I’d have to differ to some extent. My uncle married a widow with two children and had three more sons with her. I never saw any evidence of anything less than the usual sibling relations and the eldest (of her children) gave an excellent eulogy at his funeral. Now admittedly she outlived him so there was never the situation where he had to impose his will without her support… but I got the impression they were truly thankful for being treated as his children and raised that way. Having a life in the church makes all the difference.

That’s some great advice, though a lot of us are thick-headed and need to learn the hard way; takes some people numerous times.

I would share my experience as a young man who lived quite successfully (until the end I initiated) with a young girl from 18 – 21, but it would take too long. Chances are it won’t last, but it can offer some of the greatest learning experiences in a young mans life. For me, I feel like I was married for 3 years, divorced, and got that level of commitment out of my system – and learned what it truly meant to be in a reciprocal relationship, and at one point tell-tale signs or intuition is reactively accurate vs. paranoid conjecture. I learned so much about relationships during those three years. Maybe this kid will have an even better experience. I am grateful I had the courage to both dive right in, and the strength to jump ship when my dignity was at stake, and when my life & the relationship became stagnant. When we both were growing, and growing apart with no rekindling in sight. It’s hard to leave your first “true love” but I now know, after countless experiences, it’s only men that love in a way they need to learn not to.

As, regardless of age, the stories are all too familiar:

An older friend of mine (27m with 23f ex) recently was broken up with. I had predicted and expressed my concern to him (via red pill knowledge and prior experience) regarding the eminent & eventual fallout of his 3 year relationship; they lived at his parents house. Explaining to him during/after the relationship what was happening when he asked, and getting him back on his feet after my predictions, observations, and warnings were right: she was cheating on him, and gave him a year to get his act together, but he continued to sit at home all day “waiting for her to get home from work,” because he didn’t feel “comfortable” until she was sleeping, because that way he knew what she was doing and that she was safe.

I watched as she began to have “side-jobs” more often, would work later hours, began getting jobs further and further away from his house (he’s a neighbor of mine), and would watch as he grew increasingly nervous and when asked where she was, he’d respond with a statement intoned or in the rising pitch of a question. Near the end, he didn’t know where she was or what she was doing, ever.

She came to me for advice a year before she began cheating, and I got my friend to get back into doing some of his work. She explained she was packed up secretly at the time and had been saving up to move out, but thankfully I subtly got him excited about his trade, and they were apparently happy again. She wasn’t cheating at that time.

Fast forward a year and she’s working hard, apprenticeship and waiting tables and work on the side. The more she works, the more I know she’s avoiding seeing her (in her words) “lazy loser” of a boyfriend, and progressively as she worked more and he grew more paranoid, she began to cheat until she could no longer take it and found an alternative.

He told me she came home one night, when he confronted her about what the fuck was going on, that she literally had fresh cum on her pants and shirt as she tried to seduce him away from questioning her. Then she broke up with him. Left 3 years of a life they had began to build together, when he was nearly a month away from asking her to marry him and to find a place to live together. Because it wasn’t until she grew careless during the final week of their relationship that it was blatantly obvious she was cheating.

She left him with 3 grand worth of silver (I think as a consolation prize), and him doing the “nice” thing gave it back to her. Gave her what she intentionally left him, because she specifically took a shit ton of other stuff that was hers. But, he’s a good person, does the right thing, and made sure she got all of her stuff.

But this is a prime example of how women are. Almost if not all of them. Not yet have I met a man who hasn’t encountered this sort of experience personally or via a friend. I’d argue, if not personally, then soon enough, unfortunately.

Thing is, I relate the above because the one thing that would have prevented this from happening, is literally if my friend had done ANYTHING besides sit in his room smoking weed waiting for her to get home. Which she put up with happily for 2 years before complaining to me about it.

Apologize for the length. Great post. And awesome comments too.

Also as much as the Dane Cook flick My Best Friend’s Girl takes a gay Hollywood turn at the end, there’s a good quote in it by Alec Baldwin (Cook’s dad in the flick): “See I always knew your mom was the best it was ever going to get for me. And I never asked the more important question which is, was I the best it was ever going to get for her?”

Could be worth a watch for the kid and his gf since its a recent rom-com, and they repeat that line a couple times in it. Might get him thinking.

A lot of PUAs actually hope we don’t HAVE to teach our kid any of this shit, that we can simply lead by example as they grow up and naturally pick up how social dynamics work. This road was hard as fuck, I wish people didn’t have to go down it, but this is like a transitional generation with the Internet and The Game and the Manosphere and everything…it was either consciously study this or be oblivious. Hopefully as red-pill dialog spreads, future generations are able to avoid a lot of the shit the MGTOW types (the ones who turned to MGTOW after being burned, at least) went through because the social brainwashing of feminism doesn’t hold up as well when men can communicate with eachother over the net and compare notes and go “wow what they’re telling us doesn’t jive with ANY of our experiences, maybe I should question it.”

To me, it’s sad that PUA is still shit on so much (it’s partly the PUA industry’s fault, don’t get me wrong lol) because videos like this, reworded a bit to leave out the pickup angle and focus on the relationship angle, might really help a situation like this:

They approach the idea of being on your path from the angle of “keep growing and being high value as a man because once you stop giving a shit about yourself your girl is going to look for someone worth her time.” which, while arguably a supplicative notion (improving yourself to get validation from pussy instead of for yourself as a man), is a decent way to get the idea into the head of an 18yo with one-itis who’s young dumb and full of cum.

I would probably approach it like “look I know you want to wait for your girl and that’s cool, but how long do you think she’s going to stay with a guy who’s decided she isn’t worth trying to better himself and become a good provider who she can respect and look up to as a man? Do you think she’s going to come home from her college class to see you sitting on the couch playing x-box and think “this is the man I want to build a lasting future with”? Or do you think she’d rather see you handling your shit and showing her that she can trust you to take care of her when she needs it?”

Yes, this is putting “pussy on a pedestal” and yes, it could still all blow up in the kid’s face down the road for a ton of reasons that relationships don’t work out, but right now the kid has pedestalized securing a steady source of sex/love, so approaching it from that angle might resonate with him better than old angry guys telling him how their wives screwed them over (he’ll just think their wives were evil sluts and those men were stupider than him, it’s human nature).

I mean, even if the kid DOES stall his college life for a year to wait for her AND moves to where she goes to college, fuck it that’s not a big deal, lots of people take a year or so off before they start college and lots of people move to random cities to start their life up, those aren’t fatal situations even if she ditched him once he moved there and put school off for a year.

The important thing is getting into his head “ya, go ahead and wait for her before you start your journey, BUT when you get to wherever you two end up, make sure you START your journey and become a man she can be proud to be with.”

Down the road he can learn about the red-pill the same way most guys do…but at least he’ll be on a path to a decent life instead of wasting 5 years playing Xbox lol