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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2014/12/17/estrus/comment-page-4/#comment-87839</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2015 13:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sharkfinnsoup</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2014/12/17/estrus/comment-page-4/#comment-84302</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2015 19:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rollo Tomassi - If I ran a Psychology department at a university, I would invite you to give a colloquium.  Your ability to link scientific analysis with female behaviour and sexual strategy makes some of the very best reading available for those who seek truths and come back for more to remind themselves - in case we slip in a moment of weakness. 
There are many women on oral contraceptives that affect hormonal levels. It would be interesting to see what observations you have on its effects and consequences on the female multiple sexual strategy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rollo Tomassi &#8211; If I ran a Psychology department at a university, I would invite you to give a colloquium.  Your ability to link scientific analysis with female behaviour and sexual strategy makes some of the very best reading available for those who seek truths and come back for more to remind themselves &#8211; in case we slip in a moment of weakness.<br />
There are many women on oral contraceptives that affect hormonal levels. It would be interesting to see what observations you have on its effects and consequences on the female multiple sexual strategy.</p>
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		<title>By: Estrus &#124; Neoreactive</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2014/12/17/estrus/comment-page-4/#comment-81011</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Estrus &#124; Neoreactive]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2015 06:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Acing the Test &#124;</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2014/12/17/estrus/comment-page-4/#comment-80826</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Acing the Test &#124;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2015 19:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] (like a club) who are delivering active shit test are likely at the ovulation point of their Estrus phase – adjust your Game (and birth control [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] (like a club) who are delivering active shit test are likely at the ovulation point of their Estrus phase – adjust your Game (and birth control [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: The Remedial Red Pill &#124;</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2014/12/17/estrus/comment-page-4/#comment-80189</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Remedial Red Pill &#124;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2015 20:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] we don&#8217;t even need those studies to grasp this most basic of human truths – we already know that men and women&#8217;s biochemistry and endocrinology work and affect their resp&#8230;. Whether it&#8217;s the dominant presence of estrogen, progesterone and oxytocin in women or the [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] we don&#8217;t even need those studies to grasp this most basic of human truths – we already know that men and women&#8217;s biochemistry and endocrinology work and affect their resp&#8230;. Whether it&#8217;s the dominant presence of estrogen, progesterone and oxytocin in women or the [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Estrus</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2014/12/17/estrus/comment-page-4/#comment-78496</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Estrus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2015 10:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Estrus [&#8230;]]]></description>
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		<title>By: forgethesky</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2014/12/17/estrus/comment-page-4/#comment-76013</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[forgethesky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2014 18:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Xsplat:  &quot;In fact I hereby propose a new definition of what makes a man alpha:

It is how he is treated.&quot;

As others have noted this is a growing idea here. It kinda reminds me, as a random example, of how CS Lewis proposed evaluating what was literature or not based upon what sorts of reading and readers it attracted and inspired, rather than by bias-filled definitions that reflected more the preferences of the critic than the merit of individual works. 

&quot;Yes, but lately he seems to imply that men can fooled into the believing in the girlfriend experience when what is “really” happening is negotiated desire. 
....
I’m saying we don’t have to try to read minds. All that matters is the outward observable actions.&quot;

I think there&#039;s some tension here because, although you have seen how women can truly treat men they adore, most men have not. Your descriptions have been very eye-opening to me, for one; I wouldn&#039;t have thought the things you describe are possible, because the actions you use to gain a woman&#039;s devotion are taboo and sometimes literally illegal here in the west. I would have never known. So the typical danger for a man is to mistake very lukewarm signals from his woman as being positive, to accept mediocre affection levels as normal, and to think the beta traits he is expressing are responsible for what affection he does receive. 

So I think Rollo is not so much denying the real complexity of things, as he is presenting preferentially the aspects of reality often hidden or denied to blue-pill men. 

It can be messy work unplugging other men, as has been noted before. Tolerating a lot of unproductive bitching and overcompensating in the form of all-or-nothing thinking is part of that. A lot of the value I find in the comments at my stage, easing into accepting a new paradigm, come from reading comments from men like you that incorporate redpill understanding into a cohesive understanding and worldview. (The recent post &#039;A New Hope&#039; was excellent for this as well.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Xsplat:  &#8220;In fact I hereby propose a new definition of what makes a man alpha:</p>
<p>It is how he is treated.&#8221;</p>
<p>As others have noted this is a growing idea here. It kinda reminds me, as a random example, of how CS Lewis proposed evaluating what was literature or not based upon what sorts of reading and readers it attracted and inspired, rather than by bias-filled definitions that reflected more the preferences of the critic than the merit of individual works. </p>
<p>&#8220;Yes, but lately he seems to imply that men can fooled into the believing in the girlfriend experience when what is “really” happening is negotiated desire.<br />
&#8230;.<br />
I’m saying we don’t have to try to read minds. All that matters is the outward observable actions.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think there&#8217;s some tension here because, although you have seen how women can truly treat men they adore, most men have not. Your descriptions have been very eye-opening to me, for one; I wouldn&#8217;t have thought the things you describe are possible, because the actions you use to gain a woman&#8217;s devotion are taboo and sometimes literally illegal here in the west. I would have never known. So the typical danger for a man is to mistake very lukewarm signals from his woman as being positive, to accept mediocre affection levels as normal, and to think the beta traits he is expressing are responsible for what affection he does receive. </p>
<p>So I think Rollo is not so much denying the real complexity of things, as he is presenting preferentially the aspects of reality often hidden or denied to blue-pill men. </p>
<p>It can be messy work unplugging other men, as has been noted before. Tolerating a lot of unproductive bitching and overcompensating in the form of all-or-nothing thinking is part of that. A lot of the value I find in the comments at my stage, easing into accepting a new paradigm, come from reading comments from men like you that incorporate redpill understanding into a cohesive understanding and worldview. (The recent post &#8216;A New Hope&#8217; was excellent for this as well.)</p>
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		<title>By: forgethesky</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2014 18:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Roebling, the original post makes a similar warning, so no worries. Individual readers may always fail at reading comprehension of course, but the OP characterized his thoughts as extrapolations the original researchers may not agree with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Roebling, the original post makes a similar warning, so no worries. Individual readers may always fail at reading comprehension of course, but the OP characterized his thoughts as extrapolations the original researchers may not agree with.</p>
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