We live in a very dangerous age for men. The Blue Pill is even more of a liability today than it was in times past, because we live in an era that encourages men going all-in in their life’s investment in that conditioning.
Welcome to the #MeToo era. What we’re experiencing in our social environment today is a sea change in intersexual dynamics. The underlying fundamentals haven’t changed; our evolved natures and the latent purposes that are driven by them haven’t shifted, but the social dynamics and sexual acculturation that serve as checks and balances on them has drastically shifted, and in a very short time. While you could make an argument for an idealized free love era that took place right after the Sexual Revolution, now we find ourselves in a time that is so calculating in its design on intersexual social dynamics that it makes the late 60s seem romantically naive.
Back in October of 2014 I wrote a post called Yes Means Fear. This essay was a response to the, at that time new, Yes Means Yes sexual consent legislature that was being instituted on California university campuses. Dalrock had written similar essays regarding this latest form of sexual consent aptly titled The Sexual Revolution’s Arab Spring and Making the World Safe for Promiscuous Women. It may take you a while to review these posts, but please read these and skim the comments to get a gist of the conversations we had going on just three years ago.
One of these comments was the inimitable Deti:
At the end of the day, college women (soon all women) will be able to use the “lack of consent” law/policy as a weapon against undesirable men to do the following:
1. Weed out and eliminate unattractive men by chilling their conduct
2. Making even the most innocuous sexual conduct (i.e. approaching, asking for dates) so dangerous that the only men who will engage in the SMP are attractive men with proven successful sexual track records who will never get reported for doing anything “untoward”; thus ensuring that only attractive men will approach them for dates and sex
3. Giving women more power over the SMP so even unattractive women can use and select men for alpha fux; then have the sole ability to pursue and select men for beta bux when they see fit.
Open hypergamy. It will be “we women are going to do this, and if you want sex, you’ll do it our way, and there’s not a damn thing you can do about it.”
Deti posted this comment on October 15th, 2014. The inter-blog debate then (at places like the now defunct Hooking Up Smart) was that Yes Means Yes was solely meant as a firm response to the supposed on-campus rape /sex assault panic that was being circulated in the mainstream media at the time. From the Red Pill perspective, we saw what potential this legislation represented to what would later become a societal scale institution.
Of course, they called us reactionaries, called us ‘rape apologists’ for simply pointing out all the ways this legislation would be expanded to a societal scale. They said we were exaggerating when we illustrated that, even for long-married couples, there would need to be a check list of approved acts of intimacy for each and every act performed, and men would need some form of hard evidence to prove that consent had indeed been granted.
The new California college/university sexual assault policy requires the following:
“An affirmative consent standard in the determination of whether consent was given by both parties to sexual activity. “Affirmative consent” means affirmative, conscious, and voluntary agreement to engage in sexual activity. It is the responsibility of each person involved in the sexual activity to ensure that he or she has the affirmative consent of the other or others to engage in the sexual activity. Lack of protest or resistance does not mean consent, nor does silence mean consent. Affirmative consent must be ongoing throughout a sexual activity and can be revoked at any time. The existence of a dating relationship between the persons involved, or the fact of past sexual relations between them, should never by itself be assumed to be an indicator of consent.”
There was sex, which is clearly “sexual activity.” The question then becomes whether there was “affirmative consent”. In order for there not be consent, the woman would have had to show affirmative conscious and voluntary agreement to engage in sex with the man. It is the man’s responsibility to make sure he had that consent. She had to manifest, verbally or nonverbally, consent to it.
Silence doesn’t mean consent. Her not resisting or saying “no, please stop” doesn’t constitute “affirmative consent”. So really, the only way to make sure that consent is present is for the man to continue asking her throughout the encounter: “Is this OK? Can I keep doing this? Is this thrust OK with you? Is THIS thrust OK? Can I thrust again? How about this one? Can I keep going? Do you want me to stop?”
If that did NOT happen, if the man did not get EXPRESS, VERBAL statements that he could continue, then yes, there was sexual assault.
The way this plays out in situations like this is that verbal consent is REQUIRED. She cannot manifest “ongoing” “affirmative consent” any other way. That’s because of the way the law is written. Lack of protest is not consent. Lack of resistance is not consent. Silence is not consent. Thus, a wife, just lying there, starfishing it, giving duty sex to her husband, is putting him in jeopardy, because she is not manifesting “ongoing” “affirmative consent”.
All of that they said was ridiculous. Women would never be so petty as to make a man ask permission for, nor hold him accountable for, sex that she wanted to have with him. Furthermore, this ruling was only meant to curb campus assault; any extrapolating to a larger societal norm, we were told, was just us Red Pill men and their insecurities about the intentions of women and sex. If we’d Just Get It we’ll have no problems.
We were told it was limited to penis-in-vagina sex only. We were told it was just in cases of “drunken sex”. All of these proved false. This law was intended to govern, regulate and control every single sexual interaction between a man and a woman. This law is intended to require a man to get express consent at every single step of the process, from initial touch to banging. This law is intended to chill all male sexual conduct. This law by its very terms requires express consent for every sexual act, starting with kino.
The goal of feminism is to remove all constraints on female sexuality while maximally restricting male sexuality – Heartiste
A World of Fear
When I wrote Yes Means Fear (also 3 years ago) it was initially in response to an article by Ezra Klein, Yes Means Yes is a terrible law, and I support it completely. This reads through as bad as any gender related article on Vox, but Klein’s salient point was summed up in one sentence.
To work, “Yes Means Yes” needs to create a world where men are afraid.
I’m reasonably sure Ezra was aware of the larger scope – larger than just California college campuses – that his giddy Beta love of a world where men would be afraid to so much as approach a woman would lead to. But now we find ourselves here in his idealized sexual marketplace founded on men fearing to interact with women at the risk of losing everything. At the risk of being Zeroed Out. Today, just three years later, we’re experiencing the #metoo moral panic based exactly in the fear Ezra said would serve us so well. Ezra must be proud that the gold rush hysteria of sexual misconduct allegations any and every woman (who ‘might’ have ever felt an accidental hip brush 50 years ago) feels entitled to is the result of this cleansing fear he loved so much. Unless he’s defending allegations himself of course.
If you go before the college board and say that the woman accusing you of assault simply doesn’t remember that she said yes because she was so drunk, then you’ve already lost.
Gone is the college board now in favor of the popular court of social justice – the court that condemns a man for even the suspicion of an allegation of sexual misconduct. Gone too is part of women’s remembering the pretense of a sexual encounter. Whether a woman was drunk and doesn’t remember the details, or if she conveniently recalls them 40-50 years after the fact is immaterial. The operative point is that we always believe any and every allegation of rape or misconduct a woman brings forward.
Articles of Belief
Shortly after I wrote Yes Means Fear I wrote Hysteria, an essay intended to address the disgraceful (now thoroughly proven) UVA fraternity rape hoax story written by Sabrina Erdley and published by a complicit Rolling Stone Magazine. Just daring to question the validity of so outrageous a rape account was heresy to women back then. Bear in mind this took place after the Yes Means Yes consent ruling in California. At this time, just to question the story of a woman’s rape account was enough to earn you the title of ‘rape apologist’. But moreover, we were popularly expected to repeat this mantra and always accept a woman’s account as infallibly true:
“No matter what Jackie said, we should automatically believe rape claims.” http://t.co/3HFlXR7jme True insanity pic.twitter.com/AFXIyn32FS
This was the sentiment (now deleted) tweeted by Zerlina Maxwell on December 6th, 2014. Since then this meme that anything a woman had to say about sexual assault must be believed by default has snowballed into a default belief that anything a woman alleges against a man must also be believed. Whereas a male college student might stand in front of his kangaroo court at a university, now men must stand in front of the kangaroo court of public opinion where a woman’s word outweighs all pretense of due process. That college kid is now the average man who must prove his innocence because if a woman alleges it due process is reversed.
What we’ve witnessed in just 3 years is the systematic removal of a man’s right to habeas corpus with regard to women’s allegations.
And I expect that this removal will extend to much more than just women’s believability in regard to sexual misconduct. Imagine a culture where it’s expected that anything a woman accuses her ex of is to be believed in divorce proceedings.
We’re now seeing exactly what myself, Deti, Dalrock and countless other Red Pill bloggers and commenters predicted would happen, but it’s also so much more that what we could see coming. In just 3 years Yes Means Yes moved off the campus and into mainstream culture; a culture predicated on female social primacy. In a feminine-primary social order even “affirmative consent” isn’t enough – “enthusiastic consent” must now be established and maintained. That “enthusiastic consent” is a new ambiguously defined terminology, and part of the larger narrative meant to further confuse and instill fear in men.
Last week Novaseeker, once again, had a terrific comment that illustrates what consent has come to today.
Yep, that’s the newest goalpost move.
We went from No means No (which meant that if she doesn’t say no, it’s on … which pretty much is the basic human mating script) to “affirmative consent” (“may I kiss you now” … “may I lick your breast now?”, etc., per the “rules” required before any physical contact *and* at “each stage of escalation”). Very few people actually follow affirmative consent, as we know, but it’s the rule at most colleges and universities. It isn’t the legal rule for rape, in terms of determining what was “consensual”, currently, but the FI is working on that, believe me.
Now, we have the goalposts moving even further along, from “affirmative consent” to “enthusiastic consent” — which means that if her consent is even verbally expressed, but isn’t clearly enthusiastic, then it isn’t “reliable as consent” because it could be the result of “pressure”, and if the consent “was real, it would be expressed enthusiastically, because when people really are consenting to sex, they’re always enthusiastic about it”. So essentially the standard they are pushing now (and which is getting rolled out on campuses right now) is that if the girl isn’t jumping your bones and begging for your cock, it’s rape/assault. Of course, again, not the legal standard, but that doesn’t matter that much — as we can all see what is happening right now is that the legal standard is being marginalized, because people can be destroyed in our media saturated environment without any involvement of the legal system at all, and the standards that apply in that extra-legal environment are the ones that the FI wants to apply, whether the legal system applies them or not.
There are a few ways to look at this, but one obvious one is that this is a way for the FI to tighten the screws on betas. Very little sex that betas have, if any, is “enthusiastic consent sex”. Everyone knows this. Under this standard, basically all sex with betas is rape. That’s the intention.
And thus we come full circle to the latent purpose of legislating Hypergamy that I’ve continually repeated in many essays. It is Roissy’s maxim of feminism: The end goal of feminism is to remove all constraints on female sexuality while maximally restricting male sexuality.
Recently I found myself in a Twitter war on a story by CBS Los Angeles asking whether it was still OK for men to hug women. I used the cartoon I posted in The Creep 2 to illustrate my bigger point:
What's ironic is that women get this white hot rage for lesser men approaching them at all. It's an insult to their need to optimize Hypergamy. That's the depth of female solipsism, they are so certain of their entitlement to an Alpha that they see Beta men as an insult to them.
— Rollo Tomassi (@RationalMale) December 5, 2017
And of course the feminist tropes (from men and women) and the point & sputter ad hominem attacks flowed from there. However, this rage is precisely what I would expect from women who are now coming into a default expectation (entitlement) of all men to ‘Just Get It‘.
Only in this instance it is Blue Pill, Beta men who should know better than to approach a woman below their (self-perceived) sexual market value. Those men, the lesser men that her social media overinflated sense of SMV has convinced her are beneath her attraction floor should ‘just get it’ that they shouldn’t be flirtatious or even too friendly with her or risk the punishment of an allegation that might be his zeroing out. The Beta man who doesn’t ‘get it’ is an insult to her self-worth and deserving of an optimized Hypergamy.
In the next post I’ll be exploring the ramifications of the “enthusiastic consent” concept and how even consensual-but-unwanted sex and “duty sex” will be the next chapter in marital rape. I’ll also be detailing the the “Cat Persons” story that’s been making the rounds this week.
Women prefer sexing Alphas and with men’s help are crafting society to those ends including open cuckoldery. We require Betas to provide what Alphas don’t. Extrapolating this further… Now into Brave New World territory. Wait…were there already somewhat re: sperm banks.Women choose only Alpha semen, supposedly. Theyll need provisioning and more Alpha sex. But no Alpha will submit sexually to cultural demands. They wont accept their women having as many or more partners than themselves, raising others8 children. 2 Betas will hookup with one woman. No chance two Alphas would. I cant imagine Alphas happily going along with it unless… Read more »
Hypergamy doesn’t care how Betas get their sexual needs met. CSI But look at Sweden which has made all prostitution illegal, It’s actually a bit worse than that, if my reading is correct. It’s a very minor crime for a woman to engage in prostitution, but Sweden has made it a bigger crime for a man to engage a prostitute. This is sort of like some US localities that started seizing cars from men driving in a known streetwalker zone: for looking like they are picking up a hooker they get arrested and the car is impounded or even seized… Read more »
2 Betas will hookup with one woman. No chance two Alphas would.
Happens all the time…alphas just won’t be exclusive
Sure enough, prostitution in Denmark is legal although pimping / running a brothel is not. There are known locations in Copenhagen where streetwalkers are found, but also a lot of advertising on the net for “escort services”. Iceland, Norway and Sweden all prohibit prostitution. https://infogalactic.com/info/Prostitution_in_Denmark I suppose the Swedish government could amp up surveillance on Swedish men who travel out of the country, singling out those that go to Germany or Netherlands or Denmark for special scrutiny. Except to parts of Sweden, Denmark is a ferry ride away. It’d be like US police in Seattle putting extra scrutiny on any… Read more »
Feminist lawmaking. https://infogalactic.com/info/Prostitution_in_Sweden The laws on prostitution in Sweden make it illegal to buy sexual services, but not to sell them. Pimping, procuring and operating a brothel are also illegal. The criminalisation of the purchase, but not selling, of sex was unique when first enacted in 1999, but since then Norway and Iceland have adopted similar legislation, both in 2009, followed by Canada in 2014 and Northern Ireland in 2015. It doesn’t appear to actually do much. However it was touted as a blow against teh patriarchy! Reading through the article brings home to me just how deeply feminist the… Read more »
@asdgamer
All the time?
Would you?
@ASDGamer “You all have missed the point of #metoo…the point is to show women the power they can have when they gang together to accuse men and so to get more women to gang together to accuse men…it’s a power display aimed at garnering more power…kind of like a tribe of men taking down an elephant herd by killing elephants individually.” That’s an important concept in the structure of Reality Transurfing. And Vadim Zeland give a whole structure of practical ways to combat that concept which he calls a Pendulum. Pendulum Thought energy is material and does not totally disappear… Read more »
However it ends….I predict a riot.
Girls run around with no clothes on
To borrow a pound for a condom
If it wasn’t for chip fat, well they’d be frozen
They’re not very sensible
I predict a riot, I predict a riot
I predict a riot, I predict a riot
https://youtu.be/iNxt9e1LQ6A
I’m seeing it as the manifestation of female micro psychology on the macro societal plane, it’s an iteration of the alpha fucks beta bucks paradigm on a societal level. Since overt alpha fucks is so predominant it only stands to reason that women will overtly virtue signal victimhood and righteousness for beta bucks pandering. It’s interesting to note the retrospective virtue signaling, there is nothing to gain other than to virtue signal in the beta bucks (post wall) domain. The FI is beginning to realize beta men are catching on to the second set of books and the FI is… Read more »
I must admit. Sometimes this is all very, very confusing. ” Hence retrospective virtue signaling and the public washing of the semen out of their hair, “See, I’m not a slut, the bad man made me do it, now come and comfort me.” ” The tensile strength of the blue pill must be astronomical. Women fuck. Full stop. Never ask a woman if she fucks, or who she’s fucked because you can never trust the answer. By the very same token, don’t listen to anything a woman has to say about ” sperm in her hair “. The sperm is… Read more »
If left unabated, the current shift may end up providing some extremely undesirable women with so much undeserved power, enforced by the artifices of culture and law, that they will be enabled to socially and legally destroy alpha males for not providing sexual favors. In effect, female rape of males could become a legally enforced and accepted social norm. Financial and character rape of men by women is already the norm and widely, almost universally, practiced. Legalized sexual rape of men by women is in a formative state. It is already happening to an extent considering the fact that many… Read more »
On my phone so don’t have the link with stats handy but I looked into the Swedish immigrant rape hysteria that is so popular on CH and similar blogs a while ago. It’s nonsense. The immigrants commit their share of rapes and sexual assaults no doubt – maybe even more than their share, but not enough to be statistically significant. The number of rapes/sexual assaults reported in Sweden has held steady for a long time (well over a decade or more I think). The vast number of immigrants and refugees in the last decade has not moved the numbers (there… Read more »
@ Culum
Congrats!
It makes for interesting hysterical reading, and is great as some kind of excuse, but the numbers never bore out what’s been reported in the sphere.
But CH commenters post delightful memes and pictures, so there’s that.
“ Claim: “There has been a major increase in the number of rapes in Sweden.” Facts: The number of reported rapes in Sweden has risen. But the definition of rape has broadened over time, which makes it difficult to compare the figures. It is also misleading to compare the figures with other countries, as many acts that are considered rape under Swedish law are not considered rape in many other countries. For example: If a woman in Sweden reports that she has been raped by her husband every night for a year, that is counted as 365 separate offences; in… Read more »
An interesting history on cuckolds…
abc.net.au/news/2017-12-20/cuckold-history-of-mens-rights-insult-the-conversation/9273074
The first comment in the comment section from the article linked above – ” Lucindal 16 minutes ago A woman’s body is a woman’s body. Just because I am married does not mean I will not sleep with other men, even if it’s behind my husband’s back. I’m sure if he found out he would be supportive (he’s understanding like that, but I guess that’s also part of the reason that I cheat anyway – who really wants to sleep with a guy that is that much of a pushover? Ironic. He’d probably get off on it knowing him LOL.)… Read more »
Maybe Harvey Weinstein was properly perceived as alpha back in the day?
“Harvey, now, everyone sees as this sort of repulsive monster…and what isn’t maybe brought forward is that he was also an extremely exciting, brilliant, stimulating person to be around.” -Zelda Perkins
https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/former-assistant-of-harvey-weinstein-breaks-silence-in-first-tv-interview/ar-BBH2K8R?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
#uraho
How can anyone marry a broad like that and have absolutely zero clue?
http://a.abcnews.com/images/Entertainment/bob-harvey-weinstein-young-gty-jef-171011_4x3_992.jpg
I’m curious. What do you know of that’s ever given you the slightest inkling that Harvey was/is alpha by any stretch of the imagination?
Was it the whole ” jerking off into potted plants ” thing?
http://images1.miaminewtimes.com/imager/eight-types-of-dolphins-fans/u/original/6547526/boyfriendfinspost.jpg
Think of a word Liz liked to use…”trust”. A married woman who goes out solo on the weekends told me her husband trusts her. She can squeeze in a short fuck during the few hours she goes out. And she can do a business trip and bring a fuckbuddy along for the ride, lol.
Rollo is exactly right. Now more than ever is the time to sharpen up, and become an expert in fact, at game. Game should be applied not only in the sexual context but in all others. The financial opportunities are at least as numerous as the sexual, I am currently experiencing this personally. Women are by nature less rational than men and tend more solipsistic. This makes them easy targets for a rational Machiavellian savy male. In the final analysis, it is the female who needs “morals” more than the male. This is why church membership is and has always… Read more »
I cant imagine Alphas happily going along with it unless a gun against their heads.
What makes you think the alphas would know they’re having carnal relations with the same woman? Very likely she won’t tell her multiple partners. Unless of course you’re talking about a threesome, train or whatever.
How can anyone marry a broad like that and have absolutely zero clue?
Extreme oneitis?
I clicked on and read every single response to your tweet and I regret doing so. Twitter is such a cesspool.
https://twitter.com/Donovan_Sharpe/status/943260343832158210
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEPmn8FHtDA
@ Trent Lane Well said, sir! Just how i think things will go myself. Women, not being at all logical, haven’t thought this one through. And how can unattractive women think they deserve desirable Alphas, anyways… I don’t really care what happens to the Beta schlubs who put no effort into self-improvement and masculinising themselves. They should grow a pair, and act like a man. What i don’t get, is who is behind this agenda? Who is giving it oxygen? It means nothing to me. Just continue to mock the feminists i say. Laugh at them, don’t give them the… Read more »
I caught the 11 o’clock news the other night. The lead-in was a young man was arrested and banned from the Pitt campus for “making several woman uncomfortable.” Some of the stories were that he approached a young woman and asked if she was a Pitt student, gave her a compliment like that she was beautiful, and asked for her phone number or to drop his number on her phone. After being told no by one young woman, in her words he then immediately left the area, and then she immediately called the police. Am I missing something? It fits… Read more »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7V8eZ1BLiI&feature=push-u&attr_tag=IlFKzzNH6LFkNDml-6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDHsnPM56gY
https://twitter.com/Donovan_Sharpe/status/942153780249886721
No means yes, yes means anal.
Sorry I had to…
kraMMark
Well, someone had to…
That reminds me, $usan Wal$h is apparently quitting her blog. Guess she’s finish-schooled enough sluts.
@Blax ‘numbers don’t lie’ Well that depends who is making the statistic dosent it. I forgot who’s quote it is but it goes something like: ‘there are lies, damn lies and statistics’. The whole ‘Sweden’s rape definition is much broader’ argument is particular interesting in the case of Mr. Arrange. In his case it was argued: ‘no no, Sweden’s definition is not that different’. The whole public discourse in and about Sweden and rape gets twisted and turned to fit the FI (why should it collectively be any different from an indvidual?). In regard to the numbers, one interesting thing… Read more »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrR9fZIkl8Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIqo_-O62dc
Dann auto correct, it was suppose to read ‘Mr. Assange”. Anyway here is a Swedish (immigrant) outlining the problem with the statistics in Sweden
https://youtu.be/nA9yjrqtWG0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=398qkvR92GU
Everything you do and say is recorded and will be seen and exploited.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpb2-ZOzc_o
Maybe this means the Burden of performance is going to have to be enhanced at the highest level for some sense of action within a community.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xIU-pL04Y0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTYjLoWdOYQ
Articles of Belief
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snLNPt9H5J4
A World of Fear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUVp_JeYf0w
“enthusiastic consent”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypBj0xDP-io
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwJyKpopqoA
A World of Fear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKeu5R9-ruE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3j6hIggNTY
Memoirs of a modern woman…
shesaid.com/4-lies-ive-told-everyone-ive-ever-had-sex-with/
If you read feminist literature though, the intent behind enthusiastic consent seems to have good intentions. Its based on the following purported beliefs: * that there is a huge incidence of coerced sex and sexual contact, which is mostly inadvertent rather than malicious. The best way to correct this is to teach men the principles of EC. * that the idea of a sharp alpha/beta divide in men’s sexual attractiveness is a myth propagated by the misogynistic Right. Furthermore, girls and women have a realistic idea of their own SMV and will be attracted to their male equivalent. Thus, feminists… Read more »
@ Roused
“Unless of course you’re talking about a threesome, train or whatever.”
Yes, I was pushing the envelope, there. I was thinking broadly too.
I’m creating a gynocracy scenario where women are polyandrous and expect only Alphas sex them, on demand.
At what point will reality trump the fiction of “compliant” legislated behavior, I.e. Alphas calling bullshit?
@rugby Dude? The videos? We get it. I can’t download this site on my page because the videos…One, two..ok…. Chill dude.
@SSFox
Read your link.
The rub: All her lies are ego protective solipsism. Guys don’t give a care if she thinks he’s sexy, hasn’t done this before, she isn’t that way, he’s the only one (this one was LOL). Esp. On a SNL or short term thing.
How cute. They’re such princesses, and easily manipulated.
“I don’t really care what happens to the Beta schlubs who put no effort into self-improvement and masculinising themselves.”
I’ll respect that. It wouldn’t help trying to unplug those guys anyways.
There are Betas, looking for help. They need a navigators, mentors.
Men are more varied than abject Beta and Alpha.
@Albert
Thanks for the facts from someone on the ground.
STEVE O
A comely co-ed was recently murdered at Pitt by her ex-boyfriend, so they may be on edge there. Google Alina’s Law.
AR
“Teledildonics?” I’ll bet Philip K Dick could run with that one
@ Trent Lane (previous page)
“Also women are human (big surprise, ya) and will still want and crave sex”
Want sex yes, “crave sex”… well, I doubt it in most cases.
I know I am looking at this from an unexperienced male perspective but if they did indeed crave sex it would be more obvious. Male prostitution (‘boyfriend experience?’) would also be more widespread, and so on.
Common sense has seldom failed me. For instance, even if I have zero desire for them, I can totally see how they crave babies, particularly at a certain age.
walawala
Its the symbols of danger and the tribe and culture. I posted those because of how they relate to the community and the culture.
Men are more varied than abject Beta and Alpha.
Taken at face value, this is Blue Pill bullshit…The Alpha/Beta divide is a cornerstone of RP praxeology…men may have a mix of alpha/beta characteristics, but essentially it comes down to mindset and frame…alphas are seek to advance their own interests/impose their will (dominance) and betas are about the interests/will of others (submission)
You have RP alphas, BP alphas, BP betas, and RP alphas-in-formation (formerly BP betas)
This may be one of the clearest and most concise statements of RP Praxeology.
We’ve argued BP Alpha before.
BP ideas reinforce working for others and by your definition he can not be Alpha.
What’s lesser Alpha/greater Beta? Bullshit too?
Interesting story at Breitbart about low wages for men with high school diplomas or less for an education…their workforce participation rate is way down since ’64. Manufacturing is way down since ’64…unskilled labor is impacted… http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/19/nine-million-men-pushed-out-of-workforce-by-government-low-wage-policies-obama-economist/ …but things are changing… Trump has reversed almost all Obama policies and now manufacturing is again increasing…more jobs available with stable labor numbers (reduced immigration) means more demand for labor means rising pay for unskilled labor. Tax cuts for corporations benefit the rich, no doubt, but they also provide incentive to create new manufacturing jobs. Robots eat heavily into unskilled job creation. Unskilled labor… Read more »
EI, Vox Day divided Alpha into lesser/greater/lambda and beta into greater/delta/epsilon/gamma/omega categories based on sexual experience. Rollo distinguishes based on mindset…apples and oranges
BP ideas reinforce working for others
But not sexual BP ideas…naturals may impose their will on women and advance their sexual interest and yet be Blue Pill, lock stock and barrel, pedestalizing women generally, be feminist, be for VAWA and no fault divorce, govt. handouts for single mommies, etc.
I see.
Bill Clinton politically did all that. Would he be BP? He doesn’t give a care about that leftist shit. He really doesn’t. It is a means to power. Notice how he caved politically after midterms?
BP Alphas are alphas primarily and use BP so long as it affords them sexual access.
Is Weinstein BP? I doubt it either, regardless of his statements.
walawala
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRabb6_Gr2Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHd31L6XPEQ
@AR “Consent” is not an issue with any of these options. Of course all of them are pretty weird to us right now. They may or may not become less weird as the march of the FI continues. was going to make a joke about sexbots… but it has already been done…lol https://www.dailydot.com/society/sex-doll-virginity-auction-brazil/ also, the natural ‘next-step’ (per OP issue) is that ‘betas’ (the 80/90 v the 20/10…), being good at analysis…, will figure out that even ‘offering to buy her dinner’ (much less actually taking her to dinner) will open them up to full amount of down-side risk… without… Read more »
habd i’d ‘lol’ if it wasn’t so tragic… Women have zero clue what it takes for a man to get to the stage where he “just gets it”. If this goes on…it wil become more and more difficult for younger men to have any reference experience with girls at all, which will Betaize them. Each one of us has to teach another man; hand him The Glasses, Red Pill him. Gee, if only some man had written a book or three on the topic that someone could hand out… so, it really is possible to be a BP ‘alpha’… socially… Read more »
Something…
https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/18/youtube-red-cancels-release-of-morgan-spurlocks-super-size-me-2-following-filmmakers-sexual-abuse-confessions/
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqc244
Paul Rusesabagina
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pItByOoNwg8
Focus on what your behavior is in the face of fear…
@AR “Each one of us has to teach another man; hand him The Glasses, Red Pill him. Gee, if only some man had written a book or three on the topic that someone could hand out…“ This idea above prompted my reply to SSFox. He spoke disdainfully of Betas, which I do get, though I don’t anymore. There’s enough hatred against men as a group already, I’d prefer not to contribute to that and am bold enough to speak for a lot of guys who comment here: We’re in this together, like it or not. The poem, “First They Came…”… Read more »
Seems like hes gonna assassinate your children for targeting him.
“Society-wide guard-dog spinup in progress?”
Yes.
In the trenches, women are uncomfortable with their new modern image.
I work with dozens of women daily. They’re all empowered with varied attendant testing.
This testing all happily ceases against men using a playful RP demeanor and embody masculinity.
I work with, as you described, powerful men who use high school idiocy to up their cred with women.
Verbatim: “Can you believe I just said that? I got the balls!”
The women laugh agreeably. He’s leveraging his position into soi-disant popularity.
The moment he touches any woman, he’s toast.
@AR
Society-wide guard-dog spinup in progress?
i think what’s going on now is more like the ‘getting knifed in the kitchen’ phase of the society-level spin-up…
sure, later she’ll be ‘oh, i’m sooo, sorry!’… but until then… kevlar kidney protectors… and don’t turn your back on her…
(and the remedy to survive the situ?… just leave/avoid the interaction before you get knifed…)
good luck!
@HABD
Some of us favor a sparring match to head off the knife in the back.
Playing off the Downey-Evans matchup, Mrs. Gamer thinks that Downey is the better looking of the two…hamster is spinning up because Downey’s game is better.
“I think what’s going on now is more like the ‘getting knifed in the kitchen’ phase of the society-level spin-up…“
Nice!
There’s really nothing beyond this phase. Different shades of male shaming. More of the same.
They don’t want to be men, need man sized provisioning, want their masculinity and will, by proxy or personally, whine their way to the social Alpha up.
Good luck with that.
I’m still waiting for a stone cold alpha, like Arnold Schwarzenegger, to be brought down. Weinstein and Lauer may have been wealthy and had a little power, but they’re not alphas. Any bets on whether it will happen? It seems like those who are talking about calibration and ripping on betas are speaking as if all the stories these women tell is true. Granted, some are (with the understanding that women often leave out key facts in in their own self-interest and public image). However, a lot of these “reports” are either one person’s skewed perspective (e.g. BPD, mental illness),… Read more »
habd i think what’s going on now is more like the ‘getting knifed in the kitchen’ phase of the society-level spin-up… EhIntellect There’s really nothing beyond this phase. Different shades of male shaming. More of the same. I wish I could agree with you, but can’t. Did you read Novaseeker’s remark up thread? The lesbian radfems in law schools tried to push “Yes means yes until it doesn’t” aka YmY into the model law code for the US. That effort failed, but the radfem activists will wait for another chance. Julian Assange has a warrant for his arrest in Sweden… Read more »
Great article Rollo, and your point is “dead on”…its more imperative to learn Game and be RP or suffer the consequences given today’s environment. All this #metoo is making loud and clear is the betas of the world know their place. Its actually doing men with Game and RP knowledge a huge favor, no girl under 40 is talking about this, they just are not. I’m not saying some of this is not dangerous, you are guilty before proven innocent, but a lot of the comments of bascially saying, “yep, its why MGTOW is right” is a cop out. Women… Read more »
GhostOfSteveMcQueen I’m still waiting for a stone cold alpha, like Arnold Schwarzenegger, to be brought down. LOL, whut? Your newsfeed over there in the graveyard must be really slow. Arnie got in a lot of trouble from his Kenedy / Shriver family wife for banging the ordinarly looking Mexican maid and knocking her up. If he was a stone cold Alpha he would have been stepping out on Shriver with prettier women, just for a start. She would have put up with it most likely, too; she is part of the Kennedy family, after all, it’s not like it would… Read more »
Oscar C. Since Sentient hasn’t showed up I guess I’ll have to do the job. Oscar: this is your mantra: Cats are not dogs. “Also women are human (big surprise, ya) and will still want and crave sex” Want sex yes, “crave sex”… well, I doubt it in most cases. There’s part of your problem… I know I am looking at this from an unexperienced male perspective …and there’s more of your problem. but if they did indeed crave sex it would be more obvious. What does “hidden estrus” mean to you? What does the fact that women’s sexual arousal… Read more »
@Craiger247
“Its actually doing men with Game and RP knowledge a huge favor…”
“Women are not going to all of a sudden stop responding to men acting like men, and having Game.”
This. Yuge opportunities with RP going forward, really, really yuge. Get on board before the train leaves the station.
@Craiger247 Your spot on with your analysis of that girls are still as fuckable as ever, all you need is game. Furthermore, like you pointed out the whole current cultural climate is creating a pre-selection pressure. However, you miss a vital aspect, same as the women who ridicule these men. Yes they may be ‘worthless betas’ in the eyes of women, however these men are what keep the show of civilisation going, as they man the power stations, drill for oil, tar the roads, build the buildings, stand in the factory line, drive the lorries, clear the snow, plow the… Read more »
“Want sex yes, “crave sex”… well, I doubt it in most cases.”
A woman will crawl over jagged obsidian to have sex with a man who spikes her emotions.
@ Anonymous Reader “Hypergamy doesn’t care how Betas get their sexual needs met. ” True, Hypergamy does not give a flying shit about that. But it needs Betas to take the women facing the wall, to wife them up and care for them. If those Betas are off banging escorts, this won’t fly at all. Now you can keep Betas in waiting forever. A man can suppress his urges and natural instincts, bullshit himself and literally go celibate for fucking DECADES if you dangle the pussy carrot in front of him, throw him breadcrumbs of attention and reassurence and tell him… Read more »
@AR habd i think what’s going on now is more like the ‘getting knifed in the kitchen’ phase of the society-level spin-up… EhIntellect There’s really nothing beyond this phase. Different shades of male shaming. More of the same. I wish I could agree with you, but can’t. if there is some room on the ‘other side,’ then you are probably right… since getting ‘knifed in the kitchen’ is pretty much the last event… girls are so solipsistic that even when that shit turns around and has huge negative impact on their own lives (husband/son/etc get fired/arrested for innocent behavior) they… Read more »
Tavis Smiley gets to say “this has gone too far” because it’s now taking out black men, and this was never intended to reach that level. It’s probably not popular to say it, but that seems to be what’s going on and it needs to be said. Smiley’s pushback gets more cred because it’s now SJW vs. SJW, progressive liberal vs. progressive liberal. Smiley is down with the cause, and is a part of a protected class, so he’s untouchable with respect to these claims.
Reblogged this on Red Pill Nation and commented:
Reblogging this hope you don’t mind
” That’s what I mean. The sisterhood uber alles will erode as soon as the average woman experiences unsettling consequences of mee-too in her day to day life. As soon as their men made resources start to fade away, women will keep themselves in check. It will be interesting to watch” And it will happen soon. The demographic wave is coming. The alphas winning the sex wars are not necessarily the astute businessmen running the companies, the framers building the houses, the linemen repairing atlantas power failure. As more and more men at work step back from women and say… Read more »
More weight!
“Women are not going to all of a sudden stop responding to men acting like men, and having Game.”
Gold
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/201001/women-in-bed-whats-all-the-noise-about-part-ii
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/201503/falling-in-love-vs-loving
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/201405/the-future-sex
Have you seen the latest law from Sweden, that ‘moral leader’? Their laws have just been changed from presumption of innocence to presumption of guilt in all allegations of a sexual nature.
Women dont want betas for sex. But they need betas for work. And a whole demographic of skilled workers are retiring. Even with full labour participation there are not enough. Now add the lowest labour participation rates ….Ever. Then look at the concentration of that available labour; in IT, finance, service industry. Now look where its not…agriculture, construction, transport, maintenance, medicine. You know the stuff that keeps men and women fed, housed, powered. Tomorrows men of power are not going to be hollywood or social media types. Its gonna be “Oh its 5 degrees and your furnace is out at… Read more »
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/201205/missing-the-point-prostitution
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/201201/open-marriage-hits-the-mainstream
Dangerous Times
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/201202/being-dexter-morgan
“Oh and have a chaperone, I dont go into single women’s houses…you know …allegations.”
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/201105/slutwalking-history
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/201103/does-civilization-make-us-happy
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/201009/getting-sex-backwards
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/201005/how-the-pill-could-ruin-your-life
“Their entire game is based on supplication and they think this together with their virtue signalling protects / entitles them”
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/201004/sexual-repression
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/201003/time-renegotiate-monogamy
As Trent said its going to have to cause them discomfort.
And its not going to be on the playingfield they think it is.
Withhold sex all you want. I will just withhold my crops, my tools.
You need to eat and stay warm waaaaaaay more than I need sex.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/201002/every-man-has-tiger-in-his-tank
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/201002/slimy-monogamy
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/201002/when-adulterer-doesnt-apologize
Rollo, I think we’re on a perhaps unstoppable downhill slide. I really look forward to the day when a man sues a woman for an unwanted sexual approach. It would take a ballsy guy to flip the script like that, but legally there would be nothing to prevent such a ‘success’, I believe.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/201002/what-if-loveless-marriage-were-illegal
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/201002/men-vs-monogamy
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/201001/sexual-hypocrisy
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/200912/the-power-and-peril-the-ridiculous
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/200912/sexual-terrorism-and-tiger
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/200909/destroying-kids-save-them-sex
The buffer between cause and effect is business\government. E.g. Trudeau just announced 70 million for venture capital grants…..but if they address getting diversity in VC. Yet most entrepenuers and people needing capital are….??? Anyone? Bueller?? And then they wonder why they dont get takers or they are low quality? Or Purdue Engineers (ok stop laughing). Um top science grades looking for a school to study Engineering?? Anyone?? Bueller? Or new coding at Goolag after the infamous emails last summer Who actually writes the new code next year?? P.s. is the romcon now dead?? I mean guys dont go to movies… Read more »
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/200908/sex-and-violence
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/200906/men-will-be-boys
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/200905/in-search-the-clitoral-truth
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/200904/how-old-was-old-20000-years-ago
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/200904/mysteries-masturbation
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/200812/who-enjoys-sex-more-men-or-women
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/200807/who-is-louder-in-bed
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/200803/french-women-sexual-predators
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/200905/does-god-favor-sexual-predators
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/200905/tortured-ecstasy
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/200906/false-premise-human-life-is-sacred
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/200906/is-human-life-sacred-part-ii
@Anonymous Reader @asd “Choking on the pill”, that’s a good one. Kinda true, I have to cut back the reading sometimes. The way I understood it (from family and general environment) you would meet somebody, start going out, and after a while be her boyfriend. I completely ignored how you had to be aggresively sexual and escalate early on; I assumed this was implicit in a boy-girl rapport, and that no sexual tension had to be induced by me. Anyways, I never saw women as delicate flowers. In the age of porn I wonder how that meme survives. Remember, I… Read more »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PI1xwT2-74
“She loves you for WHAT you are not WHO you are + Sluts vs. Studs” This is partially true. But, it is not the complete truth and its deviation from the complete truth serves as a subtle deception to keep you guessing, to keep you measuring yourself in terms of how you compare to WHAT she may or may not “love”. It is vitally important to understand (if you want to escape the bullshit) that you should IN NO WAY critique yourself in terms of how to gain her acceptance OTHER THAN and ONLY TO gain her “acceptance” to use… Read more »