Women in Love

Men believe that love matters for the sake of it. Women love opportunistically.

Today’s pull quote comes from Xpat Ranting’s blog. The discourse there is brief, but insightful:

I really, really, really hope the myth that girls are the hopeless romantics gets kicked to the curb ASAP. Everyone needs to realize that men are the “romantics pretending to be realists” and women; vice versa

I found this particularly thought provoking – Men are the romantics forced to be the realists, while women are the realists using romanticisms to effect their imperatives (hypergamy). This is a heaping mouthful of cruel reality to swallow, and dovetails nicely into the sixth Iron Rule of Tomassi:

Iron Rule of Tomassi #6
Women are utterly incapable of loving a man in the way that a man expects to be loved.

In its simplicity this speaks volumes about about the condition of Men. It accurately expresses a pervasive nihilism that Men must either confront and accept, or be driven insane in denial for the rest of their lives when they fail to come to terms with the disillusionment.

Women are incapable of loving men in a way that a man idealizes is possible, in a way he thinks she should be capable of.

In the same respect that women cannot appreciate the sacrifices men are expected to make in order to facilitate their imperatives, women can’t actualize how a man would have himself loved by her. It is not the natural state of women, and the moment he attempts to explain his ideal love, that’s the point at which his idealization becomes her obligation. Our girlfriends, our wives, daughters and even our mothers are all incapable of this idealized love. As nice as it would be to relax, trust and be vulnerable, upfront, rational and open, the great abyss is still the lack of an ability for women to love Men as Men would like them to.

For the plugged-in beta, this aspect of ‘awakening’ is very difficult to confront. Even in the face of constant, often traumatic, controversions to what a man hopes will be his reward for living up to qualifying for a woman’s love and intimacy, he’ll still hold onto that Disneyesque ideal.

It’s very important to understand that this love archetype is an artifact from our earliest feminized conditioning. It’s much healthier to accept that it isn’t possible and live within that framework. If she’s there, she’s there, if not, oh well. She’s not incapable of love in the way she defines it, she’s incapable of love as you would have it. She doesn’t lack the capacity for connection and emotional investment, she lacks the capacity for the connection you think would ideally suit you.

The resulting love that defines a long-term couple’s relationship is the result of coming to an understanding of this impossibility and re-imagining what it should be for Men. Men have been, and should be, the more dominant gender, not because of some imagined divine right or physical prowess, but because on some rudimentary psychological level we ought to realized that a woman’s love is contingent upon our capacity to maintain that love in spite of a woman’s hypergamy. By order of degrees, hypergamy will define who a woman loves and who she will not, depending upon her own opportunities and capacity to attract it.

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Jane
Jane
7 years ago

I’m so pleased to see how swimmingly your translations of ancient medieval texts by isolated monks who’d never had any contact with women into modern English is going. Top notch, you really got the bitter dehumanization of women and spiteful generalizations down pat.

M Simon
7 years ago

Jane,

So glad to hear you are not like them. And you must know so many more women so much like yourself. Excellent!

What is the divorce rate in the country you live in?

Claire
Claire
7 years ago

Men who are too pathetic to get women and turn t around to blame their shitty attitudes on women. Classic. Pathetic.

M Simon
7 years ago

Claire,

Were you speaking to me? Or was that a general comment?

Anthony Migchels
7 years ago

Interesting and very true. I think the key is that men are more spiritual and rational and women more emotional and earthly. This explains exactly why ‘men are the “romantics pretending to be realists” and women; vice versa’. ‘Realism’ is earthly, practical. Women are more in tune with what is physically necessary. Men are more in tune with what is desirable. Love is a function of the Spiritual, where all love comes from. Men are in the world to give love, not to receive it. The only way a man can receive love is by being with the Spirit. The… Read more »

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Blueplillprofessor
Blueplillprofessor
6 years ago

I have been reading quite a few people over on /r/theredpill trying to throw up the pill and plug back in rather than reject the Disney illusion. These are [Cyphers](http://therationalmale.com/2013/05/29/artificial-joy/) but this bit of scripture brought it home to me from John 6:60. >Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is hard teaching, who can hear it…. He said unto them, Doth this offend you….the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. 64But there are some of you that believe not…From that time many of his disciples went back,… Read more »

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corsicanlulu
corsicanlulu
6 years ago

idk but i think there may be a difference to how some women love and what others need from a man…i admit im a very, very insecure woman, extremely because of abuse etc. i think most of us women are very insecure at a deep level but some more than others because of abuse. if u haven’t had love or decency…u need a man to really emotionally connect w/. not that he’s gonna hold ur hand for every little thing but he needs to be understanding when u have deeper needs than the average woman….the average woman may really crave… Read more »

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Anita
Anita
6 years ago

I feel compelled to respond. It’s funny as in strange: I fell in love at age 23 with my husband’s intellect. No physical attraction whatsoever but Momma said that was normal. So I married him. I gave in to his every request and fantasy, trying to be the perfect wife in God’s eyes. But when the violence entered, i shuddered, woke up 27 years later, heading for divorce. I want my freedom. I want to respect, appreciate, and trust men but I will never again believe in love. It is a lie, I thought. But after reading your article, I… Read more »

Larry Stone
Larry Stone
6 years ago

People….it’s called communication, regardless of what the expectation is Damn, why has a nation become so focused on being lazy.

M Simon
6 years ago

corsicanlulu September 29th, 2014 at 6:53 pm The only way you are going to get what you need/want is to find a worthy man and surrender to him. The first is very difficult. For you the second may be near impossible. It is not in a woman’s nature to surrender and the abuse you have suffered multiplies the difficulty. What may work for you is to find a woman and a man willing to love you. The woman may give you enough security for you to surrender. Those kinds of relationships tend to be unstable. They are VERY rewarding while… Read more »

The Best Thing You'll Never Have
The Best Thing You'll Never Have
6 years ago

This entire theory is of course complete bullshit, which I’m sure you’ve heard about a trillion times. Generalizing the capacity to love of an entire gender based on your bigoted, absolutely unverifiable presumptions is absurd. But carry on. It’s interesting to see how men who are extremely threatened by women that are more intelligent, powerful, and are inherently stronger and better looking than them behave and think. You are not capable of fathoming anyone else’s capacity to love. Not one single other human being on this earth are you capable of making this claim about, much less all people on… Read more »

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Matatan
Matatan
6 years ago

“men who are extremely threatened by women that are more intelligent, powerful, and are inherently stronger and better looking than them”

Just out of curiosity, are you interested in men who are less intelligent, less powerful, weaker and worse looking than yourself?

AlphaLady
AlphaLady
6 years ago

I don’t understand. This is just rambling. There are no examples of how a man needs to be loved, or how women are incapable. He posits a theory and then provides absolutely no proof.

davidvs
davidvs
6 years ago

Rollo,

I read this when you wrote it. I knew you were on to something, but I disagreed somewhat, and after more than three years and many discussions with friends I have finally thought about this topic enough to have found the right words.

http://davidvs.net/hobbies/masculinity-romance.shtml

Thanks for initiating a lot of productive thoughts and discussions.

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Tony232
Tony232
6 years ago

I have never seen a man as callous, aloof and cruel, as the average woman. They are truly empty inside but only feign being otherwise. They only play the mythical, idealized woman. That IS the essence of the nasty Scam. We all fell for it unfortunately.

M Simon
6 years ago

Tony232
February 16th, 2015 at 8:48 pm

If she thinks you are the best and you can get her to surrender – women can be very pleasant. Enjoyable even. But it will require a LOT of training.

Getting women to acknowledge their own nature is very difficult. They don’t like it. Well the vast majority don’t.

Driver
Driver
6 years ago

There seem to be plenty of women on here commenting with the usual “rant” (must be fresh out of the Women’s Studies classes). If they actually took the time to read the article (and the series linked throughout the comments section), then they would find that the whole dynamic is explained in the series (not just in this one article). For all of the remarked “intelligence” by these women, they need to sign up for the second round of a reading comprehension course. Either that, or it’s easier to spout off about what the FI has been feeding them for… Read more »

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Rye
Rye
6 years ago

The Complete Neurotic’s Notebook (1981)

No one has ever loved anyone the way everyone wants to be loved.

Hmmm..,

Did I just break your post ?

I am saying:
I agree with quite some stuff you say.
Here however I’m not sure.

Do we *need* women ?
Not sure…

synapselens
5 years ago

Yeah, this is idiotic. “If I speak in absolutes and use the thesaurus, people will believe me!”

rugby11ljh
rugby11ljh
5 years ago

Puts things in a whole new perspective.

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Allpills
Allpills
5 years ago

Women are incapable of unconditional love? God, what is wrong with you people? And what? You think men are? Nope. Definitely not in my previous experiences. My ex bf of 5 years who made it seem like we would be together for life and get married left me when things got financially difficult like it was nothing. A complete contradiction to everything he said while we were together. If that’s not conditional, then I don’t know what is. I date women now because I’m Bisexual. I could go both ways, but I’m making the choice to date women exclusively from… Read more »

kenvisioncim
5 years ago

Reblogged this on Informess and commented: Astounding extrapolation of what I have always suspected. No wonder, Paul says that Woman was created for man and goes ahead to state the role and expectations of the man in this case. That he should love the woman not vise versa as the reverse is IMPOSSIBLE. A woman will weight a man against other males around on a number of practicalities based on his potential. She will then proceed to the highest bidder!!! Tell me am wrong. Here is the dramatic conundrum. In event her idealized position of the man she settled for… Read more »

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Lilja
Lilja
5 years ago

I know a woman that when he dumped her, she committed suicide…

Lilja
Lilja
5 years ago

I would also recomand a book by Nedjma (a pseudonim) , “forbidden fruit” to see how a woman loves. She gives in to a man with 10 years or so older than her, a womanazer and also a man who has status. She stays with him for 10 years, time in which she knows he goes to other women as well. Also he doesn’t hide this. She endures this pain. The book is erotic and there is a scene where he kinda enslaves her and she is so lovingly accepting it… He puts burnt ashes into her mouth while she… Read more »

caprizchka
5 years ago
Reply to  Lilja

Where can I find this book? There is nothing more scrubbed from history and narrative like this sort of woman’s story. Then pedants can smugly proclaim that they don’t exist.

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thomasso75
4 years ago

I see this more often now. Couples separating and the women treating their ex husbands like garbage. The former love is now a useful fool whom she can squeeze some money out of. Heading for the next adventure lurking around the corner as soon as she gets her week off from the children.

thomasso75
4 years ago

As a side note to this love thing, it’s also pure gold to watch couple dynamics after reading some of the posts on this side. Especially related to the post called “burden of performance” its very clear, that men today really have to step up to maintain just an illusion of a happy marriage /relationship. And that many women simply just enjoy the ride with minimum of effort. Remember, she needs “me time” despite her having a part time job and him working full time to provide. Resulting in a husband looking out for the kids in the weekends and… Read more »

Roused
Roused
4 years ago

This was a reply to Forge’s FR on his ex at work: “On your girl in her car. When you think you know what is up… PROVE it! Thats what guys who just get it do. You should have just gone over to the driver side, not the passenger side… And leaned in through the window and made out with her and then pulled her back into the office, the backseat or your place etc to isolate…” Seems like she was pulling Forge into her Frame. He basically followed her out even though he was well aware of what he… Read more »

F
F
4 years ago

Nah women can love and accept certain flaws in men. My parents were married for 50 years and she stuck by him though illnees and financial ruin.

Very thought provoking and I totally agree on the nature of women, however women can love, maybe not like a man, but as long as she sees in him certain traits that make her happy she will be there for him. Also, as people grow older, companionship and bond trumps all.

Peace

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sorad
sorad
4 years ago

man, all i can really say about this is i feel bad for every single person who commented thus far, seems like y’all got swindled out of a good relationship and now ya too mad to get back in the saddle. the key to a happy relationship is to date someone who likes being around you, independent of your attractiveness, wealth, or whatever. find someone who has everything in common with you, or if they don’t, they need to be willing to learn and tolerate a perspective other than their own. love is really hard work and relationships need to… Read more »

godfreyknows
godfreyknows
4 years ago

A woman’s life can be best described as a computer that will always welcome an upgrade, obsolete software be damned. Just open your Whatsapp and see the high number of guys who put their GFs/spouses as their Display Pic (DP). Now browse the females how many have put their men as their DP? I personally got zero! Women can’t afford to be seen as taken. Their value at work and in social circles depend on their perceived availability. They need to keep their options open.they always move in a perpetual state of being “on the market”. Why? Because they are!… Read more »

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ThisIsNonsense
ThisIsNonsense
4 years ago

If this is really how you see women I feel your choices in women are to be blamed, not women over all. I’ve been with my current boyfriend for five years. We live together, we monoterily and emotionally support EACH OTHER. More often than not he is not the best at sweeping gestures of romance, but he takes care of me so I don’t need those nonsense gestures because he shows me in the way that really matters. To the other point saying that a woman’s “I love you” is not as meaningful as a mans I think you are… Read more »

Omega Man
Omega Man
4 years ago

i’ll just leave this here to REPEAT what Rollo posted earlier:

“Understand: People are locked into their own experiences.”

some of the women posting seem very upset, angry, and emotional about what was posted. get over it… bc in-general, and UNLIKE your experiences, it rings true to (most) men.

or you can post a picture of a homeless man standing roadside with his faithful wife by his side…

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Angus
Angus
4 years ago

Useless article

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pratseek
4 years ago

I completely agree with the idea that men are actually romantics..I have written a blog post few weeks back on it..
https://wayofwomen.wordpress.com/2017/05/29/women-are-practical-men-are-romantic/

Jamess
Jamess
4 years ago

Years back, after a failed LTR with a ‘ good girl ‘ whose virginity I took and who I swear truly loved me at some point and who I truly loved unconditionally : I came to the realisation of some of the brilliant revelations Rollo writes about. I remember meditating on the bible when I recalled the scripture : Ephesians 5 :33 “However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.” It’s a man who is required to love the woman and the woman to respect him. In… Read more »

Hydrogen Wizard
Hydrogen Wizard
3 years ago

love is the great lie. Love cannot be given or received. You can only love yourself and resonate with a partner that loves themselves, this is the only way a loving relationship can be created. Stop searching for love and become love its self.

Stoic101
Stoic101
3 years ago

Honestly during my ‘red pill awakening’ this and THIS alone was the MAIN reason I stopped idealizing girls and expecting the ‘perfect love’. BAR NONE. The above post was a personal realization years ago and is really key to literally understanding everything else that a man should understand about girls. Seriously, if a man is a blue pill slave and white kight and prone to too much ‘nice-ness’ and the guy is a complete mess with girls understanding the above will truly bring peace and clarity of mind.

T
T
3 years ago

Alright.. welp, that’s it. I’m gonna start bonin dudes now. Who’s down? If we do it enough, it’ll catch on. LOL jk I agree w/ you completely though. In the relationships I’ve had, I’ve always felt like something at the core of how we felt for each other was missing. It always bothered me but I could never figure out exactly what it was but your article has both enlightened me and also slashed any hopes I had for a normal relationship. In this day and age, getting into any relationship with a woman seems far too dangerous. A simple… Read more »

Sri
Sri
3 years ago

Actually, it isn’t that women are unloving or unappreciative or not giving, they are a) Not so overt about it — Usually they end up giving till they’re spent (till then they’ll resist your attempts to help) and then they feel unloved. It’s a Mars – Venus dynamic. For an example of the not so overt, I knew my mom would come home and insist on making dinner for my dad but would not let it slip if she was having the flu. You had to observe carefully since the medium is the message. What they do fail to realize… Read more »

ItalyMich
ItalyMich
3 years ago

This is the best post in your entire blog man.
If there’s one webpage to recommend reading to downcast men, it is this one.

ItalyMich
ItalyMich
3 years ago

@sri

Now this doesn’t mean I am not observant of the fact that most women riding the cock carousel are quite shallow until they hit the wall

Yeah. ANd then, on reaching the Wall, they lose their shallowness. They become profound.
LOL.

Sri
Sri
3 years ago

The fewer the needs, the more abundant the love. That’s why parental love is the closest you can get to unconditional love (apart from your dog). What is termed unconditional is actually love in abundance. No one can deny that women have more needs than a single man. That’s why the betaization process happens for any man in an LTR or a marriage, but there’s no male equivalent (it doesn’t serve the man in any way to make his wife unattractive, but he will need her to support him and his biology will want to impregnate multiple women as it… Read more »

BloodthirstyDick
BloodthirstyDick
3 years ago

Ok i would explain to you guys the problem western men have with western women in relationships. Women do not like to date their equal, they prefer men that are superior to them. So when a woman in the west is middle class level of income and the men she meet are middle class too, her hypergamy is not impressed. So in the west high level men for women are millionnaires, and billionnaires are the real deal (of course they still valu a chaotic chad for wild fun, but once they hit the wall their materialistic instinct come out). So… Read more »

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marston45
3 years ago

this is not just in US but all over the world – with my relationships i realize the same thing – women cant really love the way men do !

Generation Z
3 years ago

As a newbie MGTOW, im in my early 20s, reading woman comments here have made me become confused a lot. Because their objectivity against this essay seems very legit while I am trying to really understand what is Rollo trying to say here. I am still somewhat trapped in the FI because of my upbringing, oh well I used to live with my single mother who exactly identified with hypergamy. I just want to know the true nature of man and women without judgement and become stoic is my goal. I have an LTR LDR whom I think had just… Read more »

michael Sodovski
michael Sodovski
3 years ago

Hypergamy has no connection to woman it’s a different name for “Ego”.
egotistical PEOPLE love opportunistically.
there are guys out there who are like that too and it is a spectrum.

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Marcus
Marcus
2 years ago

A weird gut feeling has risen, it’s on the border of a laugh & a cry. I’m very new to Rollo, this Rule is Pure Gold. Thanks.

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SJF
SJF
1 year ago

Hello Chelsea

You are a Bot, right?

If not tell us your life story. In three short paragraphs. Failure to do so in a human narrative form would prove the bot speculation.

“Beauty/Sexual attractiveness of a female produce physical pleasure (mundane) for men, skill or intelligence or courage or industriousness.of a male produce material pleasures and security (mundane) for women and their offsprings.”

Only bots and losers live a mundane life.

kfg
kfg
1 year ago

“1 triggered person Vote down All my rational posts which are based on reality of life.”

Possibly for the spamming, not the content itself.

kfg
kfg
1 year ago

” . . . how am i spamming, i’m discussing . . .” Several posts in a row making the same elementary point is not a “discussion.” I’m only responding because you haven’t changed your IP address every post as well. “I posted here to share my perspectives on the issue as a female.” Which is the only thing that distinguishes you from someone singing to the choir, but isn’t anything we haven’t seen before. You aren’t the only female who has commented here, nor the only one who doesn’t realize she’s just reenforcing the RM perspective. i.e. you are… Read more »

Be Strong or Be Weak
Be Strong or Be Weak
1 year ago

Rollo Tomassi and KFG are liars, in denial, hyprocritical, coward Beta Males. The author deleted all my posts because a lot of his ideas I proved wrong with basis from Realities of Life. (He didnt delete the posts from other females; he deleted mine because i made strong points.) Rollo and kfg, you guys are cowards cannot even counter my arguments properly. You downvoted and deleted (Lol embarrassing) the arguments instead of let it be in the public forum for other guys to read and decide for Themselves. You treat men like little boys. You wanted to brainwash men to… Read more »

Be Strong or Be Weak
Be Strong or Be Weak
1 year ago

@kfg “Most men will get more and more miserable and even kill themselves before they leave their wives for a leaner model.” Hyprocritical, and what a loser. The only reason men would let themselves become miserable and even kill themselves (such losers) if their wives become obese or undesirable and not get some pride (life goes on) start a new relationship with a Nice, Pretty woman is because they Can’t. If a man likes that nice, pretty woman and she have feelings for him, if the man is confident in having a good relationship with her, if he’s not insecure,… Read more »

Be Strong or Be Weak
Be Strong or Be Weak
1 year ago

Many readers have read my past posts already, go ahead delete these ones too to affirm what coward Beta males you guys are lol how embarrassing
I posted in other sites anyway- the strong men agreed and get motivated, the weak boys get depressed and stay loser.

Be Strong or Be Weak
Be Strong or Be Weak
1 year ago

@kfg “Men succeed at suicide the most, because they just can’t take it anymore and can’t conceive of simply leaving as a way out.” Ending your own life cos your spouse become obese, broke your heart, don’t find you good enough, being demanding, etc that’s stupidity, being weak, no sense of self-love and pride, being too dependent on someone else for your own happiness, lacking motivation and goals in life, Lacking Options That’s Not about having Idealistic love (i will kill myself cos im so heart broken!!!) So their way out is giving up, putting an end on their lives… Read more »

Be Strong or Be Weak
Be Strong or Be Weak
1 year ago

@kfg “you are projecting the opportunistic love of women onto men,” Why don’t you just accept that confidence, sense of humor, skills, intelligence, industriousness, being an achiever are great traits that women Desire/Admire and make them fall In love with a man (in most cases) And that these attributes, as a result, produce security and happiness for a woman and their children. Most strong men don’t complain about this, they are competitive and win. Women desire/respect/love them, they have many options, so they get to choose the best woman. For many other women, a man doesn’t even have to possess… Read more »

Be Strong or Be Weak
Be Strong or Be Weak
1 year ago

Banning me also for challenging your “rational” ideas instead of properly countering my points shows how fake, hypocritical, cowardly you guys are.

Be truthful.

Disguising my multiple posts as spamming lol you just dont want to accept the realities.

You just want excuses and scapegoats for your weaknesses and shortcomings in the dating game.

Be Strong or Be Weak
Be Strong or Be Weak
1 year ago

….through thick n thin, till death do us part…

I love my Obese wife for life! I will Never fall out of love!

-hyprocritical True Romantics

Fool yourselves.

Be Strong or Be Weak
Be Strong or Be Weak
1 year ago

@Rollo Tomassi “Actually most men don’t fall out of love with a woman when she gets fat. They lose arousal/attraction for her, but more often than not they’ll stay with her because they believe in an idealistic concept of love (love for the sake of it).” Is this Real life? The ones who Can leave, they leave. The others who Can’t leave, either Cheat or stay Unhappy/Miserable (in either cases, the man is Not being Romantically In love, if you’re In love with your partner you won’t cheat or feel miserable you should be happy even she’s Unattractive; Again, men… Read more »

Be Strong or Be Weak
Be Strong or Be Weak
1 year ago

If your Obese wife stopped doing household chores got lazy or stopped being a good mother to your children, would you still love her?

Men’s love is Conditional as well.

Having conditional love is Nature’s way so the father and mother work harder to ensure the protection, security and well-being of their family.

Be Strong or Be Weak
Be Strong or Be Weak
1 year ago

If you will delete any of my new posts, that’s only an affirmation you cannot counter properly my valid
points. That makes you lose credibility. (You should bring back all my deleted posts as well to show you’re not fake and a– coward)

Clearly I’m discussing elaborately about the issue to make Clear my arguments and points, not spamming like you guys falsely claims just so my posts you can hide from readers.

Many ppl have read these new posts too. 😉

Be Strong or Be Weak
Be Strong or Be Weak
1 year ago

If you will still insist that men are True Romantics, they love Idealistically….
They love their wife no matter what……….

Then for guys like you, Love is Blind for you then.

You are Irrational then. You don’t even know what is right and wrong kind of love. That makes a person miserable.

You’re not thinking with your brain nor with your penis. You’re not thinking at all.

You’re being delusional hopeless romantic. Holding on to Illusion.

Be Strong or Be Weak
Be Strong or Be Weak
1 year ago

@Rollo ” Women, on the other hand, adhere to an opportunistic concept of love rooted in their Hypergamous mating strategy – “Is he the best I can do?”, is the limbic doubt women must answer. In our ancestral past answering this question was literally a life or death proposition, thus it entered into women’s evolutionary firmware of today. When that answer is ‘no’ that’s when women abandon their mates for the prospect of a better one, or a better living apart from their low SMV man. This is why women initiate 70%+ of all divorce. Their concept of love is… Read more »

Be Strong or Be Weak
Be Strong or Be Weak
1 year ago

wrong section. i was supposed to post the last 2 posts in here: https://therationalmale.com/2016/04/24/fempowerment/

Blaximus
Blaximus
1 year ago

😕🕜

redlight
redlight
1 year ago

@B Strong Week

You don’t know how oppressed men are now. Millennials are having less sex than any time in history! Birth rates are dropping, we are heading for extinction! Rollo today had to do a youtube video to tell millennials why sex is important. They didn’t know, they think a pumpkin latte is more important!

theasdgamer
1 year ago

Chelsea, how old are you?

This Post Garbage
This Post Garbage
1 year ago

This is garbage. What way does a man expects to be loved?

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