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	<title>Comments on: Ultimatum</title>
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		<title>By: NoMoreGames</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/05/07/ultimatum/comment-page-1/#comment-83526</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NoMoreGames]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2015 18:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And as far a the second shift statement --- same as men say when they babysit their children.  Indicates the message, I&#039;m owed for what I am doing and baby you&#039;d better comply.  Such statements are not spoken by people desiring to be in the relationship.  Those relationships are in trouble.
But who give a bleep because single people with equal to poor behavior  are a dime a dozen - leave when it isn&#039;t working out for you :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And as far a the second shift statement &#8212; same as men say when they babysit their children.  Indicates the message, I&#8217;m owed for what I am doing and baby you&#8217;d better comply.  Such statements are not spoken by people desiring to be in the relationship.  Those relationships are in trouble.<br />
But who give a bleep because single people with equal to poor behavior  are a dime a dozen &#8211; leave when it isn&#8217;t working out for you <span class='wp-smiley wp-emoji wp-emoji-smile' title=':)'>:)</span></p>
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		<title>By: NoMoreGames</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/05/07/ultimatum/comment-page-1/#comment-83523</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NoMoreGames]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2015 18:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hmmm, utlimatums and games and power.  As a woman, I allowed my first man of 30 years to game on me -- never again.  No man is worth all that is written here, nor any woman for that matter.  Relationships are about respect each other and valuing each other not getting oneself a dog.  So ... game it on and you will lose your love. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm, utlimatums and games and power.  As a woman, I allowed my first man of 30 years to game on me &#8212; never again.  No man is worth all that is written here, nor any woman for that matter.  Relationships are about respect each other and valuing each other not getting oneself a dog.  So &#8230; game it on and you will lose your love. <span class='wp-smiley wp-emoji wp-emoji-smile' title=':)'>:)</span></p>
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		<title>By: Boundaries &#124;</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/05/07/ultimatum/comment-page-1/#comment-68812</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boundaries &#124;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2014 00:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] and the other, where an active (and equally reasoned) explicating of boundaries are overtly declared as an ultimatum in an effort to protect a man against the parental investment risks of being cuckolded by a woman [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] and the other, where an active (and equally reasoned) explicating of boundaries are overtly declared as an ultimatum in an effort to protect a man against the parental investment risks of being cuckolded by a woman [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Titanic</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/05/07/ultimatum/comment-page-1/#comment-32592</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2014 13:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is exactly what struck me as weak in Leif&#039;s refusal of Jenny&#039;s LJBF ... in came in the form of an ultimatum and therefore signaled a significant level of powerlessness.

You&#039;ve got to start somewhere though ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is exactly what struck me as weak in Leif&#8217;s refusal of Jenny&#8217;s LJBF &#8230; in came in the form of an ultimatum and therefore signaled a significant level of powerlessness.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve got to start somewhere though &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: groverman</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/05/07/ultimatum/comment-page-1/#comment-31608</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[groverman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Feb 2014 09:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i recently fucked up by giving a woman i had been chasing for a long while a begging ultimatum.  It was, as Rollo says, an indication of my powerlessness in getting her to treat me with respect. Accordingly, I didn&#039;t even get a reply. Her silent treatment then baulked me into being the one who then announced that the whole thing was over:  &quot;that&#039;s it; it&#039;s over&quot;. She kept her cool -- or basically didn&#039;t care -- she didn&#039;t say one word at the time or in the five months since. I shot myself in the head. Never give an ultimatum.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i recently fucked up by giving a woman i had been chasing for a long while a begging ultimatum.  It was, as Rollo says, an indication of my powerlessness in getting her to treat me with respect. Accordingly, I didn&#8217;t even get a reply. Her silent treatment then baulked me into being the one who then announced that the whole thing was over:  &#8220;that&#8217;s it; it&#8217;s over&#8221;. She kept her cool &#8212; or basically didn&#8217;t care &#8212; she didn&#8217;t say one word at the time or in the five months since. I shot myself in the head. Never give an ultimatum.</p>
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		<title>By: Financial Frame &#124; The Reinvention of Man</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/05/07/ultimatum/comment-page-1/#comment-27499</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Financial Frame &#124; The Reinvention of Man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Dec 2013 04:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] and the woman is pleasant, but such a relationship is becomes dangerous for a man as soon as he is not getting his needs and desires met and who does not set the frame to HIS reality in such a relationship.  When men fail to set the [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] and the woman is pleasant, but such a relationship is becomes dangerous for a man as soon as he is not getting his needs and desires met and who does not set the frame to HIS reality in such a relationship.  When men fail to set the [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: deadliftman</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/05/07/ultimatum/comment-page-1/#comment-23576</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2013 16:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t get what your alternative was? Setting rules and boundaries? When do you set those boundaries? A lot depends on that. If you set them at the beginning of a relationship, you are setting the frame. If you set them after she did something that you did not like, that&#039;s as good as an ultimatum.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t get what your alternative was? Setting rules and boundaries? When do you set those boundaries? A lot depends on that. If you set them at the beginning of a relationship, you are setting the frame. If you set them after she did something that you did not like, that&#8217;s as good as an ultimatum.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark in Orlando</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/05/07/ultimatum/comment-page-1/#comment-11375</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark in Orlando]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 18:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[if you give her an ultimatum that you will cut her out of your life, it frees you, and that is the power]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you give her an ultimatum that you will cut her out of your life, it frees you, and that is the power</p>
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