A lot gets made of the Dark Triad or the Dark Side of Game where a skillful player can sadistically use his newly learned red-pill super powers for evil instead of for the greater good of mankind. Game-aware women – the ones who have been forcibly exhausted of all pretense of maintaing the illusion that Game is a lie – feel as though it’s owed to them, in their concession of Game’s reality, that Men should use Game to women’s benefit. Even to the last effort women still cling to the tools of a feminized acculturation;
“Yeah, OK, you got us, Game is really what women want, hypergamy is the law of womankind, but now it’s your responsibility that you use it for the better benefit of society by molding a new breed of improved Betas to accommodate fem-centric monogamy. You owe us our security for having admitted to the grand illusion that’s kept you in thrall for so long.”
It’s an indictment of Game-aware women, and sympathizing men, that they should feel a need to delineate some aspects of Game into good camps (pro woman, pro feminized monogamy) and bad camps (manipulative, polygynous, male-centered). Even in the admission of the truth that Game has enlightened Men of, the feminine imperative still seeks to categorize the application of Game to its own end. That Men might have some means of access to their own sexual strategy is too terrible a Threat; Game must be colored good or bad as it concerns the imperatives of women and a fem-centric societal norm.
As the default, socially correct and virtuous concern, women have an easier time of this. As Game becomes increasingly more difficult to deny or misdirect for the feminine, the natural next step in accepting it becomes qualifying its acceptable uses. While hypergamy is an ugly truth, the characterization of it becomes “just how women are” –an unfortunate legacy of their evolution. However for Men, the characterizations of the harsher aspects of Game in its rawest form (contingencies for hypergamy) are dubbed “the dark arts”.
Myth of the Dark Arts
According to common definition, the Dark Triad is a group of three personality traits: narcissism, Machiavellianism and psychopathy, all of which are interpersonally aversive. Depending upon context, that may be a convenient assessment of a sociopathic personality, but it is hardly an accurate assessment of Game as a whole. In its desperation to come to terms with a more widespread acceptance of Game, the feminine imperative had to make some effort to disuade the common man (see Beta) from embracing the means to his release from the feminine Matrix. Associating Game with Dark Triad personality traits makes this qualification process much easier, since the feminine imperative owns the definition authority of what is social and what is anti-social.
The problem then becomes one of defining what acceptable use of Game is social and anti-social. Predictably Game-accepting women will want to cast Game into terms that suit them individually and accommodating for their own personal conditions as well as the priorities of their particular phase of life. However, because of such diverse conditions, consequently there is a lot of disagreement amongst Game-accepting women about what contextually constitutes appropriate use, thus a pick-and-pull form of rationalization about aspects of Game gets thrown about in their internal debates.
For feminized men this is a very confusing debate. It’s difficult enough for them to accept that women love Jerks (despite being told the contrary for half their lives by women), but for the Game-accepting women they still think are ‘quality’ it’s a bitter pill to swallow when these women debate the aspects of acceptable, lovable Jerk-like qualities and the evil, user, manipulative, ‘dark art’ Jerk that only contextually misaligns with their present conditions and priorities. For both the plugged-in and the freshly unplugged this is an incongruency that they have a tough time reconciling against the ideals of moralism that a fem-centric society has unwittingly convinced them of.
While a broader understanding of hypergamy and Game make for useful tools for enlightened single men, the Game-accepting Beta plug-in will still see it strictly as a means to satisfying the female imperative – long-term provisional monogamy. Any deviation from this narrative, any guy using Game for personal gain, personal pleasure or to enact his own sexual strategy is guilty of crimes against (feminized) society. Since the societal Greater Good has been defined by the feminine imperative, anything counter to it is definitively evil, counterproductive, anti-social and manipulative sociopathy.
The Bitter Taste of the Red Pill
The truth will set you free, but it doesn’t make truth hurt any less, nor does it make truth any prettier, and it certainly doesn’t absolve you of the responsibilities that truth requires. One of the biggest obstacles guys face in unplugging is accepting the hard truths that Game forces upon them. Among these is bearing the burden of realizing what you’ve been conditioned to believe for so long were comfortable ideals and loving expectations are really liabilities. Call them lies if you want, but there’s a certain hopeless nihilism that accompanies categorizing what really amounts to a system that you are now cut away from. It is not that you’re hopeless, it’s that you lack the insight at this point to see that you can create hope in a new system – one in which you have more direct control over.
There are no “Dark Arts”, this is simply one last desperate effort of the feminine imperative to drag you back into the Matrix. There is only Game and the degree to which you accept it and are comfortable in using it in the context that YOU define. If that context is under the auspices of a mutually beneficial, mutually loving, mutually respecting LTR monogamy of YOUR choosing, know that it’s the fundaments of Game that are at the root of its success or failure. If that context is in terms of spinning multiple plates, liberating the affections of women from other men, and enjoying a love life based on your personal satisfactions, also understand that it lives and dies based on your understanding the fundaments of Game.
Just as Alpha is not inherently nobel or deplorable, Game is neither inherently good nor evil – the Devil is in the details and whomever’s defined context in which you use it. In the introduction section of the 48 Laws of Power, author Robert Greene explains the same about power. Power is neither good nor evil, it simply is, and your capacity to use power, your comfort in using it, doesn’t invalidate the principles of power. Likewise, your discomfort or inability to accept those principles does not excuse you from the consequence of having that power used upon you.
The unwritten, 49th Law of Power, is denying the utility of power itself, or demonizing its use both moralistically and socially. With the wide dispersion of Game theory this has been the reactionary tact of the feminine imperative; appeal to the deeply conditioned moral, ethical, honorable, virtuous ideals engrammatically planted in men by a fem-centric society, while redefining the acceptable use of the same Game the imperative demonizes for its own purposes.
Please define the feminine imperative and where and when it came from. Most of our moral code and, I think, monogamy stems from Christianity and the Church. The Church, at one point, was inherently male. I understand where the feminine imperative is coming from in recent history, but that recent history does not seem to stem from women, but from men.
Done,..
https://rationalmale.wordpress.com/2011/12/21/fem-centrism/
and done,..
https://rationalmale.wordpress.com/2011/12/20/the-feminine-reality/
Check my sidebar, I have an entire category dedicated to that topic.
So, you are writing about modern times and the society that the majority of us grew up in, not time immortal, correct?
time immemorial
Heh, I wondered that. Thanks.
Read all the way through this time:
https://rationalmale.wordpress.com/2011/12/20/the-feminine-reality/
Ok, but the two articles you linked to clash a bit. The first talks more about things in recent history, since the 1960’s. In that case specifically birth control, but that has had a large influence on today’s fem centrism. While that may have some merit I would argue that the perpetuation of this notion better serves the new feminine reality in promoting a need for recognition of victim status and thus a need for restitution. You talk in this article about the new feminine reality and since the 1960″s. In the next article you linked it seemed to be… Read more »
Disregard. I should have read all the comments before I posted this. I get it now.
I’d wonder if you had anyone particular in mind when you wrote this post, especially the first half, but it’s pretty easy to guess.
Another excellent post, and I think we can add a sixth stage to the five stages of feminist grief over game: Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance and… Subversion
I’ve read the 48 laws of power, the 50th law, and the art of seduction. Yet, even Robert Greene warns in the books that people who live these types of lives eventually become alone, isolated, killed and an outcast–especially if caught. He gave examples of the consequences of implementing each law and how MOST individuals condemn manipulation; nobody likes playing the fool. I think we’ve all played that part one time in our lives; didn’t feel good, did it? I understand that game has no good or evil; that the person implementing it dictates that. Yet, does a man truly… Read more »
Somewhat agree. Here’s the bottom line. Men have a primal drive for sex that 99.999% of women simply cannot grok. I’ve often half-joked the only women who “get it” are competitive bodybuilders who juice and pump themselves full of male hormones. If you’ve been in these parts long enough, you’ll see the desperation of guys who have been incel for years. Heck, I didn’t lose my virginity until 22. I remember 16-22 quite well. At the core, what we have is a power struggle. I think many men including myself want to decouple sex from monogamous relationships. If you meet… Read more »
I love your insight.
Just remember that I am not an advocate of marriage. I’ve seen my father get screwed over by the process. I’m just saying that you can be a successful bachelor without making pussy your number one priority or being a manipulator. Most naturals I’ve met don’t need to be decietful; they get women by being brutally honest.
Mostly agree. “Manipulate” is one of those tricky words that is very loaded so my first question to someone is always give me a crystal clear example of “manipulation”. That said, I don’t think deceit is necessary at all. I can think of examples where I either got sexual or sealed the deal very fast, and one FWB arrangement, and I never had to lie or mislead a single time. If you come in with really high value and flipe those right attraction switches, I think many women will get sexual quickly without you having to tell a single lie… Read more »
Sex confined to “committed monogamy” might actually work, so long as the following conditions were met: 1. Once you marry, you’re locked in and you can’t get out absent very specific conditions: Adultery. Real physical abuse. 2. Abolition of “no fault divorce”. No alimony under any circumstances. Overhauled and limited child support but only with accountability and the money actually used to support the child of a failed relationship/marriage. 3. Prosecution of those who make false claims of DV or rape. 4. Repeal of VAWA. 5. Serial monogamy? OK, but women have no grounds for complaining or sour grapes if… Read more »
Your comment caught my attention for multiple reasons. The main reason though is that you seem to have a ideas that I personally believe are absurd. You seem to have rejected the red pill in favor of a more comfortable and familiar reality. Your diatrabe has some strange conclusions that I will address. Paragraph 1:”I’ve read the 48 laws of power…” People who live what kind of lives? In paragraph 1 the implication is that implying the techniques listed within those text is inherently “wrong” and anyone practicing these “wrong” deeds will meet some sort of cosmic “justice”. Even if… Read more »
Oh man, there are quite a few errors here. Try to see past them. I was in a rush when typing this.
Rollo,
What happened to the Wife Whisperer post?
great post, as an man currently removing my self from the matrix, i can only describe the relaisations as soul destroying, the years of inculcated metal scehemas and indocrinated beliefs have a profound effect on a young man. I ve tried to speak to male friends on matters of dynamics in the SMP and tried to illuminate them about meat market economics but sadly most just cling to their ideological uptopian idela of the disney land fairy tail “soul mate” & “good girls” ideals. Any one hazard a guess at the percentage of men plugged into the matrix??
The great paradox for Game-aware women is that the alpha qualities they are hoping betas will acquire through Game are the very same qualities that make it less likely that those Game-enhanced betas will stay faithful to them. Hence the need to erect artificial taxonomies addressing the non-existent moral currency of Game. This post doesn’t reference Susan Walsh directly, but as far as I’m aware she’s the biggest culprit for this—the doyenne of this particular flavor of “man up”. You come down pretty hard on the culturally ingrained gynocentrism—and with good reason. But I think it necessary to point out… Read more »
The problem with this era is that gynocentrism ONLY values the feminine, and will readily reinterpret and reinvent its own system to affirm that valuation.
Yes—but to my mind this is more an indictment of the people wielding authority in this particular gynocentric civilization, rather than a mark against gynocentrism itself.
Patriarchal civilizations were gynocentric—but they balanced the all-encompassing gynocentric imperative with father-headed families and male-headed political entities. Modern civilizations aren’t necessarily any more gynocentric than patriarchies but with women and feminized men running the show, it sure feels like it.
I’ll have to disagree. Traditionally women have also been expected to earn value by signalling potential and willingness to become mothers and wives. Women who refused to do so had pretty much zero social status.
Females will not get Game to work in their favor to the extent they want until they make some major concessions, which they will not willingly make, as a whole.
It involves submission and deference. Until females come clean and offer this up, they have only discovered a fraction of the truth. Power is rarely surrendered willingly. As a society, we will only see the full revelation of what Game is about when the matriarchy crumbles entirely.
You cannot have everything the way you want it, girls.
Here’s a theory for you. What if the bar has been moved so high that the concession women are now giving by acknowledging the utility of game means little because these days it is almost necessary that a man practice “dark” game in order to bed attractive women? These days it is almost a requirement that you go nuclear on chicks. And it only makes sense- if most women are chasing a few men, you absolutely MUST conduct yourself in a manner that says “high value”, which usually means doing shit that women are repulsed by on the surface yet… Read more »
Well said, Rollo, concise, articulate, and insightful. I would follow-up by reminding you Gentlemen that the Red Pill is designed to give YOU the power over yourself, first and foremost. Go Wolf or Bull, married or single, Patriarch or Puerarch, the choice is yours, and any good Red Pill dude is going to respect you for it. But taking the Red Pill is an acknowledgement that femininity no longer has the power to dictate SHIT to you, and any use of Game for your benefit is just that: for YOUR benefit. Women have flaunted their control of sexuality right up… Read more »
There is but one response to this:
http://youtu.be/TAryFIuRxmQ
Puerarch? Dang, I guess you never stop learning. Brilliant post.
I think Rollo’s greatest contribution to the manosphere has been clarifying the concept of femcentrism and exposing that horrible woman at Slutting up Smart and her ilk for their gynocentric anti male agenda.
+10 internets to the guy who correctly identifies where today’s pic comes from. No google image searching now,..
Oh, come on, Rollo. Angel Heart (1987). Robert DeNiro as Louis Cypher.
Hey, I thought it was clever.
“Even your name’s a dime-store joke.”
Brilliant. Dark Triad. Selling one’s soul to the Devil in exchange for sexual success.
mmmmmm lisa bonet
Sorry I missed this challenge. I was going to comment separately on the photo alone. Rollo’s “greatest contribution to the manosphere” (supra) hasn’t been this or that philosophy. It has been his always spot-on visual cues at the top of every post. That is an unusual talent of underappreciated importance. Angel Heart is one of the great films of all time. Completely overlooked gem. Mickey Rourke at his zenith, which was once quite a height. Unbeatably atmospheric, first in mid-century NYC, then N’awlins. Fantastic climax that could have been gimmicky if it hadn’t been concealed so well. DeNiro was chewing… Read more »
To begin with I am pro-Game (basically in the direction of however it’s defined), and I’m not a beta/white-knight, and I don’t hate women (usually I like looking at and interacting with most women, as I now have self-mastery even stuck-up women don’t affect my inner calmness while in any situation). What I think this is saying (if I recall correctly from the other day when a post might have said it was not a fan of the Dark Triad) is that there is women out there (although I personally haven’t heard any) who say something like that Game IS… Read more »
These post might clear things up a bit for you:
https://rationalmale.wordpress.com/2011/11/08/could-a-man-have-written-this/
https://rationalmale.wordpress.com/2011/12/05/build-a-better-beta/
Wow, 20+ “I”s in a single post!
Upon initially seeing the title, it sounded as if it was a bitter taste to men new to Game. Then, on second thought it seemed that maybe it was saying that it was bitter to some of the women who happen to know about some Game (with their view of Game being the DT). I now have decided instead of Red Pill to (for ease of terms) just call it Game. When I first heard about Game probably because I was receptive to the liberation of it, it was not bitter, but it was more of a surprise and a… Read more »
From Build a Better Beta
The overarching point is to create a more acceptable man for a female defined goal, NOT to truly empower any man
If men became truly empowered, if our society became male centric, what would society look like?
Read history. Any era before 20th century and/or outside the feminized west will demonstrate “what … society [would] look like.” The failure to teach our kids history is now biting us in the ass. We are all grown up now and saddled with completely impoverished imaginations. By the way, “empowered” is a passive nancyboy term. And “-centric” is a queer suffix for sniffling, sunken-chested, untenured post-docs in ____ Studies (you fill in the Victim Group). Men have only lost power nominally and superficially — which has been quite devastating to the culture, no doubt, but it hasn’t been a rout,… Read more »
I don’t think that history portrays a truly male society, but rather both male and female. The balance that is so blatantly missing today. I was wondering what a society would look like balanced the opposite from what it is today.
No, I don’t think it can be a rout either. The pendulum will swing back in the other direction, I guess I just wonder how far. Burkahs do not look very comfortable.
BTW, good to see you. Been awhile.
The feminine imperative – if I got it right – is basically serial monogamy with alpha males, which may or may not be accompanied by cuckoldry of beta males, where relationships are started and ended only on women’s terms, plus pregnancies are also started and ended only on women’s terms. Women have all the rights and none of the responsibility. The masculine imperative is basically anything that satisfies the male drive for a) sexual variety b) paternal certainty (for those who want to become fathers and husbands in the first place) with minimal cost and risk. This can happen in… Read more »
From Build a Better Beta The overarching point is to create a more acceptable man for a female defined goal, NOT to truly empower any man If men became truly empowered, if our society became male centric, what would society look like? I’m actually in agreement that some aspect of serving the feminine imperative is necessary to modern society. On some level, ALL of modern society, the fact that you can flip a switch and have lights, the fact that you can travel 1000 miles in 24 hours by car, the fact that you can sit in a 67 degree… Read more »
‘Committed monogamy’ isn’t the feminine imperative. The feminine imperative, in my estimate, is serial monogamy where female commitment is completely optional i.e. only women decide when relationships begin and end.
This is awesome man. The beginning gasps of a feminine system that is beginning to see its own demise, doing its best to spin the subject. Way to call them out. Insightful stuff.
if you could just subtract out the sense of entitlement that seems to be pervasive I agree with you, the whole post. I think the quoted part above drives much of this home. I never thought about it before I read Rollo’s article today, but I agree with him. We do live in an extremely fem-centric society (which is obvious) and really always have (Which I was confused about, but now makes sense). It is necessary for the family. However, what at one time hovered around 49% male and 51% female society is now skewed so far female that no… Read more »
Thanks Sting for getting it, and Mike for clearly explaining it. The thing is, lots of men don’t mind sacrificing for women, as we are born with an innate need to provide and protect. I can deal without being thanked, and I can handle not even being acknowledged. But when it crosses over into ridicule, is when things go bad. That’s the point that men will simply withdraw. Every time a woman utters a phrase like “kitchen bitch” and gets this contempt expressed in mainstream media, imagine 10 men getting their testicles and going dark on all women. Go read… Read more »
Women can’t see the abstract like you all can. We can’t appreciate the guy who invented and installed the air conditioning and who put the breaks in our cars. If we didn’t see it happen, it is just a machine that works for us when we need it. We can however, sincerely thank the man that comese to fix the air and the man who repairs our cars. Christ, how many even do that any more? What’s more we can CERTAINLY profusely thank our husbands and our men for what they do for us everyday. Even the women who work… Read more »
Stingray wrote: Cooking, cleaning, doting, these are not difficult things. When done right, they can be incredibly enjoyable. I present to you the Gospel according to Woman, or The Bible, Distaff Translation. Written by a feminist-apostate lawyer-professor who struggled half her life to deny her nature and finally found peace in submitting to it. And, you have proclaimed some tremendous wisdom in the following: Women can’t see the abstract like you all can. We can’t appreciate the guy who invented and installed the air conditioning and who put the br[ake]s in our cars. If we didn’t see it happen, it… Read more »
Thanks for the 2 links Rollo. I just went and read those.
The existence of powerful men who can do whatever they want and get away with it drives the girly-world overmind batshit.
But one on one with any member of girly world, well… they don’t hold the line too well do they?
Actions over words. Don’t Aunt Giggles and her ilk talk you out of being the man you want to be
Right on, Mikec. I can tell you from firsthand experience that it isn’t about being a disposable cog in the machine, it is about playing that role without the potential for a payoff in the form of a loving, faithful and feminine wife. I just turned 40 and have proven to myself that I can get pussy, but when I start thinking about settling down and having a family reality slaps me in the face and I am forced to realize that even if I do find a girl who hasn’t been fully corrupted the deck is still stacked against… Read more »
Legal and open prostitution is the answer.
never forget that the church and their current heirs the BANKS make a LOT OF MONEY from institutions that shackle men and put a toll tax on their access to the vagina.
women are the beneficiary pawns in this endeavor.
The Dark vs. Light angle of Game is nonexistent. What one man chooses to do with this knowledge is up to the individual. If he wants to bed numerous women or maintain and “upgrade” his LTR with his woman, the choice is all his. I’ve been studying The Crimson Arts for six years now and what I love about it the most is that Game improves all aspects of a man’s life, not just his sex life. Women should never be priority #1. Inner Game must be developed first, and everything externally comes second. There is one aspect of learning… Read more »
The delineation of Alpha to Omega falls along the lines of natural distribution.
2% Psychopaths
13% Alphas / Naturals
68% Betas
13% Omegas
2% Asexuals
What are the 2% unaccounted for? Hermaphrodites? Zoophiles? Chaz Bono?
Or an oversight?
Anomalies/Outliers
@Sam “I would guess that 93% of all men are Betas. 5% represent the Naturals, with the following 2% being red pill men” I know its a widespread indoctrination but do you really think that the numbers are that high?? most men i know have never heard of female hypergamy let alone the rest, after trying to speak about it to friends it just becomes a futile exercise and these are all smart men,who work out and live active lives, thet all come fully equipped with degree’s in various academic disciplines. Any chance we could get the central statistics office… Read more »
I think there is another side to the same coin. These women don’t just want to build a better beta, they want to tame the alpha. In fact, I think the former is just another way they are trying to approach the latter. They want to take an inherrently unsafe activity and make it safe. They want to submit to a man without having to submit; they want a man who can tame their feral self. They want him to trip their danger signals. Even better if he is a stranger from a strange land. They wan’t this all to… Read more »
Excellent.
Awesome post!
perhaps if women are chronically this stupid they should be put back into enslavement (their societal place for millenia) where they are no longer a danger to themselves or others!
“Women want fried ice.” – old Arab proverb
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You might already be aware, but the term “game theory”, as used in the above post already has an established definition different from what you no doubt meant (it’s the study of strategic decision making). The meaning you intend is clear enough from the context, but if used elsewhere it could confuse those now to this topic and unfamiliar with game. Given that the language you have used above is so precise I thought it might be worth pointing this out to you just in case you didn’t realize this double meaning.
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Rollo, I agree with the fact that Game is amoral. But if every single man would act as an complete alpha, society would become a chaos (no rules, no authority, no order, less efficiency). How does all this conciliate?
“It’s an indictment of Game-aware women, and sympathizing men, that they should feel a need to delineate some aspects of Game into good camps (pro woman, pro feminized monogamy) and bad camps (manipulative, polygynous, male-centered).” These people are not “pro-woman” they are pro-children. If you are unmarried without kids then spinning plates is fine as long as all parties involved are told the honest truth. But once you have kids, within wedlock or without, you have to completely revamp your life and mold it around the child that you CHOSE to have. And every man who does not have a… Read more »
Your feminine-conditioned devotion to a feminine-primary social frame is causing you to miss the point of what I’m getting at here.
The biological motivations for women to have children IS pro-woman by default. What serves children, necessarily serves children by association.
The larger point that you’re blinded to is that Game (even in an LTR purview) has to be sanitized and repurposed by those subscribing to the feminine social narrative to fit into that narrative. Thus any aspect of Game that agrees with that frame is ‘good’ and any aspect that conflicts with it is ‘bad’.
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Somebody please rephrase the following abstract for me. I spent much time on it, asked several teachers for help but still can’t get your idea.
It’s difficult enough for them to accept that women love Jerks (despite being told the contrary for half their lives by women), but for the Game-accepting women they still think are ‘quality’ it’s a bitter pill to swallow when these women debate the aspects of acceptable, lovable Jerk-like qualities and the evil, user, manipulative, ‘dark art’ Jerk that only contextually misaligns with their present conditions and priorities.
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I felt pretty suprised after reading this post, I never knew that men were afraid of women and femininity this much. “Feminine matrix”, do you guys really believe that paranoid science fiction? If you insist on a movie analogy, I prefer Star Wars. I think all Players and PUAs are more like Dart Waders, who can’t forget an Alpha Female or “Padme”. After loosing their Padme, they become like a Dart Wader, who desperately clings to the “Game” or a heavy Mask to protect themselves from the evils and perils of womanhood and that’s why they hate the feminists that… Read more »
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@Ashley: [girls] won’t be willing to spend quality time with you because most of them are not that into the guys who wanted to sleep them on the first night.
Girls will sleep with you but they really don’t want to spend “quality time” with you? Cuz girls just want to pump and dump? Da players are missing out by ‘just’ getting the sex and not the “quality time.”
Your serious?
“Please define the feminine imperative and where and when it came from.”
The feminine imperative is: “acquire resources, have offspring”, or more succinctly: “breed”.
It came from biology.
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I guess the absolute importance of the family to human society is too obvious a thing to mention here? What with all the sophisticated ninnery about mating strategies and the like. If family is just fem-centric brainwashing, then . . . .? Male headship just a ruse? Kingship an illusion? Priesthood a sham? Patriarchy just a hoax? Being a *son* just ephemera? I guess seeing fem-centrism behind *every* bush (as opposed to behind most) reaches a point of ridiculousness.
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Is there anything written about how to live your life as a man with the reality of hypergamy? I see a lot written about the way it is, but I don’t see anything about how to now deal with it.
The only thing I have come up with is just don’t get married.
By the way, I’m not talking about this blog not having anything about that, I’m talking about everywhere.
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