Just a quick reminder here, Niko and I will be doing the Red Pill Monthly livestream this Friday morning. February 12th at 10 am PST. Last time was kind a of a dry run for us and people wanted some advance notice so they can participate in the live chat so here it is.
I have to do these as my schedule permits, so this time slot is by no means going to be a regular thing. Hopefully it works for everyone this month.
We’ll of course be discussing current events in the ‘sphere, but also some foundational Red Pill stuff, as well as taking questions live. If there’s something you’d like us to consider please feel free to leave your comment or question about it in today’s thread.
The link will be until Saturday.
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Hello my name is James ,I was listening to a radio broadcast and the host was talking to a Female about the new legislation for females to be listed for the draft. The reason I am bring this up is because I would like to hear a discussion on how Females only demand equality when it benifits them and they run for hills when it doesn`t. The Female guess was vehemently explaining how women oppose this idea by saying they were not pyschically mentally and emotional the same as their male counter part in this arena and should be consider… Read more »
“What will they do when gender is totally eradicated . . .”
It will never happen because they will never want it.
Thanks for the link I’ll be looking forward to what you guys have to say!
With that said, what do you think of the Brouhaha coming from The MSM regarding the backlash towards the Hillary Clinton campaign and First Wave feminists telling women that they need to betray themselves and vote Team Hillary as she’s a woman? Do you think there are some women out there that unknowingly are rejecting their Hypergamy during this election? I left the link if you’re not familiar with the story.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/08/us/politics/gloria-steinem-madeleine-albright-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders.html?_r=0
Cool, can’t wait to listen to it. Finally got around to listening to the other one (it’s easier for me to keep up w/ reading than audio/video) and thought the first RPM was a good start.
I won’t be able to make that time unfortunately. I’ll drop a topic suggestion/question here if one comes to mind.
Keeping people confused, angry, and inconfident is very competitive business.
Thanks Xsplat.
OT, Rollo, you might want to start reconsidering using Twitter:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-10/twitter-unveils-house-ministry-truth
Twitter is creating a council to “strike the right balance between fighting abuse and speaking truth to power”, and it includes organizations like Feminist Frequency, Anita Sarkesian’s brain rot.
It is starting to feel like 1984, literally day by day.
@Jeremy, thanks, but I am aware of it.
I think it would be a good discussion for both of you guys to discuss “filtering” women. What are the best traits to look for. Should she be hot(gets your dick up in the long run), hyper-feminine, submissive, ect… That would a good topic to discuss. Filtering for me has been an issue at times, & it would be a good subject to discuss.
Hi Rollo, I do have a question. It’s something I haven’t seen widely discussed. The question is: “From a Red Pill perspective, when do you decide to quit something: a relationship, a girl, a project?” I’m having a tough time consolidating the idea of letting go of a few things…the idea of “giving up” or letting go seems to clash with my own alpha beliefs (or mistaken beliefs??) that you don’t walk away from a situation. The question comes from a few things over the last few months where projects and girls I’ve been involved with just haven’t delivered the… Read more »
@ROLLO
You are probably already three steps ahead of this.But”if I was you”in light of current events down play or soft peddle the controversial stuff and stick to a complicated topic like gender complement.
My topic request (which I proposed a few weeks ago after the 1st one) is discussion on Frame, creating and holding Frame, clarifying what it is and isn’t and so on.
re: Twitter. Not surprising at all, although I must say, I don’t understand why they think it’s a smart business decision to go FULL BORE on the SJW stuff.
Oh well, in a few months or years something new will come along and twitter will fade.
@Rollo potential question for the show:
You mentioned in the first episode that knowing what you now know, you would not remarry. My question: knowing what you now know, would you have married in the first place?
My guess: yes, with qualifications. I bet Niko would say no. Should be an interesting conversation.
I’d like you guys to address how being alpha/RP with women is a natural state since for a girl’s whole life leading up to dating, she has been alpha’d by her father (unless he’s a spineless beta). Think about it, girls’ whole lives they are pickup up, thrown into the air, twirled,grabbed/tickled/rough-housed by their dads. Their dads do the discipline. Their dads are the ones that usually don’t take shit like mother’s do. Father’s are literally giants to their young daughters who are half their size and height. Girls are used to this dynamic their whole lives, so it’s only… Read more »
+1 for Red Pill Awakening and creating/maintaining frame.
I have a question: What determines if the way you are handling a situation is “standing your ground and not taking shit from a girl” and “reacting in a way that makes you look butt hurt”? I feel like there are many times when I can’t decide if I should call a girl out for her behavior I don’t like or if I should let the situation slide because responding would make me look butt hurt.
Thanks for any input.
Please mansplain if a relationship where a man has good frame for LTR potential outweigh low notch count?
Is there a projected timeline for the next Man in Demand or RM talk. Will there be a possibility of one being in Northeast of the US?
Well if there is I can assure you no alcohol will be served there so you may want to reconsider going.
Interesting statistics(and visualization) of marriage in this day and age.
http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2016-who-marries-whom/
I would like to hear both of your observations on that.
I would like to hear your thoughts on how non-exclusivity puts strain on plates the longer you spin them until some of them go down.
@RolloTomassi
I read your material to continually strengthen my mental point of origin to make the best decisions in my personal and work life. Prefer to listen with a clear mind.
Apologies for the lag during the livestream, uncontrollable circumstances occurred. The video for the whole talk can be found here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TS9G7TpxLE
The podcast will be downloaded at archive.org at a later date.
Thanks for addressing my question at 1:00:00. You nailed it in the context of “commitment”. Would love to see a wider post on this: the conflict of commitment. What’s our “duty” as men to see things through vs…hypergamy. Is commitment “Blue Pill”? Great insights.
@walawala
http://therationalmale.com/2011/11/29/the-paradox-of-commitment/
Why is it that I can’t get the whole discussion? When I click on the link or search YouTube it’s a minute promo? Is there somewhere else I need to go to listen to the entire discussion?
I think I might have spoken too soon. Thanx Niko for providing the link.
As far as Rooshgate is concerned, the crucial fact that should not go unmentioned is that rape is probably the only criminal act lacking a legal definition. Technically speaking, having sex with a woman too drunk to give consent is indeed rape, but only if she decides afterwards that it was. Otherwise it’s just drunk sex; it doesn’t even fall into the category of unreported crime.
OT. YaReally drew my attention to this MGTOW channel. This video is a great example of the type of male indifference that women like to complain about:
hollenhund2, huh? I have a hard time buying that. Seems to me a lot of women would just ignore this guy, or at most want him to buy them something.
Kinda would want my 13 minutes back, too, except that I was working on a small problem on the laptop, and eye-flirting with a woman while listening to this guy drone on in my earbuds. So not a total loss…nice smile, girly…
@Rollo just finished listening to your podcast,while the wife listened in.
As expected she didn’t like your rooshgate ops but when the questions came in amazingly she agreed with your answers for the first time.Niko she said she would like to punch in the throat lol.
Thanks to both of you guys , very insightful as per usual.
James:-
Aar moi lover. But that has always been the difficult pancake.
Sort of like the difference between, … Murder, and ManSlaughter.
And then there’s Proof of Englishry to consider …
Oh to hell with it. Burn the women and drown the men.
Life’s too short.
well made an absolute rickets of that James, This is what I was going on about. Hello my name is James ,I was listening to a radio broadcast and the host was talking to a Female about the new legislation for females to be listed for the draft. The reason I am bring this up is because I would like to hear a discussion on how Females only demand equality when it benifits them and they run for hills when it doesn`t. The Female guess was vehemently explaining how women oppose this idea by saying they were not pyschically mentally… Read more »
Since so much time was spent on Roosh I’ll give my observations as someone who has spent most of his life with 2nd gen Islamics. One has to remember that as a second generation immigrant from a socially conservative culture he has an internal narrative that is an an ossified version of his parent’s parent’s culture. We’re talking about 1930s Levant here. That’s the dismay of second generation Islamics, they’ve been displaced from a middle age culture to the West without the intervening enculturation. They feel lost and experience an existential crisis as their idealised reality doesn’t match their observations.… Read more »
@stuffinbox
“@Rollo just finished listening to your podcast,while the wife…”
You and your wife would listen to this together? How do you guys pull this off? Do girls also let you in on their locker room discussions? I just dont get it. Do you read the manoshpere together and debate? Will she eventually see it as if people like Rollo are something akin to a teacher trying to show you how to be a man, something you know nothing about unless you are told? What are the implications to her after that?
Hi Rollo,
I was reviewing the VDay post particularly around why men shouldn’t buy laungeray for women as it equates to negotiated desire, anyway one thing that’s apparent in my experience is on GNO’s wife and girlfriends invest maximum effort in their appearance and I agree the Medium is in the message! But is there anything a guy can do about this without achieving marginal fame to inspire competition anxiety or do you think it is just a condition of long term mates?
Best Regards
Dan
@Cheupez hypercritical
After 40yrs of industrial noise,I turn the volume up just to hear it. If she wants to listen to man business an honest man has nothing to hide.
I already know what girls talk about and could care less.
Sometimes while reading the “manosphere” I have to LOL,if she wants to know why I tell her.I know better than to engage in debate with a woman we agree to disagree.
As she already believes that I am the best man of all this also doesn’t concern me.
Maybe this helps?
@Rollo – Please, Rollo explain more about how this thought experiment of Roosh’s is understandable and something you don’t find revolting? Let’s break it down: – Women are playing with consent to press female sexual agency and control male sexual agency. – So removing the laws which punish men for rape (on private property) will make women look at this issue of consent and their sexual agency differently? Horseshit. Ridiculous. It’s a nonsense and not a meaningful contribution to the dialog at all. Please, tell me, what does that construction add to the dialog – actually? How does it illustrate… Read more »
What’s more ridiculous Glenn, the reality of Yes Means Yes consent laws expanding into society on whole or the hypothetical suggestion that we legalize rape on private property as an illustrative comparison? The larger narrative here is that Roosh needs controversy now or he disappears into a manosphere that has outgrown him. Even the alt-right in all their trad-con White Knighting has disowned him. I sincerely doubt Roosh wrote his thought experiment with the intent of what’s developed around it now, but he’s more than happy to have any controversy stoked by it now. If it wasn’t this article it… Read more »
@stuffinbox
Ya. It helps. I guess I just don’t have the balls to that though.
@Johnny – Brilliant exegesis on the Islamic cultural angle and Roosh. One minor additional point. While Islam is blue pill as shit in real ways, the traditional male roles in some ways are also amplified. Being tough and assertive and aggressive are not shamed. Men are also seen as having to lead, and while female sexuality is so dominant, masculinity is also revered in Islamic societies. Great point about the Arianist 2.0 truth of Islam, the Koran is in large part essentially a rehash of the bible. It’s also possible Mohammed didn’t exist at all, but if he did, he… Read more »
Hey Rollo.
Sorry for posting it here, couldn’t find any other address for it.
Here is a video where a woman realizes that marriage rates are dropping, and tries to create a better beta.
https://youtu.be/0sYguTPLpHE
In an ambitious study published in 2013, Tim Clutton-Brock and Dieter Lukas of the University of Cambridge in the UK analysed over 2,500 mammal species to find out why some of them have become monogamous. They concluded that males will only accept monogamous pairings if they cannot dominate the females of their species.
http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160213-why-pairing-up-for-life-is-hardly-ever-a-good-idea
The more I watch these cringeworthy Roosh appearances on these daytime tv shows(Dr. Oz, and their equivalent in the Ukraine and Romania) the more I see Roosh becoming like the Westboro Baptist Church. They’re really not about their ‘God Hates Fags’ signs so much as their need for attention and provocation to the point where they want provocation so they can sue for money when people assault them. That’s their real scam nowadays-the lawsuits by provoking assault. I hope Roosh isn’t moving in that direction but now I wonder about him.
@scribblerg – why can’t you get it? Roosh’s point is that women tend to pretend that they didn’t make the decisions they made so that they can pretend that they didn’t have any responsibility for these decisions. The truth of this dynamic is everywhere, and spills into all kinds of spheres of influence, as outlined by way of the Feminine Imperative concept that Rollo has so well explicated. This dynamic has real world consequences for us all (men and women alike), outside of the sexual attraction sphere, but is especially prevalent within the sphere of sexual attraction, and the sphere… Read more »
@Rollo – Yeah, I do want to hear a scathing rebuke from you of his racism and misogyny and haven’t heard one yet. Questioning a few of his tweets doesn’t cut it. You may not choose to – fair enough, but when you spend so much energy on him and fail to do so don’t clutch your fucking pearls when I call you out on it. Even worse, to try and claim that what is being done with consent laws somehow justifies this? When you never come even close to this kind of hate yet deal with these subjects so… Read more »
Here you go Scrib, enjoy:
http://www.avoiceformen.com/men/mens-issues/rooshv-and-return-of-kings-sells-chemical-and-ideological-poison-time-to-take-out-the-trash/
@Rollo – I’m willing to move on from Roosh – you are the one focusing on him and glossing over that he’s okay with conflating “race realism” with the Red Pill and also engages in ACTUAL misogyny. It’s quite surprising that you and many readers here seem to think that strong opposition to such things is unnecessary. I’m not sure what kind of moral universe you folks live in, but it surely is not one that aligns with my values. But of course, you will whine about “anti-white” and “anti-christian” things non-stop. Either you are for comity in the secular,… Read more »
@Wild Man – Pull your head out of your ass and read what I’m actually writing, not what you make up in your head. Consider this. Why is Rollo able to cover the same issues as Roosh with much greater intellectual rigor and not become hate filled? He’s scathingly critical of women but it never comes off as hateful, whereas spending just a few minutes on Return of Kings will reveal a cesspool of hate. Also, why do you need to deflect my criticisms by claiming it’s “false-outrage”? My outrage is very fucking real – I won’t make common cause… Read more »
@scribblerg: This is what you wrote (and you have said this type of thing for awhile now here wrt Roosh): “Let’s break it down: – Women are playing with consent to press female sexual agency and control male sexual agency. – So removing the laws which punish men for rape (on private property) will make women look at this issue of consent and their sexual agency differently? Horseshit. Ridiculous. It’s a nonsense and not a meaningful contribution to the dialog at all. Please, tell me, what does that construction add to the dialog – actually? How does it illustrate female… Read more »
@dutchman
“Twitter. Not surprising at all, although I must say, I don’t understand why they think it’s a smart business decision to go FULL BORE on the SJW stuff.”
It makes sense if they believe that “harassment” and “abuse” is driving people away from Twitter. Lena Dunham recently said she wouldn’t be using Twitter until it was a “safe space,” etc.
Oh, wait, this was good too:
http://www.avoiceformen.com/sexual-politics/game/roosh-rage/
Lol, the graveyards are full of indispensible commenters. Rather than making this a blog about ritual denounciations of racism driven by SJWs in the comment section, I’d prefer it if Rollo just asked all the ones with a swollen sense of their own importance to kindly fuck off. (Me included, if that’s how it is.)
@scribblerg “The Muslim Brotherhood in particular has built a strong alliance with the left based on this rubric.” The Muslim Brotherhood is the right wing of Egyptian society. During the Arab Spring, the Egyptian left were labor and students. They were buying pizzas for protesters in Wisconsin. There is no “alliance” between the left and the Muslim brotherhood. Egypt is a U.S. client state. Its military, which is plugged into all the major industry of the country, relies on U.S. patronage. It’s like a miniature military industrial complex. Take a look at any country where the U.S. pulls the strings… Read more »
@Johnycomelately – Roosh and Islam-brainwash – now that is an angle I don’t think many have considered. Do you happen to know how devout Roosh’s parents, and extended family is? If what you say turns out to be true, then this will go down as one of the most funny and bizarre public events in recent memory. Western decadence al la Feminine Imperative meets Islam (at least 200 years, if not 500 years behind schedule, secularization-wise) = the renunciation of a cuckoo redpill perspective = win for Feminism and Islam!!? = cultural cucking writ-large taken to the next level? You… Read more »
@Scribbler: “Maybe if you spent Christmas with your brother and his black wife and half black niece you’d be as incensed as I am by racism.”
So, you are incensed by perceived attacks, even when they come in the negative form of not mounting an affirmative defense, against your kin?
@scribblerg
There are a lot of good criticisms of Roosh, but racism/misogyny isn’t one of them. I don’t are about Roosh’s racism. It’s irrelevant. As far as misogyny goes, I’m sure Roosh is a misogynist. I probably am one too. A lot of men have very good reason to feel that way about women. I’m surprised you need this explained to you. Somebody being a misogynist doesn’t invalidate their views.
@kfg
“So, you are incensed by perceived attacks, even when they come in the negative form of not mounting an affirmative defense, against your kin?”
That’s straight up SJW-style moral paternalism.
I don’t delve into race, politics or religion here specifically unless it directly relates to intersexual dynamics. That’s not to say I don’t hold personal views about all of the above, but my focus on this blog is to explore intersexual dynamics in as objective a fashion as I can, and sometimes I have to reserve my personal opinions for the sake of a larger understanding. Sometimes race, culture, politics and religion serve as experiences that inform intersexual relations, and conversely intersexual dynamism influences and manipulate race, culture, politics and religion. Of the 40+ women I’ve banged most were thin,… Read more »
@Rollo You know, I get why Roosh’s Circus O’ Horrors concerns you, but honestly I think spending much more time on his shit would be a waste and a distraction. @scrib Why are you so surprised to find participating in a community which espouses a view of intergender dynamics that resembles TradCon views would result in finding some common ground with fundies, white supremacists, and homophobes? Honestly I’m surprised we don’t hear more from those types here. Not saying I want to, I’m just surprised we don’t and I expected to run in to them from day one. So how… Read more »
@all
I Am a realist. Learned chicago school economics. Reject it. I reject most -isms.
Are we here to play thought police? F$ck that. Interrogating each other is idiotic.
I grew up similiarly to Rollo. Banged the whole colour spectrum.
Der Trump is good as is Bernie. ‘Bout effin time. Democracy-will of the people.
Quran? Classical arabic. No one gets it ‘ cept scholars: malleable. ISIS: wouldnt exist without U.S.
Race n religion: mere distractions. Red herrings.
@divided line n rollo: love how you guys think. fucking a.
p.s. injured arm. pecking at keyboard with one finger. peace
@scribblerg “Either you are opposed the hatred Roosh has created and surrounded himself with or you are not. It’s black or white.” Holy shit dude give it a rest. You’re overreacting to some words on paper and pulling the same “you’d all better take my side as I overreact like a drama queen to the issue or you’re against righteousness and goodness” shit SJWs and Feminists pull. Quit trying to bully Rollo around on a fucking thought experiment that you’re taking WAY too seriously and are WAY too invested in. You are the ONLY one flipping your shit because you… Read more »
You’re overreacting to some words on paper
Those words weren’t even printed.
@yareally: where can I purchase this hug box you speak of? I gave my rottie away (long story), the cat is sleeping and my ex-squeeze box is… well, an ex….. Seriously though, on a philosophical note I really appreciate what you do here. Sometimes I see a wallayatext and my brain seizes up…ahhh…tl;cantread….but I override it cause you’re giving gold. I know that you are doing it out of a generosity of spirit. props.you’re a pragmatic realist. not enough around. btw you gave the best squirt 101 i’ve ever read. good shit dude. as an older guy i really had… Read more »
@Ya – Your arguments are infantile and not even worth engaging in. I’m reacting to much more than Roosh’s article. You are on my turf now. I possess at least as much mastery of politics,history and political philosophy as you do on PUA so don’t dare to assume you can borrow your authority from PUA and sort me out on this topic. No dice, bunky. . The whole “tolerance of dissenting views” argument is completely childlike. Racism isn’t some unknown new idea we should explore and weigh the merits of. It’s evil. Period – it’s already been weighed, counte measured… Read more »
@Scribble, dude, you are off your meds. Your writing shows you’re well read, but you act like some of my college professors like you are the most well-read mofo in a universe of ignoramuses, and now you have ONE black relative through marriage after 50+ years of living a pasty white life and that gives you the right to be judge and jury of people’s racial motivations here – PEOPLE YOU’VE NEVER MET IN PERSON. You admit it yourself. You are fired up about this racial issue – but too much for your own good. You are becoming an intolerable… Read more »
http://gssq.blogspot.com/2011/08/rape-culture-vs-castration-culture.html
@kfg: thank you sir. excellent article. Gentlemen, we live in a ‘castration culture’. It is official. Emotional, psychological and,if we fail to advocate, physical. It is time to monitor media for ‘inciting hatred and/or violence’ against men. Prison rape jokes, bobbit references, etc, etc ad infinitum. It is verbal violence. Having pushed this envelope, history informs me it will be pushed further. We need to end it. Right now. We must watch and act. This is not satire or grandstanding. We need to set up a 501(c) or some relevant number in order to incorporate and advocate. Genital-based hatred is… Read more »
@scribblerg: I actually like reading you here because the controversy you constantly stir up is fun to watch (and participate in once in a while). You said: “Either you are for comity in the secular, egalitarian civic space our founders envisioned or you are not”. I wouldn’t present it in such a binary fashion, but otherwise you do allude to an important point. The egalitarian mindset does have a thing or 2 going for it. I think the egalitarian mindset is conditioned more-so by forebrain. It is a real thing too as constantly borne out by the comments here with… Read more »
Lol at glenn, relax brah, sometimes its ok to be wrong
scribblerg
February 14th, 2016 at 10:05 am
Great point about the Arianist 2.0 truth of Islam, the Koran is in large part essentially a rehash of the bible.
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Some Muslims think Christianity was a “patch” for Judaism, and Islam was a “patch” for Christianity; and that makes Islam the ultimate religious “operating system” cause there ain’t gonna be no more “patches”
Just sayin
“– what the heck is going on in the forebrain of women wrt the the egalitarian perspective, or egalitatrian-like perspectives?”
They loath the very idea of it in their hindbrain as an “unnatural act,” a sin against nature itself.
“That is fucking mysterious to me.”
You’re welcome.
http://thoughtcatalog.com/anne-gus/2014/07/its-time-we-sent-all-short-men-to-the-gas-chambers/
This a feminazi hate site. It advocates a “final solution” for men under 6′. Guys, could I get some outrage? Ok, I’ll settle for ‘fair and balanced’.
It’s pretty fair to say that Rollos’ thesis is solid. The ‘outrage brokers’ want crazy….but only a certain varietal sells! Crazed feminists are the audience suckers!
From what yareally informs me about the jennifer anniston stars in: 6 Million Under 6′
@scribblerg: You said: “Racism isn’t some unknown new idea we should explore and weigh the merits of. It’s evil. Period – it’s already been weighed, counte measured and found to be immoral.” Hey – if we all are racists hindbrain-wise, don’t you think it is a stretch to call it evil? It just is, you can’t expunge it, a person needs to understand it, with their other cognitive powers, and mitigate as appropriate in order to meet their higher level life goals. Scribblerg – this type of politically-correct-speak, is at the heart of the matter wrt how we have gone… Read more »
@hoellenhund2 “Those words weren’t even printed.” lol shit I’m officially old :'( @scribblerg “It’s quite surprising that you and many readers here seem to think that strong opposition to such things is unnecessary.” That’s because we aren’t little old ladies clutching our pearls at a troll that’s trolling people lol Should Rollo also make posts declaring that he’s against strangling unicorns because some idiot on the net declares the Red Pill is about strangling unicorns and you’re offended? Roosh’s article makes a valid point about how modern society doesn’t encourage girls to act responsibly and often encourages the opposite and… Read more »
Point to Thwack. Some of them also think that the Koran is superior because it is immutable, which is actually a theologically sound point of view, if not exactly factual.
@YaReally
Hey I have a question for you but I never know who’s watching. Can I e-mail you or leave my question in a tree somewhere?
http://thoughtcatalog.com/anne-gus/2014/07/its-time-we-sent-all-short-men-to-the-gas-chambers/
This a feminazi hate site. It advocates a “final solution” for men under 6′. Guys, could I get some outrage? Ok, I’ll settle for ‘fair and balanced’.
It’s pretty fair to say that Rollos’ thesis is solid. The ‘outrage brokers’ want crazy….but only a certain varietal sells! Crazed feminists are the audience suckers!
From what yareally informs me about the jennifer anniston stars in: 6 Million Under 6 Feet
@Contrarian: “Ok, I’ll settle for ‘fair and balanced’.”
They can try, but men under 6′ have most of the guns and skill in using them.
And not every man over 6′ is going to just automatically white knight for the bitch patrol.
@kfg – you said: “They (women) loath the very idea of it (the egalitarian mindset) in their hindbrain as an “unnatural act,” a sin against nature itself.” Yes – I think I see where you are going with this. I would tend to agree that perhaps normatively women do have a tendency for more of a hate-on for the egalitarian mindset, within their hindbrains, than men do. I think this means that normatively, for women, a stronger impetus for forebrain control is required to overcome this hindbrain routine. And furthermore I think the hierarchy of signalling within the forebrain of… Read more »
@Yollo Nope, I don’t do private convos or have an E-Mail address. Opens too many floodgates of guys all thinking their situation is special and unique and they need my help to fix it lol Nothing you ask me should be specific enough to get you in trouble. If you’re asking about “this one special girl from the HR department at the rocket science building I work at in California who shared an ice cream cone from the Ice Cream Eatery on Ice Cream Blvd with me Tuesday night and how do I get her?” your question is way too… Read more »
@yareally powerful metaphor. To me it was similiarish to the time i saw a colt born. Best I can describe it. Awe, shock, tad grossed out. Not easy to describe. Bear in mind some of us grew up extremely catholic. I went to sunday school and had a nun who had a picture of reagan under jesus. Give an old dude a break. My jaw dropped when a girl told me about being double penetrated. This was back when most had no internet. I had no frame of reference. The world was different. You grew up with it. We didnt.… Read more »
@Scribb, take Roosh out of the thought experiment of making rape legal on private property. Lets say I had written it or an ardent anti-feminist like Christina Hoff-Summers, someone whom you don’t think is a piece of shit or is basically neutral – does that change the interpretation of the experiment? Another ‘experiment’ that’s been suggested by Roosh, AVfM and others is encouraging secretly recording video of any and every sexual encounter a man has with a woman to ensure that any false rape claim has its circumstances documented. Technically this is a crime and an invasion of privacy, but… Read more »
Roosh’s article makes a valid point about how modern society doesn’t encourage girls to act responsibly and often encourages the opposite and that’s causing a lot of damage. That article reminded me of something that I’m not sure was pointed out during this controversy (I wasn’t following all this fake outrage). Until recently, the legal concept of marital rape didn’t exist anywhere in the West. No court would find any husband guilty of raping his wife. Guilty of domestic violence or assault, yes, but not rape. Today this is dismissed as an example of patriarchal barbarism, and it’s an idea… Read more »
@contrarian lol I’m just buggin ya. My buddies who are from other more reserved cultures/upbringings went through the same shit when they started learning about Red Pill stuff. Just a total mindfuck. This is a great site to fuck with your head lol: http://www.reddit.com/r/CuteModeSlutMode/ Reality is it’s gonna be a shock to the system at first, but the more time you spend around it (even through porn etc) the more desensitized you get. If it helps, it’s not pee lol It’s pretty much a thinner/watery version of the same stuff you get in your mouth when you go down on… Read more »
Scibblerg Either you are for comity in the secular, egalitarian civic space our founders envisioned or you are not Which founders are you referring to, here? The whole: “Either you are with me or you are against me!!!!!!!!!!”. reeks of butthurt. Plus the: “If you will not denounce what I order you denounce, when I order you to denounce it, then I will denounce YOU” tone is more appropriate to an SJW forum than anywhere men discuss things. Scribblerg, you are beginning to remind me of an aging, dying man I once knew who had become bitter about everything and… Read more »
@monsieur hund
It is history. The Cultural Marxists are making a new herstory, creating their Brave New World.
The narrative is: we were barbarians but now we’ve evolved.
progress.forward.nothing to see
rape culture. hate speech. tyranny is freedom. prepare for menocide
I’ll just leave this here.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UTchioiHM0U&itct=CBUQpDAYBCITCNK6wou–soCFY-2qgodAA4BHjIHcmVsYXRlZEj41riwy6eSuMsB
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g6BK5Q_Dblo&itct=CB0QpDAYACITCNK6wou–soCFY-2qgodAA4BHjIHcmVsYXRlZEj41riwy6eSuMsB
Yes means NO
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ_Nu8C59Uw
GETs IT
@YaReally
Silly me. Though your answer is just as useful. Thank you all the same.
@YaReally
Actually this might be better. How do you balance red pill life principles with FI women? Do you seduce every woman so you can hold frame? Or do you just let them do what they will around you, resting in that you always have the option to do what you will as well? Are you ever run out of town for having differing views on human sexuality? How do you blend in with people, say, in a work or social(Nerds/Squares) club?
@yareally:appreciate the advice. For safety purposes I will stick to a bed and get waterproof sheets. Gimme shit anytime! The reason I”m a prick on economics is cause of a profound experience I had with an economics prof who was a gold standard historian. He saw things over a long span. Saw chicago school weaknesses and showed me long cycles. I actually challenged him as to why I got a question wrong on a test. Me: ‘You can’t resell pizza!!’ Professor: Says who? Me: It violates health codes!?! Prof: That never stopped anyone. Me: Whose gonna eat pizza from a… Read more »
@Yollo “How do you balance red pill life principles with FI women?” “Do you seduce every woman so you can hold frame?” I don’t really get into situations where women would have an effect on my frame. If someone brings up a topic that I have controversial views on I’ll either let them have their conversation and keep a low profile during it, or tell them what they want to hear. They can’t possibly understand the frame I view the world through and everyone will favor their views over mine. I have no interest in getting into a discussion about… Read more »
@YaReally
Thank you Ra’s. I will be be mindful of my surroundings.
See, Glenn, when your bipolar meds are properly dosed, you are beginning to notice the reality as is and not as your psychopathic buddies here tell you it is. But you’re not there yet, so maybe continue to fudge around with the dosing for some time. Meanwhile, I’ll try to speed up your education. The one and only reason Rollo is so concerned about Roosh’s growing infamy is his little-bitch-like jealousy. If you stopped sucking his dick for more than a minute, and took a break from choking on his pseudo-intellectual uber-misogynist effluvia, you’d see that, because unlike the rest… Read more »
@hoellenhund2: this has been the legal norm for centuries in the most advanced societies in the world as well. What do we make of this? Were Western legislators and judges all barbarians until, say, 1980? Is that how we should now interpret the past? Yes. That’s what we call progress: admitting that people other than white males are human beings too, and not property to be used, and changing our laws accordingly. Same reason why we no longer think slavery and lynchings are good things, something that has not been quite obvious and reflected in our laws until early-to-middle of… Read more »
c’mon Doc, you’re just c&p’ing old comments now. I expect better from you.
@YaReally,
Advice and recommended homework for a soon-to-be divorced mid 30’s BP AFC that has trouble building initial attraction? Often been accused of being too analytical (very true) and coming off as asexual (frustrating as fuck!)
I’m fairly good looking, tall and in good shape. My inner game is shit though. And my kino is not smooth. When you talk about poaching chicks from bigger, better looking dudes, I’m that chump!
Other commenters welcome to chime in as well.
@DocG
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lanqq5KicD1qdr1wto1_500.jpg
You’re so jelly about Rollo getting attention you can’t even just ignore him and get on with your life. Here, have a sandwich:
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/125/830/Sandwich.jpg
Love me some irony.
Doc Gynocentric:
That Rollo spews his misogyny with a calm pretense of sciencyness and through semi-nonsensical intellectualizations, easily dismantled by any high school student, does not make him any less misogynist
But honey, you’ve never been able to dismantle any of the truths about women. Not even once. For all your bluenosed passive-aggressive Big Sibling posing, you’ve never dented any of the truths discussed here. Are you still on Xanax, or has your Gyn changed your post menopausal medications again in the hope of stabilizing you out of depression?
Hey guys, ali g is in da house!
Wait…what..Dr. G? Who’s he? Is she related to Dr Zeus?
I’ll take green eggs and.ham with a short stack honey. Dont worry I wont guzzle! I like Dr. Cluster B, she be sassy!
c’mon Doc, you’re just c&p’ing old comments now.
Gosh. Never seen any broad do that before…
@Betathrowaway Welcome. If your inner game is shit. Work on that first. It is OK to take a break from women to work on your self. And then re-emerge as a new different person. But that is hard. Your family and best friends will resent and resist you changing. But change you must. http://illimitablemen.com/2014/04/13/monk-mode/ Perhaps you should tell more about yourself and the problems you perceive in order for other commenters to react what you are and have been doing wrong. Be specific about certain things you have done and how they are not working for you. You have an… Read more »
@Sun lol @Betathrowaway “Advice and recommended homework for a soon-to-be divorced mid 30’s BP AFC that has trouble building initial attraction? Often been accused of being too analytical (very true) and coming off as asexual (frustrating as fuck!) I’m fairly good looking, tall and in good shape. My inner game is shit though. And my kino is not smooth. When you talk about poaching chicks from bigger, better looking dudes, I’m that chump! Other commenters welcome to chime in as well.” Did you miss the like 50 posts YaReally has made about the fundamentals you need to practice game? PIMP/SHIFT,… Read more »
betathrowaway, in addition to all the advice above, I’m telling you to take care of yourself. Don’t lift to “get girls”, lift for your health. Don’t stop eating crap to “get girls”, stop eating crap for your health.
We don’t know what kind of divorce you had, so we don’t know how much harm has been done to you, but for sure it ain’t zero.
Inner game starts with deciding you are a human being that doesn’t deserve to be treated like crap…
Yeah, Betathrowaway Despite what I said, do not rely too much about thinking rather than doing. Don’t get into the the theoretics of it. This shit about game has been shown to be practical and does work. Don’t get in your head, (but do study). Go out and do. Forge is right, just hit the basics and do. (the opposite of what you have been doing) “Just hit those basics and go out. When you go out and try to practice this shit, tell us what problems you’re running into and we can problem-solve from there.” You could do well… Read more »
Betathrowaway
You need to have your own mental point of origin and you need your own frame. But realize Frame is not power.
In your revealing yourself to us in order to “help” you in your mission: Please state your knowledge of how much red pill awareness and game implementation you have and how much of The Rational Male you have read up to this point and how long you have looked into the manosphere.
Do you have knowledge of what swallowing the red pill means? And does any of that scare you?
http://therationalmale.com/2014/11/14/mental-point-of-origin/
http://therationalmale.com/2011/10/12/frame/
@SJF
” But realize Frame is not power.”
wut? Frame is absolute power… you are either operating in your frame or someone else’s… always.