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		<title>By: Ray of darkness: The chilling effect on Black men of Stephen A. Smith&#8217;s suspension</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/12/06/shouting-in-the-wilderness/comment-page-1/#comment-49281</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray of darkness: The chilling effect on Black men of Stephen A. Smith&#8217;s suspension]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2014 14:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] crafting this piece, starting Tuesday, I harkened back to this December 2012 Rational Male post about the first time Smith dispensed red pill wisdom, in the video above, this time after an [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] crafting this piece, starting Tuesday, I harkened back to this December 2012 Rational Male post about the first time Smith dispensed red pill wisdom, in the video above, this time after an [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: treylesnorth</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/12/06/shouting-in-the-wilderness/comment-page-1/#comment-14180</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[treylesnorth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent. Rollo, my guide. Sidestepping some of the discourse I&#039;m seeing in the comments as of late (Not sure why I&#039;m seeing any if it... I respect the personal philosophies of YaReally, Xsplat, and King A)

Why a girl (read: the author of the article) cheats. Written from the female as primary perspective. Not sure there&#039;s much new about it, but something in the thought processes of the woman is tingling the spidey sense. A quick glance can&#039;t place it.

http://m.askmen.com/dating/vanessa_60/83_love_secrets.html

Seems no matter how many times or ways I hear it all phrased, it&#039;s impossible to make the pieces fit and stay fitted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent. Rollo, my guide. Sidestepping some of the discourse I&#8217;m seeing in the comments as of late (Not sure why I&#8217;m seeing any if it&#8230; I respect the personal philosophies of YaReally, Xsplat, and King A)</p>
<p>Why a girl (read: the author of the article) cheats. Written from the female as primary perspective. Not sure there&#8217;s much new about it, but something in the thought processes of the woman is tingling the spidey sense. A quick glance can&#8217;t place it.</p>
<p><a href="http://m.askmen.com/dating/vanessa_60/83_love_secrets.html" rel="nofollow">http://m.askmen.com/dating/vanessa_60/83_love_secrets.html</a></p>
<p>Seems no matter how many times or ways I hear it all phrased, it&#8217;s impossible to make the pieces fit and stay fitted.</p>
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		<title>By: ariseandexcel</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/12/06/shouting-in-the-wilderness/comment-page-1/#comment-13358</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ariseandexcel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 23:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two minor points.

First, I did a text search for &#039;Minter&#039; to read what Mark Minter had to say on this topic.  As usual.

Second, I could probably listen to Smith talk for about twelve hours straight and not get tired of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two minor points.</p>
<p>First, I did a text search for &#8216;Minter&#8217; to read what Mark Minter had to say on this topic.  As usual.</p>
<p>Second, I could probably listen to Smith talk for about twelve hours straight and not get tired of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Black Solidarity Shedding White Progressivism &#124; realitydoug</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Black Solidarity Shedding White Progressivism &#124; realitydoug]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] a ‘nice guy’, basically the Let&#8217;s Just Be Friends (LJBF) cycle. I also read Rollo&#8217;s “Shouting in the Wilderness” dated 6 December 2012. SEE THE VIDEOS! What you have is somewhat red-pill Stephen A Smith in [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] a ‘nice guy’, basically the Let&#8217;s Just Be Friends (LJBF) cycle. I also read Rollo&#8217;s “Shouting in the Wilderness” dated 6 December 2012. SEE THE VIDEOS! What you have is somewhat red-pill Stephen A Smith in [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: stevie tellatruth</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stevie tellatruth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 03:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just wanna say glad to see somebody caught this episode of First Take. I was hoping someone would bring it to the &#039;sphere.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanna say glad to see somebody caught this episode of First Take. I was hoping someone would bring it to the &#8216;sphere.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Minter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Minter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 01:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find that any comment this late in a posting cycle is probably ignored.  

I have been thinking about this topic a lot since this post first appeared.  I actually wrote an essay that was tremendously long where I noted the sheer totally about football that reinforces the feminine imperative and actually creates a beta mindset in men,  both as young players,  and mostly as fans.  

When I started thinking about it,  the essay just got longer and longer and longer and longer,  anything from playing the sport, to watching it, to being a husband and when you are &quot;permitted&quot; to watch it,  the fact that it is permitted because it is such a beta inducing activity and value,  the commercials during the games, and especially the morals that reinforced  in the minds of fans.  Their is such amazing outrage exhibited over some of the most trivial things that a player might do or say, both on and off the field.  When I think of how many coaches and players have been used as &quot;whipping boy&quot; examples over violations of Femcentric values, and so dramatically punished and lost their livelihood for some actions that offends Femcentrism,  Petrino getting fired for having the coed on the back of a motorcycle and getting in a wreck,  Mike Price for being in topless bar while at a convention in Florida,  any player with a DUI, a Domestic Violence,  Big Ben and the ass whippings he took for 2 allegations of rape,  and on and on and.  In no other job will you lose it, or even have the fact you did lose it stand up to a civil suit,  if you were not convicted in a court of law.  If you weren&#039;t convicted, then you cannot be accused of doing it, except in football.

So I had a long comment before hat was, again, at the end of a cycle of comments about a week ago that pretty much was ignored, as this comment will probably be ignored also.   It was about rejecting all morality because so much is constructed to work against your interest as a man.

So here is my fucking question.

Rational Male has done yeoman&#039;s work in exposing and exposing and exposing concept after concept after concept after concept of ideas, of values, of stereotypes, of generalizations  about the most fundamental constructions and abstractions that constitute the paradigm by which men view, interpret, judge, and then act in the world.  

This blog has challenged and rejected and reinterpreted things such as love, fidelity, trustworthiness, commitment,  and how women and society view men and continually pound crap values into men that work against the better interest of the man and can actually kill him. 

Alright,  so now in this discussion of football,  fucking football of all things for Christ&#039;s sake!!,  we can see the subtle and not so subtle conditioning in it.

So at what fucking point do men get a fucking clue that ALL OF IT is bullshit and come to my conclusion,  throw all of it in the fucking garbage can, every lick of it,  and start the fuck over?

How do you know any fucking thing in your head is worth a crap? 

You can practically deconstruct all values and at some point in the deconstruction you can get to &quot;works for the feminine imperative&quot;.

Consider any of the following items &quot;Marriage&quot;  &quot;Work&quot; &quot;cooperation&quot; &quot;generosity&quot; &quot;commitment&quot; &quot;Chaste&quot; &quot;Character&quot; &quot;honesty&quot;

and tell me,  fucking tell where those abstractions, those ideas, those values inherent in those words do not have an interpretation that 
(1) that works to reinforce what women want from men and is in the better interest of women vis a vis the interest of men. 

(2) Which one of those terms has a different interpretation, value set, social expectation for men than the term does for women?

So if it seems radical that I say through it all out.  Fucking sorry.  Sorry. Sorry.

Ok,  I&#039;m  not sorry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find that any comment this late in a posting cycle is probably ignored.  </p>
<p>I have been thinking about this topic a lot since this post first appeared.  I actually wrote an essay that was tremendously long where I noted the sheer totally about football that reinforces the feminine imperative and actually creates a beta mindset in men,  both as young players,  and mostly as fans.  </p>
<p>When I started thinking about it,  the essay just got longer and longer and longer and longer,  anything from playing the sport, to watching it, to being a husband and when you are &#8220;permitted&#8221; to watch it,  the fact that it is permitted because it is such a beta inducing activity and value,  the commercials during the games, and especially the morals that reinforced  in the minds of fans.  Their is such amazing outrage exhibited over some of the most trivial things that a player might do or say, both on and off the field.  When I think of how many coaches and players have been used as &#8220;whipping boy&#8221; examples over violations of Femcentric values, and so dramatically punished and lost their livelihood for some actions that offends Femcentrism,  Petrino getting fired for having the coed on the back of a motorcycle and getting in a wreck,  Mike Price for being in topless bar while at a convention in Florida,  any player with a DUI, a Domestic Violence,  Big Ben and the ass whippings he took for 2 allegations of rape,  and on and on and.  In no other job will you lose it, or even have the fact you did lose it stand up to a civil suit,  if you were not convicted in a court of law.  If you weren&#8217;t convicted, then you cannot be accused of doing it, except in football.</p>
<p>So I had a long comment before hat was, again, at the end of a cycle of comments about a week ago that pretty much was ignored, as this comment will probably be ignored also.   It was about rejecting all morality because so much is constructed to work against your interest as a man.</p>
<p>So here is my fucking question.</p>
<p>Rational Male has done yeoman&#8217;s work in exposing and exposing and exposing concept after concept after concept after concept of ideas, of values, of stereotypes, of generalizations  about the most fundamental constructions and abstractions that constitute the paradigm by which men view, interpret, judge, and then act in the world.  </p>
<p>This blog has challenged and rejected and reinterpreted things such as love, fidelity, trustworthiness, commitment,  and how women and society view men and continually pound crap values into men that work against the better interest of the man and can actually kill him. </p>
<p>Alright,  so now in this discussion of football,  fucking football of all things for Christ&#8217;s sake!!,  we can see the subtle and not so subtle conditioning in it.</p>
<p>So at what fucking point do men get a fucking clue that ALL OF IT is bullshit and come to my conclusion,  throw all of it in the fucking garbage can, every lick of it,  and start the fuck over?</p>
<p>How do you know any fucking thing in your head is worth a crap? </p>
<p>You can practically deconstruct all values and at some point in the deconstruction you can get to &#8220;works for the feminine imperative&#8221;.</p>
<p>Consider any of the following items &#8220;Marriage&#8221;  &#8220;Work&#8221; &#8220;cooperation&#8221; &#8220;generosity&#8221; &#8220;commitment&#8221; &#8220;Chaste&#8221; &#8220;Character&#8221; &#8220;honesty&#8221;</p>
<p>and tell me,  fucking tell where those abstractions, those ideas, those values inherent in those words do not have an interpretation that<br />
(1) that works to reinforce what women want from men and is in the better interest of women vis a vis the interest of men. </p>
<p>(2) Which one of those terms has a different interpretation, value set, social expectation for men than the term does for women?</p>
<p>So if it seems radical that I say through it all out.  Fucking sorry.  Sorry. Sorry.</p>
<p>Ok,  I&#8217;m  not sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Sword</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sword]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was laughing when the beta guy said &#039;you have a lot of hatred towards women&#039; the irony is the black guy is probably pounding way more, or a hotter girl than that white guy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was laughing when the beta guy said &#8216;you have a lot of hatred towards women&#8217; the irony is the black guy is probably pounding way more, or a hotter girl than that white guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Wilf</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wilf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few comments back, I noticed that Brendan was talking about &quot;The Manipulated Man&quot; by Esther Vilar.  I searched the public library for it and found only 1 copy for reference only, not for loan. This library has something like 11-million items in its&#039; holdings.

I&#039;m not one for conspiracy theories, but  it does seem odd that this book with an alternate and opposite viewpoint to what is commonly accepted is for all intents and purposes, not available to the public. (According to Wikipedia, it appears to have been published in its&#039; 3rd edtion as recently as 2009.)

However, in the same library system there are more than 100 copies of Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus (including Print, Video, and languages other than English). Thing that make you go hmmmmmmmmm?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few comments back, I noticed that Brendan was talking about &#8220;The Manipulated Man&#8221; by Esther Vilar.  I searched the public library for it and found only 1 copy for reference only, not for loan. This library has something like 11-million items in its&#8217; holdings.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not one for conspiracy theories, but  it does seem odd that this book with an alternate and opposite viewpoint to what is commonly accepted is for all intents and purposes, not available to the public. (According to Wikipedia, it appears to have been published in its&#8217; 3rd edtion as recently as 2009.)</p>
<p>However, in the same library system there are more than 100 copies of Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus (including Print, Video, and languages other than English). Thing that make you go hmmmmmmmmm?</p>
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