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		<title>By: Sun Wukong</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2015 20:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder if Beta behavior can ever be reclassified as pathological the way Alpha behavior is these days. It sure as hell should be, with the awful consequences it sets a man up for.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if Beta behavior can ever be reclassified as pathological the way Alpha behavior is these days. It sure as hell should be, with the awful consequences it sets a man up for.</p>
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		<title>By: Sun Wukong</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2015/04/07/admiration-respect/comment-page-2/#comment-96163</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2015 20:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Betas can become Alpha, Alphas can become Betas. Personality is malleable and Alpha is a mindset.

However, expecting that a woman can (or will even try to) do it for a man she&#039;s in an LTR with is like expecting that if you just ignore gravity hard enough you can fly without a plane. Expecting that a woman can get a guy you can &quot;work on&quot; and make him Alpha is as stupid as a guy getting a slightly overweight chick and thinking he can make her lose that weight and be hot. That ain&#039;t how it works.

It must come from his own internal motivations and decisions or it simply isn&#039;t an Alpha mindset he&#039;s fostering. Much like an alcoholic cannot overcome their addictions until they decide they want to, a Beta cannot give up being a Beta until he decides with everything in him that he wants to. Nobody can do it for him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Betas can become Alpha, Alphas can become Betas. Personality is malleable and Alpha is a mindset.</p>
<p>However, expecting that a woman can (or will even try to) do it for a man she&#8217;s in an LTR with is like expecting that if you just ignore gravity hard enough you can fly without a plane. Expecting that a woman can get a guy you can &#8220;work on&#8221; and make him Alpha is as stupid as a guy getting a slightly overweight chick and thinking he can make her lose that weight and be hot. That ain&#8217;t how it works.</p>
<p>It must come from his own internal motivations and decisions or it simply isn&#8217;t an Alpha mindset he&#8217;s fostering. Much like an alcoholic cannot overcome their addictions until they decide they want to, a Beta cannot give up being a Beta until he decides with everything in him that he wants to. Nobody can do it for him.</p>
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		<title>By: DeNihilist</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2015 20:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NBTM - nope, most people are born to follow, just a few to lead. Some followers can become good commanders and fulfill their leaders wish, but most just stay a part of the herd.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NBTM &#8211; nope, most people are born to follow, just a few to lead. Some followers can become good commanders and fulfill their leaders wish, but most just stay a part of the herd.</p>
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		<title>By: DeNihilist</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2015/04/07/admiration-respect/comment-page-2/#comment-96160</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2015 20:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See above T]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See above T</p>
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		<title>By: DeNihilist</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2015/04/07/admiration-respect/comment-page-2/#comment-96158</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2015 20:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And to further Deti&#039;s take, we have this bit of reality - 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/08/elizabeth-plank-beyonce-flip-the-script_n_7026128.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And to further Deti&#8217;s take, we have this bit of reality &#8211; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/08/elizabeth-plank-beyonce-flip-the-script_n_7026128.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/08/elizabeth-plank-beyonce-flip-the-script_n_7026128.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Not Born This Morning</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2015/04/07/admiration-respect/comment-page-2/#comment-96157</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2015 20:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@dumbwhtboy 

 &quot;I was not going to comment, but @bluepillprofessor if you think every man can be an Alpha then you are smoking the good stuff....&quot;

I hope you are wrong. Hopefully every man is born alpha and that the beta we experience and see is the result of conditioning. Maybe alpha can be realized by men everywhere through developing themselves for the betterment of themselves and those around them rather than missing the opportunity by erroneously assuming alpha is a hoop to jump through to &quot;get laid&quot; or wishing alpha can some how be instilled by mothering.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dumbwhtboy </p>
<p> &#8220;I was not going to comment, but @bluepillprofessor if you think every man can be an Alpha then you are smoking the good stuff&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>I hope you are wrong. Hopefully every man is born alpha and that the beta we experience and see is the result of conditioning. Maybe alpha can be realized by men everywhere through developing themselves for the betterment of themselves and those around them rather than missing the opportunity by erroneously assuming alpha is a hoop to jump through to &#8220;get laid&#8221; or wishing alpha can some how be instilled by mothering.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr T</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2015 20:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Respect = I am the only one you fuck .
Admiration = you blow me dry all the time.
Adore=anal sex.
Appreciated=after I come, you’re OK with me falling asleep.
Forgiving =if I cheat on you.
Loyalty =you take me back after I cheated.


come on fellow men , TELL me YOURS.
I have yet to see ONE  of you explain what he means by needing respect/admiration/appreciation from a woman ?
I know ,,if you struggle with your answers ,, it means they mean nothing to you or to any woman .
women themselves struggle finding answers because they know the answers are the above.


 &quot;thus compliments and admiration are an alien concept to her&quot;
         Rollo Tomassi.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Respect = I am the only one you fuck .<br />
Admiration = you blow me dry all the time.<br />
Adore=anal sex.<br />
Appreciated=after I come, you’re OK with me falling asleep.<br />
Forgiving =if I cheat on you.<br />
Loyalty =you take me back after I cheated.</p>
<p>come on fellow men , TELL me YOURS.<br />
I have yet to see ONE  of you explain what he means by needing respect/admiration/appreciation from a woman ?<br />
I know ,,if you struggle with your answers ,, it means they mean nothing to you or to any woman .<br />
women themselves struggle finding answers because they know the answers are the above.</p>
<p> &#8220;thus compliments and admiration are an alien concept to her&#8221;<br />
         Rollo Tomassi.</p>
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		<title>By: thedeti</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2015 19:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I’m coming to the suspicion that women’s revulsion towards Beta male psychology, personality and behaviors is an evolved instinct.

&quot;There is a female hindbrain, limbic sensitivity to Beta behavioral patterns. This leads me to believe that after a certain threshold of tolerance women’s perception of that Beta is set for her.&quot;

Right.  You know all this, from your interactions with the HUS commentariat, and the Sunshine Mary blog    You remember the discussions in which it was asserted that women could be sexually aroused by beta traits.   You remember the assertions that female attraction triggers are malleable and that with effort, a woman can actually change what sexually arouses her.   You remember those failures, do you not?     You can see it right now at HUS, where Susan and her current commenters are stating outright that many men are not attractive to any women and there is not a damn thing those men can do about it.  They are doomed to sexual failure and grinding involuntary celibacy their entire lives.   If those men want sex, their only options are renting prostitutes and wanking to porn.    

And you remember at SSM&#039;s the contentious discussions I engaged in, regarding how attraction cannot be &quot;generated&quot; from nothing; one cannot &quot;create&quot; attraction or sexual arousal from nothing.    You do remember, don&#039;t you, the arguments over whether there is some attraction there and it can be rekindled; but if attraction/arousal aren&#039;t there in the beginning, then they will never be there? 

Those principles are at work here.   The problem is that these women have to be encouraged to have sex with their beta husbands, because they aren&#039;t sexually attracted to those men.   They don&#039;t want to have sex with those men.  If they did, they&#039;d be doing it instead of talking about it.   

Dragonfly is writing about this because of the single biggest problem in  marriages today -- most women are married to men who just don&#039;t trip their triggers.  Most women are married to men who they are not attracted to; or who are less attractive than the men those women used to have sex with before they got married.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m coming to the suspicion that women’s revulsion towards Beta male psychology, personality and behaviors is an evolved instinct.</p>
<p>&#8220;There is a female hindbrain, limbic sensitivity to Beta behavioral patterns. This leads me to believe that after a certain threshold of tolerance women’s perception of that Beta is set for her.&#8221;</p>
<p>Right.  You know all this, from your interactions with the HUS commentariat, and the Sunshine Mary blog    You remember the discussions in which it was asserted that women could be sexually aroused by beta traits.   You remember the assertions that female attraction triggers are malleable and that with effort, a woman can actually change what sexually arouses her.   You remember those failures, do you not?     You can see it right now at HUS, where Susan and her current commenters are stating outright that many men are not attractive to any women and there is not a damn thing those men can do about it.  They are doomed to sexual failure and grinding involuntary celibacy their entire lives.   If those men want sex, their only options are renting prostitutes and wanking to porn.    </p>
<p>And you remember at SSM&#8217;s the contentious discussions I engaged in, regarding how attraction cannot be &#8220;generated&#8221; from nothing; one cannot &#8220;create&#8221; attraction or sexual arousal from nothing.    You do remember, don&#8217;t you, the arguments over whether there is some attraction there and it can be rekindled; but if attraction/arousal aren&#8217;t there in the beginning, then they will never be there? </p>
<p>Those principles are at work here.   The problem is that these women have to be encouraged to have sex with their beta husbands, because they aren&#8217;t sexually attracted to those men.   They don&#8217;t want to have sex with those men.  If they did, they&#8217;d be doing it instead of talking about it.   </p>
<p>Dragonfly is writing about this because of the single biggest problem in  marriages today &#8212; most women are married to men who just don&#8217;t trip their triggers.  Most women are married to men who they are not attracted to; or who are less attractive than the men those women used to have sex with before they got married.</p>
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