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		<title>By: So I&#8217;m at the coffee shop line-up on a cold morning when.. &#171; M3</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[So I&#8217;m at the coffee shop line-up on a cold morning when.. &#171; M3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 04:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] so well by their very nature! Then they rationalize it away by telling everyone within earshot &#8220;Oh you don&#8217;t know him like i do, he&#8217;s a big ol&#8217; softy&#8221;. Sure he is toots. Sure he is. The entire feminist belief system that a majority of men are shallow [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] so well by their very nature! Then they rationalize it away by telling everyone within earshot &#8220;Oh you don&#8217;t know him like i do, he&#8217;s a big ol&#8217; softy&#8221;. Sure he is toots. Sure he is. The entire feminist belief system that a majority of men are shallow [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Seraph</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2013/01/17/mister-softee/comment-page-1/#comment-15036</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 04:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;his endless writing about “how to be ..ehm .. alpha (aka SLAVE), how to monkey – dance to get laid, what to do to be worthy of pussy, etc.” actually proves one thing – men are deprived of their peace of mind unless they have their manhood CONFIRMED by women. Unless men find a way to be emotionally stable and happy without women, there is no chance of changing anything except of using FEAR and government power to deprive women af all their rights so that women NEED men to survive and pathetic slaves – aka men have their confirmation.&quot;

A LOT of freaking wisdom right here...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;his endless writing about “how to be ..ehm .. alpha (aka SLAVE), how to monkey – dance to get laid, what to do to be worthy of pussy, etc.” actually proves one thing – men are deprived of their peace of mind unless they have their manhood CONFIRMED by women. Unless men find a way to be emotionally stable and happy without women, there is no chance of changing anything except of using FEAR and government power to deprive women af all their rights so that women NEED men to survive and pathetic slaves – aka men have their confirmation.&#8221;</p>
<p>A LOT of freaking wisdom right here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 18:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Martel,

First, I&#039;m rooting for the success of your red-pill mission.

Believe me, as with any soldier or former soldier, I can gripe about the Army, too. Bitching is a soldier&#039;s god-given right, time immemorial. Nonetheless, the red-pill movement is looking to make the leap and germinate somewhere. I can&#039;t think of a better suited real-world laboratory for the red pill in our society than the military community.

A comment I made a few weeks ago at Ian Ironwood&#039;s blog: 

In early stages with short reach and low resources, it would be productive to target parts of American society that are better suited as incubators and concentrations of young men who are predisposed to the red pill.

While the obvious places and groups are college campuses and students, I believe better fertile ground for the red pill can be found in the military community.

Our military is predominantly male with young men. Soldiers come from diverse backgrounds and, for effective incubation, return to diverse backgrounds. Soldiers eventually leave the military and return to civil society, and most do so when they&#039;re still relatively young. The military teaches valuable life lessons and does a lot to prepare departing soldiers, but there is still a disconnect between military life and civilian life that trips up too many young veterans. The military doesn&#039;t teach its young troops how to navigate a feminist society. As incentive, the red pill can be a practical solution that not only enhances soldiers&#039; social lives while they&#039;re serving but also helps them master the pitfalls of the transition from a masculine military community to a feminist civil society. 

While the military is far from immune to political correctness and &#039;man-up&#039; chivalry, the military has retained more traditional masculine values and patriarchal structure than any other major part of our society. The cloistered military community provides greater protection for the red pill to take hold. Young American soldiers mostly live and work in the company of men, with a minority of female soldiers, within a masculine culture - not a feminist campus or white-collar workplace. Many young soldiers, in fact, join the military desiring paternalistic guidance and a masculine formative experience.

In short, the military provides fertile ground for the red pill where men and young men are concentrated. They&#039;re open to the red pill and desire masculinity. Most of them will spread out in civil society within a few years. The red pill will help them make the transition, and in turn, they will spread the red pill that has helped them. The relatively masculine culture within the military is conducive to ... red pill teachings, and the setting is at least semi-protected from the policing reach of feminism compared to campuses, workplaces, and other parts of society where young men are concentrated. 

Add: Many young veterans go to college soon after leaving the military. If you believe in Mencius Moldbug&#039;s Cathedral concept that holds forth academia as a source of culture, then it would be best both for the veterans personally and the advancement of the Manosphere movement for soldiers to be red pill proficient by the time they&#039;re preparing to take off the uniform and enter the SMP and evolutionary political struggle on campus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martel,</p>
<p>First, I&#8217;m rooting for the success of your red-pill mission.</p>
<p>Believe me, as with any soldier or former soldier, I can gripe about the Army, too. Bitching is a soldier&#8217;s god-given right, time immemorial. Nonetheless, the red-pill movement is looking to make the leap and germinate somewhere. I can&#8217;t think of a better suited real-world laboratory for the red pill in our society than the military community.</p>
<p>A comment I made a few weeks ago at Ian Ironwood&#8217;s blog: </p>
<p>In early stages with short reach and low resources, it would be productive to target parts of American society that are better suited as incubators and concentrations of young men who are predisposed to the red pill.</p>
<p>While the obvious places and groups are college campuses and students, I believe better fertile ground for the red pill can be found in the military community.</p>
<p>Our military is predominantly male with young men. Soldiers come from diverse backgrounds and, for effective incubation, return to diverse backgrounds. Soldiers eventually leave the military and return to civil society, and most do so when they&#8217;re still relatively young. The military teaches valuable life lessons and does a lot to prepare departing soldiers, but there is still a disconnect between military life and civilian life that trips up too many young veterans. The military doesn&#8217;t teach its young troops how to navigate a feminist society. As incentive, the red pill can be a practical solution that not only enhances soldiers&#8217; social lives while they&#8217;re serving but also helps them master the pitfalls of the transition from a masculine military community to a feminist civil society. </p>
<p>While the military is far from immune to political correctness and &#8216;man-up&#8217; chivalry, the military has retained more traditional masculine values and patriarchal structure than any other major part of our society. The cloistered military community provides greater protection for the red pill to take hold. Young American soldiers mostly live and work in the company of men, with a minority of female soldiers, within a masculine culture &#8211; not a feminist campus or white-collar workplace. Many young soldiers, in fact, join the military desiring paternalistic guidance and a masculine formative experience.</p>
<p>In short, the military provides fertile ground for the red pill where men and young men are concentrated. They&#8217;re open to the red pill and desire masculinity. Most of them will spread out in civil society within a few years. The red pill will help them make the transition, and in turn, they will spread the red pill that has helped them. The relatively masculine culture within the military is conducive to &#8230; red pill teachings, and the setting is at least semi-protected from the policing reach of feminism compared to campuses, workplaces, and other parts of society where young men are concentrated. </p>
<p>Add: Many young veterans go to college soon after leaving the military. If you believe in Mencius Moldbug&#8217;s Cathedral concept that holds forth academia as a source of culture, then it would be best both for the veterans personally and the advancement of the Manosphere movement for soldiers to be red pill proficient by the time they&#8217;re preparing to take off the uniform and enter the SMP and evolutionary political struggle on campus.</p>
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		<title>By: Martel</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2013/01/17/mister-softee/comment-page-1/#comment-14969</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 15:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Eric/Anna  Your military experiences differ heavily from mine.  I know I wasn&#039;t in the world&#039;s best MOS, but I found that PC had taken over damn near every aspect of every unit I was in.

The Army Values were drilled into us as theory and a list to be memorized but not practiced with much consistency.

However, you are correct in your assessment that military males would be a great target audience for this stuff.  It&#039;s still better than society at large and males who enlist would undoubtedly be more receptive than those on a college campus.

Also, it might help lower divorce rates which has become a serious problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Eric/Anna  Your military experiences differ heavily from mine.  I know I wasn&#8217;t in the world&#8217;s best MOS, but I found that PC had taken over damn near every aspect of every unit I was in.</p>
<p>The Army Values were drilled into us as theory and a list to be memorized but not practiced with much consistency.</p>
<p>However, you are correct in your assessment that military males would be a great target audience for this stuff.  It&#8217;s still better than society at large and males who enlist would undoubtedly be more receptive than those on a college campus.</p>
<p>Also, it might help lower divorce rates which has become a serious problem.</p>
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		<title>By: AnonWriter</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 14:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt; When soldiers apply the 7 Army values (loyalty, duty, respect, selfless service, honor, integrity, personal courage) to women, they simply don’t receive the same positive feedback they get from applying the Army values on the job among soldiers.&lt;/i&gt;

This is because what really matters most to women is &lt;i&gt;how a man makes her feel&lt;/i&gt;.  Its been called &#039;female solipsism&#039; in many places, and maybe it is, but the point is that women put much more emphasis on their own feelings than men do.  Most men can&#039;t relate to this because they project their own male values onto women, and then are confused when these values are not respected and admired by women in the same way that men would.  Women are not hard to figure out if you don&#039;t fall into the trap of believing they are like men.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> When soldiers apply the 7 Army values (loyalty, duty, respect, selfless service, honor, integrity, personal courage) to women, they simply don’t receive the same positive feedback they get from applying the Army values on the job among soldiers.</i></p>
<p>This is because what really matters most to women is <i>how a man makes her feel</i>.  Its been called &#8216;female solipsism&#8217; in many places, and maybe it is, but the point is that women put much more emphasis on their own feelings than men do.  Most men can&#8217;t relate to this because they project their own male values onto women, and then are confused when these values are not respected and admired by women in the same way that men would.  Women are not hard to figure out if you don&#8217;t fall into the trap of believing they are like men.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 11:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Eric

This is very true. The teaching of these core values in our military makes for soldiers/citizens who understand how people should act towards each other.
I&#039;ve personally seen what you speak of with numerous members of my extended family...my Grandfather and Uncle (Army), my Aunt (Air Force), and most recently my younger brother (Marines). Each one of them changed what they thought was attractive in a mate, and when they returned to civilian life, found spouses who upheld the values the military taught them (though to hear them tell it, this was quite difficult).
Even my brother, who only recently joined, no longer hangs out with the girls/guys he used to...During his holiday break with the family, he said that none of his old girlfriends and only one of his guy friends displayed the values he now holds dear. 
If only our society saw fit to teach these core values in civilian life, I&#039;m positive we&#039;d be better off.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Eric</p>
<p>This is very true. The teaching of these core values in our military makes for soldiers/citizens who understand how people should act towards each other.<br />
I&#8217;ve personally seen what you speak of with numerous members of my extended family&#8230;my Grandfather and Uncle (Army), my Aunt (Air Force), and most recently my younger brother (Marines). Each one of them changed what they thought was attractive in a mate, and when they returned to civilian life, found spouses who upheld the values the military taught them (though to hear them tell it, this was quite difficult).<br />
Even my brother, who only recently joined, no longer hangs out with the girls/guys he used to&#8230;During his holiday break with the family, he said that none of his old girlfriends and only one of his guy friends displayed the values he now holds dear.<br />
If only our society saw fit to teach these core values in civilian life, I&#8217;m positive we&#8217;d be better off.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 06:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rollo,

Military men ought to be a targeted audience for your red-pill teachings.

As an Army veteran, I can attest that being socialized as a soldier is to learn positive masculinity in terms of a man among men. While not immune from political correctness, there is a stand-off distance from civilian society that preserves within the military perhaps our last best repository of traditional masculine values and culture.

Before I joined the Army, the military seemed alien and threatening. What I found, instead, is the nature of soldiering just made sense to me on a basic level as a man that I had not experienced before the Army. Soldiering opened my eyes to the intrinsic higher value of manhood. I have not found the same masculine fit since returning to civilian society. (Granted, I didn&#039;t become a cop.) 

However, the Army does not cure Beta. The military - as you imply - does not teach soldiers how to handle women and deal with feminism. When soldiers apply the 7 Army values (loyalty, duty, respect, selfless service, honor, integrity, personal courage) to women, they simply don&#039;t receive the same positive feedback they get from applying the Army values on the job among soldiers. If anything, their heightened engagement with masculinity in male terms obscures their understanding of women. Editorially, I believe the disjunction between the masculine culture of the military and the feminized culture of civilian society is an unacknowledged reason why many seemingly capable veterans are tripped up in their transition from military life to the civilian world.

The masculine values that soldiers learn are invaluable, and our society would be made healthier and stronger if veterans could spread those values upon their return to civilian society. However, in their current condition, military-sourced masculine values are fragile in the context of feminized civilian society.

I believe the solution is adding formative red-pill teachings to the traditional masculine lessons received by impressionable young soldiers. Doing so will empower and protect the soldiers in their immediate personal lives, especially important for the soldiers who are anxiously distant (Dear John, Jody) from their love objects. And, by the time they are mature veterans returning to civilian society, their traditional masculine values hybridized with red-pill awareness should be robust enough to thrive in feminized civilian society. From their success, the combination of red pill and traditional masculine values can spread.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rollo,</p>
<p>Military men ought to be a targeted audience for your red-pill teachings.</p>
<p>As an Army veteran, I can attest that being socialized as a soldier is to learn positive masculinity in terms of a man among men. While not immune from political correctness, there is a stand-off distance from civilian society that preserves within the military perhaps our last best repository of traditional masculine values and culture.</p>
<p>Before I joined the Army, the military seemed alien and threatening. What I found, instead, is the nature of soldiering just made sense to me on a basic level as a man that I had not experienced before the Army. Soldiering opened my eyes to the intrinsic higher value of manhood. I have not found the same masculine fit since returning to civilian society. (Granted, I didn&#8217;t become a cop.) </p>
<p>However, the Army does not cure Beta. The military &#8211; as you imply &#8211; does not teach soldiers how to handle women and deal with feminism. When soldiers apply the 7 Army values (loyalty, duty, respect, selfless service, honor, integrity, personal courage) to women, they simply don&#8217;t receive the same positive feedback they get from applying the Army values on the job among soldiers. If anything, their heightened engagement with masculinity in male terms obscures their understanding of women. Editorially, I believe the disjunction between the masculine culture of the military and the feminized culture of civilian society is an unacknowledged reason why many seemingly capable veterans are tripped up in their transition from military life to the civilian world.</p>
<p>The masculine values that soldiers learn are invaluable, and our society would be made healthier and stronger if veterans could spread those values upon their return to civilian society. However, in their current condition, military-sourced masculine values are fragile in the context of feminized civilian society.</p>
<p>I believe the solution is adding formative red-pill teachings to the traditional masculine lessons received by impressionable young soldiers. Doing so will empower and protect the soldiers in their immediate personal lives, especially important for the soldiers who are anxiously distant (Dear John, Jody) from their love objects. And, by the time they are mature veterans returning to civilian society, their traditional masculine values hybridized with red-pill awareness should be robust enough to thrive in feminized civilian society. From their success, the combination of red pill and traditional masculine values can spread.</p>
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		<title>By: Don&#8217;t Lose Yourself &#124; Sir Alan&#039;s Spire</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] to be an alpha male in order to attract and maintain women. Rollo Tomassi over at the Rational Male eloquently illustrated this point. Because these men lack experience that comes from being indulged in a red pill perspective, they [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] to be an alpha male in order to attract and maintain women. Rollo Tomassi over at the Rational Male eloquently illustrated this point. Because these men lack experience that comes from being indulged in a red pill perspective, they [&#8230;]</p>
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