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		<title>By: Small Update, October 11th 2012 &#171; Manosphere Links</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/07/27/pathologizing-the-male-sexual-response/comment-page-1/#comment-10737</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Small Update, October 11th 2012 &#171; Manosphere Links]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 21:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] One of the more insidious social narratives that the feminine imperative has convinced us of is that the inherent flaw(s) of maleness can only be ‘cured’ by uniquely female means. This is an easy narrative to follow since most modern storytelling (TV, movies, books) revolves around women’s influence being the only solution to men’s moronic, uniquely male, self-inflicted problems. http://rationalmale.wordpress.com/2012/07/27/pathologizing-the-male-sexual-response/ [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] One of the more insidious social narratives that the feminine imperative has convinced us of is that the inherent flaw(s) of maleness can only be ‘cured’ by uniquely female means. This is an easy narrative to follow since most modern storytelling (TV, movies, books) revolves around women’s influence being the only solution to men’s moronic, uniquely male, self-inflicted problems. <a href="http://rationalmale.wordpress.com/2012/07/27/pathologizing-the-male-sexual-response/" rel="nofollow">http://rationalmale.wordpress.com/2012/07/27/pathologizing-the-male-sexual-response/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Catching Up &#171; Manosphere Links</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/07/27/pathologizing-the-male-sexual-response/comment-page-1/#comment-10700</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Catching Up &#171; Manosphere Links]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 03:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Masculinity sex addition BS, normal male sexuality http://rationalmale.wordpress.com/2012/07/27/pathologizing-the-male-sexual-response/ [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Masculinity sex addition BS, normal male sexuality <a href="http://rationalmale.wordpress.com/2012/07/27/pathologizing-the-male-sexual-response/" rel="nofollow">http://rationalmale.wordpress.com/2012/07/27/pathologizing-the-male-sexual-response/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Thasswhatimtalkinbout</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/07/27/pathologizing-the-male-sexual-response/comment-page-1/#comment-8378</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thasswhatimtalkinbout]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2012 18:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can&#039;t talk seriously about what over-indulging in sex means if you don&#039;t distinguish between compulsive and impulsive behaviors. 

Compulsions are repetitive, rigidly performed behaviors whose purpose is likely relief from psychological pain, not gratification. Compulsions typically cause distress and interfere with functioning. Think of an OCD who isn&#039;t certain he turned the stove off -- not a happy person.  

By contrast, impulsive behavior is when you can&#039;t resist desires that involve pleasure and gratification. Being driven by pleasure is not the same as being driven to reduce inner pain and depression. Impulsive behavior is what little kids do -- no boundaries, no limits, no off-switch. 

The test is between sexually compulsive and sexually impulsive behavior is how you feel after you&#039;ve shot your load. 

If you feel the monkey is off your back and you&#039;ll never do that again, you&#039;re probably compulsive. Of course, you&#039;ll be back to the same old-same old the second the monkey again climbs aboard. Like drunks promising today is the day they finally get cleaned up. Which lasts until the hangover wears off.

If you feel &quot;wow, that was fun and I can&#039;t wait to do it again,&quot; then you&#039;re probably being impulsive. Clinton may have used bad judgment regarding Monica, but I doubt he felt bad about the fun they had.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t talk seriously about what over-indulging in sex means if you don&#8217;t distinguish between compulsive and impulsive behaviors. </p>
<p>Compulsions are repetitive, rigidly performed behaviors whose purpose is likely relief from psychological pain, not gratification. Compulsions typically cause distress and interfere with functioning. Think of an OCD who isn&#8217;t certain he turned the stove off &#8212; not a happy person.  </p>
<p>By contrast, impulsive behavior is when you can&#8217;t resist desires that involve pleasure and gratification. Being driven by pleasure is not the same as being driven to reduce inner pain and depression. Impulsive behavior is what little kids do &#8212; no boundaries, no limits, no off-switch. </p>
<p>The test is between sexually compulsive and sexually impulsive behavior is how you feel after you&#8217;ve shot your load. </p>
<p>If you feel the monkey is off your back and you&#8217;ll never do that again, you&#8217;re probably compulsive. Of course, you&#8217;ll be back to the same old-same old the second the monkey again climbs aboard. Like drunks promising today is the day they finally get cleaned up. Which lasts until the hangover wears off.</p>
<p>If you feel &#8220;wow, that was fun and I can&#8217;t wait to do it again,&#8221; then you&#8217;re probably being impulsive. Clinton may have used bad judgment regarding Monica, but I doubt he felt bad about the fun they had.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/07/27/pathologizing-the-male-sexual-response/comment-page-1/#comment-8267</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 14:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rollo, did you watch the movie &#039;Shame&#039;? It&#039;s not a movie about sex addiction, it&#039;s a character study about a man with poor sexual boundaries, from an obviously troubled family, who deals with his problems of self-worth by debasing himself. 

I like your writing and your blog, but this movie has a powerful message, and one that shouldn&#039;t be perverted by mapping it onto a power struggle between the sexes-- his sister in the movie has similar problems to him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rollo, did you watch the movie &#8216;Shame&#8217;? It&#8217;s not a movie about sex addiction, it&#8217;s a character study about a man with poor sexual boundaries, from an obviously troubled family, who deals with his problems of self-worth by debasing himself. </p>
<p>I like your writing and your blog, but this movie has a powerful message, and one that shouldn&#8217;t be perverted by mapping it onto a power struggle between the sexes&#8211; his sister in the movie has similar problems to him.</p>
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		<title>By: GeishaKate</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/07/27/pathologizing-the-male-sexual-response/comment-page-1/#comment-8161</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GeishaKate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Men wanting sex is not a problem; men not wanting sex is.  

:)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Men wanting sex is not a problem; men not wanting sex is.<br />
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		<title>By: Alexandre Takahashi</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/07/27/pathologizing-the-male-sexual-response/comment-page-1/#comment-8160</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexandre Takahashi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, people (girls and plugged betas) tend to shun any explicit sexual attitude. It happened to me, soon after unplugging I was eager to show my new sexual, ferocious alpha wolf of the pack attitude. One of the girls of my social circle called me out on this, saying: &quot;Gosh, you sound like an animal!&quot;. Only to, at a party, make out passionately with me saying how wet I made her...
Moral of the story, don&#039;t let social conventions (since most of them are feminized) take you out of the masculine way. Be a man, be proud to be a man and proud of everything that makes you masculine. Don&#039;t be afraid to be a little savage sometimes.
BE A MAN!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, people (girls and plugged betas) tend to shun any explicit sexual attitude. It happened to me, soon after unplugging I was eager to show my new sexual, ferocious alpha wolf of the pack attitude. One of the girls of my social circle called me out on this, saying: &#8220;Gosh, you sound like an animal!&#8221;. Only to, at a party, make out passionately with me saying how wet I made her&#8230;<br />
Moral of the story, don&#8217;t let social conventions (since most of them are feminized) take you out of the masculine way. Be a man, be proud to be a man and proud of everything that makes you masculine. Don&#8217;t be afraid to be a little savage sometimes.<br />
BE A MAN!</p>
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		<title>By: Rollo Tomassi</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/07/27/pathologizing-the-male-sexual-response/comment-page-1/#comment-8159</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rollo Tomassi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In light of recent comments here I feel like I should add some clarity to this post.  My intent with bringing to light the new pathology of male sexuality isn&#039;t to debate the effects of porn or an un-self-restricted sexual response in males. If anything I&#039;ve argued for more self-restraint with regards to masturbation in prior posts:
https://rationalmale.wordpress.com/2011/11/17/the-pheromonal-beta/

My issue is with the wholesale pathologizing of the male sexual response as a means to effect social control over men. Imagine for a moment applying the same degree of social shaming about sex we accept as normal for men to women. Make even a slight mention that a woman use more restraint in her sexual habits and you&#039;d be reprimanded for sexual harassment or worse. This is the contrast I&#039;m getting at.

It&#039;s not that I don&#039;t recognize the deleterious physical and psychological effects a &#039;dependency&#039; on porn can mean to men; it&#039;s the new commodification of that dependency that I&#039;m addressing here. It&#039;s the presumption that ALL men are sex addicts, or potential sex addicts. On a social engineering level this is a classic marketeering schema – convince the consumer of their &#039;problem&#039; and sell them the cure you already have available to solve it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In light of recent comments here I feel like I should add some clarity to this post.  My intent with bringing to light the new pathology of male sexuality isn&#8217;t to debate the effects of porn or an un-self-restricted sexual response in males. If anything I&#8217;ve argued for more self-restraint with regards to masturbation in prior posts:<br />
<a href="https://rationalmale.wordpress.com/2011/11/17/the-pheromonal-beta/" rel="nofollow">https://rationalmale.wordpress.com/2011/11/17/the-pheromonal-beta/</a></p>
<p>My issue is with the wholesale pathologizing of the male sexual response as a means to effect social control over men. Imagine for a moment applying the same degree of social shaming about sex we accept as normal for men to women. Make even a slight mention that a woman use more restraint in her sexual habits and you&#8217;d be reprimanded for sexual harassment or worse. This is the contrast I&#8217;m getting at.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that I don&#8217;t recognize the deleterious physical and psychological effects a &#8216;dependency&#8217; on porn can mean to men; it&#8217;s the new commodification of that dependency that I&#8217;m addressing here. It&#8217;s the presumption that ALL men are sex addicts, or potential sex addicts. On a social engineering level this is a classic marketeering schema – convince the consumer of their &#8216;problem&#8217; and sell them the cure you already have available to solve it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikä miehiä vaivaa? &#171; mgtowfi</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/07/27/pathologizing-the-male-sexual-response/comment-page-1/#comment-8157</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mikä miehiä vaivaa? &#171; mgtowfi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The Rational Male kirjoitti aiheeseen liittyvän artikkelin, jossa analysoitiin tuoretta elokuvaa nimeltä Shame. Elokuvan päähenkilö on seksiaddikti, joka ei vilkkaasta seksielämästään riippumatta luo henkistä yhteyttä naisiin ja kokee sen takia elämänsä tyhjäksi. Tuo aukko miehen sielussa, jonka vain nainen voi täyttää on romanttisen kirjallisuuden keskeinen trooppi ja se on myös keskeisin fiktiivinen trooppi, jolla parisuhdetta myydään miehille elämän tärkeimpänä saavutuksena. Nainen, joka kykenee täyttämään miehen henkisen aukon on näissä tarinoissa miehen elämän tarkoitus. Hän on se oikea, jonka ansiosta miehen elämä saa tarkoituksen ja jonka ansiosta hän on valmis uhraamaan kaiken. Naiset, jotka pystyvät tarjoamaan tyhjän seksin sijasta henkisen korkin miehen sielulle ovat miehen pelastavia enkeleitä ja nykynaiset tuntevat roolinsa varsin hyvin. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Rational Male kirjoitti aiheeseen liittyvän artikkelin, jossa analysoitiin tuoretta elokuvaa nimeltä Shame. Elokuvan päähenkilö on seksiaddikti, joka ei vilkkaasta seksielämästään riippumatta luo henkistä yhteyttä naisiin ja kokee sen takia elämänsä tyhjäksi. Tuo aukko miehen sielussa, jonka vain nainen voi täyttää on romanttisen kirjallisuuden keskeinen trooppi ja se on myös keskeisin fiktiivinen trooppi, jolla parisuhdetta myydään miehille elämän tärkeimpänä saavutuksena. Nainen, joka kykenee täyttämään miehen henkisen aukon on näissä tarinoissa miehen elämän tarkoitus. Hän on se oikea, jonka ansiosta miehen elämä saa tarkoituksen ja jonka ansiosta hän on valmis uhraamaan kaiken. Naiset, jotka pystyvät tarjoamaan tyhjän seksin sijasta henkisen korkin miehen sielulle ovat miehen pelastavia enkeleitä ja nykynaiset tuntevat roolinsa varsin hyvin. [...]</p>
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