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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2015/03/13/bachelor-nation/comment-page-2/#comment-94685</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2015 23:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As far as Bachelor Nation goes, does this mean that the 34 year old men and older out there are going to now mate up with the carousel riders????
Any thoughts on that???]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as Bachelor Nation goes, does this mean that the 34 year old men and older out there are going to now mate up with the carousel riders????<br />
Any thoughts on that???</p>
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		<title>By: Rodrigo Amado</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2015/03/13/bachelor-nation/comment-page-2/#comment-93329</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2015 12:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s important to remember that american, or any foreigner of a developed country, have a easy time with women in brazil just because these women sees these man as having much higher status than the average native joe.

My statement can be confirmed, for example, by this news, which explains what I said just by the title:
&quot;Brazilian Men Are Pretending to Be World Cup Tourists to Hook Up With Brazilian Women&quot;:

http://mashable.com/2014/06/26/brazilians-go-gringo-to-hook-up-at-world-cup/

If brazilians are pretending to be foreigner to hook up with their own natives it is because the native women value foreigner more than the natives.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s important to remember that american, or any foreigner of a developed country, have a easy time with women in brazil just because these women sees these man as having much higher status than the average native joe.</p>
<p>My statement can be confirmed, for example, by this news, which explains what I said just by the title:<br />
&#8220;Brazilian Men Are Pretending to Be World Cup Tourists to Hook Up With Brazilian Women&#8221;:</p>
<p><a href="http://mashable.com/2014/06/26/brazilians-go-gringo-to-hook-up-at-world-cup/" rel="nofollow">http://mashable.com/2014/06/26/brazilians-go-gringo-to-hook-up-at-world-cup/</a></p>
<p>If brazilians are pretending to be foreigner to hook up with their own natives it is because the native women value foreigner more than the natives.</p>
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		<title>By: sjfrellc</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2015 04:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Jafyk
March 14th, 2015 at 6:21 am

Hey, for the record Roissy has a few hidden gems. The link below says it all. That ovulation game stuff? All bets are off when the woman is on the pill:


https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/10/19/how-the-pill-will-change-your-game/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jafyk<br />
March 14th, 2015 at 6:21 am</p>
<p>Hey, for the record Roissy has a few hidden gems. The link below says it all. That ovulation game stuff? All bets are off when the woman is on the pill:</p>
<p><a href="https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/10/19/how-the-pill-will-change-your-game/" rel="nofollow">https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/10/19/how-the-pill-will-change-your-game/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jack LeBear</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2015 06:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s the difference if I had nothing to do with the woman&#039;s divorce?

Suppose my finances are in bad shape because of my divorce, and I have the choice to have a live in LTR with one of two women, equally attractive, one of whom has the house and spousal support, and one who doesn&#039;t, and they both earn the same wage. Are you telling me there is something wrong with choosing the one with the house?

Actually, the picture I had is that if all divorced men financing exes got together with divorced women being financed by exes, then all the divorce rapings cancel. There is then zero net transfer of wealth from the men to the women.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the difference if I had nothing to do with the woman&#8217;s divorce?</p>
<p>Suppose my finances are in bad shape because of my divorce, and I have the choice to have a live in LTR with one of two women, equally attractive, one of whom has the house and spousal support, and one who doesn&#8217;t, and they both earn the same wage. Are you telling me there is something wrong with choosing the one with the house?</p>
<p>Actually, the picture I had is that if all divorced men financing exes got together with divorced women being financed by exes, then all the divorce rapings cancel. There is then zero net transfer of wealth from the men to the women.</p>
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		<title>By: Col Trautman</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2015 05:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@jack lebear,

Well if a guy gets burned while you&#039;re pursuing your wants, that&#039;s one thing. You framed it like that was something you should actually look for (taking advantage of another man&#039;s cash). A world of difference there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jack lebear,</p>
<p>Well if a guy gets burned while you&#8217;re pursuing your wants, that&#8217;s one thing. You framed it like that was something you should actually look for (taking advantage of another man&#8217;s cash). A world of difference there.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack LeBear</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2015 17:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Colonel Trautman

&quot; Is the thrill of stooging some unknown guy worth that much? That’s a chick-minded move on your part&quot;

I&#039;m not advocating stooging some unknown guy, nor would I get a thrill from it. I find it a positive that there are some men out there like you who care  about the welfare of other men more than getting theirs at any cost.
As for it being a chick thing, the same criticism and debate has been made about Game in general.

I&#039;m just pointing to the reality of the modern world where we have to deal with the contigencies facing us. It&#039;s the same as using game to get laid in this era of open hypergamy. It&#039;s along the same line as advocating poaching other men&#039;s women, which BTW I consider undesirable to throw other men under the bus just to get laid. And even if you find what I said distasteful, it is still a reality that many men will find themselves in the situation of mating with a woman who is financially benefitting from an ex.

@Tam the Bam

Let me clarify, I&#039;m neither sadistic nor vengeful. Besides having been heavily BP, I have also been subject to the (No More) Nice Guy syndrome most of my life, putting others, both men and women ahead of myself.
My tendency is to turn my pain inwards and self destruct. What I was doing here is exploring alternative reactions. I&#039;m gyrating towards the opposite extreme in my mind to try to find the middle ground. 
Actually, the normal human revenge fantasies if I have them are short lived because when it comes down to it, I can&#039;t be bothered. As Sun said it&#039;s best just to put it behind me and move on instead of stewing in the trauma.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Colonel Trautman</p>
<p>&#8221; Is the thrill of stooging some unknown guy worth that much? That’s a chick-minded move on your part&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not advocating stooging some unknown guy, nor would I get a thrill from it. I find it a positive that there are some men out there like you who care  about the welfare of other men more than getting theirs at any cost.<br />
As for it being a chick thing, the same criticism and debate has been made about Game in general.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just pointing to the reality of the modern world where we have to deal with the contigencies facing us. It&#8217;s the same as using game to get laid in this era of open hypergamy. It&#8217;s along the same line as advocating poaching other men&#8217;s women, which BTW I consider undesirable to throw other men under the bus just to get laid. And even if you find what I said distasteful, it is still a reality that many men will find themselves in the situation of mating with a woman who is financially benefitting from an ex.</p>
<p>@Tam the Bam</p>
<p>Let me clarify, I&#8217;m neither sadistic nor vengeful. Besides having been heavily BP, I have also been subject to the (No More) Nice Guy syndrome most of my life, putting others, both men and women ahead of myself.<br />
My tendency is to turn my pain inwards and self destruct. What I was doing here is exploring alternative reactions. I&#8217;m gyrating towards the opposite extreme in my mind to try to find the middle ground.<br />
Actually, the normal human revenge fantasies if I have them are short lived because when it comes down to it, I can&#8217;t be bothered. As Sun said it&#8217;s best just to put it behind me and move on instead of stewing in the trauma.</p>
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		<title>By: Tam the Bam</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2015/03/13/bachelor-nation/comment-page-2/#comment-92550</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2015 12:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jack Lebear: Once again I&#039;m Sun W&#039;s mini-me on this. &quot;punishment&quot; etc. even if it could be devised and implemennted, would be wasted on a proven Liar and what in my books could also be a psychopath. How do you instruct or deter psychos?
Avoid. Do not engage.

I didn&#039;t catch the &quot;troll&quot; aroma, so could some clever person please spell it out for me or I&#039;ll just go on feeding them unawares.  Seemed legit if a bit dull. When I was young everything I owned fit in a backpack. Made damn&#039; sure it did, or it just got left. Which is why I never caught the TV bug, a 32&quot; CRT is a right bastard to stow.

Also, what the fuck &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;is it&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; with nurses? That&#039;s one of the reasons it seemed a reasonable issue to me. Personal experience.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack Lebear: Once again I&#8217;m Sun W&#8217;s mini-me on this. &#8220;punishment&#8221; etc. even if it could be devised and implemennted, would be wasted on a proven Liar and what in my books could also be a psychopath. How do you instruct or deter psychos?<br />
Avoid. Do not engage.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t catch the &#8220;troll&#8221; aroma, so could some clever person please spell it out for me or I&#8217;ll just go on feeding them unawares.  Seemed legit if a bit dull. When I was young everything I owned fit in a backpack. Made damn&#8217; sure it did, or it just got left. Which is why I never caught the TV bug, a 32&#8243; CRT is a right bastard to stow.</p>
<p>Also, what the fuck <b><i>is it</i></b> with nurses? That&#8217;s one of the reasons it seemed a reasonable issue to me. Personal experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Novaseeker</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2015 11:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The fact that we can’t be open with what we know outside here feels like a burden and also makes us seem like cowards sitting back and watching our time period go up in flames. Trying to save each man a person at a time seems like it’s hardly going to count. Most of the guys I’ve even mentioned the red pill are so oblivious and don’t even seem to have a clue as to what I’m talking about.&lt;/i&gt;

Some guys (many) can&#039;t be helped.  They very much prefer to remain jacked into the matrix over the painful process of un-jacking and relearning every single thing about men and women from scratch.  Unappealing to lots of guys, so there is a natural boundary on the number of men who are open to hearing the red pill message.  

That in itself underscores the futility of a &quot;wider movement&quot; of any sort to address the underlying issues.  If you can&#039;t get a man whose wife is having trains run on her to read a few things, you certainly can&#039;t have any hope whatsoever of having any significant number of guys join a movement.  Not happening.  That&#039;s why MRAs remain very small, and mostly comprised of men who are on the harsh back end of having been badly burned and spit out by the system.  Every other guy?  Not going to reach 90% of them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The fact that we can’t be open with what we know outside here feels like a burden and also makes us seem like cowards sitting back and watching our time period go up in flames. Trying to save each man a person at a time seems like it’s hardly going to count. Most of the guys I’ve even mentioned the red pill are so oblivious and don’t even seem to have a clue as to what I’m talking about.</i></p>
<p>Some guys (many) can&#8217;t be helped.  They very much prefer to remain jacked into the matrix over the painful process of un-jacking and relearning every single thing about men and women from scratch.  Unappealing to lots of guys, so there is a natural boundary on the number of men who are open to hearing the red pill message.  </p>
<p>That in itself underscores the futility of a &#8220;wider movement&#8221; of any sort to address the underlying issues.  If you can&#8217;t get a man whose wife is having trains run on her to read a few things, you certainly can&#8217;t have any hope whatsoever of having any significant number of guys join a movement.  Not happening.  That&#8217;s why MRAs remain very small, and mostly comprised of men who are on the harsh back end of having been badly burned and spit out by the system.  Every other guy?  Not going to reach 90% of them.</p>
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