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		<title>By: Winnowing the Weak &#124; Donal Graeme</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/02/29/what-lies-beneath/comment-page-1/#comment-19007</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Winnowing the Weak &#124; Donal Graeme]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Apr 2013 20:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of sexual harassment laws over at Sunshinemary&#8217;s site, Rollo Tomassi plugged a link to a post of his concerning how people react to a woman abusing a man in public. Reading through his post, one [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] of sexual harassment laws over at Sunshinemary&#8217;s site, Rollo Tomassi plugged a link to a post of his concerning how people react to a woman abusing a man in public. Reading through his post, one [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Hopeless Romantic</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/02/29/what-lies-beneath/comment-page-1/#comment-12104</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 22:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Dominance, control and even BDSM fetish is deep in every woman. It is a taboo, because of not giving any funny ideas to rapists – guys who think women will love them, because they like it rough. Sadistic deviants rapists are another story – taboos like this are just an excuse at best.

Google ‘ top 10 female sexual fantasies’. Rape, sex with stranger, exhibition, humiliation…. It is important to realize it is just a fantasy, in most cases they know the reality would not be that enjoyable and leave it at that.&quot;

top 10 female sexual fantasies of which particular demographic or demographics of women?  American?  Canadian?  British?  Western European?  That&#039;s believable.  

South Asian?  African?  Middle Eastern?  I doubt it.  

The problem with most &quot;studies&quot; like these is that they are done on North Americans, Brits and sometimes Australians and Western Europeans.  They are highly culturally dependent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Dominance, control and even BDSM fetish is deep in every woman. It is a taboo, because of not giving any funny ideas to rapists – guys who think women will love them, because they like it rough. Sadistic deviants rapists are another story – taboos like this are just an excuse at best.</p>
<p>Google ‘ top 10 female sexual fantasies’. Rape, sex with stranger, exhibition, humiliation…. It is important to realize it is just a fantasy, in most cases they know the reality would not be that enjoyable and leave it at that.&#8221;</p>
<p>top 10 female sexual fantasies of which particular demographic or demographics of women?  American?  Canadian?  British?  Western European?  That&#8217;s believable.  </p>
<p>South Asian?  African?  Middle Eastern?  I doubt it.  </p>
<p>The problem with most &#8220;studies&#8221; like these is that they are done on North Americans, Brits and sometimes Australians and Western Europeans.  They are highly culturally dependent.</p>
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		<title>By: YOHAMI</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 13:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Clarence</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 09:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, Rogue, you are wrong on both counts:

For one, there&#039;s a whole literature on male rape that shows it is much more prevalent than many people believe. Indeed, one of the reasons it is thought to be rare is that many criminal codes basically define it out of existence. See for instance the new FBI definition of rape which finally allows for the rape of a man IF he is forcibly penetrated - but does not count being FORCED to penetrate as rape. In short , if she puts a gun to your head and a device in your mouth or anus -rape. If she puts a gun to your head and says &quot;put it in or die&quot;, congratulations - you have NOT been raped. Now the FBI is categorizing things. This categorization leads to statistics and thus part of the disparity between the number of rapes male -vs-female is due to this sort of thing. Now some states do recognize forced envelopment as rape, but others do not do so. In many states, if you are not penetrated, you may be sexually assaulted, but you are not raped, even though rape is supposedly coerced sex.
British law is similar in that rape is defined by statute to be solely the act of penetration. 
As for incidence, studies are all over the place, with the places of greatest threat to men being prison and to women being the home or on a date. Stranger rape is considered rather rare for both sexes, though admittedly much less rare for women than for men. Men, however, are in much greater danger than women of repeated rape due to the relative proportion of men in prison vs women in prison.

Psychologically? I don&#039;t even know if that can be measured. I do know that male and female survivors of rape have various reactions with some of both sexes being severely traumatized and some of both sexes apparently able to shrug it off. So it is a bit silly of you to pretend that all rape survivors of whatever sex behave the same when any simple google search would show you that is not so.

Anyway, I hope this clears away a few of your misconceptions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Rogue, you are wrong on both counts:</p>
<p>For one, there&#8217;s a whole literature on male rape that shows it is much more prevalent than many people believe. Indeed, one of the reasons it is thought to be rare is that many criminal codes basically define it out of existence. See for instance the new FBI definition of rape which finally allows for the rape of a man IF he is forcibly penetrated &#8211; but does not count being FORCED to penetrate as rape. In short , if she puts a gun to your head and a device in your mouth or anus -rape. If she puts a gun to your head and says &#8220;put it in or die&#8221;, congratulations &#8211; you have NOT been raped. Now the FBI is categorizing things. This categorization leads to statistics and thus part of the disparity between the number of rapes male -vs-female is due to this sort of thing. Now some states do recognize forced envelopment as rape, but others do not do so. In many states, if you are not penetrated, you may be sexually assaulted, but you are not raped, even though rape is supposedly coerced sex.<br />
British law is similar in that rape is defined by statute to be solely the act of penetration.<br />
As for incidence, studies are all over the place, with the places of greatest threat to men being prison and to women being the home or on a date. Stranger rape is considered rather rare for both sexes, though admittedly much less rare for women than for men. Men, however, are in much greater danger than women of repeated rape due to the relative proportion of men in prison vs women in prison.</p>
<p>Psychologically? I don&#8217;t even know if that can be measured. I do know that male and female survivors of rape have various reactions with some of both sexes being severely traumatized and some of both sexes apparently able to shrug it off. So it is a bit silly of you to pretend that all rape survivors of whatever sex behave the same when any simple google search would show you that is not so.</p>
<p>Anyway, I hope this clears away a few of your misconceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Rogue</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 21:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I may be wrong here as I don&#039;t have numbers, but women raping men is a much rare event. I&#039;d wager it&#039;s at least a couple of orders of magnitude lower then men raping women. 

Second, rape has long term psychological effects on a woman. Socially and biologically it&#039;s a very harmful event, with consequences varying from unwanted pregnancy to ruining her marrigeability. For men it&#039;s akin to plain sexual abuse. Harmful, but without the same long term effects.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I may be wrong here as I don&#8217;t have numbers, but women raping men is a much rare event. I&#8217;d wager it&#8217;s at least a couple of orders of magnitude lower then men raping women. </p>
<p>Second, rape has long term psychological effects on a woman. Socially and biologically it&#8217;s a very harmful event, with consequences varying from unwanted pregnancy to ruining her marrigeability. For men it&#8217;s akin to plain sexual abuse. Harmful, but without the same long term effects.</p>
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		<title>By: Clarence</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clarence]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 20:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;No potential for rape&quot;?
Oh, Do explain, Rogue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No potential for rape&#8221;?<br />
Oh, Do explain, Rogue.</p>
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		<title>By: Rogue</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rogue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2012 15:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few more ideas on possible evolutionary explanation of the phenomenon:

- Potential damage. A man abusing a women may turn into seriously hurting her, or possibly rape. Both are obviously BAD things. If a man is abused by a (single) woman the damage is mostly psychological, and there is no potential for rape. Much less reason to intervene.

- Incentives. A man will definitely feel motivated to help a woman. This could give him a shot at her and/or make him look like a dependable protector in front of the other women around. A woman will protect another woman out of simple empathy. It&#039;s too easy to imagine how it would be in her place. 
  When a man is abused I can&#039;t see any strategic advantage to helping him. Like Rollo said in the end of the article, he&#039;s most likely &quot;low quality&quot;, and there&#039;s little benefits in helping him, or even associating with him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few more ideas on possible evolutionary explanation of the phenomenon:</p>
<p>&#8211; Potential damage. A man abusing a women may turn into seriously hurting her, or possibly rape. Both are obviously BAD things. If a man is abused by a (single) woman the damage is mostly psychological, and there is no potential for rape. Much less reason to intervene.</p>
<p>&#8211; Incentives. A man will definitely feel motivated to help a woman. This could give him a shot at her and/or make him look like a dependable protector in front of the other women around. A woman will protect another woman out of simple empathy. It&#8217;s too easy to imagine how it would be in her place.<br />
  When a man is abused I can&#8217;t see any strategic advantage to helping him. Like Rollo said in the end of the article, he&#8217;s most likely &#8220;low quality&#8221;, and there&#8217;s little benefits in helping him, or even associating with him.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://therationalmale.com/2012/02/29/what-lies-beneath/comment-page-1/#comment-3456</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 23:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[eroding your life away...little by little.

too funny]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eroding your life away&#8230;little by little.</p>
<p>too funny</p>
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