Alas, kick these women to the curb instantly. They are just playing the alpha fucks, beta bucks game with you as the beta. Though you have been sexually been kicked to the curb, delete her from every platform you have her on (facebook, twitter, instagram, etc.)

Women who are interested in you will show you they want you. If a female is playing games, has trust issues, or makes excuses, tell her to fuck off and delete her.

It really is that clear cut and dry. It’s time men stop putting up with female bullshit.

Thanks for that. Very refreshing to read. I find the most empowering (and difficult) reminder to myself in the whole redpill swallowing experience is that as men we are completely free to lead the lives and partake in relationships we choose. I know logically that my freedom lies in the simple pursuit of doing what I choose to do, meaning, experience as many relationships as possible until one may or may not strike me in a more durably fulfilling way. I have no idea who that women will be, but like you said, I know for certain that she will have to make an amazing offer that fits with my lifestyle. I think friendzoning women is a tremendous way to set that frame. Women are so used to having men chase them for tail and do everything they can to get it, that when a man can comfortably and confidently turn it down because it’s just not right for them at the moment – its a major glitch in that feminine matrix. How do they fix it? By trying to correct it, ie. chasing.

Perfect example from Wolf of Wall Street (He fucks her within the hour)

I happen to believe (from hard experience) that all men should friend zone all women. Considering what a man has to give up from his life to make room for a woman to enter it, she should be making him an offer that he isn’t going to want to refuse. But the offer itself must be accompanied by trust that she will live up to her word, something that isn’t going to happen just because she says it will. The necessary trust is earned, and entitled women aren’t going to go through the effort no matter what they claim. She will have to walk her talk before a man should ever begin to alter his lifestyle to accommodate her. She will have to have invested something of herself instead of just taking from him.

I’d love @Rollo’s perspective on this:

What I’m very interested in, is how this dynamic works with a Male to Female application. I haven’t read (perhaps I missed it) any comments here about the dynamic of a Male putting a female in the friend zone. I realize that there is no true benefit here for a man, but I have experimented with this for the hell of it and I have drastically flipped around women’s desire towards me.

Example: I had a gf of 2 years who I broke up with. She was devastated. After about 4 months of seeing other women and no contact I reached out to her and again. I went super beta (after alpha widowing her) and expressed that I missed her, still loved her, bla bla bla. She really wanted to see me again and we got back into a relationship quickly. She never quite trusted me in the ensuing months (obviously) and soon after she moved to a new city. We agreed to let go of the relationship because LDR was not desirable. She said hoped we could try again when she moved back in 2.5 years.

She quickly made a new BF and told me about it. She then tried to friend zone me, made it clear that sex was NOT an option. I went along with it like I was the one friendzoning her and I could tell that her reaction to this was puzzled. I stopped contacting her and she remained in touch with me. The less available I became the more she reached out to me. Then I saw her at a party and she told me she really wanted to sleep with me that night. I told her it wasn’t a good idea, that I respected her new relationship and that I was seeing new people and didn’t want to complicate things in our lives. I have since received 3 more of those sexual offers over 1.5 years, although they have become less direct. I’ve responded to each one that same. I agree that there’s still something between us, but I’m seeing someone and since our circumstance hasn’t changed, I’m not interested in getting involved with anything.

My sexual rejections were fascinating. I got a lot of apologies for them and justification each time, essentially making her not responsible for any intent. Anyways, she’s been with the same bf for over 2 years now and she has never gone more than 3 weeks without reaching out to me. I have almost never reached out to her. She still hears about me all of the time as we share a close group of friends.

This was actually something I read from Roissy. When you get friendzoned, just act like they were always in your friendzone.

Quote from the heartiste blog:

“You are the friend, and she is in your friendzone. You are the alpha male, and she is a contestant for a slot in your harem. You are the doer, the creator, the lover, and she is the appreciator of your masculine vitality, the very vitality that women everywhere secretly envy and wish for themselves. That means, she exists to entertain you. She will enjoy your time when you have time to spare. She is your toy, not the other way around.
Remember this. Now you have inner game. You have the attitude. The attitude will infuse your arteries like rivulets of mutant DNA, transforming you from needy beta to alluring alpha. She’s a strange duck, so full of herself, but you’ll play along. You like to have fun. So you tease her. And you taunt her. And you dismiss her when she tries to angle you as the eunuch lump she used to dump all her gripes on. “So let me tell you about this guy who…” Sssshhhh… be quiet, socially awkward attention whore penguin. Did you know you have funny looking feet? What’s that? Still blabbering about this other guy? Thanks for the medical update on the condition of your vagina. So hot, so attractive. No wonder you’re still single.
Do you see, reader? Have you been darkly enlightened? Then go forth, and recreate. And return here when you have something uplifting to tell us all.”

Interesting stuff. I’d love to hear other people’s input and experiences with this side of it.

We feel cheated because we’re willing to bend over backwards and do whatever it takes to get women to ‘love’ us. We want affection and sex and loyalty and we believe that if we’re nice and good and communicate well — i.e., do all the things mainstream feminist media tells us we as men should do — we’ll get it.

Eliot Roger is an extreme example of the frustration every AFC feels. And the root of the problem is the belief that “If I do this, then I will get that,” which leads to doing “this” and never getting “that” — and then getting very angry when you feel like you’ve been gypped.

Material wealth is ‘supposed’ to attract women, good looks are ‘supposed’ to attract women. It isn’t completely out of line to get angry if you have money and good looks and aren’t getting any women.

I don’t really see it as an “entitlement” mentality, even though it is. What I mean is that it’s the sheer frustration of not getting any sex or affection or even attention from women due to an AFC mindset that’s prompting all of those beliefs.

“I’m doing everything right, and I *even* have more than the average guy of what everyone says women want: good looks, money, nice and polite personality. What the fuck? All I want is sex and attention! Why is that asking so much? Fuck all of you!”

I can relate a lot to what he said about everyone else having sex and fun and enjoying themselves, and feeling bitter about that. Even if it’s an immature response, it is really fucking frustrating when it feels like everyone in the world but you is having sex and fun at least to some extent, and it’s supposed to be so natural and easy, and yet you’re out in the weeds completely incapable of figuring out how to get any of it.

Game is more important than looks and money. I’ve been a failure my whole life with women and I have very good looks — I’ve had plenty of girls tell me that I’m very attractive and that they couldn’t believe I never had a girlfriend. And yet I still have never had a girlfriend and it seems like it’s impossible for me to get laid. Riddle me that.

Game has proven to overcome bad looks and a lack of money. A lack of game has proven to sabotage even very good looks and loads of money. I know firsthand that if you really have no idea what you’re doing and have zero game, you can and will fuck up opportunities with every girl you meet no matter how initially attracted to you they are. I’ve done it my whole life.

The hardest part is coping with the pain of that entitlement mentality: that you’ve jumped through all the hoops they told you to jump through, and you’re getting less than everyone else. You feel entitled to sex and affection and attention because the mass media has TOLD YOU that if you do x, y, and z, you’ll get it.

For all the ranting and raving feminists do about ‘rape culture’ and ‘respecting’ women and ‘treating them as equals,’ women are still fucking all the guys who IGNORE these complaints completely. They get into abusive relationships and then blame the guy abusing them, they get into relationships with the ‘bad boys’ that pump and dump them and then complain about getting pumped and dumped.

And then when AFC Joe is in the corner being their talk therapist the whole time, he gets the “I wish I could find a guy like you” line. That’s enough to piss off the pope.

My own sister complained that her ex-boyfriend, a very attractive, athletic/muscular and hard-working guy she was going out with for several years, who is now making around $100K a year, wasn’t “romantic enough” and broke up with him, and is now dating some weasel that reminds me of Eddie Hascal, who’s also going out with two other girls.

So understandably, men who are spoon-fed this BS from day one will be very angry when they do everything they were supposed to do to get love and attention, and end up with a big handful of absolutely nothing.

The frustration with women comes from believing that they SHOULD react in a certain way, and realizing that they don’t. I was talking to a die-hard AFC guy not too long ago that kept repeating, “Women need to change.”

He was so pissed off that his AFC beta-game wasn’t working, he had no motivation to change himself, and the very idea of that only made him angry because it implied that it was okay for women to be the way they are.

The reality is that women have been and always will be the way they are. And if you want to have success with them, you have to change your attitude.

I’m not happy about it, and I’ve had way worse “luck” with women than anyone else I’ve met.

So to me…if I can consider changing my attitude, and work on myself despite everything I’ve been through, then these people need to shut the fuck up. I have almost killed myself a number of times, still deal with borderline alcohol addiction and self-mutilation, have ZERO sex life, but I’m able to keep it to myself and focus on changing my attitude, because I know that my external world is not going to change until I change my attitude —

— i.e., change the way I respond to the external world, instead of complaining about how fucked up the external world is and staying powerless.

Although I do empathize completely with people who feel that way. I have felt that way, of course. So I don’t want to slam people too hard. But when I hear people complaining about going a few months or a year without getting laid while I’ve been a single virgin my ENTIRE LIFE and have dealt with so much shit in complete isolation, I just feel like backhanding these people in the face.

With my pimp hand. It’s still in training. But at this point in my life, especially with all the pent up rage I have, I would be willing to go head to head with the best of them. The pimpest of all the pimps.

You want me to pay to fuck that bitch? SMACK!! Knock that gold tooth of his right out, put it in his own hand, and then fuck that bitch for FREE!!! Feel that pain? That’s a lifetime of virginity! Now I’m gonna fuck that bitch raw like I’ve wanted my whole life, and you’re going to raise that kid or pay child support or I’m going to get Guido to find you and break your knees and leave you in the corn fields for the crows to eat!

Now all I need is a fur pimp jacket and I’ll be on top of the world.

What can I say…you have to laugh. Shit gets too serious if you can’t loosen up and laugh about things once in a while. Reclaim your manhood, slap a pimp and fuck all his bitches after you pay with with his own gold teeth.

How’s that for alpha? Suck it :D