I used to believe that was a rationalisation too, until I heard my mother say something almost identical.

Also – its an interesting way that is currently a popular subject to see how they’ll react to Alpha men.

You say you believe that “Alpha” traits can be objectively defined, though it can be contextual.

You’ve also said that the Quality Woman is a myth – based on female game and male self-delusion. (Not your exact words but I think that sums it up.)

Heartiste said to a commenter yesterday, “Sexual double standards are a fact of life. get used to it, because they aren’t going anywhere.” That was in response to someone calling him a hypocrite for asking Western women to be more selective and less promiscuous.

On SS and elsewhere men are (rightly) advised to “qualify” the women they spend time with, short or long term.

I don’t disagree with any of these things, but….

It seems that while the Alpha are flesh and blood and walk among us, the Quality Woman is a mythical creature at best, or a femcentric lie at worst, according to PUA conventional wisdom.

If the sexual Double Standard is to have any meaning, and if men are to qualify woman, how can the “Quality Woman” be just a myth? If it’s just a hypergamous chess move by females, then what does that make men embracing Alpha traits?

Maybe one is more easily demonstrable than the other. I remember the late Jophil saying something like, “if you listen, your woman will eventually communicate to you her sexual values and history” even if it’s not overtly communicated. Certainly some good female qualities (besides attractiveness, the most obvious) are also universal and objective.

But maybe I’m wrong.

Thanks – Sam Spade

Chris Brown, Alpha or Sigma? Does it even matter? Alpha is as Alpha does.

Gotta keep from breaking the illusion of being able to see the whole thing clearly after all.