Sexually-avoidant teenagers showing higher IQ’s makes me think it can be replicated in adults (http://waitingtillmarriage.org/study-finds-link-between-high-iq-and-waiting-on-sex/), which make sex and romantic love, while being fundamental human needs, seem more like obstructions to a greater and more consistent form of personal, technological, and cultural evolution. Where our genetic variety is diverse enough that a life around truth-seeking seems like it can exist over a life around romance and sex, even when society has already made its historical choice over which is more important.

Neither choice can really be proven right or wrong though, because the playing field for all of this in our heads, and nature is indifferent. If anything, we might just be nothing more slaves to the environment, where some of the transhumanist ideas people like me dream up or fear, relies on some form of massive trauma. But I think that the cultural and technological defiance of sex and romance is as eternally and equally viable as its acceptance, whether looked at as a form of ultimate dread, or as stopping future trauma.

I want to take this opportunity to thank you for your effort. Following Livefearless’s call, I also want to encourage other readers who have benefitted from this blog to voice your support for Rollo.

Please keep up the good work. You have made massive impact on numerous male souls. I wish you all the best in your life.

Cheers from Hong Kong

Let’s set a few things straight.
1. I came here willingly to respond to things you had either asked about me or said about me, period. I didn’t come here to have a dialogue with you about the entire constructed worldview of feminism. I owe you zero response to your points or arguments. You aren’t open to my responses anyway, as you have very clearly demonstrated (you know, since I can’t *possibly* think x, y or z). I had years of experience talking about feminism with feminists on the Internet and I’ve had enough of that. I like to keep my discussions on these subjects to real life now where I have a chance to make a difference and where it is much harder for the other person to jump from idea to idea and move the goalposts around (gang rape!!!! Denying 5 year olds education!!!! Etc) and then say I didn’t respond to their points. Instead I enjoy infecting my students and colleagues with the dangerous idea that maybe feminism isn’t in their best interests. OH NOES!!!!
2. I’m not here to defend Rollo or anybody else on this blog or to hold them to any sort of standard either. I don’t care if he is a skilled debater or not. Don’t care if he uses logical fallacies or not. Don’t care if he fisked your comment or not. Didn’t come here to debate him. I came here to respond to you about why a complementarian such as myself would get a PhD….. Which I did and you promptly ignored in favor of your own created explanation of my motives and beliefs.
3. I mentioned getting Nova’s permission to post here precisely once…. Seems to have loomed much larger in your mind though for some reason.
4. Why on earth should I be ashamed of Nova commenting on a blog that has ideas or attitudes I don’t agree with (he doesn’t agree with it all either. Shocking, I know). I do agree with Nova on what we consider to be the basics, and no, that doesn’t include him treating me badly at all. We complement each other well. He treats me with kindness and support. He doesn’t use “dread” on me which would probably crush me emotionally. But neither does he placate or worry about being “nice”. To borrow a turn of phrase from C.s. Lewis; he isn’t always “nice”, but he is a very good man.
5. I don’t think you understand at all what “the red pill man” thinks or believes (or the fact that they don’t all think or believe the same things). You just have a two dimensional caricature in your mind. Your arguments reveal that. You do not seem to understand that the so called manosphere, or where red pill men hang out on the internet, is a sort of clearing house of many ideas. There are lots of blogs out there who agree on many of the basics (BTW the basics may or may not include “game” and associated ideas) but differ greatly in their attitudes and ideas. If you wanted to debate or *gasp* learn about these ideas in a place where you won’t be treated in a manner you don’t find gentlemanly, this blog was likely not a good choice. BTW, gentlemanly behavior toward women was part of the social contract feminism destroyed, so you can thank your feminist friends for that little gift.

http://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/2013/06/turns-out-women-have-really-really-strong-sex-drives-can-men-handle-it/276598/

Going through a weird time with women. On the one hand, I get them so much better and have great times with them now, whether working or my sister or lovers. Crazy. But at the same time I’m also feeling quite offput at times by it all. Seeing how much of what’s actually happening derives from our intersexual dynamics is truly disarming. Like scales falling from my eyes. I was in Vegas all last week at CES with one of my clients and that place is a bacchanalia of sexual energy. I was watching how I reacted to it and how other men do – beautiful women scare the shit out of many men. And I found myself reflexively qualifying myself out with them in my mind, until one of the models threw me serious IOIs, But still, being in the “field’ and being present to what’s happening and what isn’t is just new and weird for me still. Remember, I’m 52 and in many ways I’m out of consideration for the vast majority of young model types so it’s also kind of sad sometimes, being invisible. I’m back to working on my fitness but still, there are limits. Sigh…

Fun as all hell though. Just being straight about what’s what and most of all, what I want and going after it is such relief. No need to feel conflicted or shamed as I did when I was younger. All of that conflictedness I felt around sexuality is gone now. It’s kind of new territory for me so I don’t know how it will play out. I’m trying to set up open poly-amorous kinds of things, but no joy yet. Still one at a time every few months. Remember, I’m also past it at 52. You young guys may want to seriously consider it. Call it open plate spinning, but women are empowered too. There is evidence of this in human history, pre-agricultural, so called “partnership living” versus “kinship living” arrangements. Women are empowered sexually to have multiple partners too, but everyone gets laid more in these setups, so, I’m hard pressed to see what the downside is. But it’s all speculative for me now.

I’m moved this way because I want to have some kind of ethos or ideal of what I’m shooting for. The Red Pill can leave me feeling a bit rudderless sometimes.

To be clear – I do not advocate men treating women badly. At all. Not with violence, not with threats, not with psychological abuse, withholding affection, or any means to exert power or controlling behaviour. I have a wife, 2 daughters, a mother, a sister, and many female friends. I want the best for them and would take extreme exception to any man who treated them so.

The problem that I, and most of the men here, had was the opposite. We observed that we treated women with too much deference – when we prioritized their desires over our own (as we would have wanted them to do for us) – we noticed that they lost respect and attraction to us. It’s not that women want to be treated badly – they don’t. But they don’t want to be in charge of the relationship, by and large. They want a man who puts his mission first, not them first – though they say they want the opposite.

When it comes to attracting men, most women know what works. Physical attractiveness, charm, emotional affirmation – all women know men like these things. Sure, some men prefer small breasted women, but the majority prefer large. Some men prefer heavy women, but most prefer a certain waist-hip ratio. Although there are individual differences between men, there are many commonalities.

But what attracts women? Do women have similar commonalities? This question has baffled men forever, because it seems that women themselves don’t know! They say they want an attractive man, but can’t agree with each other or with themselves over time who is attractive (see the recent study by Arieli et all, using the “hot or not” data). It seems that the one thing that women have in common is that they are attracted to those physical features that connote power in their societies (I can dig up the study on that, if you want, but it’s pretty obvious).

I went to professional school with hundreds of very intelligent women. With very few exceptions they paired off with men who were as/more educated or successful as themselves – whereas the men did not. The men were far more concerned with factors of physical beauty and emotional receptivity, while the women were far more concerned with similarities, provisioning ability and power – in spite of having more than enough of those things on their own. This is exactly what evo psychologists predict, and is usually true in my observation.

I have no interest in being “better” than women. I have no interest in dominating them, controlling them, keeping them down or restricting their options. At all. I am interested in attraction – obtaining and maintaining. Women use makeup, because they know what men like. Men should use soft power, confidence and humor, because that’s what women like. They should NOT try to attract women by being overly “nice”.

I’m disappointed because I thought you might actually attempt to have a dialogue with me that addressed the points I made, which you made clear you weren’t going to do with your straw man ‘but you believe all good things are from feminism and all bad things are from guys’ or some such nonsense. That is a blatant fabrication and a ridiculous assertion.

Yeah I was a little inflamed when you called me an “idiot” and a “bitch” for asking a simple question about your motivations for earning a PhD so I get where you’re coming from on being “irritated” by me. Golden rule and all.

You don’t have to enjoy debates, but at the same time, calling out WebMD as an unreliable source just shows how clearly uninitiated you are with this little blog. Rollo cites the Guardian as evidence that male and female brains are different and thus women are biologically predisposed to hypergamy and a whole slew of other traits which creates the entire basis for his arguments that men should rule over women. I mean this is scientific stuff, y’all! Not.

Let’s hold Rollo to the standard you other posters hold me and with the “logical fallacies,” too. This blog is RIFE with logical fallacies. I just wrote out a list of the 10 commandments of rational debate that Rollo posted and illustrated how he broke each commandment in his “rebuttal” to my original post. So you calling me out for using ‘logical fallacies’ is ‘really quite funny.’

Also, I have NO IDEA why you keep saying that you asked Nova’s permission to post here. I got that the first time you said it, and I thought it was pathetic then. There’s no need for you to restate it like 4 times after the fact. Are you grandstanding for the rest of these dudes, subtly trying to show me what you deem to be ‘good fiance’ behavior, or are you just saying it so I remember that you engaged in this debate against your will? I have no idea, but I honestly could not give a single fuck if you asked his permission. I would not ever under any circumstances ask my husband for permission to post on an Internet blog. You get no pat on the back from me for it.

Lastly, I am glad to be of service to you in making you look better to your mate. If my husband posted on a site like this because he agreed with its basic premise, I would find it repugnant and would be ashamed to be married to such a man. So please don’t think I’m jealous or upset at how your fiance apparently views me. I view the men here with just as much disgust and disdain. Your fiance seemed somewhat nice though, definitely one of the nicer of the lot, except when he posted your insults.

In the other article Rollo recently posted about my original post, it has really turned into a completely abhorrent show of who is the biggest and stupidest neanderthal of the bunch, and really, that’s not my scene so I won’t be going back. I literally feel slightly nauseous even thinking that such men exist on earth, much less that they are common and I may have to encounter some in my day to day life experience. I won’t be posting much if at all again (I won’t say never because you never know), but it’s a waste of my time. My husband has recommended that I stay off this blog, and like a good woman, I’m gonna listen to my man. No but really. He’s right, and I see his points. We’ll just keep the “Red Pill” man running joke, and laugh our asses off at how pathetic these men are. We pity the women that subscribe to it, to be quite honest, no offense intended to you Dr. Nova.

I mean you get the worst of both worlds — a man who respects you much less than himself, thinks you are less than he is in various ways, and then also is the opposite of gentlemanly to women (look at the most recent post about my original comment – there is not a name they haven’t called me). One good thing about classic misogynists is that many of them treated women very well. Red Pill men don’t even have that going for them. There is literally nothing that is more of a turn off than a Red Pill man. And more women think like me than you, contrary to the popular belief parroted on this blog and reinforced through confirmation bias.