The Threat

Nothing is more threatening yet simultaneously attractive to a woman than a man who is aware of his own value to women.

My use of the word “threat” here isn’t to imply malice. I’m sure more simplistic associations with violence or conflict is the natural one, but a “threat” is a challenge – how one deals with it is what’s at issue. As I stated in the Three Strikes thread,

Women’s sexual strategy is very schizophrenic – ideally women want a Man that other women want to fuck, but in order to assess his sexual market value to other women he’s got to have exercisable options for her to compete against, or at least display indirect social proof to that effect. So, she needs to limit his options while simultaneously determining he has those options.

This internal conflict between a want for security and provisioning, and a need for the ‘gina tingles that only the excitement indignation, drama and Alpha dominance can stimulate is the fundamental root for women’s shit tests. From Plate Theory VI:

Essentially a shit test is used by women to determine one, or a combination of these factors:

a.) Confidence – first and foremost
b.) Options – is this guy really into me because I’m ‘special’ or am I his only option?
c.) Security – is this guy capable of providing me with long term security?

Women’s shit testing is a psychologically evolved, hard-wired survival mechanism. Women will shit test men as autonomously and subconsciously as a men will stare at a woman’s big boobs. They cannot help it, and often enough, just like men staring at a nice rack or a great ass, even when they’re aware of doing it they’ll still do it. Men want to verify sexual availability to the same degree women want to verify a masculine dominance / confidence.

For a woman, to encounter a man with a healthy awareness of his own value to women, this constitutes a threat. Here is a man for whom’s attention women will demonstrably compete for, AND he knows this. This is the most basic affront to the feminine imperative; to be unplugged, of high SMP value and to derive confidence from it. Therefore, in order to actualize her own sexual strategy, his self-confidence MUST be put into self-doubt, because if such a man were to use this knowledge to his own benefit he may not select her from a pool of better prospective women. Thus she must ask “Are you really sure of yourself? You think you’re so great? Maybe you’re just egotist? Don’t tempt fate.”

In this example we can see the conflict inherent in women’s sexual strategy; she wants the Alpha dominance of a confident Man, but not so confident that he can exercise his options with other women well enough to make an accurate estimation of her own SMV.

Ambiguity in men’s assessment of a woman’s true sexual market value is the primary tool of the feminine imperative.

The same characteristics that give him his confidence and acknowledged sense of worth are exactly the same things that women want to be associated with. Even the most controlling, domineering wife still wants to tell her friends that the AFC she married is a “real Man”, and even after privately berating him, will defend him as such because anything less is a reflection on her own self-image. She wants to be with a Man that other men want to be, and other women want to fuck, because it confirms for her that she’s of an equal or higher value to attract such a Man.

Women don’t want a man to cheat, but they love a Man who could cheat.

That is the threat and the attraction. Women want a Man that has confidence in his own value; that’s sexy, but the more he self-realizes this the greater the anxiety is that she’ll be found wanting as he better understands his options. So it becomes necessary to develop social contrivances that are standardized across the feminine gender that limit the full recognition of masculine self-value. Thus masculinity is ridiculed, men become characterized as slaves to their sexuality, and masculinity becomes doubted by virtue of itself. In a global sense, the feminine imperative relies on the same ambiguity women will individually employ to confuse the efforts of men to assess their true SMV. By means of social conventions, psychologically force him to doubt his own SMV and women become the arbiters of it.

Race to Awareness

Because of women’s relatively short window of peak sexual viability it is imperative that men be as unaware of their slower, but progressively increasing SMV for as long as possible in order for them to achieve the prime directive of female hypergamy; realize the best genetic options and the best provisioning options she has the capacity to attract in that peak window. If Men become aware of their SMV before a woman can consolidate on her options with monogamous commitment her sexual strategy is defeated.

The mistake (and the binary retort) is to think this need for contrivances was concocted in whole as some grand sisterhood conspiracy. This just proves an ignorance of social constructs. For a social contrivance to be such, it necessitates being repeated by society WITHOUT a formal conception – meaning we learn the contrivance from seeing it, internalizing it and repeating it ourselves without forethought. The best social contrivances are inconspicuous and rarely questioned because they’ve been learned without having been formally taught. This is why I think encouraging men NOT to bother trying to understand women is in itself a social convention. Don’t look at that man behind the curtain, just accept it for what it is, enjoy the show, you’re better off that way, the Mighty Oz has spoken.

This is the threat that Game represents to the feminine imperative. Widely shared, objective assessments of Men’s SMV and how it develops is the antithesis of the female sexual strategy. Women’s greatest fear is that they could become the ‘selected’ instead of the ‘selectors’.

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A.B. Dada
12 years ago

Good topic — but in recent years’ experiences, maybe just 2 years, there’s a warning to be shared: you absolutely can price yourself out of a woman’s dating pool. When I started seeing my current #1, she was pretty average but really high interest towards me. Coming down from dating a solid 9 (who was batshit insane and got worse on the pill), it was nice to have a gal who had a job, didn’t go out at all, had no addictions, and just adored being in my presence, even if she was mostly average overall, other than in her… Read more »

(r)Evoluzione
(r)Evoluzione
12 years ago
Reply to  A.B. Dada

AB, I cosign with all of this. My #1 is an entertainer, not hot by objective standards, but has a great body, is fantastically fit, sexual, loving, giving, and low-maintenance. The high-maintenance hotties are pain in the ass, with the constant shit testing and rather unpalatable personalities. There may be 10 in 1000 that are both hot and low maintenance, those country girls who haven’t yet figured out that they’re uberhot, but they will quickly sour in an urban environment if they’re the least bit extroverted. I’m holding out for that 1 in 100 chance, and I believe confidence and… Read more »

King A's Bastard Son
King A's Bastard Son
12 years ago
Reply to  A.B. Dada

I knew if I waited long enough A.B. Dada would be back to posting the first comment.

He must be back from Vegas…or Macau….or wherever the hell he’s been.

One question though…did he take his purse and Beretta?

And did he “endow” any writers while he was away?

dc1k
dc1k
12 years ago

Great post Rollo I think you’re inching closer to the real topic of interest for myself and many others. After a failed marriage I took the medicine, adopted game and have lived a great life for several years of fine women, wine and song. However, I’ve now found a woman that I love and with whom am interested yet again in more kids (have two already), increasing my reproductive success. She is a legit 8.5-9, in her prime (26) and high status. She loves me to death. The only thing I could do is fuck it up by Beta’ing up… Read more »

Stu
Stu
12 years ago
Reply to  dc1k

+1

i.e. LTR game.

Hero
Hero
12 years ago
Reply to  Stu

Agreed. Rollo, drop some knowledge on LTR/married game.

We are all benefitting from your writings. Excellent, thought provoking stuff. Thank you.

Mike C
Mike C
12 years ago
Reply to  dc1k

Second that request. The longer you are with one woman, how do you effectively convey you are a guy with options?

caRIOca
caRIOca
12 years ago

Undisclosed social contrivances is a very deep topic that should be explored. I´m sure there are dozens of them that we follow without noticing. Examples out of the intergender relations:

-People get upset when you don´t eat sugar or drink alcohol with them.
-People will be angry with you if you leave early to have 8 hours of sleep.

Rollo, you are a philosopher, your job is to bring light to unnoticed things. Help us to be free from the chains of hidden neolithic social contrivances.

Rollo Tomassi
Rollo Tomassi
12 years ago
Reply to  caRIOca

Your wish has been granted:
https://rationalmale.wordpress.com/2011/09/09/operative-social-conventions/

Heheh,..feel free to peruse the Social Conventions category from my blog’s sidebar.

(r)Evoluzione
(r)Evoluzione
12 years ago
Reply to  caRIOca

“-People get upset when you don´t eat sugar or drink alcohol with them. -People will be angry with you if you leave early to have 8 hours of sleep.” Tease them about becoming weak, old, tired, fatass diabetics. Be amused at their discomfort when you refuse. Aloof mastery is a big DHV. I have learned to enjoy the hell out of teasing people about their poor lifestyle habits. It’s so much fun to throw monkeywrenches into people’s contrived social conventions. It takes practice and a big dose of Don’t Give a Fuck if it doesn’t go your way. But when… Read more »

walawala
walawala
12 years ago
Reply to  (r)Evoluzione

It’s hard to go against “social conventions” and be your own person—or break out of the easy comfort of AFC where you’re feeling “lucky” to get the attention of some woman. Game takes effort and the biggest set-backs are the ones of our own making—settling. You game a hottie and find success and then suddenly you go back to where you were and then lose the upper hand and she leaves. I just watched “Moneyball” that film about how Bill Beane turned baseball upside down by defying the status quo. There’s a great line in there I’m paraphrasing where near… Read more »

lovelost
lovelost
12 years ago

I think eventually when Game becomes pervasive, men will be the selectors, even the beta guys. It’s taking time, all good things takes time to mature, game will eventually become main stream. I looking forward to that day.

Dan
Dan
12 years ago

Woman (“her test”), Man (blank stare at her, he remains calm/cool/collected). Woman (“another test”), Man (no anger because he is unaffected by her tests, unreactive/ignores her tests, maybe a slight smile, maybe a slight laugh, looks at her thinking “I know you want me,” rubs her shoulder, strokes her hair, kisses her). Tests over. Man won (therefore, they both win).

Good Luck Chuck
Good Luck Chuck
12 years ago

A little off topic but I want to point out something regarding infidelity. Regardless of feminist protestations to the contrary, female infidelity is far WORSE than society would have us believe, and male infidelity isn’t nearly as bad as it is made it out to be. The feminine imperative would have you believe that the act of cheating on a woman is a heinous, unforgivable act, but the facts do not bear this out. “If you are going to cheat on me, just make sure I don’t find about it”. I have lost count of the number of women who… Read more »

redborealis
12 years ago

It seemed like you came close to saying that feminism itself is a kind of shit test on a massive scale. Or perhaps it’s nothing more than a unconscious attempt to ‘test’ the limits of male tolerance.

Men need to realize that women are like all other creatures, they’re inherently unsatisfied with their lot in life by default, and they won’t settle for an inch if a mile’s in view. Do you think they’ll stop at a mile if you’ve let them get that far?

Good Luck Chuck
Good Luck Chuck
12 years ago
Reply to  redborealis

Women aren’t always testing, but they are ALWAYS judging. It doesn’t matter if feminism is test or not, the end result is that men who react to it the right way are rewarded and men who react to it the wrong way are severely punished. No different than your date observing how you react toward another person who disrespects you in front of her- she had nothing to do with the “test” but you better believe she is making an assessment based upon your reaction.

Southern Man
12 years ago

The most valuable lesson I gained from game after fifty years of betadom was to recognize that I had value. This is tough when you’re with a woman who tears down everything you do as inconsequential and rejects everything you desire as unimportant. That recognition of value brings confidence; that confidence brings a new attitude in everything that I do.

walawala
walawala
12 years ago
Reply to  Southern Man

It seems like a surprise when you get a positive reaction/respect/success by employing game techniques…you feel “lucky”.

Success builds confidence. The hardest thing is once you’ve had a string of success dealing with a set-back. There is a tendency to go back to that AFC frame and think it’s who you are.

But it’s not “lucky” at all. It’s simply a matter of reframing and refusing to accept what you don’t want.

Glyn
Glyn
12 years ago

Sweet…:-)

Mike C
Mike C
12 years ago

Stellar post. One of your best and most useful for a guy who really needs to internalize a different mindset. Alot of different things I’d like to expand on here, but just one for now. I’m a stock guy, and one idea of investing is to buy undervalued stocks the market doesn’t recognize. Essentially, one aspect of the feminine imperative at the high level is to basically convince guys to UNDERVALUE themselves in the SMP. It plays to the whole frame of “you are a lucky guy to have her”. How often do you hear the opposite? There are powerful… Read more »

derthal
derthal
12 years ago

Feminine imperatives are so strong rooted in society that even in magazines directed to especially to men like “men’s health” are deeply contaminated by those imperatives. I’v just read in Polish edition “men’s health” an article titled “5 tips on modern woman”. Main ideas included in article: – do not touch her (hands off) at the first date, she must to know you better at first – do not go to the clubs a few times a week because you do not increase you chances to meet fine woman, instead be friend with women and you have better chance to… Read more »

walawala
walawala
12 years ago

For the last 2 months a 26 year old I gamed and banged had been chasing me. I went on a long-planned vacation with my ex-gf as we’d planned it before we broke up. I posted a few photos of us hanging out. New girl got clearly upset, asked if I was traveling with my ex: Me: “Lots of people out here…” Her a few days later: Are you dating lots of Latina girls out there? Me: TONS. When I got back she was very cool to the point where she was blanking me at a party. When I figured… Read more »

driveallnight
driveallnight
12 years ago
Reply to  walawala

Her: Are you dating lots of Latina girls out there?

Me: TONS.

*****

Personally, I won’t give a straight answer to a question like that. Much better to let the hamster run….

Her: Are you dating lots of Latina girls out there?

Me: Heh. You wearing underwear right now?

bmwk1200s
bmwk1200s
12 years ago
Reply to  driveallnight

Her: Are you dating lots of Latina girls out there?
You: I am being circled.

Aloof…keep em guessing.

derthal
derthal
12 years ago

Unplugging from The Matrix:
http://tinyurl.com/7xh39tr

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LMFAO !
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Rollo you got a post on shit test and what not? I’m rusty and I need to brush up something fierce

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Reblogged this on Fear Nothing.

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Mac
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“Women’s greatest fear is that they could become the ‘selected’ instead of the ‘selectors’.”

So true!

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I know this is an old thread but I had to share this. I am a long term sexual loser. I married what I married, been with her over 18 years. I have acted pretty much beta my whole marriage, and life. I read this article recently. By coincidence my wife tried picking a fight(shit-test) shortly thereafter. Using my newly-found knowledge of shit tests, I could not stop laughing at her. Even when she brought up divorce, I could not stop chuckling confidently. I told her if she wanted a divorce it would not be a problem. Then she asked… Read more »

tempus.fugit
tempus.fugit
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the threat is real. no need to discuss this further. but one part mentioned amongst the others is a fiction: shit testing isn’t entirely solely present due to hard-wired nature. this is not the whole truth. it is selective; it ignores that women have no intuition, have no real knowledge of reality, and can only ever know what we tell them. game them, tell them in the language of toddlers that you’re awesome, and they believe it. how can they not? it’s all they know. it’s all those who don’t pay and avoid responsibility can ever know. those who don’t… Read more »

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Age 11… Age 11 alpha is a mindset

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“Therefore, in order to actualize her own sexual strategy, his self-confidence MUST be put into self-doubt, because if such a man were to use this knowledge to his own benefit he may not select her from a pool of better prospective women. Thus she must ask “Are you really sure of yourself? You think you’re so great? Maybe you’re just egotist? Don’t tempt fate.”” Truth. I’ve been reading this blog a year now and not commenting but this here perfectly describes the script one girl has been running on me, talking down at me every chance she gets, acting cold… Read more »

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thomasso75
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Great! Im through first year posts. I have read many random posts on this site and all the new. Read Preventive Medicine. And looking to read the first RM book too. Got them through the local library which ordered it from outside of my country. Looking to buy both on amazon and place them on my book shelf for anyone to see.
Will start on Best Of RM second year now.

Rollo, you got yourself another fan!

thomasso75
7 years ago
Reply to  Rollo Tomassi

We have an awsome library system here in Denmark. I can go to a web database and search for books and if no library within the country borders have that particular book, they will try and get it from libraries outside of the country. Love it!

I guess I’m the guy you are mentioning in the latest podcast with Nico 🙂

eghost247
7 years ago

Reblogged this on eghost247.

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Omega Man
Omega Man
6 years ago

“Women’s greatest fear is that they could become the ‘selected’ instead of the ‘selectors’.” this statement is gold… PURE gold. it easily conveys the message that you have options and she knows that you do. men need to evaluate their thoughts, actions, body language, demeanor, and even tone of voice and realign them all based on that statement, and by doing so, the majority of ‘game’ becomes easy to lay down. as long as women (or your woman) feels that she’s selected you and that YOU are the lucky one, you’re losing. and if you’re running around with a “honey-do”… Read more »

bob
bob
6 years ago

Mind = blown…

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Qway
Qway
3 years ago

Bit late to the party, but I’ve discovered this website recently and it’s a gold mine, especially this article. Had a woman who started being more and more interested in me, and I entertained it for a while, without committing to anything. As my confidence kept growing over the better part of a year, I saw a slight shift in the way she would behave, and she would throw an occasional remark at how “big of an ego I had”, which was surprising to me. Never in my life had I had anyone tell me that, so I started pondering… Read more »

Justin
Justin
2 years ago

Jist Mind Blowing Wisdom. Thank you Rollo

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