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		<title>By: The Long Road Home &#124; Holistic Game</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2015/01/02/commodifying-love/comment-page-3/#comment-91503</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Long Road Home &#124; Holistic Game]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2015 03:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] expression of a man&#8217;s desire to have a woman love him unconditionally. Rollo talks about it here and here. My words are heartfelt, vulnerable, and utterly clueless. It didn&#8217;t change a damn [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] expression of a man&#8217;s desire to have a woman love him unconditionally. Rollo talks about it here and here. My words are heartfelt, vulnerable, and utterly clueless. It didn&#8217;t change a damn [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2015 19:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Before I close, I’m going to give you a bit of Red Pill hope (again). Men and women can and do love each other intensely and genuinely. They can and do see past each other’s deficiencies and their love endures.&quot;

No. This is giving women a free pass. You&#039;re subconsciously referencing the sitcom example.  In all cases where it appears that a woman has &quot;seen past [her husband&#039;s] deficiencies&quot; and their love endured, the man WAS STILL PERFORMING, at a minimum slaving away every day working and putting a roof over the family&#039;s head, food on the table, usually being a great dad to the kids.

You might say, &quot;Yeah, I didn&#039;t say otherwise.&quot;  But I&#039;m saying your quoted statement above implied that some women are able to look past the &quot;nonperformance&quot; you write about elsewhere.  Some women are able to resist the feminist onslaught today and stay married to a decent boring beta even though she&#039;s bored and unhaaaaaaaaaaaaaappy, and she&#039;ll be miserable, not love him, but yeah not ALL women initiate divorce.  But that husband is &quot;performing&quot; more than the miserable wife ever does.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Before I close, I’m going to give you a bit of Red Pill hope (again). Men and women can and do love each other intensely and genuinely. They can and do see past each other’s deficiencies and their love endures.&#8221;</p>
<p>No. This is giving women a free pass. You&#8217;re subconsciously referencing the sitcom example.  In all cases where it appears that a woman has &#8220;seen past [her husband&#8217;s] deficiencies&#8221; and their love endured, the man WAS STILL PERFORMING, at a minimum slaving away every day working and putting a roof over the family&#8217;s head, food on the table, usually being a great dad to the kids.</p>
<p>You might say, &#8220;Yeah, I didn&#8217;t say otherwise.&#8221;  But I&#8217;m saying your quoted statement above implied that some women are able to look past the &#8220;nonperformance&#8221; you write about elsewhere.  Some women are able to resist the feminist onslaught today and stay married to a decent boring beta even though she&#8217;s bored and unhaaaaaaaaaaaaaappy, and she&#8217;ll be miserable, not love him, but yeah not ALL women initiate divorce.  But that husband is &#8220;performing&#8221; more than the miserable wife ever does.</p>
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		<title>By: Commodifying Love &#124; Neoreactive</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Commodifying Love &#124; Neoreactive]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2015 05:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Robert S</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2015/01/02/commodifying-love/comment-page-3/#comment-79287</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2015 01:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The best representation I know of Mans idealistic love can be found within Ted Hawkins song, &#039;Crystal Chandelier&#039;:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6jYbchSWzs


&quot;...make sure this is what you want, while you&#039;re still free ... because all I have to offer you is me ... there&#039;ll be no mansion waiting for you on the hill ... everything I have is standing here in front of you to see ...&quot;

Anyone care to offer a feminine critique of this song?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best representation I know of Mans idealistic love can be found within Ted Hawkins song, &#8216;Crystal Chandelier':<br />
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<p>&#8220;&#8230;make sure this is what you want, while you&#8217;re still free &#8230; because all I have to offer you is me &#8230; there&#8217;ll be no mansion waiting for you on the hill &#8230; everything I have is standing here in front of you to see &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyone care to offer a feminine critique of this song?</p>
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		<title>By: Atticus</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2015/01/02/commodifying-love/comment-page-3/#comment-79163</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Atticus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2015 17:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@xxxxxxxxxx   Sorry, but a woman uses her conditional love and acceptance in a selfish sense ( in her own interest), or in a more altrusitic way (in in the interest of her children, community and even in the interest of the man himself). As a mother, I certainly catch myself withholding love from my sons if they did not try to push or better themselves.
I would much much rather that my sons hate my guts but survive and thrive, rather than to wallow in my motherly love while dying in a ditch.

Thank God I am not your son.   By some twisted leap of logic, you think withholding love will keep your sons from dying in a ditch?    Men may except this from their wives, but not their mom?    Jesus.  Do yourself and your sons a favor and love them always; push them but love them.

&quot;A woman uses her conditional love and acceptance in a selfish sense&quot;.   That is not love.   

Between this and the ugly Jenine Bufi &quot;How I know I&#039;ll Break Your Heart&quot;, I become more certain that women are incapable of love.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@xxxxxxxxxx   Sorry, but a woman uses her conditional love and acceptance in a selfish sense ( in her own interest), or in a more altrusitic way (in in the interest of her children, community and even in the interest of the man himself). As a mother, I certainly catch myself withholding love from my sons if they did not try to push or better themselves.<br />
I would much much rather that my sons hate my guts but survive and thrive, rather than to wallow in my motherly love while dying in a ditch.</p>
<p>Thank God I am not your son.   By some twisted leap of logic, you think withholding love will keep your sons from dying in a ditch?    Men may except this from their wives, but not their mom?    Jesus.  Do yourself and your sons a favor and love them always; push them but love them.</p>
<p>&#8220;A woman uses her conditional love and acceptance in a selfish sense&#8221;.   That is not love.   </p>
<p>Between this and the ugly Jenine Bufi &#8220;How I know I&#8217;ll Break Your Heart&#8221;, I become more certain that women are incapable of love.</p>
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		<title>By: M Simon</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2015 23:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re my  

M Simon	
January 4th, 2015 at 4:43 pm 

The story is &quot;Pilgrimage to Earth&quot; also &quot;Love Inc.&quot; by Robert Sheckley.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re my  </p>
<p>M Simon<br />
January 4th, 2015 at 4:43 pm </p>
<p>The story is &#8220;Pilgrimage to Earth&#8221; also &#8220;Love Inc.&#8221; by Robert Sheckley.</p>
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		<title>By: Roby</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2015 13:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[correction:

Winning strategies (continuation):

– Mixed – You’re a politician that pretends to adapt to other’s frames, pretending to qualify. Dangerous territory, use it at your own risk. If you are great on this, Politics wait for you.

Loosing strategy:

– Mixed – You’re a needy beta that adapts to other’s frames, trying to qualify all the time. I was here (and sometimes) still slide to here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correction:</p>
<p>Winning strategies (continuation):</p>
<p>– Mixed – You’re a politician that pretends to adapt to other’s frames, pretending to qualify. Dangerous territory, use it at your own risk. If you are great on this, Politics wait for you.</p>
<p>Loosing strategy:</p>
<p>– Mixed – You’re a needy beta that adapts to other’s frames, trying to qualify all the time. I was here (and sometimes) still slide to here.</p>
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		<title>By: Roby</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2015 13:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@glenn

Still about chivalry. Chivalry is &lt;em&gt;optional&lt;/em&gt; but for recovering betas can be a easier implementing winning strategy, once they need to make less adaptations on their current mindset.

Winning strategies:

- You don&#039;t give a shit - The girl sees you as dominant, you are above from what the others think of you. Alpha sliding to jerk.

- You are (conditionally) chivalrous - The girl sees you as social (smart) but still dominant once you&#039;ll not make it unconditionally and NEVER leaving your frame. Not afraid to be a jerk if needed. True alpha male mind set in my opinion. Smart betas (most readers here) can edge their intelligence.

- Mixed - You&#039;re a needy beta that adapts to other&#039;s frames, trying to qualify all the time. I was here (and sometimes) still slide to here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@glenn</p>
<p>Still about chivalry. Chivalry is <em>optional</em> but for recovering betas can be a easier implementing winning strategy, once they need to make less adaptations on their current mindset.</p>
<p>Winning strategies:</p>
<p>&#8211; You don&#8217;t give a shit &#8211; The girl sees you as dominant, you are above from what the others think of you. Alpha sliding to jerk.</p>
<p>&#8211; You are (conditionally) chivalrous &#8211; The girl sees you as social (smart) but still dominant once you&#8217;ll not make it unconditionally and NEVER leaving your frame. Not afraid to be a jerk if needed. True alpha male mind set in my opinion. Smart betas (most readers here) can edge their intelligence.</p>
<p>&#8211; Mixed &#8211; You&#8217;re a needy beta that adapts to other&#8217;s frames, trying to qualify all the time. I was here (and sometimes) still slide to here.</p>
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