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		<title>By: Father Knows Best &#124;</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/11/21/promise-keepers/comment-page-1/#comment-85270</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Father Knows Best &#124;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2015 22:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] post Mark is referencing was Promise Keepers. In that post I hit this situation from the opposite [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] post Mark is referencing was Promise Keepers. In that post I hit this situation from the opposite [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;She turned on me&#8221; &#124;</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/11/21/promise-keepers/comment-page-1/#comment-82191</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#8220;She turned on me&#8221; &#124;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2015 04:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] want to be like his oppressive or non-present father was. He wants to &#8216;out-support&#8217; his father&#8217;s ghost, or what he believes &#8216;other guys&#8217; would do when their marriages get [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] want to be like his oppressive or non-present father was. He wants to &#8216;out-support&#8217; his father&#8217;s ghost, or what he believes &#8216;other guys&#8217; would do when their marriages get [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/11/21/promise-keepers/comment-page-1/#comment-25120</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Nov 2013 01:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...The problem inherent in this modern day Oedipus scenario is that the feminine imperative is more than happy to use it to its universal social advantage. Feminization and its blue-pill conditioning of boys to be better “men” is defined by how well that “man” is acceptable to a feminine culture. Thus we get gender blurring, and boys are taught to pee sitting down by single mothers because “your asshole dad always made a mess and left the lid up.” Better ‘men’, uniquely feminine-acceptable men, pee like women.&quot;   

This was pretty much me, in fact if this is posted in wikipedia somewhere I bet my profile pic is next to it :)

- But I&#039;m committed to peeing standing up :) and teaching my kids by showing them all of the mistakes I&#039;ve made by trying to please and make a woman happy while not taking my own happiness into consideration (let alone putting it into the #1 priority spot where it should have been all along).

Time will tell if I do a good job with them by doing a good job with myself first - fingers crossed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;The problem inherent in this modern day Oedipus scenario is that the feminine imperative is more than happy to use it to its universal social advantage. Feminization and its blue-pill conditioning of boys to be better “men” is defined by how well that “man” is acceptable to a feminine culture. Thus we get gender blurring, and boys are taught to pee sitting down by single mothers because “your asshole dad always made a mess and left the lid up.” Better ‘men’, uniquely feminine-acceptable men, pee like women.&#8221;   </p>
<p>This was pretty much me, in fact if this is posted in wikipedia somewhere I bet my profile pic is next to it <span class='wp-smiley wp-emoji wp-emoji-smile' title=':)'>:)</span></p>
<p>&#8211; But I&#8217;m committed to peeing standing up <span class='wp-smiley wp-emoji wp-emoji-smile' title=':)'>:)</span> and teaching my kids by showing them all of the mistakes I&#8217;ve made by trying to please and make a woman happy while not taking my own happiness into consideration (let alone putting it into the #1 priority spot where it should have been all along).</p>
<p>Time will tell if I do a good job with them by doing a good job with myself first &#8211; fingers crossed.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/11/21/promise-keepers/comment-page-1/#comment-24285</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 14:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In relation to most of the other posters of comments for this, I had a &quot;bad dad&quot;, so to speak, as well. My situation is slightly different in that I never fully sought to protect my mother, because she would never leave him. I was, and still am, in the mindset in that it terrifies me to let myself feel anger and rage towards people I care for. Mainly because I could never look at myself i I were to lose my mind like my father did regularly.

Lately I am discovering that I must learn to accept that I will always be similar to my father, and that his capabilities for anger and rage will never go away. I have had my moments where I&#039;ve &quot;lost my mind&quot; and I have never laid a finger on someone who didn&#039;t deserve it. Oddly enough, my first really aggressive fight ever, was with my father, and I nearly knocked him unconscious with one hit, then repeatedly stopped myself from continuing by shouting over and over to him &quot;I don&#039;t want to do this. I don&#039;t want to hurt you. Stop please.&quot;

My words were not heard, and I wound up getting lifted off the floor and bashed into the wall creating a &#039;me&#039; sized hole with one of his arms around my neck. I had to damn near break his arm to get him to let me go. Needless to say, I didn&#039;t live at home for a week, and pretty much haven&#039;t ever spoken with any love for my father since then. That was 10 years ago. Ever since then, I&#039;ve been a lot more comfortable with myself, but it still bothers me. 

I have actually really been delving into this problem head-first for the past few months. Even with solid proof that I was able to control myself, I still fear the loss of control. I believe I will find a peace in this problem sometime soon. It is... relieving, to know that I am not alone, per se. My father, I think, was not a bad man. I think he just never fully learned to conquer and control his outbursts of anger, and never grew up. He had an abusive mother that dished out things ten times worse than anything I ever got, even though I don&#039;t consider that an excuse, I still &quot;get it&quot;. I love my mother, but think she is a fool for staying with him, and have no pity when she talks about all the horrible things he says to her and how little he does and is immature, etc.

I tried to save her, several times, and it got me deeper in the hole. Sounds cruel, but I had to give up and cut ties in a lot of ways. But ever since I left, I&#039;ve had a much more prosperous life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In relation to most of the other posters of comments for this, I had a &#8220;bad dad&#8221;, so to speak, as well. My situation is slightly different in that I never fully sought to protect my mother, because she would never leave him. I was, and still am, in the mindset in that it terrifies me to let myself feel anger and rage towards people I care for. Mainly because I could never look at myself i I were to lose my mind like my father did regularly.</p>
<p>Lately I am discovering that I must learn to accept that I will always be similar to my father, and that his capabilities for anger and rage will never go away. I have had my moments where I&#8217;ve &#8220;lost my mind&#8221; and I have never laid a finger on someone who didn&#8217;t deserve it. Oddly enough, my first really aggressive fight ever, was with my father, and I nearly knocked him unconscious with one hit, then repeatedly stopped myself from continuing by shouting over and over to him &#8220;I don&#8217;t want to do this. I don&#8217;t want to hurt you. Stop please.&#8221;</p>
<p>My words were not heard, and I wound up getting lifted off the floor and bashed into the wall creating a &#8216;me&#8217; sized hole with one of his arms around my neck. I had to damn near break his arm to get him to let me go. Needless to say, I didn&#8217;t live at home for a week, and pretty much haven&#8217;t ever spoken with any love for my father since then. That was 10 years ago. Ever since then, I&#8217;ve been a lot more comfortable with myself, but it still bothers me. </p>
<p>I have actually really been delving into this problem head-first for the past few months. Even with solid proof that I was able to control myself, I still fear the loss of control. I believe I will find a peace in this problem sometime soon. It is&#8230; relieving, to know that I am not alone, per se. My father, I think, was not a bad man. I think he just never fully learned to conquer and control his outbursts of anger, and never grew up. He had an abusive mother that dished out things ten times worse than anything I ever got, even though I don&#8217;t consider that an excuse, I still &#8220;get it&#8221;. I love my mother, but think she is a fool for staying with him, and have no pity when she talks about all the horrible things he says to her and how little he does and is immature, etc.</p>
<p>I tried to save her, several times, and it got me deeper in the hole. Sounds cruel, but I had to give up and cut ties in a lot of ways. But ever since I left, I&#8217;ve had a much more prosperous life.</p>
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		<title>By: The Best of Rational Male – Year Two &#124;</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/11/21/promise-keepers/comment-page-1/#comment-22263</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Best of Rational Male – Year Two &#124;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Promise Keepers [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Promise Keepers [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Put a Fork in Him &#124; Alpha Is Assumed</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/11/21/promise-keepers/comment-page-1/#comment-20359</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Put a Fork in Him &#124; Alpha Is Assumed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 May 2013 04:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] 2.  The mother wins.  In this case, he interprets his mother&#8217;s guidance/shit-test mixture as quality guidance.  He&#8217;s given up his budding Alpha urge to resist his mother and determined to do the right thing.  He subconsciously associates his mother&#8217;s love and (genuine) concern for his well-being with authority and becomes inclined to submit.  He fails his mother&#8217;s shit-tests by doing what she wants, and grows up to respect the shit-test requests of other women with the same deference he treated his mother&#8217;s request for him to not pee on the toilet seat.  It pains his mother when he defies her, so he grows to respect Woman and to do what She asks him to do.  He&#8217;s submissive and respects women just a little too much.  He might not want to be anything like his father. [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] 2.  The mother wins.  In this case, he interprets his mother&#8217;s guidance/shit-test mixture as quality guidance.  He&#8217;s given up his budding Alpha urge to resist his mother and determined to do the right thing.  He subconsciously associates his mother&#8217;s love and (genuine) concern for his well-being with authority and becomes inclined to submit.  He fails his mother&#8217;s shit-tests by doing what she wants, and grows up to respect the shit-test requests of other women with the same deference he treated his mother&#8217;s request for him to not pee on the toilet seat.  It pains his mother when he defies her, so he grows to respect Woman and to do what She asks him to do.  He&#8217;s submissive and respects women just a little too much.  He might not want to be anything like his father. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Girls love alphas</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/11/21/promise-keepers/comment-page-1/#comment-17647</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Girls love alphas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 03:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Being a beta ain&#039;t bad, just wont get any girls. Betas and omegas, or some call &quot;nice guys&quot; are whiners w/ weak genes.  Alphas, or jerks as the &quot;nice guys&quot; call us are the winners with strong genes and the beta and omega can&#039;t handle that.  Oh girls change once they reach the age of 30 or even 40 and their used up.  They say they want men with experience to be sure they get a nice guy.  Guess what, only the jerks will have experience so you beta and omega losers will lose out while we alphas will still get plenty of pussy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a beta ain&#8217;t bad, just wont get any girls. Betas and omegas, or some call &#8220;nice guys&#8221; are whiners w/ weak genes.  Alphas, or jerks as the &#8220;nice guys&#8221; call us are the winners with strong genes and the beta and omega can&#8217;t handle that.  Oh girls change once they reach the age of 30 or even 40 and their used up.  They say they want men with experience to be sure they get a nice guy.  Guess what, only the jerks will have experience so you beta and omega losers will lose out while we alphas will still get plenty of pussy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dreams of the Future Past &#171;</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/11/21/promise-keepers/comment-page-1/#comment-13374</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dreams of the Future Past &#171;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 19:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] ways), but a confirmed beta when it came to deference to women. Michael has the predictable &#8216;promise keeper&#8217;s&#8216; Oedipus beliefs about his biological father, as a result of his having been raised by a [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] ways), but a confirmed beta when it came to deference to women. Michael has the predictable &#8216;promise keeper&#8217;s&#8216; Oedipus beliefs about his biological father, as a result of his having been raised by a [&#8230;]</p>
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