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		<title>By: M3</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2015/03/24/betas-in-waiting/comment-page-5/#comment-96040</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2015 20:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;One major difference is that I didn’t “settle” because my SMV was plummeting, quite to the contrary, increasing SMV over time let me find a long-term partner good enough to settle down with. &quot;

&quot;It is easy to do an easy thing, it is hard to do a hard thing.&quot; - Me

Women are attracted to men who other women have had. Men are attracted to women that could have been with many guys, but limited their choices smartly to a tiny pool

Preselection. For men it means how many women have fucked him+how many women want to fuck him based on either his looks or direct knowledge of how many women he&#039;s fucked. For women it means are they a bitch?+are they fat? For every woman with ave/above ave looks is already preselected for sex.

A man&#039;s smv is directly related to how attractive he is to women, and women find a preselected man attractive. For a man with options, to be at the height of his smv and then to voluntarily take himself off the market is a HARD thing to do and should be recognized as such because of all his options.

A woman&#039;s smv is directly related to how objectively beautiful she looks (being subjective but universally accepted in the boner test) and the direct knowledge that most all men want to be in her. Her being desired by other men is not what directly makes her attractive for commitment (the eye candy byproduct). It is her rejection of sex from most suitors for only the extreme few which applies the highest, most direct assignment of value she can give a man that. For a woman to reject sex instead of giving herself freely (and easily/cheaply) to all suitors is the HARD thing to do especially at the height of her SMV and should be recognized as such.

It is easy for a woman to &#039;settle down&#039; after the wall. That is no accomplishment.
It is easy for an unattractive man to tell women he&#039;d marry them in a heartbeat and love them forever whether she is deserving of it or not. That is no accomplishment.
It is easy for a woman of average to above average looks to find and have sex when they are at their youngest and most fertile. Biologically it makes sense.. but it&#039;s no accomplishment if the daddy don&#039;t stick around and leaves her and the child to die in the woods.. but this ain&#039;t 10,000 B.C.

We should only ever acknowledge the things that are hard to do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;One major difference is that I didn’t “settle” because my SMV was plummeting, quite to the contrary, increasing SMV over time let me find a long-term partner good enough to settle down with. &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;It is easy to do an easy thing, it is hard to do a hard thing.&#8221; &#8211; Me</p>
<p>Women are attracted to men who other women have had. Men are attracted to women that could have been with many guys, but limited their choices smartly to a tiny pool</p>
<p>Preselection. For men it means how many women have fucked him+how many women want to fuck him based on either his looks or direct knowledge of how many women he&#8217;s fucked. For women it means are they a bitch?+are they fat? For every woman with ave/above ave looks is already preselected for sex.</p>
<p>A man&#8217;s smv is directly related to how attractive he is to women, and women find a preselected man attractive. For a man with options, to be at the height of his smv and then to voluntarily take himself off the market is a HARD thing to do and should be recognized as such because of all his options.</p>
<p>A woman&#8217;s smv is directly related to how objectively beautiful she looks (being subjective but universally accepted in the boner test) and the direct knowledge that most all men want to be in her. Her being desired by other men is not what directly makes her attractive for commitment (the eye candy byproduct). It is her rejection of sex from most suitors for only the extreme few which applies the highest, most direct assignment of value she can give a man that. For a woman to reject sex instead of giving herself freely (and easily/cheaply) to all suitors is the HARD thing to do especially at the height of her SMV and should be recognized as such.</p>
<p>It is easy for a woman to &#8216;settle down&#8217; after the wall. That is no accomplishment.<br />
It is easy for an unattractive man to tell women he&#8217;d marry them in a heartbeat and love them forever whether she is deserving of it or not. That is no accomplishment.<br />
It is easy for a woman of average to above average looks to find and have sex when they are at their youngest and most fertile. Biologically it makes sense.. but it&#8217;s no accomplishment if the daddy don&#8217;t stick around and leaves her and the child to die in the woods.. but this ain&#8217;t 10,000 B.C.</p>
<p>We should only ever acknowledge the things that are hard to do.</p>
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		<title>By: former-party-guy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2015 19:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a question: what if it is the man who had his party years, and the woman resents it? I partied it up, had lots of partners, and then married a hot, low-partner-number woman. She hates it when there are occasional reminders of my indiscriminate past. Is it buying into the feminine imperative for me to feel a little bad about this?

One major difference is that I didn&#039;t &quot;settle&quot; because my SMV was plummeting, quite to the contrary, increasing SMV over time let me find a long-term partner good enough to settle down with. Plus I wanted stability &amp; kids more than partying as I got older. Still, seems some of your points in support of the chaste partner&#039;s bitterness apply even with genders swapped.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a question: what if it is the man who had his party years, and the woman resents it? I partied it up, had lots of partners, and then married a hot, low-partner-number woman. She hates it when there are occasional reminders of my indiscriminate past. Is it buying into the feminine imperative for me to feel a little bad about this?</p>
<p>One major difference is that I didn&#8217;t &#8220;settle&#8221; because my SMV was plummeting, quite to the contrary, increasing SMV over time let me find a long-term partner good enough to settle down with. Plus I wanted stability &amp; kids more than partying as I got older. Still, seems some of your points in support of the chaste partner&#8217;s bitterness apply even with genders swapped.</p>
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		<title>By: Wives &#38; Lovers &#124;</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wives &#38; Lovers &#124;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2015 22:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Badpainter: [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: The Diplomat</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2015/03/24/betas-in-waiting/comment-page-5/#comment-94721</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Diplomat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2015 03:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Sun

Good one. Thanks for the chuckle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Sun</p>
<p>Good one. Thanks for the chuckle.</p>
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		<title>By: George Meeks - Not born this morning - whatever the fuck you want to call me</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2015/03/24/betas-in-waiting/comment-page-5/#comment-94709</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Meeks - Not born this morning - whatever the fuck you want to call me]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2015 01:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Every man must seriously consider any woman as a risk and a liability primarily before any other considerations. ThIs is what she really is to his life regardless of what he wants to believe. He must never forget this, especially in an LTR. All risks and liabilities must be MANAGED.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every man must seriously consider any woman as a risk and a liability primarily before any other considerations. ThIs is what she really is to his life regardless of what he wants to believe. He must never forget this, especially in an LTR. All risks and liabilities must be MANAGED.</p>
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		<title>By: George Meeks - Not born this morning - whatever the fuck you want to call me</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2015/03/24/betas-in-waiting/comment-page-5/#comment-94708</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Meeks - Not born this morning - whatever the fuck you want to call me]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2015 01:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To be a &quot;MAN&quot; means to not let the woman have control

of your loyalty
your bank account
your dignity
your time
your emotions
your hopes
your fears...

All of these things are yours. They are not hers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be a &#8220;MAN&#8221; means to not let the woman have control</p>
<p>of your loyalty<br />
your bank account<br />
your dignity<br />
your time<br />
your emotions<br />
your hopes<br />
your fears&#8230;</p>
<p>All of these things are yours. They are not hers.</p>
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		<title>By: Sun Wukong</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2015/03/24/betas-in-waiting/comment-page-5/#comment-94707</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sun Wukong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2015 01:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Badpainter

A date after the divorce.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Badpainter</p>
<p>A date after the divorce.</p>
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		<title>By: George Meeks - Not born this morning - whatever the fuck you want to call me</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2015/03/24/betas-in-waiting/comment-page-5/#comment-94705</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Meeks - Not born this morning - whatever the fuck you want to call me]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2015 01:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[--&quot; I don’t fucking deserve to be tossed out like a piece of trash.&quot;

INTO THE GUTTER WHERE SHE BELONGS AND WHERE SHE CAME FROM!!!

&quot;Newgal&quot; - There is not a fucking thing new about you!!!!!

Rollo-

Your work is excellent despite my disagreement with you concerning &quot;idealist love&quot;. You really connect the dots as you say and I still recommend your work. It is like a knife cutting straight to the truth and you break down &amp; explain things in a manner that most can &quot;get it&quot;

However, I personally cannot swallow &quot;idealist love&quot; in ANY context whatsoever. Call me nihilistic if you like. Perhaps I&#039;m unable to ever re-embrace any concept of &quot;idealist love&quot; ever again because I see it is the bullshit diarrhea of the mind that gets us all fucked up to begin with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8211;&#8221; I don’t fucking deserve to be tossed out like a piece of trash.&#8221;</p>
<p>INTO THE GUTTER WHERE SHE BELONGS AND WHERE SHE CAME FROM!!!</p>
<p>&#8220;Newgal&#8221; &#8211; There is not a fucking thing new about you!!!!!</p>
<p>Rollo-</p>
<p>Your work is excellent despite my disagreement with you concerning &#8220;idealist love&#8221;. You really connect the dots as you say and I still recommend your work. It is like a knife cutting straight to the truth and you break down &amp; explain things in a manner that most can &#8220;get it&#8221;</p>
<p>However, I personally cannot swallow &#8220;idealist love&#8221; in ANY context whatsoever. Call me nihilistic if you like. Perhaps I&#8217;m unable to ever re-embrace any concept of &#8220;idealist love&#8221; ever again because I see it is the bullshit diarrhea of the mind that gets us all fucked up to begin with.</p>
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