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		<title>By: Rollo Tomassi</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2015/02/06/two-camps/comment-page-2/#comment-88825</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2015 13:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apex fallacy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apex fallacy.</p>
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		<title>By: stankfist@stankfist.com</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2015/02/06/two-camps/comment-page-2/#comment-88805</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2015 08:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If any of this shit were true, EVERY man on Earth since about 10,000 BC would be an &quot;alpha male.&quot; Everyone else would have been bred-out of the gene pool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If any of this shit were true, EVERY man on Earth since about 10,000 BC would be an &#8220;alpha male.&#8221; Everyone else would have been bred-out of the gene pool.</p>
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		<title>By: ManPersonNumber6762</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2015 21:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lets test your RP game awareness. Here is a thought exercise for everyone: Is Smoove B an alpha or beta?:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/you-will-be-my-everything,37975/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets test your RP game awareness. Here is a thought exercise for everyone: Is Smoove B an alpha or beta?:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theonion.com/articles/you-will-be-my-everything,37975/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theonion.com/articles/you-will-be-my-everything,37975/</a></p>
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		<title>By: 447</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2015/02/06/two-camps/comment-page-2/#comment-88009</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2015 06:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Not Born This Morning: &quot;Is man’s identity now supposed to be defined by this shallow pop culture, “feminine imperitive”, “hypergamy” dualistic classification? Is this how we men should envision ourselves? “You can be the alpha fuck-a-lot or the beta good-dad-provider or some vague combination of both”…….”But that’s all you’re ever going to be, and that’s all women will ever see you as……..”

If this is how you prefer to define yourself, then this is what you will be.&quot;

You draw the outlines of a dilemma that does not have to exist.
In my opinon, this where *real* Inner Game comes in:
Hypergamy doesn&#039;t care - the Borg don&#039;t care what some bipedal mammalian is uttering through it&#039;s mouth piece. They just ram the assimilator in, because their imperative says just that. ;-)

Or, to be a bit less nerdy:
You underestimate the power of DoubleThink.

You apply techniques (that, in the course of time, become indistinguishable from your real behaviour because they are now part of exactly that behaviour, similar to the tool in the toolbox) - you reach a certain amount of success getting women to do what you want to.

What Hypergamy thinks about that - YOU don&#039;t care.

In that moment, an emotion, &#039;special&#039; moment or even perhaps beta move (like sometimes buying flowers) is real - you adopt it to get what you want and go with it - one side of doublethink. AT THE SAME TIME you are of course aware (and STAY aware), what women are and what their basic wiring is as soon as they are out of control (which is all the time erverytime in our &#039;civilization&#039;).

Simple example of applying that:
My LTR (who is quite ok, as far as women go these days) showers me with sex and good emotions, so I sometimes buy her flowers - she &#039;likes&#039; that, but of course it is a beta move without arousal. Last week, instead of dumping negative emotions with some stupid BFF or orbiter, she dumped an unwarrented amount of that on me, fiddiling around with an Iphone while doing it to &#039;show&#039; something.
I activated doublethink and (which is a move I applied some months ago on a plate, too) smiled (feeling happy and submissive to her imperative) and casually dropped her Iphone of the balcony. This of course caused her to rescue her phone, which ment she couldn&#039;t continue dumping emotions on me in a negative way - and broke that pattern. No rage, actually. Just apply the screwdriver to the problem.
This morning, I just prepared her something to eat because she has a very important meeting today and I have some time left (total beta move/kitchen bitch?) - but I did it with balls drained and everything is fine. There will be no negative communication for at least several months.

DoubleThink - it&#039;s the power of the void.
Hypergamy drops on its knees, ready to serve.

Perhaps she leaves this moth or in ten years or I will - who knowes?
The Void doesn&#039;t care about Hypergamy, it sets you free.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Not Born This Morning: &#8220;Is man’s identity now supposed to be defined by this shallow pop culture, “feminine imperitive”, “hypergamy” dualistic classification? Is this how we men should envision ourselves? “You can be the alpha fuck-a-lot or the beta good-dad-provider or some vague combination of both”…….”But that’s all you’re ever going to be, and that’s all women will ever see you as……..”</p>
<p>If this is how you prefer to define yourself, then this is what you will be.&#8221;</p>
<p>You draw the outlines of a dilemma that does not have to exist.<br />
In my opinon, this where *real* Inner Game comes in:<br />
Hypergamy doesn&#8217;t care &#8211; the Borg don&#8217;t care what some bipedal mammalian is uttering through it&#8217;s mouth piece. They just ram the assimilator in, because their imperative says just that. <span class='wp-smiley wp-emoji wp-emoji-wink' title=';-)'>;-)</span></p>
<p>Or, to be a bit less nerdy:<br />
You underestimate the power of DoubleThink.</p>
<p>You apply techniques (that, in the course of time, become indistinguishable from your real behaviour because they are now part of exactly that behaviour, similar to the tool in the toolbox) &#8211; you reach a certain amount of success getting women to do what you want to.</p>
<p>What Hypergamy thinks about that &#8211; YOU don&#8217;t care.</p>
<p>In that moment, an emotion, &#8216;special&#8217; moment or even perhaps beta move (like sometimes buying flowers) is real &#8211; you adopt it to get what you want and go with it &#8211; one side of doublethink. AT THE SAME TIME you are of course aware (and STAY aware), what women are and what their basic wiring is as soon as they are out of control (which is all the time erverytime in our &#8216;civilization&#8217;).</p>
<p>Simple example of applying that:<br />
My LTR (who is quite ok, as far as women go these days) showers me with sex and good emotions, so I sometimes buy her flowers &#8211; she &#8216;likes&#8217; that, but of course it is a beta move without arousal. Last week, instead of dumping negative emotions with some stupid BFF or orbiter, she dumped an unwarrented amount of that on me, fiddiling around with an Iphone while doing it to &#8216;show&#8217; something.<br />
I activated doublethink and (which is a move I applied some months ago on a plate, too) smiled (feeling happy and submissive to her imperative) and casually dropped her Iphone of the balcony. This of course caused her to rescue her phone, which ment she couldn&#8217;t continue dumping emotions on me in a negative way &#8211; and broke that pattern. No rage, actually. Just apply the screwdriver to the problem.<br />
This morning, I just prepared her something to eat because she has a very important meeting today and I have some time left (total beta move/kitchen bitch?) &#8211; but I did it with balls drained and everything is fine. There will be no negative communication for at least several months.</p>
<p>DoubleThink &#8211; it&#8217;s the power of the void.<br />
Hypergamy drops on its knees, ready to serve.</p>
<p>Perhaps she leaves this moth or in ten years or I will &#8211; who knowes?<br />
The Void doesn&#8217;t care about Hypergamy, it sets you free.</p>
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		<title>By: ManPersonNumber6762</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2015/02/06/two-camps/comment-page-2/#comment-87976</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2015 01:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hypergamy is just a womans&#039; greed and laziness. Men really have no idea how base and depraved womens&#039; true nature is. Men have no idea how far and different womens&#039; thinking is compared to men. Most women will prostitute themselves in marriage, with no real feelings for the man at all. He is nothing but a disposable and replaceable utility to her.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hypergamy is just a womans&#8217; greed and laziness. Men really have no idea how base and depraved womens&#8217; true nature is. Men have no idea how far and different womens&#8217; thinking is compared to men. Most women will prostitute themselves in marriage, with no real feelings for the man at all. He is nothing but a disposable and replaceable utility to her.</p>
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		<title>By: GhostOfJefferson</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2015/02/06/two-camps/comment-page-2/#comment-87661</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2015 16:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a lame commercial.  What kind of guy drives &quot;a four door truck&quot; with a stunted, nearly useless &quot;bed&quot; that you cannot lay down a piece of sheet rock or standard sized 8 foot length 10x2&#039;s in in, let alone haul anything useful outside of a bbq grill for an officially state and corporate sanctioned &quot;tailgate party!(tm)&quot;?

Two doors, full sized bed, four wheel drive option where you have to get out and lock things in place by hand (since it actually has to pull heavy loads and not just Mom and the Kids), and if you can&#039;t haul a trailer full of horses behind it, or won&#039;t because you&#039;re carrying your entire brood and are concerned about &quot;safety&quot;, well then, screw that.  All I see in that commercial is a Prius and a larger Prius with a somewhat larger open trunk.  GPS?  4G?  Comfortable amenities like you&#039;d find in a Toyota Camry, the female care of choice?  Fuck you.

As to the actual article, yeah, it&#039;s open hypergamy and we&#039;re seeing it more and more celebrated and openly expressed.  Fuck women, fuck beta men and fuck this gay earth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a lame commercial.  What kind of guy drives &#8220;a four door truck&#8221; with a stunted, nearly useless &#8220;bed&#8221; that you cannot lay down a piece of sheet rock or standard sized 8 foot length 10&#215;2&#8217;s in in, let alone haul anything useful outside of a bbq grill for an officially state and corporate sanctioned &#8220;tailgate party!(tm)&#8221;?</p>
<p>Two doors, full sized bed, four wheel drive option where you have to get out and lock things in place by hand (since it actually has to pull heavy loads and not just Mom and the Kids), and if you can&#8217;t haul a trailer full of horses behind it, or won&#8217;t because you&#8217;re carrying your entire brood and are concerned about &#8220;safety&#8221;, well then, screw that.  All I see in that commercial is a Prius and a larger Prius with a somewhat larger open trunk.  GPS?  4G?  Comfortable amenities like you&#8217;d find in a Toyota Camry, the female care of choice?  Fuck you.</p>
<p>As to the actual article, yeah, it&#8217;s open hypergamy and we&#8217;re seeing it more and more celebrated and openly expressed.  Fuck women, fuck beta men and fuck this gay earth.</p>
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		<title>By: forgethesky</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2015/02/06/two-camps/comment-page-2/#comment-87572</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2015 04:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;They all invented strict rules, subdued women to them and enforced them. This all was abolished without understanding of WHY it existed in the first place.&quot;

Aka Chesterton&#039;s Fence. A useful concept.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They all invented strict rules, subdued women to them and enforced them. This all was abolished without understanding of WHY it existed in the first place.&#8221;</p>
<p>Aka Chesterton&#8217;s Fence. A useful concept.</p>
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		<title>By: gregg</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2015/02/06/two-camps/comment-page-2/#comment-87484</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 19:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course game IS feminine. Maculine would be - spot the woman you like, take her and fuck her. If necessary, beat your oponnents but after no man stands in your way, take her and fuck her. Men have the strenght and clarity to do this, but are no longer in position to use it. 

So they are forced to enter the women´s word of covert communication, manipulation, little lies, etc. They are forced to try to beat women at their own game. And that ain´t easy without massive experience and knowledge.

Small minority of men have the manipulation skills to excel at this...this very blogs proves this.  Others are just the tools used by women to pursue their own goals - have a serial monogamy, ride the cock carousel, use their girly power till it is the time to catch a good provider. 

If men want to win, they have to establish rules and enforce them. As a community, not individuals. In this situation, the manipulation skills of women are limited. In a very strict rules society, women have almost none power - islam. Our elders tried to subdue the power of women through religion, rituals of maturity (man has proven himslef and women were GIVEN to him), shaming tactics, etc, Thez invented strict rules, subdued women to them and enforced them. This all was abolished without understanding of WHY it existed in the first place.

In a no rule society - it is a women´s world.

Not learning about women in such society is not only stupid, it is very dangerous to say the least. It could rob men of their very property, sanity, freedom (jail), even life. 

Every single man should have the knowledge, accurate knowledge, about how women operate. It is mandatory, it shall be learnt in schools.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course game IS feminine. Maculine would be &#8211; spot the woman you like, take her and fuck her. If necessary, beat your oponnents but after no man stands in your way, take her and fuck her. Men have the strenght and clarity to do this, but are no longer in position to use it. </p>
<p>So they are forced to enter the women´s word of covert communication, manipulation, little lies, etc. They are forced to try to beat women at their own game. And that ain´t easy without massive experience and knowledge.</p>
<p>Small minority of men have the manipulation skills to excel at this&#8230;this very blogs proves this.  Others are just the tools used by women to pursue their own goals &#8211; have a serial monogamy, ride the cock carousel, use their girly power till it is the time to catch a good provider. </p>
<p>If men want to win, they have to establish rules and enforce them. As a community, not individuals. In this situation, the manipulation skills of women are limited. In a very strict rules society, women have almost none power &#8211; islam. Our elders tried to subdue the power of women through religion, rituals of maturity (man has proven himslef and women were GIVEN to him), shaming tactics, etc, Thez invented strict rules, subdued women to them and enforced them. This all was abolished without understanding of WHY it existed in the first place.</p>
<p>In a no rule society &#8211; it is a women´s world.</p>
<p>Not learning about women in such society is not only stupid, it is very dangerous to say the least. It could rob men of their very property, sanity, freedom (jail), even life. </p>
<p>Every single man should have the knowledge, accurate knowledge, about how women operate. It is mandatory, it shall be learnt in schools.</p>
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