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		<title>By: Brave New Eugenics: officially making fatherless babies &#124; Philosophies of a Disenchanted Scholar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brave New Eugenics: officially making fatherless babies &#124; Philosophies of a Disenchanted Scholar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2014 21:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] raising the spectre of ‘designer babies’, born to the parents’ specifications. [this was predicted. Holy Shit, someone tell [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] raising the spectre of ‘designer babies’, born to the parents’ specifications. [this was predicted. Holy Shit, someone tell [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Cylux</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cylux]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2014 10:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You might find this interesting: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/britain-is-facing-a-major-sperm-shortage-9569949.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might find this interesting: <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/britain-is-facing-a-major-sperm-shortage-9569949.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/britain-is-facing-a-major-sperm-shortage-9569949.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Castaigne</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Castaigne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Feb 2014 23:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;This is “Alpha Sperm, Beta Provisioning”, and nothing less. Putting a tech or a doctor in the middle wearing gloves and a lab coat, and injecting semen with a syringe rather than the usual method doesn’t change that.&lt;/i&gt;

What the shit is this?
Look, from football accident in high school, I&#039;m sterile. No wigglies, no ability to have children, nada, zip, nothing. The ONLY way I&#039;m going to get to have a kid is by having my wife fertilized from a sperm bank. That&#039;s it. There&#039;s no other way. 

Basic biology. I&#039;m sterile; I want a kid; my wife gets fertilized using science. And that makes me a beta male? What the shit do you think an alpha is supposed to do, invent a goddamn time machine to undo the accident?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>This is “Alpha Sperm, Beta Provisioning”, and nothing less. Putting a tech or a doctor in the middle wearing gloves and a lab coat, and injecting semen with a syringe rather than the usual method doesn’t change that.</i></p>
<p>What the shit is this?<br />
Look, from football accident in high school, I&#8217;m sterile. No wigglies, no ability to have children, nada, zip, nothing. The ONLY way I&#8217;m going to get to have a kid is by having my wife fertilized from a sperm bank. That&#8217;s it. There&#8217;s no other way. </p>
<p>Basic biology. I&#8217;m sterile; I want a kid; my wife gets fertilized using science. And that makes me a beta male? What the shit do you think an alpha is supposed to do, invent a goddamn time machine to undo the accident?</p>
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		<title>By: Lightning Round -2014/02/05 &#124; Free Northerner</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lightning Round -2014/02/05 &#124; Free Northerner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Feb 2014 06:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] The sperm bank as in vitro cuckolding. [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The sperm bank as in vitro cuckolding. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Feb 2014 20:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My wife and I did the whole egg donor/gestational surrogate thing.  We have two very healthy kids not quite 2 years old.  Some observations:

1) Egg donors cost more like 3000 - 8000 dollars, not counting agency fees (several grand at least).  

2) Unfertilized ova aren&#039;t &quot;stored in advance&quot; BC they don&#039;t survive freezing well (due to large cell size, unlike the cells in fertilized embryos of a few hundred cells).  Not many fertility clinics freeze unfertilized ova at all (&lt;10%), and are the pricier ones.

3) Most fertility clinics only do married couples for IVF.  There certainly are ones for gays and single women, and not just in California.

4) Our fertility clinic (in TX) only agreed to handle us since we were married AND one of us was under 50.

5) A gestational surrogate (her fees only) is around 30K.  If you go for one via an agency for &quot;convenience&quot;, add at least another 10K.

6) Egg donors are moderately screened in most cases.  They&#039;re under about age 28 max (we wouldn&#039;t even look at any over age 24).

7) Universities are the cheapest IVF clinics, but give you worse customer service than the IRS.  (The one we talked to wouldn&#039;t even let us see pics of potential egg donors, the top reason we went to a private clinic.)

8) There probably are single hetero men using their own sperm + egg donors + gesational surrogates to get a child that&#039;s frivorce-proof, but I&#039;ve not heard of any specific cases in the U.S.  The ones of which I&#039;ve read, were done in India, and then there&#039;s a real PITA possible re bringing the kid back to the U.S.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife and I did the whole egg donor/gestational surrogate thing.  We have two very healthy kids not quite 2 years old.  Some observations:</p>
<p>1) Egg donors cost more like 3000 &#8211; 8000 dollars, not counting agency fees (several grand at least).  </p>
<p>2) Unfertilized ova aren&#8217;t &#8220;stored in advance&#8221; BC they don&#8217;t survive freezing well (due to large cell size, unlike the cells in fertilized embryos of a few hundred cells).  Not many fertility clinics freeze unfertilized ova at all (&lt;10%), and are the pricier ones.</p>
<p>3) Most fertility clinics only do married couples for IVF.  There certainly are ones for gays and single women, and not just in California.</p>
<p>4) Our fertility clinic (in TX) only agreed to handle us since we were married AND one of us was under 50.</p>
<p>5) A gestational surrogate (her fees only) is around 30K.  If you go for one via an agency for &quot;convenience&quot;, add at least another 10K.</p>
<p>6) Egg donors are moderately screened in most cases.  They&#039;re under about age 28 max (we wouldn&#039;t even look at any over age 24).</p>
<p>7) Universities are the cheapest IVF clinics, but give you worse customer service than the IRS.  (The one we talked to wouldn&#039;t even let us see pics of potential egg donors, the top reason we went to a private clinic.)</p>
<p>8) There probably are single hetero men using their own sperm + egg donors + gesational surrogates to get a child that&#039;s frivorce-proof, but I&#039;ve not heard of any specific cases in the U.S.  The ones of which I&#039;ve read, were done in India, and then there&#039;s a real PITA possible re bringing the kid back to the U.S.</p>
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		<title>By: Morpheus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Morpheus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Feb 2014 00:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rollo,

From the article you linked:

&lt;i&gt;And it helps rectify one of life’s greatest biological injustices: that men but not women can typically start a family well into middle age and beyond&lt;/i&gt;

&quot;Biological injustice&quot;?  Ponder the absurdity of that one.  The feminine imperative must trump biological reality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rollo,</p>
<p>From the article you linked:</p>
<p><i>And it helps rectify one of life’s greatest biological injustices: that men but not women can typically start a family well into middle age and beyond</i></p>
<p>&#8220;Biological injustice&#8221;?  Ponder the absurdity of that one.  The feminine imperative must trump biological reality.</p>
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		<title>By: David Carter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Carter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2014 17:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does standing in a cubical, wanking into a beaker really sound like the actions of a self respecting alpha male?

So what kind of man would give away his Sacred-Seed without any say in what happens to it?..  

*Desperate
*Delusional
*Foolish
*Psychotic 
*Beta

&lt;b&gt;Donated sperm is defective sperm.&lt;/b&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does standing in a cubical, wanking into a beaker really sound like the actions of a self respecting alpha male?</p>
<p>So what kind of man would give away his Sacred-Seed without any say in what happens to it?..  </p>
<p>*Desperate<br />
*Delusional<br />
*Foolish<br />
*Psychotic<br />
*Beta</p>
<p><b>Donated sperm is defective sperm.</b></p>
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		<title>By: Raja</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raja]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2014 02:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man rollo, you gotta do an article lampooning those pussies at askmen. They say to get a hot chick i gotta talk about topics that she is likely to be interested in. And i gotta be so good looking that it &quot;captures her imagination&quot;. As if women are heavenly angels with their rectum full of virtues. And i gotta be some artsy-fartsy academic and look like that fag brad pitt to hold conversation with a chick. Its pathetic. I once heard a patistani comedian say when women are 20 you mention a man they&#039;ll ask what does he look like. When they are 30 you mention a man they&#039;ll ask what does he do. When they are 40 you mention a man  they&#039;ll ask where is he. When i was young i used to be mad for pretty girls. Now i see a pretty girl i think to myself would be interesting to see what she looks like few years down the line. Would be interesting to see what jennifer lawrence looks like few years later. I like women but they are grossly overrated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man rollo, you gotta do an article lampooning those pussies at askmen. They say to get a hot chick i gotta talk about topics that she is likely to be interested in. And i gotta be so good looking that it &#8220;captures her imagination&#8221;. As if women are heavenly angels with their rectum full of virtues. And i gotta be some artsy-fartsy academic and look like that fag brad pitt to hold conversation with a chick. Its pathetic. I once heard a patistani comedian say when women are 20 you mention a man they&#8217;ll ask what does he look like. When they are 30 you mention a man they&#8217;ll ask what does he do. When they are 40 you mention a man  they&#8217;ll ask where is he. When i was young i used to be mad for pretty girls. Now i see a pretty girl i think to myself would be interesting to see what she looks like few years down the line. Would be interesting to see what jennifer lawrence looks like few years later. I like women but they are grossly overrated.</p>
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