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		<title>By: viclenser</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2014 20:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Getting to this a little late, but I love finding new (to me) articles on your site, Rollo. 

I&#039;m going to come across a little crass, because I don&#039;t know of a more gentle or eloquent way to say this. Also going to be a bit personal. 

In my bedroom, it&#039;s shut the fuck up and do what I say. I don&#039;t need input. I don&#039;t accept input. If she tells me what to do or even makes a mild suggestion, I&#039;ll often do the opposite and establish my dominance in some way. 

I&#039;m not going to insist that this is the true Alpha Way or even the best way, but it&#039;s my way. 

Love-making for me is a long activity. I don&#039;t do quickies, because why do anything but prolong one of the best things in life? I start slow and take my time. 

As far as her orgasm is concerned, in my experience, especially recently in life, her cum rate is around 80% of the time.

Whether she&#039;s faking or not is irrelevant to me, because I get what I want out of it, which is a woman who is (at least seemingly) completely undone by the pleasure I give her. 

It&#039;s intensely gratifying and just really damn fun. 

So, what I&#039;m trying to say is this:
Giving her the fuck of her life should come from a place of because-that&#039;s-what-I-want, not from because-I&#039;m-supposed-to.

Not giving a fuck about what she thinks she wants, taking absolute control, pushing the boundaries of what&#039;s appropriate, ignoring her when she says &quot;ow,&quot; all these things have yielded more gratitude and requests for more sex than the alternative approach ever did for me. 

It goes back to paying more attention to female behavior than to female input. 

I learned much of this mindset from you, Rollo. And it has brought an immense joy and sense of peace to my life. 

Thank you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting to this a little late, but I love finding new (to me) articles on your site, Rollo. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to come across a little crass, because I don&#8217;t know of a more gentle or eloquent way to say this. Also going to be a bit personal. </p>
<p>In my bedroom, it&#8217;s shut the fuck up and do what I say. I don&#8217;t need input. I don&#8217;t accept input. If she tells me what to do or even makes a mild suggestion, I&#8217;ll often do the opposite and establish my dominance in some way. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to insist that this is the true Alpha Way or even the best way, but it&#8217;s my way. </p>
<p>Love-making for me is a long activity. I don&#8217;t do quickies, because why do anything but prolong one of the best things in life? I start slow and take my time. </p>
<p>As far as her orgasm is concerned, in my experience, especially recently in life, her cum rate is around 80% of the time.</p>
<p>Whether she&#8217;s faking or not is irrelevant to me, because I get what I want out of it, which is a woman who is (at least seemingly) completely undone by the pleasure I give her. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s intensely gratifying and just really damn fun. </p>
<p>So, what I&#8217;m trying to say is this:<br />
Giving her the fuck of her life should come from a place of because-that&#8217;s-what-I-want, not from because-I&#8217;m-supposed-to.</p>
<p>Not giving a fuck about what she thinks she wants, taking absolute control, pushing the boundaries of what&#8217;s appropriate, ignoring her when she says &#8220;ow,&#8221; all these things have yielded more gratitude and requests for more sex than the alternative approach ever did for me. </p>
<p>It goes back to paying more attention to female behavior than to female input. </p>
<p>I learned much of this mindset from you, Rollo. And it has brought an immense joy and sense of peace to my life. </p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 18:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;“Do what she says and you’ll be a high value man”

A few months ago, I went to a prom and met a group of girls who talked about their classmates. They were slandering about one beta guy in class, how he&#039;s such a weirdo etc.

&quot;What&#039;s so bad about him?&quot;, I asked
&quot;He always does what you tell him to do&quot;, they replied in a dismissive tone of voice.

It&#039;s stuck in my head ever since.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;“Do what she says and you’ll be a high value man”</p>
<p>A few months ago, I went to a prom and met a group of girls who talked about their classmates. They were slandering about one beta guy in class, how he&#8217;s such a weirdo etc.</p>
<p>&#8220;What&#8217;s so bad about him?&#8221;, I asked<br />
&#8220;He always does what you tell him to do&#8221;, they replied in a dismissive tone of voice.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s stuck in my head ever since.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous12</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/10/15/sex-debt/comment-page-1/#comment-13589</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;@Krauser,
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/08/12/the-difficulty-of-gaming-women-by-age-bracket/ 
    36 to 38 year olds&quot;

Rollo, he does not fuck 36-38 years old - I would mind them.
He&#039;s damaging 20-25 years old - that&#039;s ugly as shit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;@Krauser,<br />
<a href="http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/08/12/the-difficulty-of-gaming-women-by-age-bracket/" rel="nofollow">http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/08/12/the-difficulty-of-gaming-women-by-age-bracket/</a><br />
    36 to 38 year olds&#8221;</p>
<p>Rollo, he does not fuck 36-38 years old &#8211; I would mind them.<br />
He&#8217;s damaging 20-25 years old &#8211; that&#8217;s ugly as shit.</p>
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		<title>By: LIGFY &#8211; Oct 21 &#124; Society of Amateur Gentlemen</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/10/15/sex-debt/comment-page-1/#comment-10944</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LIGFY &#8211; Oct 21 &#124; Society of Amateur Gentlemen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 03:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Rational Male &#8211; Sex Debt, Don’t Be Like Mike, Time’s [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Rational Male &#8211; Sex Debt, Don’t Be Like Mike, Time’s [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: So I came accross an interesting quote&#8230;. &#171; stonerwithaboner</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/10/15/sex-debt/comment-page-1/#comment-10930</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[So I came accross an interesting quote&#8230;. &#171; stonerwithaboner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] “Feminism is the mistaken idea that a society can create gender equalism by focusing exclusively o... -Anon&#8230; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] “Feminism is the mistaken idea that a society can create gender equalism by focusing exclusively o&#8230; -Anon&#8230; [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: [The Art of Faking] &#124; Sardonically Barbed</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/10/15/sex-debt/comment-page-1/#comment-10894</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[[The Art of Faking] &#124; Sardonically Barbed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 05:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] me to the interwebs where I found this wonderful blogger The Rational Male, who has a post titled Sex Debt in which he argues [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] me to the interwebs where I found this wonderful blogger The Rational Male, who has a post titled Sex Debt in which he argues [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Rollo Tomassi</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/10/15/sex-debt/comment-page-1/#comment-10833</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rollo Tomassi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 12:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Krauser,
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/08/12/the-difficulty-of-gaming-women-by-age-bracket/

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;36 to 38 year olds&lt;/b&gt;

She is at peace with her spinsterhood and her failure in the dating market. She will acquiesce easily and gratefully to sex with very little game, as long as you don’t look like a grandpa. Her expectations are so low, it will be a challenge to disappoint her.

If you are prone to guilt, you might feel it when you inevitably dump a woman in this age range. Don’t. Remind yourself that her past is littered with her insouciant dumping of many beta men before you. &lt;b&gt;You are merely an alpha agent of righteous karma.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Krauser,<br />
<a href="http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/08/12/the-difficulty-of-gaming-women-by-age-bracket/" rel="nofollow">http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/08/12/the-difficulty-of-gaming-women-by-age-bracket/</a></p>
<blockquote><p><b>36 to 38 year olds</b></p>
<p>She is at peace with her spinsterhood and her failure in the dating market. She will acquiesce easily and gratefully to sex with very little game, as long as you don’t look like a grandpa. Her expectations are so low, it will be a challenge to disappoint her.</p>
<p>If you are prone to guilt, you might feel it when you inevitably dump a woman in this age range. Don’t. Remind yourself that her past is littered with her insouciant dumping of many beta men before you. <b>You are merely an alpha agent of righteous karma.</b></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: peoplegrowing</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/10/15/sex-debt/comment-page-1/#comment-10823</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 03:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I stated, almost exactly a year ago, that I’d give up the right to vote to see our male/female relationships sorted out right. I don’t like being punished for what past women did. This is just a larger example of the example you gave. I think if we want to see any progress, we have to be willing all the time to stop thinking and acting in this cycle.&lt;/I&gt;

I agree with you in theory, but I think the men here will say, and I will agree, that it needs to be women to take the first step.  Men have chivalrously tolerated each new demand literally for generations, and are only in the last 2-3 generations seeing any pay off, not in actual equity, but in ease of access.  It&#039;s basically the one consolation they&#039;ve got after losing many other privileges and rights.  

If there&#039;s going to be a change, and there SHOULD be, then women need to collectively own up that feminism hasn&#039;t worked out (not just disavow the title and still unknowingly reap the rewards as many, including myself at one time, do).  We will need to apologize and seek/support corrective action, and we will need to bring our sisters aboard and help each other toe the line.


While I don&#039;t think &quot;dump it forward&quot; is a, uh, &quot;kind&quot; policy, it is a fair adaptation to survive in a world where, as Krauserpua points out, many women don&#039;t seriously think twice about flaking on a guy.  Besides, as I understand &quot;pump-n-dump&quot;, you&#039;re generally looking at one night stand, or a verrrrrry brief flirtation stage before you get to the boning.  The &quot;good&quot; girls who don&#039;t put out won&#039;t get hurt, and the rest of the girls are probably either sluts who don&#039;t attach well anyhow, or else, they were young enough to make a mistake, and won&#039;t make that mistake again - unless they become sluts. ^-^]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I stated, almost exactly a year ago, that I’d give up the right to vote to see our male/female relationships sorted out right. I don’t like being punished for what past women did. This is just a larger example of the example you gave. I think if we want to see any progress, we have to be willing all the time to stop thinking and acting in this cycle.</i></p>
<p>I agree with you in theory, but I think the men here will say, and I will agree, that it needs to be women to take the first step.  Men have chivalrously tolerated each new demand literally for generations, and are only in the last 2-3 generations seeing any pay off, not in actual equity, but in ease of access.  It&#8217;s basically the one consolation they&#8217;ve got after losing many other privileges and rights.  </p>
<p>If there&#8217;s going to be a change, and there SHOULD be, then women need to collectively own up that feminism hasn&#8217;t worked out (not just disavow the title and still unknowingly reap the rewards as many, including myself at one time, do).  We will need to apologize and seek/support corrective action, and we will need to bring our sisters aboard and help each other toe the line.</p>
<p>While I don&#8217;t think &#8220;dump it forward&#8221; is a, uh, &#8220;kind&#8221; policy, it is a fair adaptation to survive in a world where, as Krauserpua points out, many women don&#8217;t seriously think twice about flaking on a guy.  Besides, as I understand &#8220;pump-n-dump&#8221;, you&#8217;re generally looking at one night stand, or a verrrrrry brief flirtation stage before you get to the boning.  The &#8220;good&#8221; girls who don&#8217;t put out won&#8217;t get hurt, and the rest of the girls are probably either sluts who don&#8217;t attach well anyhow, or else, they were young enough to make a mistake, and won&#8217;t make that mistake again &#8211; unless they become sluts. ^-^</p>
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