50 Shades of Twilight

Since 50 Shades of Grey is essentially the same plot formula as Twilight, feel free to insert the relevant protagonists’ names for Bella and Edward here.

I’ve had a lot of PMs asking me for some input regarding the runaway popularity of the B-Grade fan porn that is 50 Shade of Grey. Vox had a brief spot about it in relation to how men can’t win for losing in girl-world. Aunt Giggles had an interesting run down of its popularity, but predictably eels her way around the operative point of how semi-violent romance porn affirms the uglier truths of Game and hypergamy – not to mention avoiding the sticky aspect of ‘committed’ women fantasizing about it.

I honestly haven’t given the book too much headspace since it only reaffirms what the manosphere has been professing for over a decade now: in spite of all protestations of the opposite, women get off on dominance. Big shock, I know. It’s ironic that The Chateau should need to cite psych study upon psych study, ad infinitum for 6 years to reinforce a dynamic that women will now gleefully admit to only after a cheap, fanfiction sub-porn hack calls them blushingly out to the carpet on it.

If this book represents any significant turning point it will be its role in provably, viscerally, forcing women to acknowledge their own bullshit. I can hardly wait for the girl-world collective mental twistings in the wind – the desperate whir of millions of rationalization hamsters grasping for a plausible deniability or a freshly minted social convention (male shaming for bringing women to men’s porn mentality) that will excuse them from the guilt of an inconvenient truth. Perhaps the NAWALT trope, that one’s always the Swiss army knife for the feminine cause. Really anything that will put the Hypergamy Genie back in the bottle and keep the questioning Betas from getting too curious about feminine nature will do.

In the Bitter Taste of the Red Pill comments, esteemed colleague Dalrock had a timely and profound post that fits this porn-dominance formula perfectly:

These women don’t just want to build a better beta, they want to tame the alpha. In fact, I think the former is just another way they are trying to approach the latter. They want to take an inherrently unsafe activity and make it safe. They want to submit to a man without having to submit; they want a man who can tame their feral self. They want him to trip their danger signals. Even better if he is a stranger from a strange land.

They wan’t this all to happen without giving up their freedom; they want to play this out in the context of serial monogamy, so they can feel loved while also claiming their promiscuity is moral. They want to lose controll to a string of strangers who have all of the hallmarks of very dangerous men, and they want a promise that this will always end well.

They want to know that this will be safe, without it losing the excitement of it feeling unsafe. They are telling men to build a sort of serial monogamy amusement park where they can ride the roller coaster and experience the fear of falling or crashing, while knowing that just behind the scenes grown ups are actually in charge and are responsible for them safely feeling unsafe.

One more thing. As I mentioned above they don’t want to be hemmed in. So instead of building an actuall amusement park, they want roller coasters to spring up randomly in the same exact circumstances where the real danger they mimik would appear. They want to be driving their car on the freeway one instant, and the next experience the fear of careening out of controll the next. They want to impulsively jump off the edge of the Grand Canyon and have a parachute appear and deploy at the last minute. And all they ask is your guarantee that all of this will be safe.

Behold, the female porn dynamic perfected. Danger without danger, bad boy with a heart of gold, a guy who wont cheat, but could cheat,..

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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Mike C – “You do NOT need to talk through every single detail with your SO about these dynamics” Yeah, well, this comes from belief that we were supposed to be “equal” partners. By that I mean, I felt like I should tell her what’s going on with me and my thoughts, because my naive belief was that I owed it to her. Instead, what I’m figuring out is I should be thinking of her kinda like a kid at Disneyland. She doesn’t have any idea how the rides work, and she doesn’t want to know who the guy behind… Read more »

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Fuck me sideways… OK. I can come here and discuss this forever, but the truth is I need to knock this shit out against someone. It’s how I think through stuff. NONE of my friends is even close to knowing anything at all about this stuff. They are musicians and IT people. The one friend I *think* could handle this the best (and probably use the knowledge) is on marriage number 3, but so far this one is holding. How do I get this in front of him? Honestly, if I send him here first, I think he will be… Read more »

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I’m amd listening and reading this site with more and more understanding. I am kinda like Ted, slowly swallowing the RED pill, digesting and trying to make sense of it all. I am learning new things everyday, but sometimes I have to unplug to take it all in, otherwise it gets overwhealming. Anyway I enjoyed reading the post it has def been aN eye opening last 6 months since I started reading this awesome blog and just wanted to say thanks everyone for your excellent and well thought out posts. Now go grab your SO’s ass and give her a… Read more »

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Where do I start? Where do I start? I’m just gonna come out and say it here…I stumbled across this place…what’s it called manosphere? Yeah I’m gonna sound pathetic. Heck you’re all probably gonna think I’m too stupid to live. If this was Neanderthal age, i’d be the first to be crushed by a bloody massive mammoth. Why? Because I’ve come to a effing conclusion…Throughout school, I always wondered, why oh why were a certain select few reaping the benefits of mankind…going on dates, partying, drinking, going on dates, getting the chicks…conclusion most were alphas, jocks and modelly looking types,… Read more »

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Regarding this book “50 shades of grey” The women definitely want this kind of sex but just not with their mediocre husbands and boyfriends. Women dont want these kind of sexual dynamics with a regular guy. There is nothing most men can do. Men are already uninhibited about sex. They are already willing to have more sex, with more partners in more ways. There is nothing men can do because women set different limits, terms and boundaries with different men. Women will never *let* most men go there. Women will never submit themselves to most men. Most men are simply… Read more »

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Ted —— As an adult, my SO gets to decide if she wants my leadership or not. How can anyone with any bit of morality or even conscious simply decide for another adult what is best for them? —— An effective leader is one whom people DESIRE to follow. If people follow because they feel obligated, guilty or coereced, things won’t go well. It’s like the difference between busting ass for your boss at work because you like him and want him to look good for his boss…. or doing it because you hate the guy, but need a paycheck.… Read more »

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Twilight was pretty bad — 50 Shades of Grey was even worse. Seems that, yes, all you need to do is insert a shell of a woman and a “DILDO”, as this blog post puts it (http://www.corporateincolorado.com/?p=125) and you’ve got a bestseller.

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LOL

Wake up,Ted D

The Matrix has you . . .

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