Comments on: Saving the Best

By: Brett Stevens

Brett Stevens — Thu, 09 Apr 2015 19:24:02 +0000

It seems to me there are a bunch of issues here. The first is the female strategy of having sex with exciting men while settling down with nerds. I don’t use the terms Alpha and Beta here because over the years I’ve seen how the studs rarely are actually Alphas. They’re bad boys and those are fun until they hit their mid-30s and then they turn blown-out and creepy.

The big issue that’s hiding here is that anonymity in a society permits this behavior. Living in a big city, where no one knows you, your actions are essentially anonymous. This allows people to act like whores and assume there will be no consequences. For both of the people in this story, there were consequences: he got a whore, she got a wimp.

Another question that is missing here is that of quality of women. Ultimately, two lower-status people found each other. No woman with a functional brain is going to behave the way she did. It is not natural behavior for someone of any higher intelligence or who is not an abuse victim (people from unstable and abusive families tend to seek degradation). She knew she had a few good years of being cute when she was young, so she milked it, and then settled down with a nerd. It’s no wonder the sex was bad; her intent toward him was entirely different than it was toward the studs railing her when she was younger. That was fun, and gave her bragging rights among her fellow witless young females. When she got older, she wanted marriage and kids for a different form of bragging right.

I think Red Pill strategies make sense if you’re trying to find a way to bang chicks. But keep in mind that you have them removed yourself from the market for quality women, much as this woman removed herself from the market for a quality man. Much of his story is pathetic. He needed to have a few drinks just to talk to her? That sounds like a weepy Hollywood manchild, not a man. Then he runs away and doesn’t make a clean break, signaling indecisiveness. At that point, the realistic end is for him to run on home with a Feeldoe and let her peg him.

Traditional living — chastity, honor and pride — allows both men and women to avoid degrading themselves and have happy marriages. In this story however, an insincere man met an insincere woman and they have been manipulating each other ever since. It’s hard to have any sympathy for anyone in the story, least of all the children, who are the product of bad DNA on both sides.

By: Rollo Tomassi

Rollo Tomassi — Thu, 09 Apr 2015 16:28:25 +0000

You should read this next:
http://therationalmale.com/2015/03/24/betas-in-waiting/

By: Odile Lee

Odile Lee — Thu, 09 Apr 2015 14:24:38 +0000

This is heartbreaking.
When I read things such as this, I sadly understand why my ex husband ( who is still best friends with me – we broke up over mental health issues, which I could not fix for him ) came about his ( to me ) strange paranoias, and also the man Im dating ( second one ever, so pretty green here )- who two decades ago dated promiscuous women and is also very paranoid.
Id no idea about such women, as I lived with severe disability for most of my life.
Now that I am better able to process data, I can say coming to all of this as a sort of tabula rata is very shocking. I was raised by a man,have men friends, get along best with men. I was never a feminist ( trying more to stay alive, talk about understanding the dark depths of human nature ), seeing yas disability means youve bigger issues than catcalling.
Why would anyone live like this? Hiding their real feelings?
It just confounds me.
But at least now I understand why men are afraid. As theyve been my consolation of good hearted support, I am happy in some small way- that being a total outcast from society comes to mean I was never twisted by it. So will always uphold my view that truth should be. So I can hopefully be a small support to anyone male somehow.
Im sorry this is so long. I am not good at somethings yet, and needed POV established to show where I was coming from.
Im so sorry there are so many messed up women. So many good hearted men- and for what? I understand alienation- and I send to everyone from my heart my sympathy. Be strong. Thru time, men created ways of communicating just to save some knowledge to others, in the future- to bear up. Have courage. Be that man who learnt, and worked to change what he willed. If he could.
It is on the foundation of other men’s trial and work, that civilisation is continued. To be awake is have achieved a great deed. Many never do.
It was in words of long dead men, that I had my only solace and love. Because of their great hearts, a miracle of words survived. I would be dead if not for this.
Be those next great men. There are enough words.
But there always needs to be men, of valour and bravery. Courage and gentleness, fierce as they would be.
The world depends on it.
It is nothing, without men.

By: dbphreakdb

dbphreakdb — Thu, 09 Apr 2015 14:17:17 +0000

I have never been able to understand how men have been able to be with women that aren’t their personal slut. It’s always been a bullet point on my list of requirements for a relationship, though that is thanks to a rather crass uncle having ‘the talk’ with me as a youngster.

By: lee

lee — Thu, 09 Apr 2015 13:47:43 +0000

The irony is the man says something similar to “I shouldnt have been drinking” and “I felt wrong for confronting her” and feels bad about how he handled it.

Truth is he ran solid dread game exactly how you should do it. He handled her treachery exactly how a man should. Dread, legal advice, divorce.

By: Betas In Waiting |

Betas In Waiting | — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 23:54:03 +0000

[…] beginning to effect on contemporary western(ized) culture. In that exploration I published Saving the Best (another TRP link), a story which revolved around the increasingly more common post-Epiphany Phase […]

By: Ryan

Ryan — Fri, 13 Feb 2015 07:30:41 +0000

Wow, all over a bit of anal..? Why would you even marry a prude in the first place?

By: “She turned on me” |

“She turned on me” | — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 04:08:59 +0000

[…] Saving the Best continues to be a seminal post on Rational Male, not the least of which because so many men could relate to the experience. However, this may not have been the experience of discovering a sexual past his wife had no intention of ever allowing him to share with her , but rather the expectation men have of receiving a woman’s ‘sexual best’ in marriage. That may not amount to the sexual experimentation she had in her Party Years, but for a Beta who believes his patience and virtue are to be rewarded at long last it is an expectation of enjoying the same or better sexual urgency his wife-to-be shared with her past lovers. […]