierarchies can be barbaric. (Okay, technically any society of persons can be… Read more »
Kfg,
I agree about ” control “. It’s been a factor in my life, that feeling and recognition of being controlled. Harnessed, if you will.
I’ve learned to give only a measure of compliance, or the appearance of compliance, without becoming compliant.
A man can have/display dominance without fighting.
Alphas can build and cooperate. Betas can also be barbaric.
Betas aren’t all punk weaklings that fold up like cheap card tables. Both alpha and beta consist of varying degrees.
“I think it illustrates the point NEET was making about Betas being the backbone of civilisation.”
There are always more people doing the work than people directing the work. That’s the way it works.
“I respectfully disagree with your assertion ‘civilisation is hierarchy’.”
The equation is not commutative. I did not say that hierarchy is civilization.
@ kfg
So just to clarify: When you say ‘Civilisation is hierarchy’, you mean that civilisation is hierarchical? (In other words, all civilisations are hierarchies, but not every hierarchy is a civilisation?)
@ Blaximus “Alphas can build and cooperate. Betas can also be barbaric.” I’m having trouble with this one. If Alphas and Betas are different types of men, then fair enough. But you also speak of Alpha and Beta as mindsets, which means (in theory) that I’m an Alpha is I have an Alpha mindset or a Beta if I have a Beta mindset. Is that what you mean? (Of course, it possible to THINK you have an Alpha mindset when actually it’s Beta, but that’s not what I’m talking about.) I also struggle to see how barbaric behaviour can be… Read more »
NB: I haven’t read any comment since my last re:Blax. And won’t. I’m not here to have a fucking coffee klatch with you girls… @Newbies and Red Pillers who have a funny feeling in their tummy that the puerile satisfaction one gains from becoming MGTOW may not be enough. I keep getting dinged on style points here, and tbh, I enjoy whipping the monkey shit around here. It amuses me. But today I’m going to refrain from the rhetorical excesses. And I’ll get to the point. I ran into MGTOW early on in my Red Pill journey. During the anger… Read more »
” . . . all civilisations are hierarchies, but not every hierarchy is a civilisation?” That is correct. Hierarchy is one of the defining traits of civilization. A defining trait of the hierarchy itself is that it contains an administrative class supported by a laboring class. Note: Since his focus is more on civilization than intersexual dynamics, Vox Day’s social hierarchy can be more useful than the simple alpha/beta model we use here. In the VD model what we are calling betas he would call deltas. Lord of the Castle: Alpha (1) The Lord’s Lieutenants: Beta (24) The People who… Read more »
” . . . betas “can be barbaric” . . .”
A beta with a chip on his shoulder is most likely to “go berserker.” He is looking to move up.
Alphas are most likely to avoid conflict. They are looking to not get knocked down. See King Pyrrhus.
spergy literary analysis trigger warning!!!
@kfg
Typically, in a prose context, commutativity applies between two nouns. However, charitable and careful reading would have recognized your intended meaning of “is”.
“I did not have sex with that woman, Monica Lewinsky.” This spurred the initial analysis that led to the postmodern, socialistic definition of “is.” “WhateverthehellIwantItToMean”
To ‘go berserk’ is to behave in a frenzied and violent manner.
Akin to run amok. To ‘run amok’, is to behave in a wild or unruly manner.
Unattractive.
See: Shadow Self/Dark Side of oneself. A competent individual recognizes his dark side and uses it in a controlled fashion (called self discipline).For a Beta, the shadow self tortures himself into self suppression. Self discipline is not self suppression.
Self suppression is Beta.
” . . . charitable and careful reading would have recognized your intended meaning of “is”.” If one had noted the word “equation” charity would not be needed. “Hierarchy” and “Civilization” are functions. They are, however, also both nouns that share neither identity nor equivalence and are thus linguistically not commutative. I was once called upon to translate the Italian advertising phrase “Su Mesura” into English. Idiomatically that would be “Made to Measure” or “Tailor Made.” However, as an advertising slogan I immediately recognized it as being a translation from English in the first place. The original was “Custom Blended.”… Read more »
@ scribblerg “I discovered I was a “natural alpha” (a thought that never occurred to me until another Red Pill friend began laughing hysterically when he told me i was and realized I had no idea)” But isn’t it Blue Pill to be a natural alpha and not aware of it? This is not meant as snark. My understanding of the ‘Red Pill/Blue Pill’ metaphor is that the Blue Pill stands for illusions, propaganda, untruths that have been internalised. In that context, to be an alpha who thinks they’re a beta is just as Blue Pill as a beta who… Read more »
You can fall off a building, and even know that you have fallen off a building, without knowing the laws of gravitation.
“Impressive castle! ”
That’s what she said.
@Blaximus Hypergamy serves men of status well. A side effect of social proof and wealth is the pick of the litter. Money means something to those who don’t have it. When you’ve experienced the best life has to offer what’s left to preoccupy your time, besides your biological imperative? The women Sean Combs is associated with come straight out of a Estee Lauder catalogue. These women can make you forget all your worries and cares and convince you, the only life worth living is with her. To be irresponsible with beauty at your side must be quite the drug. Blaximus,… Read more »
Deltas gonna Delta:
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/613034/the-hipster-effect-why-anti-conformists-always-end-up-looking-the-same/
“To be irresponsible with beauty at your side must be quite the drug.”
They’re.Just.Girls. There are billions of them and they make new ones every day.
” . . . the pick of the litter.”
OK, so there are hundreds of millions of them and they make new ones every day. Happy now?
Cartoonist
Blue Pill vs Red Pill – these are mindsets. How you perceive actions, things, etc.
Alpha vs Beta – these are actions.
Plenty of Blue Pill Alpha guys around. No contradiction.
Ollie Combs is not alpha by any means. Money and status don’t denote alpha. That’s beta thinking. That’s what I was getting at when I said that women can be fooled wrt alpha, but the charade can’t be kept up. If that weren’t the case, no wealthy high status men would ever get fucked over by women. Ever. Pedestalizing hot women is a sign of beta. They are what they are. Women take great advantage of most men who are willing to pedestalize them for nothing more than how they look….in makeup….with color treated hair….and possibly implants😁 Ever hear of… Read more »
“That’s beta thinking.”
That’s Blue Pill thinking, not beta thinking. People often confuse the Blue Pill with beta characteristics.
if I have higher status, I get my pick of women “. Nah, not really. What you most likely get is a headache
or,like Rob Lowe, a lawsuit
“A side effect of social proof and wealth is the pick of the litter”
“A side effect of social proof is the pick of the litter”
fify…and you could be a drug kingpin or POTUS or even a lowly dj or even Blax and have social proof.
” . . . how they look….in makeup….” I thought it was interesting that he chose the Estee Lauder catalog as his reference. Any girl can have her face done and most of them do. So anyway, I went to the Estee Lauder website and I have to give them props. Their marketing is dominated by pictures of . . . the product! I didn’t know people still did that. But of the three girls they picture on the main page, one would be meh, one the cute girl from the block and one might make pick of the litter… Read more »
Lol. I’m resisting the urge to repost the bunch of ” women applying makeup for drastic change in appearance ” videos from YouTube.
Most men don’t get makeup.
Sandblasting.😂
From Personal experience. A Hindu perspective. As far as I know and have observed from my interactions with other Hindu guys, most want white chicks for Fucking and not for LTR. If the Hindu guy is traditional and a practicing Hindu then it is even more certain. The 4 points you mentioned are true, as they are sort of built in mechanisms to prevent Hypergamy. What a traditional Hindu guy looks for in a woman if he wants to marry her and have LTR are loosely these: 1. High qualification in formal education (Most guys prefer that the girl atleast… Read more »
Every time I watch RMG I learn from Rollo. Looks don’t make the mindset. Alpha is a state of mind. Mindset Frame – Context. Edge Can’t have the second or third without the first. Time spent on mindset is the most important as the rest will follow. I find it hard to know when to dominate and control. When to talk and when to listen. Talking is an edge, but also a weakness. I think listening to my personal counseling session once every few days or once a week for repetition is a good start. Repetition = learning. Listening works… Read more »
It’s not so much the % you talk to her, rather what and how you talk to her.
@Blaximus
…giant cock…
whoa… whoa… whoa!!! let’s not go crazy!… I gotta keep SOME BP ideas for my success…lol
good luck!
@David Eagen “I find it hard to know when to dominate and control.” I’ve been posting a lot about the necessity of developing your skill to calibrate the mood and behavior of others. There’s verbal intelligence and nonverbal intelligence as well. Both are helpful, but nonverbal intelligence is essential. Meld your skill at reading nonverbal communication with Mystery’s IOI/IOD/Qualify Feedback loop (cue Sentient) and you’re golden. Think “lead” rather than “dominate and control”. You want girls eating out of your hand because they can’t stand to be parted from you and they fear pushing you away with any negative behavior.… Read more »
“It’s not so much the % you talk to her, rather what and how you talk to her.”
See, I’m into diversity…roman hands…russian tongue…
GIANT cock
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Found one of my old favorites…
“Money” Gives you opportunities to go on interesting dates your LTR. Good luck keeping that HB8+ around long term when you’re flat broke. “status” Gives you access to scenes filled with HB8+ targets. Good luck getting into high end venues when you’ve got zero status. And lets you date girls who otherwise wouldn’t give you the time of day without it (i.e. ugly niggas) “height” Increases the pool of girls that’ll give you a shot to game them. (5’5″ dudes, gotta stick with girls 5’5″ and under (inb4 “insert example of male celebrity dating a chick taller than him, see… Read more »
So what you are saying is that a man is no more than his bank account and physical attributes? Think carefully about what you’re saying. Re: sex game on point – more to it than but cock and knowing how to use it . But that’s another story for another time. Everything you’ve stated j is the opposite of Game. Complete 180. Like, you’re talking about anti-game or something😂. The majority of my dates never involved money. Most of my women had no clue what my bank account looked like. The only exceptions were when I’d go to the Caribbean… Read more »
J
“Good luck keeping that HB8+ around long term when you’re flat broke.”
Are you newly retarded?
I had no job, dropped out of college and lived with an 8…
Try this – spend less time reading stuff on the internet and more time living in the field.
“Limiting beliefs” are strong in this one…
Ummm, I enjoy being wealthy. It’s fun.
“So what you are saying is that a man is no more than his bank account and physical attributes?” No. Your physical attributes (face, height, frame) are a key component for Short Term Relationships (ONS, SNL, FBs). It’s not ALL that matters (game is still very important. I hate repeating myself, that I was completely clueless on girls, just a couple years ago. BUT I’m still 6 ft tall, similar built, and an above average face. Besides game, all that’s changed really is my fashion sense, hairstyle, and my skin is glowy (I know the site is frowned upon here,… Read more »
@J
Hey aren’t you in miami? I feel like I’ve seen you before.
“i had no job, dropped out of college and lived with an 8…”
props. I think I’d go insane tbh.
#1 attribute for any relationship where Preselection is involved is to enforce your boundaries…masculinity pings a girl’s sexual wiring and enforcing your boundaries is a demonstration of masculine high value…you do it with a few broads and they all talk about it and how much of a jerk you are and they all want to bang you… …you can be ugly, old, bald, fat, short and none of this matters… …and you want to acquire minor celebrity status of some sort…dj…community theatre…bouncer…bartender…premier dancer…dance instructor…because then women will seek your attention…not necessarily for banging, but for social cred…and this feeds into… Read more »
“Hey aren’t you in miami? I feel like I’ve seen you before.”
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@j I have a question. How did you evolve into these “lookism” type of opinions? I understand why most people on that site have those opinions – it’s the Eliot Rodger type of psychology. But it’s very unusual for someone with your background- of learning game and going from being unsuccessful with women to being successful- to have that kind of opinion. Men with that kind of opinion tend to be either incel Rodger types or really good looking natural guys who don’t know what else to attribute their success to and wouldn’t think about what their attitude is etc.… Read more »
Strange, right?
@Blaximus
“Money and status don’t denote alpha.”
If alpha lies upon a spectrum, then money and status are closer to it’s extremes.
“Women take great advantage of most men who are willing to pedestalize them for nothing more than how they look….in makeup….with color treated hair….and possibly implants.”
No doubt.
“and having your mental point of origin focused on chicks is a dangerous way to go about life.”
I agree..
“I’d never trade my life for his.”
Please.
J, Game will get you got chicks. Period. It will also get you a slew of other things. Guys that don’t know or understand Game can’t fathom this idea. That’s one of the ways that ” game recognize game “. My previous statement was that there are high hb chicks all over the place. The ” hb8-9 ” are uncommon. Get it? Any guy that tells me he was in a club packed with hb8’s needs glasses. If an hb5 is in the middle, average, then a 7 is higher, no? Most men will never Fuck anything higher than a… Read more »
Ollie
Money has no relation to alpha at all. Men will tend to project and defer to money. Women too, but they catch on more quickly than men.
A beta with a billion bucks is still a beta billionaire ( I’m looking at you Bezos).a
Mindset.
Period.
@Culum “How did you evolve into these “lookism” type of opinions?” I became unsatisfied with the “game is everything” conclusion. At first, I admit, I was pretty lazy. I was just a clueless 21 year old kid who didn’t know anything about girls, so I just trusted YaReally, this Game Messiah, who seemed to be the expert that had all the answers to everything wrt girls. And I was actually getting results by following his advice. I also related so much to his stories about his journey from incel to slayer, so I didn’t really question anything he said. And,… Read more »
“But being the hottest girl in the club, or at your school doesn’t elevate her automatically above what she is”.
Sometimes I really regret not taking a pic of every girl I ONS….
For 10 years I had a Filipina girlfriend. I lived with her for most of that time. She was very pretty and young looking. She was 30 when I met her but looked 20. I am 5’7 and couldn’t get a white girl that looked that good. Looks are important to me. If she isn’t pretty I would rather be alone. The problem is this Filipina was insanely jealous. At first that made me feel good but it was so over the top and crazy that I lost interest in her. I stayed in the unhappy relationship mostly out of… Read more »
Once again you drop a nuclear class knowledge bomb Rollo…
A LOT to chew on here…
I’d add that the age of social media has rapidly accelerated the global SMP shift
My previous statement was that there are high hb chicks all over the place. The ” hb8-9 ” are uncommon. Get it? Any guy that tells me he was in a club packed with hb8’s needs glasses. If an hb5 is in the middle, average, then a 7 is higher, no? Most men will never Fuck anything higher than a 6-7, and it’s not for lack of trying, but because 8-9’s aren’t everywhere. It’s not because they are all somewhere else, it’s because only so many are born in the first place. Yes, exactly. In almost all situations, the prettiest… Read more »
J I get what you’re saying, and yes, I’m in the ” Game is everything ” camp, but as you know my definition of Game is very different from pick up. Game changed and cemented my mindset from a young age, and lots of side benefits happened because of it. It only becomes apparent though when you compare your station in life with that of your peers, and dig down into the reasons and mechanisms behind the differing results. Any success with chicks was mainly driven by who I was and what I did, and how I did it. What… Read more »
Women? Build it/you, and they will come. They can’t help it. “They can’t help it”. The third time this happened within a six month period I finally figured out what I was seeing. I’m moving through some shopping venue like a supermarket or department store. Now remember I’m only halfway there, so half the time I’m legitimately mastering my environment, and half the time I’m still faking it to make it. Either way I’m moving around the place confidently, checking the area from a security standpoint and also on the lookout for observable intersexual dynamics of the sort Rollo (and… Read more »
@J my looks were what got them interested in the first place. …so if you wait for a girl to invite you to come talk to her (by gazing at you), then you will come to the conclusion that looks are very important…I don’t disagree with this…an ugly guy has to cold approach without the invitation…he has to get that social hook very quickly…or his behavior has to get him a social hook for the whole club… …like me last night…I went to a salsa club…hadn’t been there in six months…I saw a few people I know, but I didn’t… Read more »
J. Culum “. Aka lift, learn to do cool things while learning pick up. This is better, I think, than YaReally’s method of focusing exclusively on game because it’s all it matters” This analysis leaves out crucial REAL WORLD experience that Lookism retarded simply don’t have. The rest of Yareallys argument would go on to say those 8 9 and 10 girl’s would find themselves with groups of guys who were all good looking and interesting and had money, club status etc… So you are again back to game when the demographic is the same. [For the record – the… Read more »
Wake up every morning with the mental point of focus to Chase Excellence not women. Send invites as a matter of course and if the invited women knock on the door let them in.
Some of the most egregious instances of hypergamy can be seen under the bright lights of the casino industry. There’s no shame among participants and anything goes. I’m sure Rollo has seen things in a casino which made him do a double take. But few environments can rival it. The conclusion unfettered hypergamy as seen there and online in places such as tinder and elsewhere is a systemic problem in the sexual marketplace and has plagued us for a while now. No sane person can disagree with the analysis. Though my bone of contention is the emphasis which it’s been… Read more »
@blax “What I’ve witnessed just doesn’t jive with any ” looks are everything ” more of thinking, and I get that you aren’t fully in that camp either.” lol Thank you. Obviously as you can see from Sentient’s reply below, he still doesn’t get it (boxing me in again with the “looks are everything, game is bullshit” lookism group). Upon approaching a chick, you’re either going to be a ‘yes’ (far above her Looks Threshold i.e. you’re her type), a ‘maybe’ (slightly above her Looks Threshold), or a ‘no’ (below her Looks Threshold). (Sentient: “The rest of Yareallys argument would… Read more »
Wake up every morning with the mental point of focus to Chase Excellence
This assumes a strong awareness of your masculine identity. If you don’t have that, you need to become more self-aware. But if you are confident in your masculinity, probably the best payback for chasing excellence is chasing excellence in social skills and contacts because that leads to business opportunities. Adding other kinds of excellence will add other opportunities.
The lucky are the people who have their tickets for the opportunity bus when it rolls around. Be prepared.
Wait, so you’re saying proles can’t breed with women who are taller than them??
But when you’re a ‘no’, you’re toast. Never be a ‘no’. It’s not that hard. Generate social proof so that you’ve got the social hook with all the girls in the room. Then you’re at least at ‘maybe.’ If you’re not used to doing this, you have to learn the skills to generate social proof. This is a “high energy” approach. It’s a major DHV. There are two girls at a particular bar who have avoided me in the past. ‘No’ girls, you’d think. One of them is at least a little bit excited when I catch her eye. One… Read more »
” . . . feminism was able to create the feminine imperative . . .” No. The feminine imperative is innate in being female and inherently requiring a feminine sexual strategy. The female birds and bees have it. Even female plants have it. The correct response of the male imperative to the female imperative taking a step back would have been taking a step back as well. This would have maintained an even tension balance with zero net force on the center point. It would, however, have resulted in an increased total tension in the line, straining its capacity to… Read more »
“Wait, so you’re saying proles can’t breed with women who are taller than them??”
“Girls all over the world overwhelmingly prefer a man to be taller than they are” – Rollo Tomassi.
But isn’t the context important? These people get together and not all of them end up in the same looks tier because of extenuating circumstances(game).
Oh but then the women fuck with men’s self esteem to get the men acting like bitches so women rationalize further shit post-facto. All the while their eggs dry up and……..
J
Look man, you wrre the guy professing leg extension surgery…
On this
“In a cold approach scenario, When you’re a ‘yes’, all you’ve got to do really, is not fuck it up. ”
This just shows you are not hanging out with actual 8+ chicks… 7s are the ones most responsive to looks like you describe. Your digital catalog to date supports this as well.
One thing about Yareally, he stressed field being King. That was right. Time for you to get more experience. This will change your beliefs.
He probably means leg extension is necessary if you’re too cheap to go live in a coastal city.
“Finally, I want to point out that while our expanding globalization has given rise to a global SMP, that expansion is rooted in Gynocentrism. Since the time of the Sexual Revolution an unfettered, unconstrained Hypergamy has dictated this global sexual marketplace. The world-scale SMP is driven by women’s prime-directives, not men’s.” Why exactly is the global SMP rooted in gynocentrism, other than the commonplace that women, as the gatekeepers of sex, generally define the SMP? (absent unusual conditions that strongly favour men – which usually boils down to a shortage of men e.g. post WW2 Russia, maybe modern China). A… Read more »
@Sentient “you wrre the guy professing leg extension surgery…” Really not gonna let that one go I see 😉 But, yeah dudes 5 ‘1″ and under, might wanna look into it, if they like tall girls. Or just get elevator shoes like Downey Jr. Less painful. “not fuck it up” = don’t be boring/weirdo/creepy. If you wanna call that “Game” lol ok bro go ahead, but that’s not really game to me. If she views you as a ‘yes’ then she’ll make it easy for you. Less shit tests, giving you her full attention right away, laughing at your jokes… Read more »
They might not be winners but, in the future generation, they’ll make a nice pillow fluffer to some other globe-trotting cretin. The airlines need to get their workforce from somewhere…
@Hugh “women, as the gatekeepers of sex,” “women, as the gatekeepers of sex as far as betas are concerned” fify @J “If she views you as a ‘yes’ then she’ll make it easy for you. Less shit tests, giving you her full attention right away,” two shit tests are standard, no matter what…and you will be expected to blow them away…you still have to handle logistics, which is what fucks up most hookups…sure, the girl will give you lots of IOIs, but it’s easy to overgame…and cockblocking can still occur…basically, you still have to know the drill…you just don’t have… Read more »