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		<title>By: Preventative Medicine – Part I &#124;</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Preventative Medicine – Part I &#124;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2014 02:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] feminine imperative and feminine social primacy. I&#8217;ve covered aspects of this prevention in Hear Me Now, Believe Me Later, but this post was more of an after-the-fact perspective from older men&#8217;s experiences, and [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] feminine imperative and feminine social primacy. I&#8217;ve covered aspects of this prevention in Hear Me Now, Believe Me Later, but this post was more of an after-the-fact perspective from older men&#8217;s experiences, and [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: I am Single Again (And I Should Have Been All Along) &#124; The Reinvention of Man</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I am Single Again (And I Should Have Been All Along) &#124; The Reinvention of Man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Dec 2013 21:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] my ability to game her waned as might be expected in this circumstance.  Going through the red pill awaking process and learning game does hammer on a man’s self worth and self esteem at [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] my ability to game her waned as might be expected in this circumstance.  Going through the red pill awaking process and learning game does hammer on a man’s self worth and self esteem at [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2012 21:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is important in becoming a man to go through pain and struggles. That is also part of how I entered Game (to begin with it didn&#039;t even directly deal with getting women, as it was at first more about getting through tough situations). Many people are self-righteous (such as, putting down Game/Masculinity) because they have been insulated since childhood through getting a cushy career and thus have never had to go through much pain/struggles, so they consider their current beliefs as being the only correct view, so when they are knocked off their high-horse they are finally able to take a look around to think/see things differently.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is important in becoming a man to go through pain and struggles. That is also part of how I entered Game (to begin with it didn&#8217;t even directly deal with getting women, as it was at first more about getting through tough situations). Many people are self-righteous (such as, putting down Game/Masculinity) because they have been insulated since childhood through getting a cushy career and thus have never had to go through much pain/struggles, so they consider their current beliefs as being the only correct view, so when they are knocked off their high-horse they are finally able to take a look around to think/see things differently.</p>
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		<title>By: YOHAMI</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[YOHAMI]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2012 02:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Why the hell would we be made to not fulfill that?&quot;

The two sides of evolution. Males compete, females select. Different instincts and drives etc. We&#039;re specialized. While men are fighting the war and dying, females are protecting the resources and creating the offspring. And I think this was meant to happen in a shorter span. Modernity and civilization fucked this up, or, or base nature keeps fucking civilization, which is based on all those male ideals.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why the hell would we be made to not fulfill that?&#8221;</p>
<p>The two sides of evolution. Males compete, females select. Different instincts and drives etc. We&#8217;re specialized. While men are fighting the war and dying, females are protecting the resources and creating the offspring. And I think this was meant to happen in a shorter span. Modernity and civilization fucked this up, or, or base nature keeps fucking civilization, which is based on all those male ideals.</p>
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		<title>By: Stingray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stingray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2012 02:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kuraje,

I understand the female side well, I think.  I am trying to now figure out male love.  I did not realize the two were so very different.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kuraje,</p>
<p>I understand the female side well, I think.  I am trying to now figure out male love.  I did not realize the two were so very different.</p>
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		<title>By: Stingray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stingray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2012 02:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yohami,  

Please don&#039;t turn gay.  You would make all the girls cry . . . . .

;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yohami,  </p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t turn gay.  You would make all the girls cry . . . . .<br />
 <span class='wp-smiley wp-emoji wp-emoji-wink' title=';)'>;)</span></p>
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		<title>By: Stingray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stingray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2012 02:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;that love as you know doesnt exist. &lt;/i&gt;

Love like you described, no I don&#039;t think it does.  It actually is a bit frightening, because to live up to that, as a woman, would be impossible.  But love does exist.  I live it everyday.  But I know that I am not my husbands life, nor would I want to be.  I was lucky enough to be chosen to follow him in his life and aid him in anyway I can.  Some men call this a mission and I am sure others have other names.  I could not ever be his mission, but is an honor to be chosen to help him and stand by him in his.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>that love as you know doesnt exist. </i></p>
<p>Love like you described, no I don&#8217;t think it does.  It actually is a bit frightening, because to live up to that, as a woman, would be impossible.  But love does exist.  I live it everyday.  But I know that I am not my husbands life, nor would I want to be.  I was lucky enough to be chosen to follow him in his life and aid him in anyway I can.  Some men call this a mission and I am sure others have other names.  I could not ever be his mission, but is an honor to be chosen to help him and stand by him in his.</p>
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		<title>By: YOHAMI</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[YOHAMI]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2012 02:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Think of the male drive. It a jump on the nothingness. You compete against other guys, you get tested day and night and are disposable. The pedestal is what makes you wake up and try again. 

Think of the sperm trying to reach that ideal ovule that might not even be there. 

Think of the thousands of male insects that all flight chasing that sole female princess ant. Only one will catch her, but they all try the same. And then when they catch her, the male dies and she carries with the offspring. I dont think the male saw that coming, he probably thought &quot;phew Im saved, Im gonna live happily ever after&quot;. 

Thing is, male love resides up there, with the virtues, plato, the law and the beauty and the gods. It inspires you to create and do larger than life stuff and to reach into the extraordinary - or it destroys you. It&#039;s not a mundane thing. It&#039;s not based on how you make him feel or what you give him. 

I dont think men &quot;deserve&quot; to be loved back. That stuff is there so we push and push and push and push and reach or die trying. The goal is to pass the genes - fuck your happiness. But men &quot;deserve&quot; the truth about it.  

I know I cant be loved the same way I can love. Unless I turn gay. That&#039;s sad though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think of the male drive. It a jump on the nothingness. You compete against other guys, you get tested day and night and are disposable. The pedestal is what makes you wake up and try again. </p>
<p>Think of the sperm trying to reach that ideal ovule that might not even be there. </p>
<p>Think of the thousands of male insects that all flight chasing that sole female princess ant. Only one will catch her, but they all try the same. And then when they catch her, the male dies and she carries with the offspring. I dont think the male saw that coming, he probably thought &#8220;phew Im saved, Im gonna live happily ever after&#8221;. </p>
<p>Thing is, male love resides up there, with the virtues, plato, the law and the beauty and the gods. It inspires you to create and do larger than life stuff and to reach into the extraordinary &#8211; or it destroys you. It&#8217;s not a mundane thing. It&#8217;s not based on how you make him feel or what you give him. </p>
<p>I dont think men &#8220;deserve&#8221; to be loved back. That stuff is there so we push and push and push and push and reach or die trying. The goal is to pass the genes &#8211; fuck your happiness. But men &#8220;deserve&#8221; the truth about it.  </p>
<p>I know I cant be loved the same way I can love. Unless I turn gay. That&#8217;s sad though.</p>
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