Comments on: The Mature Man

By: Kristen

Kristen — Wed, 10 Dec 2014 03:54:47 +0000

God love you guys. I would like to apologize on behalf of all women who treated you so poorly that you felt your best option was rational male. I promise we are not all that bad. And for the most part women love and appreciate men.

FA.

By: The Red Baron

The Red Baron — Fri, 31 Oct 2014 22:53:24 +0000

I know my post will be misunderstood but i will try anyway given english is not my first language and people who disagree here are hamstered away by older (in some cases former) sexually frustrated/burnt men who use the manosphere as an alibi to satisfy their own male sexual imperative:

I am a huge fan of rollo especially for his morally neutral analysis -but I disagree with other commenters and only partially agree with rollo’s post. (Basically 100% agree on the part about hypocritical cougars who chased older men in their own young prime unsuccessfully and are now bitching about it).

If you older guys really wish to help these young millenial men instead of primarily selling books (rollo being the one and only exception to this) and hamstering away / looking for validation of your sexual imperative – just stop dating their women. Honestly, the manosphere could disappear tomorrow and it won’t be as damaging to them on a pragmatic dating level than to compete with men who aspire to be one half of the ‘Sugar daddy-daughter’ couples.

I couldn’t give a toss about these old hags but younger men suffer more from the above phenomenon than cougars even from an amoral pragmatic perspective (setting aside destructive nature of the monkey-sex mating ritual and unhealthy competition to achieve this amongst their brothers).

Again, my point has nothing to do with fem-centrism as i am not even absolving young women who actively pursue older guys and the degree to which their innocence is raped by such men is exaggerated by the left-wing critics of this sugar daddy phenomenon.

Basically if one generation of men makes this ‘sacrifice’ – the SMP will readjust and even betas like engineers, mathematicians programmers will have at least a cat in a hell’s chance of getting laid more often and fulfill their potential – these are men who dont fit the tall-lean-slightly muscular physical genetic template of women so can’t use Game as successfully as the top 20% of men)

My background:
I am part of this physical top 20% of men, a millionaire as well. Rollo helped me reaffirm my own unintentional ‘mgtow’ lifestyle – i do date but on my terms, i won’t even label myself a mgtow…this used to be called being a ‘Man’ instead of the men who follow the pussy beggar lifestyle advocated by roosh/heartiste etc and who can’t temper his sexual urges. Overt seduction was always a woman’s job not a man’s.

(To clarify, most of the current crop of mgtows are men who got burnt like mark minter or virgins/incels who lack social skills – very few mgtows are like Barbarossa and me who can get laid but see the game for what it is during their sexual prime itself and refuse to play it. Remember guys, feminism is a Trojan horse of marxism, Game and Hypergamy combined will hasten the decline of western civilisation and destroy traditional capitalism which was part of the Soviet/KGB ‘Long term plan’ although this is happening organically instead of the Red Scare still being alive.)

I am mid 30s, work on Wall St. Each of my older friends who married these young women (including quality church girls) got replaced by their younger models when these women reached their mid 30s and divorced their now 50-something husbands even those who were physically active/natural alpha’s/rich etc. Their ex-wives my age are even pursuing me now – they have turned into vapid whores deep down and weren’t shielded from the toxic culture despite these men’s and their families’ best efforts.

I am not questioning rollo’s sincerity but you need to hear my perspective on people who followed above model and even married these younger women who were not all bimbos when young..the same might lie in your future

I work 80-90 hours a week, so i really wont have time to respond to this. Just felt to get this off my chest. I tried to stay as objective as possible .. while i don’t deny that these young women aren’t physically hot but being a so called ‘mgtow/mghow’ hopefully prevented a bias in my analysis as I don’t actively game women younger than me. But i foresee commenters here making personal attacks based on my personal observation (watched this ‘post 30s sugar-daddy got cuckolded hypergamy’ in every anglosphere country i worked in), you will make new mistakes using this strategy in ltrs, marriages and even while spinning plates. Remember it is easier for women to have sex and trade up than it is even for most PUAs/Red Pillers in their 20s/30s – it might get better for men but even at their lowest post wall women do get hit on by really good looking men their age. Also i am not seeking marriage or any silly blue-pill fantasies, just want younger smarter men to fulfill their potential and get their fair due of women as long as they follow rules of civilisation both for moral and pragmatic reasons.

Tschüß!

PS: Non Anglosphere women in their 30s despite their ‘baggage’ do have intellectually stimulating personalities – them being hollow is mainly a US/British phenomenon but i still think they are cunts not so much as American/younger women though..basically AWALT, only difference is in degree of magnitude.

By: DirkDangler

DirkDangler — Thu, 28 Aug 2014 12:55:44 +0000

Another thing:
A younger woman will very likely look up to an older guy who has his shit together.
An older woman would very likely try to tear an older guy down, regardless of the fact that he has his shit together. In fact, if she can tear him down, out of jealousy, then he becomes less attractive to other women; women who would then have a hard time recognizing the fact that he has his shit together, because he will no longer be exuding that fact if he is being subtly undermined by an experienced, worthless, conniving bitch. As a group, they will try to convince older guys that the right thing for them to do is go out with the used up worn out old hoes, like themselves. All other, better alternatives are dismissed, ridiculed or characterized as psychological pathology. Young women in their mid-twenties are now a days being characterized as “children”… In other words, mature men are to look for women who are outside of their prime years and who are more likely to be looking for a stable relationship, rather than for sexual adventure and experimentation. Let me tell you something. I went to a BMW franchise. I looked at every car on their lot, comparing the exteriors and the interiors of every vehicle they had. Afterwards, a conniving worthless son of a bitch who had just pulled up in the company’s beater car began to try to sell me on the vehicle’s value; no need to worry about the scratches, they’d come out. No need to worry about how dirty the vehicle was, they’d clean it up and detail it for me. And best of all, they all drove the vehicle. Yeah, they all beat the shit out of that vehicle because they probably resented their pay, or they had a spat with management, their girlfriend, or someone or other. The guy was trying to sell me the worst thing on their lot. And he wasn’t even a salesman. I thought he was nuts. And everyone within earshot who could see what he was doing were getting clenched jaws and felt their hands tightening to fist. Well, people who suggest to older males that they should attach themselves to beat up models with high mileage and ever escalating maintenance challenges are up to the same transparent trick. Some old hoe even had the audacity to send a younger woman over to me in order to get ahold of my phone number. Once the younger woman had my number, the old drunkard came out of the shadows and asked the attractive woman if she had gotten my number for her. WTF?! I guess she didn’t feel totally ashamed by what she had done, given the idea that I’d be feeling stiffed and let down by the sham. I guess she supposed that would put us on an equal footing. Do you see what I mean? Why would any guy in his right mind want to deal with the warped and twisted mind games that older women like to engage in if he is fortunate enough not to be married to an older woman to begin with? If a guy has avoided older women all of his life, then why on God’s green earth would he decide to become involved with them, simply because he has gotten older? It boils down to this: Older women will try to convince you that if you have an advantage, such as money, experience, whatever, and you use it to your advantage, then you are taking advantage. And that comes with moral reprobation. Now, common sense will tell you that if you have an advantage, and you do not use it to your advantage, then you are disadvantaging yourself in a highly competitive world. Older women want to manipulate you, so that you seek their approval, and you do that the instant you seek to avoid their disapproval. If you follow their lead, the pain does not end, but rather it has begun. I prefer sleek cars, slim and attractive women…

By: DirkDangler

DirkDangler — Thu, 28 Aug 2014 12:14:06 +0000

As women age, they [cough] become protective of younger women, you know, those vulnerable [cough] children, the ones that are out partying their firm asses off, while drinking, drugging, engaging in sexual experimentation, and all of that which comes with the process of maturing. Older women believe that older guys should stick with older women. But here is the rub, when girls and boys are younger, they are both told that girls mature faster than boys. That girls are ahead of their male peers in terms of maturity. What they really mean is that girls hit puberty sooner, they take notice of their male peers before their male peers are attracted to them, and so the girls take interest in older boys. That is what is meant by the term “maturity”. So, while their peers are walking to school, if not taking a bus, their female cohorts are looking for guys who drive cars, even before their male peers have acquired a driver’s license. And these girls don’t develop a sixth sense or some sort of supernatural intuition regarding men. THEY SIMPLY GAIN EXPERIENCE OVER TIME. It may seem like a sixth sense to men, because the overwhelming majority of men lack the kind of experience with women that women have gained on men. Females are noticing, evaluating, judging and comparing males before males have taken the slightest notice or interest in them. Women are not naïve and they are not stupid. They know, when they see a cruise ship leave harbor, or a jet flying overhead, that a team of men assembled it. Can you even conceive of a team of women building a massive cruise ship? But those are the kinds of activities men engage in. And women are aware of it, painfully so. Resentfully so. And so they keep an eye on men. A woman who couldn’t drive a single rivet will imagine that she reigns over every man who built the ship if she has a single warm cabin to sleep in. Women have become that deluded. They once realized that they were guests in what was essentially a man’s world. Now they imagine that they are running the world, when they are simply being tooled by feminists who are running their mouths. Look at it this way, we have reached a day and age in which gay men imagine they can be a woman’s best friend and lesbians imagine that they can be a woman’s best lover; and both of them are acting, with the aid of feminists, towards cock blocking straight men.

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By: backbreaker

backbreaker — Thu, 30 Jan 2014 21:22:33 +0000

What gets me is that the vast majority of 35 year old men, would have jumped at the opportunity to date the 35 year old women 10 years earlier, and these same women that shame men, wanted nothing to do with the man then.

I have a very simple solution to women who complain about men dating younger women; stop rejecting men in their 20’s for not having the “TOTAL PACKAGE”, grow with your man, build a life together (novel concept) and you won’t have to worry about it.

About a month ago I looked at a girl I dated 11 years ago’s twitter account for shits and giggles and she dumped me for a dude that was in his late 20’s (She was 18). Now at 29, she’s making tweets about why all the good men lie to her. Bitch please lol.