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		<title>By: alcheringa</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2014/05/27/the-severing/comment-page-2/#comment-46512</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alcheringa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2014 03:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have your own wave lengths, powerful and disruptive.

Oh...... the transitory nature of human affairs.

You are gems, each and every one of you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have your own wave lengths, powerful and disruptive.</p>
<p>Oh&#8230;&#8230; the transitory nature of human affairs.</p>
<p>You are gems, each and every one of you.</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;In My Tribe&#8221;: Common Ground Among MGTOW, MHRA, &#38; Game Theory in a Post-Rodger Discourse</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#8220;In My Tribe&#8221;: Common Ground Among MGTOW, MHRA, &#38; Game Theory in a Post-Rodger Discourse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2014 14:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Rationale Male, married and himself a sometime-critic of  PickUp Artist seminar and DVD pimps,  recently discussed where his approach differs against the backdrop of the Rodger [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Rationale Male, married and himself a sometime-critic of  PickUp Artist seminar and DVD pimps,  recently discussed where his approach differs against the backdrop of the Rodger [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: JenkPac Shakur</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2014/05/27/the-severing/comment-page-2/#comment-44335</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JenkPac Shakur]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2014 00:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Elliot Rodger didn&#039;t do what he did out of a feeling of entitlement...at least not consciously...he was simply operating on a mentality he was programmed with by liberal egalitarians and feminists growing up which says if you dress nice, act nice (in a wussy wimpy beta male chivalrous sense) and be a productive go getter type women will naturally swoon over you and give themselves to you. Elliot believed their bullshit and it backfired on him and now the feminists and liberals are crying that he was &quot;entitled&quot; when it was they who gave him this mindset of entitlement to begin with. No one ever framed it as &quot;entitlement&quot; to him when he was alive. He simply took it as the world&#039;s natural way of being as told by the liberals and their radfem allies: ie do this, do that and women will be sure to reciprocate just &quot;have faith&quot; and running with that mindset of: &quot;I give you something/provide a certain way of being about myself ie supreme gentlmeman/nicely dressed/well groomed/well mannered&quot; &quot;You give me something in return ie love, companionship, validation of my worth as a man and sex&quot; etc Elliot couldn&#039;t square the peg of the advice not working in reality and proceeded to &quot;go off the reservation&quot; and now unsurprisingly the radfems/liberal egalitarians throw him under the bus not wanting to claim the monster THEY created with their &quot;pretty lies&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elliot Rodger didn&#8217;t do what he did out of a feeling of entitlement&#8230;at least not consciously&#8230;he was simply operating on a mentality he was programmed with by liberal egalitarians and feminists growing up which says if you dress nice, act nice (in a wussy wimpy beta male chivalrous sense) and be a productive go getter type women will naturally swoon over you and give themselves to you. Elliot believed their bullshit and it backfired on him and now the feminists and liberals are crying that he was &#8220;entitled&#8221; when it was they who gave him this mindset of entitlement to begin with. No one ever framed it as &#8220;entitlement&#8221; to him when he was alive. He simply took it as the world&#8217;s natural way of being as told by the liberals and their radfem allies: ie do this, do that and women will be sure to reciprocate just &#8220;have faith&#8221; and running with that mindset of: &#8220;I give you something/provide a certain way of being about myself ie supreme gentlmeman/nicely dressed/well groomed/well mannered&#8221; &#8220;You give me something in return ie love, companionship, validation of my worth as a man and sex&#8221; etc Elliot couldn&#8217;t square the peg of the advice not working in reality and proceeded to &#8220;go off the reservation&#8221; and now unsurprisingly the radfems/liberal egalitarians throw him under the bus not wanting to claim the monster THEY created with their &#8220;pretty lies&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Pre-Retiree</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2014/05/27/the-severing/comment-page-2/#comment-43568</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pre-Retiree]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2014 02:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Imagine for a moment I had the temerity to presume that I know exactly what a 60 year old reader like bbb experiences in his personal life with a post-menopausal wife.&quot;

62 year old here.  I happened across your blog because I googled something similar to the above sentence.  I&#039;ve been married for 35 years and I love my wife but we&#039;re not in love the way we used to be.  To be blunt I&#039;m not nearly as sexually attracted to her as I was just 5 years ago even.  She&#039;s fit and attractive enough for her age, and I often get compliments on how young and handsome I look for my age.  We both eat right and exercise regularly.  The thing is, I retire in a few years and as all us oldies are being phased out through retirement, every year one or two new employees are brought on board and many of them are women and a few have openly flirted with me.  I&#039;ve flirted back.  

As I&#039;m a man of my word I have not let things get beyond flirting nor would I ever. But I am toying with the idea of suggesting to my wife that we transition from our current monogamous model of marriage to an open one.  I would have never considered such a thing even 10 year ago, the thought wouldn&#039;t have even entered my mine, but being post menopausal there is no risk of her becoming pregnant and quite frankly, I couldn&#039;t care less if men find her attractive or if she&#039;s into them anymore.   What loss would it be to me if she also had a fling?  

I don&#039;t know.  I think monogamy is a tad ridiculous at our age.  There&#039;s nothing to be jealous over anymore so why not just have some guilt free fun?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Imagine for a moment I had the temerity to presume that I know exactly what a 60 year old reader like bbb experiences in his personal life with a post-menopausal wife.&#8221;</p>
<p>62 year old here.  I happened across your blog because I googled something similar to the above sentence.  I&#8217;ve been married for 35 years and I love my wife but we&#8217;re not in love the way we used to be.  To be blunt I&#8217;m not nearly as sexually attracted to her as I was just 5 years ago even.  She&#8217;s fit and attractive enough for her age, and I often get compliments on how young and handsome I look for my age.  We both eat right and exercise regularly.  The thing is, I retire in a few years and as all us oldies are being phased out through retirement, every year one or two new employees are brought on board and many of them are women and a few have openly flirted with me.  I&#8217;ve flirted back.  </p>
<p>As I&#8217;m a man of my word I have not let things get beyond flirting nor would I ever. But I am toying with the idea of suggesting to my wife that we transition from our current monogamous model of marriage to an open one.  I would have never considered such a thing even 10 year ago, the thought wouldn&#8217;t have even entered my mine, but being post menopausal there is no risk of her becoming pregnant and quite frankly, I couldn&#8217;t care less if men find her attractive or if she&#8217;s into them anymore.   What loss would it be to me if she also had a fling?  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know.  I think monogamy is a tad ridiculous at our age.  There&#8217;s nothing to be jealous over anymore so why not just have some guilt free fun?</p>
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		<title>By: Rollo Tomassi</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2014/05/27/the-severing/comment-page-2/#comment-43108</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rollo Tomassi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2014 22:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this Emerald.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this Emerald.</p>
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		<title>By: Emerald Curtain</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2014/05/27/the-severing/comment-page-2/#comment-43105</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emerald Curtain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2014 22:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is my first time posting here on RM, I know my comment will be TL:DR for most but I’d really like to get this off my chest.  I’ve been catching up slowly on your material Rollo- I was reading through &#039;Casualties&#039; when the news from Isla Vista broke.  To be honest with myself, with the wrong brain chemicals when I was younger, I also could&#039;ve ended up in the same dark self-imposed vacuum of hate as Elliot.
Finding blogs like yours hasn&#039;t &#039;saved&#039; my life necessarily, but it&#039;s brought incredible relief with the clarity you offer.  An opportunity to learn how to develop and improve myself mentally as a Man, away from  the horseshit my male-hating mom filled my head with from infancy.  Having a weak, subdued workaholic father didn&#039;t help.
I came floundering into the manosphere a few years ago- troubled by the same questions many guys I know are these days- ‘Why are things like this… when I’m respectful and kind to her?  And yet she seems to still be mesmerized by the asshole she was with before me who screwed other women under her own roof?’

For me, Red Pill awareness has built a bridge across the canyon of cognitive dissonance between the way I was raised (‘BE NICE!’), and my life-long observations of the ways humans actually relate to one another. 
It’s also made a lot more sense out of the dynamics I observed in my family growing up -  My grandfather died a withered, beat-down, pathetic emasculated shell.  An entire life spent under derisively hateful, condescending lamentations for the crime of completely supporting my Grandma, providing her several beautiful children in relative comfort.  A woman who never had to work a day in her life once married and- to this day- still pines for the Ace who was crumpled in an aluminum ball somewhere Over There before she married my granddad.

I was compelled to respond to your post here b/c my wife has recently started glomping onto the feminist drivel that’s been slinging around after Isla Vista, yesterday she was referencing some FB post she saw linking MRA sites to mass casualty events.  Nevermind the fact that Elliot appears to have been about the least masculine person you could imagine, and had immersed himself in a community actively despising PUA and players.

And I was concerned about that linkage happening long before this tragedy- It can be very easy to get lost in the bitterness of mainstream pickup TRP blogs, and IMO the blatant racism &amp; homophobia in some do much more harm than the good that can come from helping men arrive at a clearer understanding of themselves.  

I’m struggling to figure out what I’m going to say to my wife the next time she brings this kind of stuff up. The fact that I could be a fucking poster-boy for a lot of the material you discuss.  My ingrained beta behaviours up to this point have lead to a one-sided relationship I’ve allowed to develop with her.  A woman who at one point when dating said she ‘loved!’ giving head, not that I’d ever know that now.  
It seems sorrowfully way too late for me now to recognize that I should’ve run screaming the other direction when she’d complimented me for being different than the other guys she ‘used to like’.  So for now, I just laugh at her and mentally hit the highway with a backpack these days when she mentions for the thousandth time how ‘hot’ it is when I do the dishes. 

To close, I appreciate you for the work you are doing.  I still have a long way to go though in figuring out how to maintain sanity knowing what I’ve always suspected deep down- that I’ll never, ever be rewarded for being a responsible and good person, the way I was promised by those I trusted most as a child. 

The most important thing to me, at this point, is to raise my son differently.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is my first time posting here on RM, I know my comment will be TL:DR for most but I’d really like to get this off my chest.  I’ve been catching up slowly on your material Rollo- I was reading through &#8216;Casualties&#8217; when the news from Isla Vista broke.  To be honest with myself, with the wrong brain chemicals when I was younger, I also could&#8217;ve ended up in the same dark self-imposed vacuum of hate as Elliot.<br />
Finding blogs like yours hasn&#8217;t &#8216;saved&#8217; my life necessarily, but it&#8217;s brought incredible relief with the clarity you offer.  An opportunity to learn how to develop and improve myself mentally as a Man, away from  the horseshit my male-hating mom filled my head with from infancy.  Having a weak, subdued workaholic father didn&#8217;t help.<br />
I came floundering into the manosphere a few years ago- troubled by the same questions many guys I know are these days- ‘Why are things like this… when I’m respectful and kind to her?  And yet she seems to still be mesmerized by the asshole she was with before me who screwed other women under her own roof?’</p>
<p>For me, Red Pill awareness has built a bridge across the canyon of cognitive dissonance between the way I was raised (‘BE NICE!’), and my life-long observations of the ways humans actually relate to one another.<br />
It’s also made a lot more sense out of the dynamics I observed in my family growing up &#8211;  My grandfather died a withered, beat-down, pathetic emasculated shell.  An entire life spent under derisively hateful, condescending lamentations for the crime of completely supporting my Grandma, providing her several beautiful children in relative comfort.  A woman who never had to work a day in her life once married and- to this day- still pines for the Ace who was crumpled in an aluminum ball somewhere Over There before she married my granddad.</p>
<p>I was compelled to respond to your post here b/c my wife has recently started glomping onto the feminist drivel that’s been slinging around after Isla Vista, yesterday she was referencing some FB post she saw linking MRA sites to mass casualty events.  Nevermind the fact that Elliot appears to have been about the least masculine person you could imagine, and had immersed himself in a community actively despising PUA and players.</p>
<p>And I was concerned about that linkage happening long before this tragedy- It can be very easy to get lost in the bitterness of mainstream pickup TRP blogs, and IMO the blatant racism &amp; homophobia in some do much more harm than the good that can come from helping men arrive at a clearer understanding of themselves.  </p>
<p>I’m struggling to figure out what I’m going to say to my wife the next time she brings this kind of stuff up. The fact that I could be a fucking poster-boy for a lot of the material you discuss.  My ingrained beta behaviours up to this point have lead to a one-sided relationship I’ve allowed to develop with her.  A woman who at one point when dating said she ‘loved!’ giving head, not that I’d ever know that now.<br />
It seems sorrowfully way too late for me now to recognize that I should’ve run screaming the other direction when she’d complimented me for being different than the other guys she ‘used to like’.  So for now, I just laugh at her and mentally hit the highway with a backpack these days when she mentions for the thousandth time how ‘hot’ it is when I do the dishes. </p>
<p>To close, I appreciate you for the work you are doing.  I still have a long way to go though in figuring out how to maintain sanity knowing what I’ve always suspected deep down- that I’ll never, ever be rewarded for being a responsible and good person, the way I was promised by those I trusted most as a child. </p>
<p>The most important thing to me, at this point, is to raise my son differently.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay X</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2014/05/27/the-severing/comment-page-2/#comment-42686</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay X]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2014 14:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Rollo &quot;I actually cite many sociological and psychological studies in my book and my posts&quot;

I&#039;ve read pretty much everything you have written on here,  including your book, very rarely is there a source. Your book has no reference section or footnotes. I just went through all of Best of Year One and couldn&#039;t find a single link or reference to an established study published in a peer reviewed journal. A couple of established theories were referenced like Social Matching Theory and Stockholm syndrome, and you briefly mentioned Dr Martie Hasselton, but that&#039;s it.

I think it&#039;s better to have evidence that is a bit contestable than no evidence at all, but in my limited research I consistently come across peer reviewed research that would back up what you say. As I said, it&#039;s the one thing I can&#039;t back you up on, which is a shame because I&#039;d love to have a one stop shop I can link people to that will tightly, logically and scientifically make the points that you do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rollo &#8220;I actually cite many sociological and psychological studies in my book and my posts&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read pretty much everything you have written on here,  including your book, very rarely is there a source. Your book has no reference section or footnotes. I just went through all of Best of Year One and couldn&#8217;t find a single link or reference to an established study published in a peer reviewed journal. A couple of established theories were referenced like Social Matching Theory and Stockholm syndrome, and you briefly mentioned Dr Martie Hasselton, but that&#8217;s it.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s better to have evidence that is a bit contestable than no evidence at all, but in my limited research I consistently come across peer reviewed research that would back up what you say. As I said, it&#8217;s the one thing I can&#8217;t back you up on, which is a shame because I&#8217;d love to have a one stop shop I can link people to that will tightly, logically and scientifically make the points that you do.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2014/05/27/the-severing/comment-page-2/#comment-42634</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2014 02:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Softek  - get a grip on yourself man... it&#039;s easier said than done sure... but at one point or another you have to accept that fact that no one really gives a fuck about you.... so you have to take the same attitude.... 

this might sound strange i know, but essentially - just stop caring.... embrace the dark shadow that&#039;s hanging over you.... find it and absorb it.... get out there and do something with yourself... anything and just get on with it... no one really cares that much .... no one is going to bite you for trying.... no one is out to get you... encouragement will only come once you pass the threshold of being valid in some way... 

listen to this.... i am sure your situation is nothing like as tough as this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywuse55qU2A]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Softek  &#8211; get a grip on yourself man&#8230; it&#8217;s easier said than done sure&#8230; but at one point or another you have to accept that fact that no one really gives a fuck about you&#8230;. so you have to take the same attitude&#8230;. </p>
<p>this might sound strange i know, but essentially &#8211; just stop caring&#8230;. embrace the dark shadow that&#8217;s hanging over you&#8230;. find it and absorb it&#8230;. get out there and do something with yourself&#8230; anything and just get on with it&#8230; no one really cares that much &#8230;. no one is going to bite you for trying&#8230;. no one is out to get you&#8230; encouragement will only come once you pass the threshold of being valid in some way&#8230; </p>
<p>listen to this&#8230;. i am sure your situation is nothing like as tough as this</p>
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