The comments here also show me just how difficult it is to unplug yourself from The Matrix. I’m surprised at the disagreements with Rollo here. Not that one shouldn’t quesiton or disagree, but personally anyone who is seeking soulmates and LTR’s at 22 needs to seriously re-think things.

Here’s to bravery!

Makes no sense…

[Judging Sluts
The Slut Paradox]

My total experience with the opposite sex is as follows:

2001 – ‘LDR’ with a girl I met in a Yahoo Chat room who lived 400 miles away

2002 – I try ONCE to flirt with a girl at a music store but she senses my desperation and bans me

2003 – I make out with 3 girls and casually flirt with them but one already has a bf, and scare the other two away, one with clinginess, one with a stress related breakdown

2003-2006 – ‘LDR’ with a girl I met on campus and continued to ‘see’ when I moved back home. She lived 150 mi away and broke up with me after graduating herself

2007 – Lived for a year with a platonic female friend with a big city until I hasd to return home to care for a sick relative

2008-present – no attempts to pursue women whatsoever and no attention from them (not surprsing)

So in my life I’ve experienced:

2 LDRs over the computer chat rooms
I’ve been flirtatious with six women (all between age 18-20)
Made out with 3 (all age 20)
Been on ‘dates’ with 2 (both age 20)

At 30, I have an apt, a job, an education I’m in a band, but I’m unable so far to express my sexuality, have no options and havent for many yrs, and have simply found other ways of living my life while I try to figure this all out.

Everybody knows the Jews are those strange guys who rule the world, aka alpha-than-you-who-despise-you-and-will-fuck-you.
It is just what came to my mind. Sorry for the bad taste if you found it offensive, but I thought it was “edgy”.

Really? I thought it was the Illuminati who ruled the world. Or the Rand corporation. Or is it the Bilderbergers? The saucer people?

No, I wasn’t offended by your comment, I just thought it was a non sequitur.

The difference between us, is that probabily you are a liberal and get pleasure from the believe that girls enjoy riding the carouselle. They don’t. They do it because they can and because they “feel high”, but it goes *against* their natures in many, many ways. The carouselle is more of a disgrace for women than for man. To me, the carouselle is evil.

No, I’m not a liberal. By most measures I’m conservative, more so than most other people I personally know.

No I don’t get pleasure from girls riding the carousel. I think it’s a significant contributing factor to the decline of our society. But I also think that I don’t have a whole lot of influence over it. Women are herd creatures and they are reacting, in their own self interested and short sighted way, to the conditions on the ground when choosing to ride the carousel.

I think your claims about whether girls enjoy riding the carousel and why they do it are pure conjecture, and you’re judging it as evil and a disgrace by completely outdated and outmoded standards of propriety. Before you misunderstand me here though, I’m not saying that your standards are morally wrong, I’m saying that they are too divergent from those of society for them to be accurately representative of reality. And I’m not getting the sense that you realize how great this difference is, and the significance of this fact.

Times have moved on and yet you’re still expecting others to live by the standards of fifty years ago. Are you not paying attention to the incredible levels of entitlement that western women have these days? Did you not notice all of the traditional social restraints on their behavior have been removed? Have you read any main stream media article on gender issues? Social standards are more or less a majority rules type of thing, and on this you have been outvoted. Women today can get a lot of validation to act in a different way if they decide they don’t like your idea of what a “quality” woman is.

Or in other words, you and I might agree that the carousel is bad for the future of our society, but enough people in our society have the opposite belief continually reinforced for them that our opinions don’t really matter to anyone but us and the small number of people who agree. Majority rules I’m afraid.

The actual difference between us is that I’ve realized that changing this is too costly and time consuming for it to be worthwhile for me, and you haven’t.