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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/07/13/is-seduction-real/comment-page-1/#comment-70481</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2014 12:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seduction is a mind game not a physical one.  Sure it may end up with sexual gratification but seduction is to delay the gratification and maintain the sexual energy and tension for as long as possible . 
And it isn&#039;t about picking up girls, there can be seduction within a marriage, it isn&#039;t just in the domain of singles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seduction is a mind game not a physical one.  Sure it may end up with sexual gratification but seduction is to delay the gratification and maintain the sexual energy and tension for as long as possible .<br />
And it isn&#8217;t about picking up girls, there can be seduction within a marriage, it isn&#8217;t just in the domain of singles.</p>
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		<title>By: Djeed</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/07/13/is-seduction-real/comment-page-1/#comment-13339</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 11:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do not understand. If you really have a mindset of abundance... What the hell do you care? You go for everything with the right attitude, sexual but not giving a shit about rejection. You go for the yes, for the noes, for the maybes, take the ones that want you and keep being sexual with the rest. Isn&#039;t that what it&#039;s all about, desiring women?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not understand. If you really have a mindset of abundance&#8230; What the hell do you care? You go for everything with the right attitude, sexual but not giving a shit about rejection. You go for the yes, for the noes, for the maybes, take the ones that want you and keep being sexual with the rest. Isn&#8217;t that what it&#8217;s all about, desiring women?</p>
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		<title>By: The One Reason</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/07/13/is-seduction-real/comment-page-1/#comment-7570</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 04:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Myself:
&lt;i&gt;But the constant willingness to engage with the girls and have interest to endure the hours of conversation to convert those on the fence is indeed something that I personally have to improve upon.&lt;/i&gt;

To elaborate on this, a case in point: I&#039;ve now started a holiday in Sunny Scotland and on departure, on the airport bus to the plane, I hit a very bodilicious girl (think young Jennifer Hawkins) standing next to me (I was sitting) with a neg about her wearing shades when it was raining outside. We had a short give-and-take as she immediately went along, clearly piqued by my approach (and probably sharp attire) and the sudden possibility to joke around. But after just a short exchange I chickened out as I panicked with mind blanking, and turned to watch out of the window to save my worthless ass. That of course killed the momentum and it was all over in a blink with DHV diving to DLV. Or hopefully she thought it was intentionally cool and teasing... Sure.

The worst thing was that in my panic I actually totally missed that she not only was fully aboard my banter but actually gave me material herself by talking about needing the shades &quot;right now&quot;. I understood when it was already too late that I could have replied with telling her not to drink so much that she needs shades the next morning and continued there. Test. Failed. Ego investment in a no-re-engagement rule I guess.

Indeed, if a girl has interest in you, is open enough in character and wants you to succeed in talking to her, &lt;i&gt;she will give you material&lt;/i&gt; to continue gingling her. Which of course leads closer to a seduction. Hell, her hamster carries those yummy pellets itself to the PUA.

There would have been little possibility for a # close with us being almost at he plane and her uglier friend (who stood farther away in the bus, disapproving) rejoining her on the plane stairs, but Game is about enjoying the Ladies in any way possible.

Which brings me to wondering whether it&#039;s a totally chode-ian mindset which I have about jumping off prematurely; I immediately have this feeling that I&#039;ve somehow &quot;betrayed&quot; her by raising her interest (giving the early &#039;gina tingles) and then chickening out and leaving her dry, literally. Of not being a man and carrying the interaction even though it would leave me totally failing as I bomb in front of her, instead of exiting safely as the first snag rears its head. Of course I&#039;m the one initiating the approach and thus having the &quot;right&quot; to end it - and girls wouldn&#039;t hesitate to drop me from a convo if I wasn&#039;t what they wanted. But still.

I don&#039;t myself think that I&#039;m pedestalizing too much because I truly love girls who can take a flirt in a sporty, not too attention-whorish way and think on their feet cleverly when engaged. For me, after all the point, basis and truth of Game comes from &lt;i&gt;loving&lt;/i&gt; girls (to a point, as for ex. Rollo&#039;s excellent &quot;Pet&quot; post attests), in a non-ONEitis way. In this respect I&#039;m with London&#039;s Yad as he gave his philosophy on the matter in the Saturday Sarge video series.

I&#039;ve a somewhat Krauserian approach [edit: didn&#039;t know that K himself commented above as I wrote this offline] to electronic game (encompassing text/email/FB/IM) in tone, OK, a lot less sexual, heh, but I&#039;ve indeed called the email since the mid-1990s &quot;the IQ test&quot; which gave me a good sense of the level of humour and suitability of a girl. And the time lag allowing me to utilize my strengths. The best of those being the other half of a couple for whom I designed their new house, and even though I only threw in light innuendos, I guess she got some thrill from our semi-illicit, all-over-the-place, not exactly professional messaging.
 
This was almost as long as a King A post. OK, a couple of hours to get sleep, then to the far ends of Highland. And a whisky distillery.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Myself:<br />
<i>But the constant willingness to engage with the girls and have interest to endure the hours of conversation to convert those on the fence is indeed something that I personally have to improve upon.</i></p>
<p>To elaborate on this, a case in point: I&#8217;ve now started a holiday in Sunny Scotland and on departure, on the airport bus to the plane, I hit a very bodilicious girl (think young Jennifer Hawkins) standing next to me (I was sitting) with a neg about her wearing shades when it was raining outside. We had a short give-and-take as she immediately went along, clearly piqued by my approach (and probably sharp attire) and the sudden possibility to joke around. But after just a short exchange I chickened out as I panicked with mind blanking, and turned to watch out of the window to save my worthless ass. That of course killed the momentum and it was all over in a blink with DHV diving to DLV. Or hopefully she thought it was intentionally cool and teasing&#8230; Sure.</p>
<p>The worst thing was that in my panic I actually totally missed that she not only was fully aboard my banter but actually gave me material herself by talking about needing the shades &#8220;right now&#8221;. I understood when it was already too late that I could have replied with telling her not to drink so much that she needs shades the next morning and continued there. Test. Failed. Ego investment in a no-re-engagement rule I guess.</p>
<p>Indeed, if a girl has interest in you, is open enough in character and wants you to succeed in talking to her, <i>she will give you material</i> to continue gingling her. Which of course leads closer to a seduction. Hell, her hamster carries those yummy pellets itself to the PUA.</p>
<p>There would have been little possibility for a # close with us being almost at he plane and her uglier friend (who stood farther away in the bus, disapproving) rejoining her on the plane stairs, but Game is about enjoying the Ladies in any way possible.</p>
<p>Which brings me to wondering whether it&#8217;s a totally chode-ian mindset which I have about jumping off prematurely; I immediately have this feeling that I&#8217;ve somehow &#8220;betrayed&#8221; her by raising her interest (giving the early &#8216;gina tingles) and then chickening out and leaving her dry, literally. Of not being a man and carrying the interaction even though it would leave me totally failing as I bomb in front of her, instead of exiting safely as the first snag rears its head. Of course I&#8217;m the one initiating the approach and thus having the &#8220;right&#8221; to end it &#8211; and girls wouldn&#8217;t hesitate to drop me from a convo if I wasn&#8217;t what they wanted. But still.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t myself think that I&#8217;m pedestalizing too much because I truly love girls who can take a flirt in a sporty, not too attention-whorish way and think on their feet cleverly when engaged. For me, after all the point, basis and truth of Game comes from <i>loving</i> girls (to a point, as for ex. Rollo&#8217;s excellent &#8220;Pet&#8221; post attests), in a non-ONEitis way. In this respect I&#8217;m with London&#8217;s Yad as he gave his philosophy on the matter in the Saturday Sarge video series.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve a somewhat Krauserian approach [edit: didn&#8217;t know that K himself commented above as I wrote this offline] to electronic game (encompassing text/email/FB/IM) in tone, OK, a lot less sexual, heh, but I&#8217;ve indeed called the email since the mid-1990s &#8220;the IQ test&#8221; which gave me a good sense of the level of humour and suitability of a girl. And the time lag allowing me to utilize my strengths. The best of those being the other half of a couple for whom I designed their new house, and even though I only threw in light innuendos, I guess she got some thrill from our semi-illicit, all-over-the-place, not exactly professional messaging.</p>
<p>This was almost as long as a King A post. OK, a couple of hours to get sleep, then to the far ends of Highland. And a whisky distillery.</p>
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		<title>By: krauserpua</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 23:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I try to filter girls into Yes / No / Maybe as soon as possible. Yes girls are about leading and not fucking up, No girls are to be screened out as soon as possible. All the skill of game is in Maybe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I try to filter girls into Yes / No / Maybe as soon as possible. Yes girls are about leading and not fucking up, No girls are to be screened out as soon as possible. All the skill of game is in Maybe.</p>
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		<title>By: Rollo Tomassi</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dean</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First off I am going to say that when I first read about &quot;taking the red pill&quot; I thought it was all bullsh!t. I thought here are some guys who have been hurt and are now woman haters and bashers. Then a few days later as i was walking around I could see the examples of &quot;Beta Males&quot; and AFC (myself included). At my job,hearing my friends complain about their women/wives/GFs,  in the stores, the gym; wherever. 
Then I went back and read and clicked on posts like the &quot;G Manifesto&quot;, &quot;The Lifestyle&quot; and even that Big Game blog one. 
So I I set up some dates and listened to how women talk and a lot of it paralleled what all these blogs were saying. Yes! The red pill tasted bitter alright!It went down like those old school multi-vitamin capsules. Hard to swallow and went down slow but gave me all what i needed. 
The next thing thing was to apply all what i have learned. The &quot;16 rules&quot; perfect..
So I was on a date last night and the girl says that she will know within a few minutes if she will bang you or not. After I smashed it of course. So to chime in on is men have seduction, do we? Yes! Its our charm, taking control and leading like men should do. Thats what gets their panties wet. 
Once again thanks for all the great insight! It feels great to be unplugged let me tell you...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off I am going to say that when I first read about &#8220;taking the red pill&#8221; I thought it was all bullsh!t. I thought here are some guys who have been hurt and are now woman haters and bashers. Then a few days later as i was walking around I could see the examples of &#8220;Beta Males&#8221; and AFC (myself included). At my job,hearing my friends complain about their women/wives/GFs,  in the stores, the gym; wherever.<br />
Then I went back and read and clicked on posts like the &#8220;G Manifesto&#8221;, &#8220;The Lifestyle&#8221; and even that Big Game blog one.<br />
So I I set up some dates and listened to how women talk and a lot of it paralleled what all these blogs were saying. Yes! The red pill tasted bitter alright!It went down like those old school multi-vitamin capsules. Hard to swallow and went down slow but gave me all what i needed.<br />
The next thing thing was to apply all what i have learned. The &#8220;16 rules&#8221; perfect..<br />
So I was on a date last night and the girl says that she will know within a few minutes if she will bang you or not. After I smashed it of course. So to chime in on is men have seduction, do we? Yes! Its our charm, taking control and leading like men should do. Thats what gets their panties wet.<br />
Once again thanks for all the great insight! It feels great to be unplugged let me tell you&#8230;</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 04:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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